Fastest economy builds(against AI)
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ExBoshy
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hellokitty[hk]
United States1309 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7290 Posts
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ExBoshy
118 Posts
On July 20 2014 05:21 hellokitty[hk] wrote: 12 hatch, 12 nex, 14 cc. Don't have to cut any workers. So I get 14 SCVs and then once I get 15'd I start building my other command center? Why terrans need 14 SCVs and not 12 like other races do? I usually was sitting on one base until I had like 30 workers and then started building my second command center and apparently it's not the best way of doing things. So let's say I'm zerg. 12 drones. 13'th is building hatchery and then next drone is building third base hatchery right away? Or I must saturate my second hatchery before building third? Since I'm playing against AI I don't think he will rush me that early so I plan to take as many expos as I can before building any units. Cutting workers means I waste minerals on units instead of workers? So I can build them constantly until I have as much as I need? How many workers total do I need? 50? 70? | ||
GeckoXp
Germany2013 Posts
On July 20 2014 13:38 fly747 wrote: So I get 14 SCVs and then once I get 15'd I start building my other command center? Why terrans need 14 SCVs and not 12 like other races do? I usually was sitting on one base until I had like 30 workers and then started building my second command center and apparently it's not the best way of doing things. So let's say I'm zerg. 12 drones. 13'th is building hatchery and then next drone is building third base hatchery right away? Or I must saturate my second hatchery before building third? Since I'm playing against AI I don't think he will rush me that early so I plan to take as many expos as I can before building any units. Cutting workers means I waste minerals on units instead of workers? So I can build them constantly until I have as much as I need? How many workers total do I need? 50? 70? Oh boy. Assuming this is not a troll, try these: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Portal:Beginners http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Help:Reading_Build_Orders http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/450579-other-basics | ||
ExBoshy
118 Posts
https://www.sendspace.com/file/pr74qf I was gonna go MASS carriers and corsairs but he killed me. Seems like economy management was not good either. I need some way to defend myself go superfast shuttle and get saturated bases on both hills asap. Any ideas? | ||
ExBoshy
118 Posts
So how do I build many bases and defend on this map? https://www.sendspace.com/file/c3og47 | ||
TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
On July 20 2014 13:34 ninazerg wrote: You can't just go "Hey guys, what's the best build in StarCraft?" and expect a decent answer because there are huge variances based on maps Proxy 2gate on every map seems like a logical answer in my mind... | ||
ExBoshy
118 Posts
Also I want to kill zerg with corsair, carrier army not with early rushes. So my goal is to defend myself on 1 base. Take over naturals as fast as I can. And tech up quickly. But I can't even defend myself from the first zerg attack. I need a good way to defend myself on 1 base and taking over 2 hills with naturals ASAP and superfast tech. It's better if you watch the rep. | ||
Piste
6135 Posts
btw, I didn't dl reps since my antivirus program didn't want me to, sorry. You shouldn't be just camping untill you get carriers to kill your opponents with. You wan't to at least harrass you AI opponents in the meantime. Since you need a shuttle to get your expand, you might as well go for high mobility combo: reaver+corsair. Remember to harrass with shuttle and reaver when you have enough to defend, and hunt overlods with your corsairs. If you see any spire/spire units then you need to escort your shuttle always with corsairs. when you have enough resources, add a fleet beacon and upgrade dweb. | ||
hellokitty[hk]
United States1309 Posts
Don't get 4 pooled 12 nex 16 nex forge+gateway+pylon sim city Spend all your money on cannons right before the attack Take 3 gasses and double cyber core, then build carriers See replay http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=55719 | ||
ninazerg
United States7290 Posts
On July 21 2014 07:42 GGzerG wrote: Proxy 2gate on every map seems like a logical answer in my mind... Nah, that build is trash. | ||
alullabyofpain
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ExBoshy
118 Posts
Alli I think you are confusing BW with SC2. | ||
kerpal
United Kingdom2695 Posts
On July 21 2014 16:26 fly747 wrote: 12 nexus? The map only has main and natural is on the hill which can only be accessed with shuttle LOL. Alli I think you are confusing BW with SC2. If this is the map you have decided to play on why are you even asking these questions? If you have to take an island to expo then you have to play tech focused rather than econ. Or you could play an actual brood war map rather than a nonsense blizzard map. | ||
nekotrap
130 Posts
Here's a rep on the map you're playing on: http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=55720 | ||
ninazerg
United States7290 Posts
On July 21 2014 16:26 fly747 wrote: 12 nexus? The map only has main and natural is on the hill which can only be accessed with shuttle LOL. Alli I think you are confusing BW with SC2. This thread is really, really dumb. | ||
GeckoXp
Germany2013 Posts
On July 21 2014 16:26 fly747 wrote: 12 nexus? The map only has main and natural is on the hill which can only be accessed with shuttle LOL. Alli I think you are confusing BW with SC2. He plays this: Boxed In Did you have a look at the links I pasted to you? Looking at the map and assuming you play non-scripted AIs, I guess there is no advice anyone can give to you, other than "use your keyboard". Any kind of Build Order can not help but fail, as the choke can not possibly be walled-in. Hence, even a fast tech build into a quick expansion wouldn't help. All you can do is go for forge first, add 2-5 cannons at the "choke", while going for a robotics straight away. Then take two of these island naturals, bunker some more and spam carriers. Way to go. I don't think that's any fun, you should play other maps, e.g. Lost Temple or Hunters, if you really don't want to search for more competitive maps. On these at least strategy is possible, on Blizzard maps it's not... | ||
ExBoshy
118 Posts
Btw I managed to win protoss against 3 zergs. I simply built a huge wall of cannons and then got shuttle and took over the islands. | ||
ketomai
United States2789 Posts
3 Zealot rushes is probably the best computer strategy. If you're zerg or terran it's pretty hard to defend it without blocking your choke with buildings. You have to have a lot of sunkens and enough zerglings to block the zealots for coming in while your sunkens kill them. This means you have to build a hatch at the choke to help close it and then build a lot sunkens behind it while producing zerglings to block the holes that your hatchery doesn't cover. Basically you can't be greedy at all. On some maps it's probably not possible without rushing one of them with 9 pool or something. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/9_Pool_(vs._Protoss) | ||
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