 Waxangel United States. August 12 2009 10:36. Posts 23378 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
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http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=98301&db=issue
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=98384&db=issue
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=98332&db=issue
On August 11th, Kespa held an information session regarding the new "Free Agent" policy. Here are some translated points from e-sports journalists. Most of it's boring, except the repayment clause.
The purpose of the FA policy: To allow pro-teams to employ players for a contracted period of time, and then guarantee the player's right to sign with other teams after the contract has expired.
Qualifying as a free agent
Players must have been active for the following number of years AFTER June 27th, 2006
Progamers registered before June 27th, 2006: Three years.
Progamers on non-corporate teams: Four years.
Progamers on corporate teams: Five years.
Players must have played a minimum amount of games.
Appeared in over 25% regular season pro-league games (excluding playoffs). Appearing in a team's lineup counts as an appearance, even if the player did not actually play a game.
Pro-league games since 2005 are relevant.
The Process.
Negotiations with present team: August 12th ~ 20th.
Uncontracted players announced: August 21st.
Bidding/Offers period: August 21st ~ 25th.
Players informed of bidding teams: August 26th.
Player selection between bidding teams: August 26th ~ 27th.
*REPAYMENT RULES*
Teams that wish to acquire free agents must A) Repay 200% of the progamer's annual salary to their original team, or B) Repay 100% of the progamer's annual salary to the original team, and give one player to the original team (excluding six players on their protected players list). Progamers who earn less than 50,000,000 Won a year are excluded from the repayment rule.
KESPA ADDENDUM: August 14th
Amongst the bidding teams, the player is UNABLE to select their team of choice, and MUST negotiate a contract with the team that bids the highest amount.
You must be fucking kidding
Uncontracted players announced: August 28th.
Final round of negotiations with original team for uncontracted players: August 28th ~ 31st.
Players who are still uncontracted after August 31st will have Semi-pro status until the next Free Agent period.
Final announcements from the FA period: September 3rd.
Players are forbidden from employing agents
Here's a list of Free Agents by Cadical
On August 10 2009 12:18 Cadical wrote:FA Eligibility List is Out KT Fingerboom -  fOrGG, Shine,  Luxury, 815, FireFist,  Nal_rASKTelecom - Bisu, Midas, iloveoov, CanataHwaseung - Jaedong, HiyASamsung - Stork, JangBi, TT, firebathero, oDinMBCGame - Sea, Light, Saint, HyuN, PusanCJ - sAviOr, Iris, MuchHite - go.go, YellOw[ArnC] Estro - UpMaGiC, SangHo, TesterSTX소울 - Hwasin, Calm, July, Kal, SoOWeMade - NaDa, Mind Woongjin - free, GGPlayNegotiation with current team will take place on August 12th through 20th. Other teams excluding current team will place bids between August 21st through 25th. Re-negotiation with current team will be from August 28th through 31st. source1source2
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| Waxangel United States. August 12 2009 10:37. Posts 23378 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| I don't know why they bother calling it a "free" agent policy. Looks goddamn terrible. |
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 GTR August 12 2009 10:40. Posts 41670 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
What defines a corporate and non-corporate team?
I assume those that are big chaebols like SKT, KT are Corporate, while the little teams like eSTRO, Woongjin are non-corporate. |
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| Waxangel United States. August 12 2009 10:41. Posts 23378 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
On August 12 2009 10:40 GTR wrote:
What defines a corporate and non-corporate team?
I assume those that are big chaebols like SKT, KT are Corporate, while the little teams like eSTRO, Woongjin are non-corporate.
I have nothing to go by except the terrible synopsis skills of e-sports journalists. |
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| cyberspace Canada. August 12 2009 10:43. Posts 771 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| Wait..so if a team wants a player they have to pay the other team DOUBLE what they were paying said player, on top of his new salary? Seems kinda odd... |
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| Origami United States. August 12 2009 10:43. Posts 266 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
I'm not sure I'm understanding the repayment rules right. If a team buys up an expensive player, they have to pay even more money to the player's old team?
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| GTR August 12 2009 10:43. Posts 41670 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
On August 12 2009 10:43 Cyberspace1 wrote:
Wait..so if a team wants a player they have to pay the other team DOUBLE what they were paying said player, on top of his new salary? Seems kinda odd...
It's to encourage poorer teams into keeping their players.
It's basically a rigged Free Agent system designed to favor the teams that have money.
Also Protected Players = Players who cannot be sold? Or what?
Man, Korean e-Sports journalists suck.Last edit: 2009-08-12 10:45:20 |
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| udgnim United States. August 12 2009 10:50. Posts 7172 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
On August 12 2009 10:43 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 12 2009 10:43 Cyberspace1 wrote:
Wait..so if a team wants a player they have to pay the other team DOUBLE what they were paying said player, on top of his new salary? Seems kinda odd...
It's to encourage poorer teams into keeping their players. It's basically a rigged Free Agent system designed to favor the teams that have money. Also Protected Players = Players who cannot be sold? Or what? Man, Korean e-Sports journalists suck.
I'm guessing if Team A acquired a player from Team B and went the 100% repay + 1 player that Team B chooses option, Team A would have a 6 player protected list that Team B would not be able to choose from.Last edit: 2009-08-12 10:50:51 |
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| jonnyp United States. August 12 2009 10:52. Posts 415 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
I assume Ace can't obtain free agents 
it might also encourage poorer teams to "sell" their expensive players for cash :/ (like some of the poorer baseball teams) |
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| Waxangel United States. August 12 2009 10:53. Posts 23378 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
On August 12 2009 10:43 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +On August 12 2009 10:43 Cyberspace1 wrote:
Wait..so if a team wants a player they have to pay the other team DOUBLE what they were paying said player, on top of his new salary? Seems kinda odd...
It's to encourage poorer teams into keeping their players. It's basically a rigged Free Agent system designed to favor the teams that have money. Also Protected Players = Players who cannot be sold? Or what? Man, Korean e-Sports journalists suck.
it could just be that the powerpoint at the kespa presentation was shit in the first place, I dunno.
Protected players are just guys you can't name as part of a repayment package from what I can tell. I think the 200% thing is there to try and prevent the rich teams from just FA raiding everyone. You could assemble a ridiculous core of "good" level players who would work for less than $100,000 if you were SKT or KT in this Free agency period, if there wasn't a fee attached to it.
I think players are fucked in the final re-negotiation phase though, since they have to sign with their original team for whatever amount or they're just out of work  .
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| Waxangel United States. August 12 2009 10:54. Posts 23378 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
On August 12 2009 10:52 jonnyp wrote:I assume Ace can't obtain free agents it might also encourage poorer teams to "sell" their expensive players for cash :/ (like some of the poorer baseball teams)
I mean they can already do this.... I just assume that 2x salary is a cheaper price than you would typically have to pay as a transfer fee for a non FA. |
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 Manifesto7 Osaka. August 12 2009 10:57. Posts 25375 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| What this means is that if a player says no to his original team to test the FA waters, and then gets no/terrible offers from other teams, his original team can rape him in the final phase because the player has no choice but to sign. |
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 Heyoka Administrator August 12 2009 11:00. | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| This is really bizarre, so "free agency" will be open for a set period where people will have some kind of bidding war, and then the FA period closes and things go back to normal? Is speculation that they would just do this once a year after proleague or something? |
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| Weasel- Canada. August 12 2009 11:04. Posts 1012 | Gift TL+ Profile # |
| I never thought about this before reading this thread, but do progamers have agents that represent them in negotiations like regular sports agents? |
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| MuffinDude United States. August 12 2009 11:04. Posts 3837 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| It sounds rigged for the richer teams. Honestly, I don't like this idea, because my favorite players might move to teams that I don't really like. =( |
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| natturner August 12 2009 11:04. Posts 342 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| they're not free agents if one team has to pay the other team double for their player...that's just a trade, in a weird sense. |
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| Trezeguet United States. August 12 2009 11:07. Posts 2637 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| Hope that there are some big movers to shake up the teams since it seems like for the most part that there is a little stagnation especially at the bottom. I know Estro is tearing it up right now but if estro or mbc hero got a boost it could help turn their play around and make all the teams that much more competitive. (minus ACE, but who cares, they are everyone's lovable losers) |
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| Xiphos Canada. August 12 2009 11:09. Posts 6570 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| So the whole thing is about trading players but the other team have to pay twice as much to the original player's salary? Wow, I would rather keep my players this way and make them train harder than trade them and have to pay double. |
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Artosis  United States. August 12 2009 11:19. Posts 2104 | Gift TL+ Profile Blog # |
| originally jaedong was going to take advantage of FA, but now hwaseung has promised to make him the highest paid progamer ever, so it looks like Jaedong OZ will continue to win things on the back of 1 player ! |
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| hiro protagonist August 12 2009 11:30. Posts 1114 | Gift TL+ Profile # |
On August 12 2009 11:19 Artosis wrote:
originally jaedong was going to take advantage of FA, but now hwaseung has promised to make him the highest paid progamer ever, so it looks like Jaedong OZ will continue to win things on the back of 1 player !
damn, I was just thinking that Jaedong might have had enough of carrying Oz and would look to land with a better team. It might be in Jaedong's interest to keep his original pay and tell Oz to get another S-class player or else. ether way he needs to lightin up his work load. |
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