is the illusion of good macro. you may at some point start to think "im keeping my minerals low, therefore my macros now good enough for me to be focussing on strategies more" when in actual fact you are queuing units so if you've got 1k worth of units queued thats as bad as sitting on over 1k minerals so try not to queue units, if you're queueing it probably means you have to build more gateways/factories/hatcheries.
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ThePianoDentist
United Kingdom698 Posts
is the illusion of good macro. you may at some point start to think "im keeping my minerals low, therefore my macros now good enough for me to be focussing on strategies more" when in actual fact you are queuing units so if you've got 1k worth of units queued thats as bad as sitting on over 1k minerals so try not to queue units, if you're queueing it probably means you have to build more gateways/factories/hatcheries. | ||
ilion
United States65 Posts
I can never host and rarely join, plus I also get banned a lot. My ping is usually ~70 or so, not bad right? | ||
gvb
United States30 Posts
Start here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Port_Forwarding There's a lot of threads on port forwarding on TL, too: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=port forward You'll need the make and model of your router (i.e., not the modem--the issue is that the wireless or wired router between the modem and your computer slows down the relay and prevents you from hosting). Hopefully changing the settings on your router is as easy as plugging a wired connection in and adding the settings described in the link I gave you above. If not, msg me on skype (smackolicism) and I'll do my best to help you out. | ||
Achromic
773 Posts
Just don't be afraid of playing on ladder. Try and save all of your replays (don't make lame excuses like I wasn't trying or I lost because I just didn't do this) and review them and see where you went wrong. Write down or remember the mistake and perfect it in the next game. Learn build orders but don't take it to heart, always scout your opponent. And also, don't dedicate yourself to winning to make your account look glorious because this will actually slow your progress down. If you lose, don't rage and think of it as an opportunity to learn. And I see there are teachers in previous posts willing to offer you help. Take it and absorb as much as you can , training under someone is way better than trying to do it yourself. This is how I escaped from being a D to C-, which was probably consumed the most time in climbing the ranks. | ||
ilion
United States65 Posts
On July 29 2011 23:59 gvb wrote: Ilion, Start here: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Port_Forwarding There's a lot of threads on port forwarding on TL, too: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=port forward You'll need the make and model of your router (i.e., not the modem--the issue is that the wireless or wired router between the modem and your computer slows down the relay and prevents you from hosting). Hopefully changing the settings on your router is as easy as plugging a wired connection in and adding the settings described in the link I gave you above. If not, msg me on skype (smackolicism) and I'll do my best to help you out. Thanks for the advice, I will try this when I get home. | ||
pyrogenetix
United Arab Emirates5090 Posts
On July 29 2011 12:02 ninazerg wrote: Uh, that seems a little inaccurate. Computers do not play like humans at all, and the BroodWar AI is actually really bad. Playing 2, 3, 4 or however many computers will absolutely not prepare one for playing against people. The AI, however, can provide someone with a skeleton framework of how to play. For example, let's say you play against a Protoss AI. The AI will send out 10 Zealots at a set time (I don't remember the exact time anymore) and then expand. When I started playing BroodWar, this would always kill me. I would try all kinds of tricks to hold it off, like building 15 Photon Cannons to kill the Zealots. The problem with this is that I would be scared of the Zealots attacking right from the moment I started the game. I would be like "omg, zealots are coming, I need to defend myself" so I would build a Forge right away and start making Cannons right away. As I started to play more, I finally realized that the computer always attacks at the same time every game, so I realized I could make more Probes early on, and then could worry about defending the attack later. This type of realization is the result of pattern recognition, which is an important part of playing against human opponents. The problem is, when playing with an AI, the AI has maybe 1-2 strategies per race (unless you download some AIs or make your own) but human strategies, per race, can branch off into many different directions, so being able to recognize strategies, and execute your own, takes repetition, and repetition takes patience. So would I recommend playing against other people? Absolutely. There's a lot more to StarCraft than just macroing. I know where you're coming from but that's not my point at all. Of course your block the computer's first wave with something, then you need to get your macro up to scratch. No getting supply blocked, no stop in worker production, no stop in army production. That is what you should be training into muscle memory. Whether you later do a 1gate expo or 13nex isn't really important. Anyone can play early game. It's midgame where all you people start falling apart letting your money bank up into 1000 minerals then you post a replay here asking for help. Don't worry about builds, get your damn mechanics down. Then you should be flying into D+ C- easy. | ||
TheNessman
United States4158 Posts
But i've actually had decent luck playing on bnet west these last few days, played some one on ones vs people who were better than me, but not iccup good, so i feel it's a good midground above the AI. good luck man! | ||
wcr.4fun
Belgium686 Posts
I am new but I know the general concepts of micro and macro, I have an extensive history in warcraft 3. So I'm no noob. I'm just looking for players to practice with. It would be nice if people better than me (C players and anything above probably) would help me out to learn faster, but I'd love to play versus anyone just even to get some games going because broodwar is so much fun. I'm wcr.4fun on iccup. Add me as a friend and whisper me whenever you want! edit: I just noticed I have post this in the wrong thread. | ||
sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
On July 29 2011 18:13 ThePianoDentist wrote: also another thing that helped me get to my epic position of 25% w/l ratio...so yeah take any of my advice with a pinch of salt; is the illusion of good macro. you may at some point start to think "im keeping my minerals low, therefore my macros now good enough for me to be focussing on strategies more" when in actual fact you are queuing units so if you've got 1k worth of units queued thats as bad as sitting on over 1k minerals so try not to queue units, if you're queueing it probably means you have to build more gateways/factories/hatcheries. That and just plain not consistently build workers, so much easier to do in BW. "My macro was perfect never went above 500 minerals, why is his army twice the size of mine " | ||
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United States35 Posts
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United States102 Posts
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HNOblivion
Brazil37 Posts
On July 04 2011 01:40 FlaShFTW wrote: i agree with oxidized. practice a bit in single player, but obviously, the comp will probably just all out rush you first, screw your timings and then you'll be frustrated that you need to start over. but regardless, practice in single player. After you hit start button you can open the slot with the computer, so that you will play without any incovenience at all. | ||
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