On August 06 2008 04:59 zgl wrote: Poor FBH Truly a misunderstood artist.
If he didn't want it to happen he could've gged after his nat got destroyed for the 12321th time. Much already had a Tribunal and FBH had 4 factories on fire and nothing else.
TheTyranid, WCG Korea happened 2 months ago? I think you fails.
I mistook it for the pylon heart game, sorry. Edited the above post. Still I don't think a thread is necessary. Much has been playing poorly lately. Why would you make an appreciation thread for a player who doesn't deserve appreciation?
On August 06 2008 05:07 TheTyranid wrote: Appreciation for what? Being 1-7 in his last 8 games? For beating a poor TvP FBH and having rabid FBH haters spray everywhere?
There have already been countless discussions on Much/FBH?Savior This thread is undeserved, and pointless.
On August 06 2008 05:07 TheTyranid wrote: Appreciation for what? Being 1-7 in his last 8 games? For beating a poor TvP FBH and having rabid FBH haters spray everywhere?
There have already been countless discussions on Much/FBH?Savior This thread is undeserved, and pointless.
Hes 1-8 because he went against Jaedong and best, who gave him six losses. He made it to the quater finals and semi finals of two starleagues, and met the best zvp and pvp player we have right now, and he went down. Hes a god damn strong player regardless of recent results.
On August 06 2008 05:07 TheTyranid wrote: Appreciation for what? Being 1-7 in his last 8 games? For beating a poor TvP FBH and having rabid FBH haters spray everywhere?
There have already been countless discussions on Much/FBH?Savior This thread is undeserved, and pointless.
Hes 1-8 because he went against Jaedong and best, who gave him six losses. He made it to the quater finals and semi finals of two starleagues, and met the best zvp and pvp player we have right now, and he went down. Hes a god damn strong player regardless of recent results.
A player needs to do something outstanding to deserve an appreciation thread. When there was na appreciation thread for Hwasin, it was deserved because of his siccess in WCG before which he has been relatively underrated. This is just another CJ fanboy/FBH hater thread.
On August 06 2008 05:07 TheTyranid wrote: Appreciation for what? Being 1-7 in his last 8 games? For beating a poor TvP FBH and having rabid FBH haters spray everywhere?
There have already been countless discussions on Much/FBH?Savior This thread is undeserved, and pointless.
Hes 1-8 because he went against Jaedong and best, who gave him six losses. He made it to the quater finals and semi finals of two starleagues, and met the best zvp and pvp player we have right now, and he went down. Hes a god damn strong player regardless of recent results.
On August 06 2008 05:07 TheTyranid wrote: Appreciation for what? Being 1-7 in his last 8 games? For beating a poor TvP FBH and having rabid FBH haters spray everywhere?
There have already been countless discussions on Much/FBH?Savior This thread is undeserved, and pointless.
Hes 1-8 because he went against Jaedong and best, who gave him six losses. He made it to the quater finals and semi finals of two starleagues, and met the best zvp and pvp player we have right now, and he went down. Hes a god damn strong player regardless of recent results.
On August 06 2008 05:52 raga4ka wrote: I think Much's PvT is the best after JangBI 's of course other tosses are a close 3th (Yup Best , Kal , Stork , Bisu and even BackHo sucks ) !
God much is so boring I can't even watch the games he loses horribly. My least favorite progamer. I hate that FBH loses to him cause of his crappy tvp (srsly practice or something), because unlike Much he actually has personality and flair, both in the game and out of it.
I am pretty confident that much will never win anything. There are soooo many more interesting tosses too so its not like hes the only one doing anything.
fbh is probably my favorite players but seriously, he needs to practice his tvp. which is sad since he is so good in tvz and tvt he would be an amazing player in individual leagues if his tvp wasnt so terrible.
On August 06 2008 08:36 RivetHead wrote: God much is so boring I can't even watch the games he loses horribly. My least favorite progamer. I hate that FBH loses to him cause of his crappy tvp (srsly practice or something), because unlike Much he actually has personality and flair, both in the game and out of it.
I am pretty confident that much will never win anything. There are soooo many more interesting tosses too so its not like hes the only one doing anything.
What's with all the Much hate? It's not like hes terrible, he's just inconsistant. And to people who are saying "much won't ever do anything" ... well he just finished in quater finals of OSL by beating mind and bisu... then losing to the best pvp in the world (best) then made it to the semis of MSL losing to a firey hot jaedong... he also won osc over Sea a while back... so he's accomplished a good bit compared to most progamers
Watch Much get his point across without nearly breaking a leg in the process. FBH isn't in the same league as Much, even though Much can be inconsistent.
Woulda preferred someone who can actually make it through through finals. Oh well, guess you need this more, eh Much? Woulda been a little more impressive if FBH haven't choked every time he met a protoss recently.
FBH is such a funny player, he's a second or perhaps even third tier progamer whose only accomplishment STILL is beating savior in Ro8 ages ago. He's a worse mumyung than mumyung ever was :p (Always getting into leagues beating out good players, never ever doing anything.) But desipite that _everyone_ thinks something about him. You really gotta respect his ability to make a name for himself in the progaming world without, you know, doing anything noteworthy as a gamer. But that is also why I love Much for these stunts, I just can't bring myself to like a player so in love with the idea of beeing a star while still sucking total ass. Few more of these schoolings and maybe, just maybe he will start to play bw for its own sake and not in some attempt to become famous.
LOL at all the FBH fanboys in this thread getting angry because their hero lost and accusing everyone else of being fanboys.
But really, I don't get it, FBH does mocking ceremonies to others and his fanboys go on about how cool he is but then someone does it to him and they get all pissy? Live by the sword and die by the sword.
You keep saying that Much won't go through to the finals? Well, he's got just as much chance as FBH had so that argument's meaningless.
Face it, your boy's TvP is pretty weak and Much is becoming his nemesis just as he is Savior's nemesis. It's called karma and its very nice to watch
I have no idea in game 1 how Much was able to completely shut down that initial push. Was it positioning? Bad timing for FBH? Not enough vultures? I just couldn't figure it out.
In anycase, Much is a hero for throwing a few scouts in the first game, but in the second game totally walking all over FBH and decided to use nearly a control group of scouts to support his final attack was absolutely amazing.
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Much
This thread is totally necessary.
(also, I am a FBH fan as well. It is possible to be fans of two rivals at the same time people!)
FBH should stick with what he's good at-Proleague. His team picks matchups for him that he is most likely to win and he seems to do well when his team is there to give him emotional support.
I'll keep telling you that Much's PvT is the best , Samsung and SKT tosses are a close second ... With JangBI actually has equal and better PvT sometimes . All other tosses are a close second ...
And Much's style in PvT is very entertaining not just his games vs FNOOBH ...
On August 09 2008 14:44 Goosey wrote: I have no idea in game 1 how Much was able to completely shut down that initial push. Was it positioning? Bad timing for FBH? Not enough vultures? I just couldn't figure it out.
In anycase, Much is a hero for throwing a few scouts in the first game, but in the second game totally walking all over FBH and decided to use nearly a control group of scouts to support his final attack was absolutely amazing.
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 Much
This thread is totally necessary.
(also, I am a FBH fan as well. It is possible to be fans of two rivals at the same time people!)
First, Much did much damage to FBH's eco.
Second, his mines barely did anything; the zealots charged above the mines then surrounded the tanks.
Third, FBH had around 2 vults being meat shields. The tanks died in around 3 seconds and it was pretty much over then.
On topic:
Much is just modest, did you hear him talk with commentators? Unlike FBH or I think Stork (can't think of another example) Much, along with JangBi I must add, doesn't trashtalk. He just avenged for savior, because savior requested.
For the second game, as somebody else said, Much went scouts because FBH won't go out. That's FBH's fault, not Much's.
I loved Much long before all the FBH drama. Actually I liked his style since the first game I saw of him, jumping over rax/depot blocking with a simple gate/core/robo 1 shuttle stuffed with zealots build. It was nothing astonishing, but it was clean, smart and effective.
Someone said Much style is boring. Actually, he has one of the most entertaining to watch PvT's. And his 1/7 record, well, he lost two series, one to a still awesome JD and to an unstoppable BeSt, so whatever. No big deal.
On August 11 2008 07:51 RamenStyle wrote: Someone said Much style is boring. Actually, he has one of the most entertaining to watch PvT's.
I hadn't actually watched many of much's games until recently, so I can't speak to whatever his style used to be, but after watching the three games he has played so far in the OSL Ro16, I have boarded the Much train. Most entertaining to watch, period. (obviously based on a small sample, but still, three in a row)
On August 06 2008 22:10 KlaCkoN wrote: FBH is such a funny player, he's a second or perhaps even third tier progamer whose only accomplishment STILL is beating savior in Ro8 ages ago. He's a worse mumyung than mumyung ever was :p (Always getting into leagues beating out good players, never ever doing anything.) But desipite that _everyone_ thinks something about him. You really gotta respect his ability to make a name for himself in the progaming world without, you know, doing anything noteworthy as a gamer. But that is also why I love Much for these stunts, I just can't bring myself to like a player so in love with the idea of beeing a star while still sucking total ass. Few more of these schoolings and maybe, just maybe he will start to play bw for its own sake and not in some attempt to become famous.
On August 06 2008 05:07 TheTyranid wrote: Appreciation for what? Being 1-7 in his last 8 games? For beating a poor TvP FBH and having rabid FBH haters spray everywhere?
There have already been countless discussions on Much/FBH?Savior This thread is undeserved, and pointless.
Hes 1-8 because he went against Jaedong and best, who gave him six losses. He made it to the quater finals and semi finals of two starleagues, and met the best zvp and pvp player we have right now, and he went down. Hes a god damn strong player regardless of recent results.
A player needs to do something outstanding to deserve an appreciation thread. When there was na appreciation thread for Hwasin, it was deserved because of his siccess in WCG before which he has been relatively underrated. This is just another CJ fanboy/FBH hater thread.
Come on, whatever you think of FBH/Savior/Much, this game was hilarious! It was very entertaining to watch and I'm glad this thread pointed it out to me.
Much's play vs Flash in WCG Korea on Andromeda was phenomenal! That game where he was sitting around at like 8k minerals, screwed around with recalls, then just decided to stop screwing around and steamrolled the hell out of mr Fish.
Yes, yes, granted, I am an incorrigible Flash-hater, but I have to say I love Much's PvT, it's absolute art to watch the way he engages a terran setup. His PvP is really random, can be solid, can also be rather "mmbleh". I used to think his PvZ was really solid, then he screwed around for a bit, but the last display of power vs July looked pretty good.
Grandpa Toss is a big favourite of mine. I was actually pretty sad when he was knocked out by BeSt in the last OSL (their game on Hwarangdo was fucking beautiful) - despite my SKT T1 love and general love of Do Jae Wook.
First much game i ever watched... Much vs oov on shin peaks. jesus christ. perfect game. proxy 1 gate zealot harrass into goon harrass, proxy robo for godly reaver harrass, with zealot bombing getting 5-6 scv kills from tank splash. pure beauty. gave me like 20 boners.
Much does seem to be strategically oriented lately.
There's that maelstrom game vs jaedong, the 1base carrier vs bisu, and now he took out July with a cannon rush. Only worked once in 3 games, but still gotta give him credit.
As a 24-year old SC player, I salute Much and his dedication and ability to the game. Thanks for showing everyone that skill does not dramatically diminish with age.