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Salema
United Kingdom21 Posts
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tmdtmdtmd
9 Posts
On August 04 2014 19:02 ninazerg wrote: Because this thread was so damn good before? If you truly, deep down in your heart, thought this should be handled in PMs, you should have PM'd both of the parties and asked politely for them to stop, but guess what? You posted a confrontational post in the thread. This was the best thread ever until you came and ruined it. Thanks zerg. | ||
fearthequeen
United States781 Posts
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Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
On August 04 2014 19:50 Salema wrote: Download Idra's replay pack from TSL... he does the same safe, standard macro style in each game. Where exactly would I download that? | ||
rebdomine
6040 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/news-archive/115850-tsl-ladder-replay-packs Rather than linking to just Idra's pack. Here's a whole bunch! | ||
pebble444
Italy2477 Posts
this is also useful for a read; I give my noob opinion on the subject; I play terran and TvP is my favorite matchup to play. Its very peacefully aggresive. you have to sim-city correctly, especially vs early zealot agression. Zelots are much more easy to deal with, when your supply depot is above or to the right of your barracks. doing a wall in is even more effective. Do not forget to make units off your factories. More marines early on means you can be more aggresive. Try to find out very often where the enemy army is for the mid game. scan, vultures and intuition all help in this. count the number of zelots vs the number of dragons. balance out your army accordingaly, zelots= vultures dragoons=tanks. For arbiters, you can or make many goliath, or use science vessels, or make 1 milion turrets. it depends on your style. For carriers, the real answer is scouting it while they are in production; get goliath range anyway even if no carrier, its a good investment most of the times. Now for a good terran to post his in-game experience | ||
Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
On August 05 2014 11:44 rebdomine wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/news-archive/115850-tsl-ladder-replay-packs Rather than linking to just Idra's pack. Here's a whole bunch! Thanks! | ||
icystorage
Jollibee19343 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/98223-roxkisbrat_ok-from-d-to-b here it is idk if the dl links still work but i learned a lot | ||
Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
On August 05 2014 20:29 icystorage wrote: Shit, I lost my BRAT_OK replay pack he went like 50-2 starting at D in iccup. I learned a lot in his climb especially in TvP and TvT http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/98223-roxkisbrat_ok-from-d-to-b here it is idk if the dl links still work but i learned a lot The download link is broken | ||
Socup
190 Posts
On July 29 2014 08:39 tmdtmdtmd wrote: Just switch to protoss, in bw protoss is the easiest and strongest race, a zealot has more hp than a tank and cost much less, just make 3 control group and make them auto attack terran main it's easy win. T is hard because you need to micro everything. You would only lose to a Terran player if that guy plays 24/7 and is 10 times better than you, but even then just make sure you recall on factories, win 100% of the time. But if you wanna be cool and not play the cheap race protoss, then keep practicing, you may win 1 out of 10 games, but when you do, it's sweet. User was warned for this post A zealot doesn't splash damage. A zealot doesn't have a range beyond their sight radius, either. | ||
Muff2n
United Kingdom246 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/bw-strategy/86770-stylishs-fpvods-06-10-update His BOs are a bit out of date but this will not matter in the slightest. Right now you are at the stage where you need to: a) Not die in the early game to cheese b) Get mechanics good enough to carry about a BO. If you can do this you can then pick up other BOs as necessary. But here he suggests to start with an FD, which is nice and safe and then into a BO that will get you good at pumping units. Also see his other videos for some tricks (such as how to lay lots of vulture mines). Happy brood-war-ing. | ||
radley
Poland577 Posts
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
On August 16 2014 00:46 radley wrote: There is nothing more funnier than beating protoss in terraprotoss vs protoss matchup. TvP is, in my opinion, for people who don't like themselves or like spending time on instant frustration. For me, TvZ is harder than TvP in every way Strategically and mechanically TvT i also harder than TvP | ||
JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On July 29 2014 14:17 Chameleon wrote: My real answer is watch the BratOK and Idra tvp games from the TSLs. That's what it's supposed to look like. Link to vod pls? I tried googling and searching TLPD but i failed ;/ | ||
pheer
5377 Posts
On August 05 2014 20:29 icystorage wrote: Shit, I lost my BRAT_OK replay pack he went like 50-2 starting at D in iccup. I learned a lot in his climb especially in TvP and TvT http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/brood-war/98223-roxkisbrat_ok-from-d-to-b here it is idk if the dl links still work but i learned a lot On August 06 2014 00:15 Leon1das1 wrote: The download link is broken Here's a working link to it: http://goodgame.ru/demo/14058/download/ | ||
Silentness
United States2821 Posts
--- Your wall obviously wasn't tight because goons were slipping through it. (Good thing he didn't fully commit inside your main) Your 2nd CC was really LATE, but then again the Toss had a late natural expand as well (wtf LOL). He went 1 gate range, and then sat on 500 minerals for a while. He maxed out at like 200/200 and you had 90 supply WTF. You need to keep pumping out tanks & vultures. You pumped out a lot of SCVs tho! He had several moments in the game where he could just walk up and kill you. Looked like he was just toying with you. Also you had like 5-6k minerals. Put down more factories, keep pumping out vultures and tanks. --- Your main focus should be build order & macro. Also you had an armory, but no upgrades... | ||
Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
On September 02 2014 05:52 Silentness wrote: I watched the replay and noticed that your macro was just REALLY BAD. --- Your wall obviously wasn't tight because goons were slipping through it. (Good thing he didn't fully commit inside your main) Your 2nd CC was really LATE, but then again the Toss had a late natural expand as well (wtf LOL). He went 1 gate range, and then sat on 500 minerals for a while. He maxed out at like 200/200 and you had 90 supply WTF. You need to keep pumping out tanks & vultures. You pumped out a lot of SCVs tho! He had several moments in the game where he could just walk up and kill you. Looked like he was just toying with you. Also you had like 5-6k minerals. Put down more factories, keep pumping out vultures and tanks. --- Your main focus should be build order & macro. Also you had an armory, but no upgrades... :/ yup | ||
Soulforged
Latvia868 Posts
2)Pick a safe opening. One safe opening. Stick with it for a few months. Learn what kind of things P can do, and learn how a pro'd react to each of them(and how they'd scout them). Practice a lot until you know your adaptations and don't miss a beat in macro(that's a hard thing to do properly - start out with trying to do it perfect at least when not under pressure, etc). Crucial thing is knowing the main adaptations - adapting to probe cut allins off [1,2,3] bases, greedy expansions with lack of both units and tech to defend it, tech/macro styles, tech allins, early proxy play, knowing how various P openings change the dynamics and how you should react - etc. Learn how various maps affect your strategy. 3)Pick another opening. Repeat. Having a good variety of openings and knowing how to react to [anything] with them, will protect you from early game blind build order advantages(not that much on ladder - but when it comes to BO's). That will also make it very hard to prepare against you. Just aim for solid play and you'll be doing great. When both players have no idea what they're doing, P has the advantage in this matchup...but that's it. | ||
Leon1das1
United States71 Posts
http://repdepot.net/download.php?type=rep&id=55924&name=Leon1 vs vi3rne13.rep In this game i went for a strong fd, obviously my execution sucked, however I am working on that. My question is how to fight. In this game I base trade him without knowing about the hidden bases. When I saw him push with dragoons should I have retreated to hold it off, base traded or gone and killed his other expos (if I had scouted correctly). | ||
Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
To your question on how to fight, you should have comsat stations ready when you start your push and take 2-3 SCVs with it and make turrets. Literally one dt killed your whole army because you didn't do it. The decision to retreat and defend or just push further depends on how strong the counter attack is. I would say if you only see a couple of goons, reinforcements should be able to handle it with the help of your SCVs at the natural. It is usually more important to prevent further counter attacks, so you should proceed to make a contain outside of his base. | ||
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