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Sweden33719 Posts
4. Jaedong went (I only counted once, and there were a lot of games. I may be off by one or two) 81-41 in 2008. Most valuable Zerg? You bet. You know you can set a timeframe for the games in the TLPD right? IE Jan 01 2008 to Dec 31 2008, then you don't have to count
Excellent write-up, and I agree with most conclusions. Things like Savior going from a killing machine to a chump at ZvP, Stork going from a BARELY 50% PvZ to an at least decent level, really did help statistics.
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dragons hate hydralisk >.<
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On January 14 2009 02:13 Jaksiel wrote:Show nested quote +On January 14 2009 00:49 lgdDante wrote:On January 14 2009 00:14 Jaksiel wrote: Zero is frustratingly inconsistent, but I too have hope that he can put it together.
Live for the swarm! I think that every day there's more and more evidence that zero was just overachieving the first half of this round, rather than underachieving these last 3-4 weeks. Hence...inconsistent. I'm not really sure what you're arguing against. That's not being inconsistent, it's over achieving for a short period of time. Just because he is now playing more around his normal level doesn't make him inconsistent, just not as good as we all thought he was a few weeks ago.
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United States6978 Posts
get the fuck out to the guy who said zerg has a harder time coming back than terran and toss.
Toss and Zerg can harass BIG TIME, you also have great spellcasters that affect general areas. Only way for T to come back is to try to get someone to attack you or exp and hope they dont find it. If they just sit back and exp theres nothing you can do.
IMO zergs just need to abuse more, and macro harder ala the early savior days, especially vs mech. I dont get why mutas are made vs protoss either....seems like a huge waste when they FE. The zerg ends up being unable to harass and just gets run over by mass zeal anyway.
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On January 15 2009 23:14 Sadist wrote: get the fuck out to the guy who said zerg has a harder time coming back than terran and toss.
Toss and Zerg can harass BIG TIME, you also have great spellcasters that affect general areas. Only way for T to come back is to try to get someone to attack you or exp and hope they dont find it. If they just sit back and exp theres nothing you can do.
IMO zergs just need to abuse more, and macro harder ala the early savior days, especially vs mech. I dont get why mutas are made vs protoss either....seems like a huge waste when they FE. The zerg ends up being unable to harass and just gets run over by mass zeal anyway.
lol
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On January 15 2009 23:14 Sadist wrote: get the fuck out to the guy who said zerg has a harder time coming back than terran and toss.
Toss and Zerg can harass BIG TIME, you also have great spellcasters that affect general areas. Only way for T to come back is to try to get someone to attack you or exp and hope they dont find it. If they just sit back and exp theres nothing you can do.
IMO zergs just need to abuse more, and macro harder ala the early savior days, especially vs mech. I dont get why mutas are made vs protoss either....seems like a huge waste when they FE. The zerg ends up being unable to harass and just gets run over by mass zeal anyway.
You get the fuck out. Watch some games. Terrans can bunker rush and fail, sunken break and fail, lose two dropships and fail and still comeback and win comfortably. In ZvT zerg is far more heavily punished by mistakes. If you can't see that then you're either blind or irretrievably terran-biased.
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Toss and Zerg can harass BIG TIME, you also have great spellcasters that affect general areas. Only way for T to come back is to try to get someone to attack you or exp and hope they dont find it. If they just sit back and exp theres nothing you can do.
rofl..
Ever heard of: M&M drops or Vulture harass?
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On January 15 2009 23:14 Sadist wrote: get the fuck out to the guy who said zerg has a harder time coming back than terran and toss.
Toss and Zerg can harass BIG TIME, you also have great spellcasters that affect general areas. Only way for T to come back is to try to get someone to attack you or exp and hope they dont find it. If they just sit back and exp theres nothing you can do.
IMO zergs just need to abuse more, and macro harder ala the early savior days, especially vs mech. I dont get why mutas are made vs protoss either....seems like a huge waste when they FE. The zerg ends up being unable to harass and just gets run over by mass zeal anyway.
wtf
great write up!
the Swarm will definitely own 2009 with EffOrt (and ok.. Savior) leading the way ^^
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It seems that there will be plenty of zergs in the Ro16 for both the MSL and the OSL. The maps have changed to favor zerg, especially Tears of the Moon which prevents the FE build. A certain zerg-killing master is no longer around.
The swarm should be fine this time around. Hopefully we'll actually get to see some TvZs and PvZs this time around in the starleagues.
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United States6978 Posts
On January 16 2009 00:46 Velr wrote:Show nested quote +Toss and Zerg can harass BIG TIME, you also have great spellcasters that affect general areas. Only way for T to come back is to try to get someone to attack you or exp and hope they dont find it. If they just sit back and exp theres nothing you can do. rofl.. Ever heard of: M&M drops or Vulture harass?
ever heard of muta and goon + cannon?
its very difficult to harass as terran, and if they set up a defense you really cant do shit, whereas reaver or muta can almost ALWAYS pick shit off.
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On January 16 2009 01:37 Sadist wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2009 00:46 Velr wrote:Toss and Zerg can harass BIG TIME, you also have great spellcasters that affect general areas. Only way for T to come back is to try to get someone to attack you or exp and hope they dont find it. If they just sit back and exp theres nothing you can do. rofl.. Ever heard of: M&M drops or Vulture harass? ever heard of muta and goon + cannon? its very difficult to harass as terran, and if they set up a defense you really cant do shit, whereas reaver or muta can almost ALWAYS pick shit off. Troll, The topic wasn't even complaining, unlike you.
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ehhh he's probably better than all of you combined
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you people are just bandwagon flamers
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Russian Federation4333 Posts
This thread needs a bump.
Considering the events in the starleagues and WL, I think it's safe to say that our state is very fucking good.
+ Show Spoiler [ racewar spoiler] +owned that too. Bisu vs Savior
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Bisu does not suck, lol.
People are so ridiculous sometimes.
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