Like the title says, I'm a top Masters SC2 player who's switching to BW.
I really feel in love with the game in the last few weeks and now I want to go online and see how good I can become. Decided to play Terran like in SC2 and right now I'm looking for builds.
Are there solid Terran timing attacks in BW? Because I'd love to have 1 aggressive timing per match-up to practice and get into the game.
I can only talk about TvZ, but a very effective and strong strategy is opening with 1 rax fe and follow it up with +1 into 4/5 barracks. It really forces the zerg to play exceptionally safe and it's very easy to lose to by misjudging how many sunkens you need.
It gives you a lot of map control in the mid game and if you don't straight up kill him, most likely you will have prevented/killed his third, which is virtually the same.
One caveat: You'll be on one barracks for quite some time, so be watchful for strong zergling attacks. However, it's really hard to tell as a zerg whether whether you're going for a standard build order or a quick gas for +1 or medics, meaning if you don't overextend and you play safe, you should have no issues.
Welcome to BW I think you are going to love Terran :D
I am not a Terran player, but if you want to try in TvP to go for a ~100 supply timing push near ~10m, it can be a good starting point for mid-aggressive style and kind of benchmarking your skills/execution. It makes a nice opening for game, if you do it well there is danger for P to lose at that moment, and then lots of things can happen. It's a way of threatening greedy/techy/antiVultharrass plays and/or forces being out of position. As a P player, that stuff has scared me in the past lost a lot to it but at the same time it is interesting to play against. If you get outplayed by a good P at that moment when you go out though that can potentially be game over for you as well.
Definitely don't block your play on that plan in the long run though cause you should go for different things depending on what happens and what you see of course. I think when you become a better player (or have more knowledge/experience of BW specifically) you really want to play all the details rather than such a fixed plan.
this can be done with 4-5-6-7 factories depending on how early/late the p expo was made. Generally you need to start your attack when protoss starts to warp his new gateways.
also for the other two mus, these timing attacks will only work if the opponent does the thing you want to counter so there is no 1 general timing attack for any mu. if you just want to play agressive, for tvz use 4-5 rax pressure attacks, for tvp a general 5-6 fact attack or maybe dropship harass, for tvt lot of factories.
On February 24 2016 08:00 KawaiiSCV wrote: Like the title says, I'm a top Masters SC2 player who's switching to BW.
I really feel in love with the game in the last few weeks and now I want to go online and see how good I can become. Decided to play Terran like in SC2 and right now I'm looking for builds.
Are there solid Terran timing attacks in BW? Because I'd love to have 1 aggressive timing per match-up to practice and get into the game.
Thanks in advance~
Top Korean Terran Sea teaches you Terran with English Subtitles:
In TvP, Don't go for 2 base timing pushes unless you know that it's a good idea based on what has happened in the game. 2 base attacks are useful, and you should have them in your arsenal, but don't go for them blindly or without thinking. The only timing attack that you can always go for is the 3 base timing attack.
When you are playing to learn, however, you can do them all of the time, to test their limits.
Thanks for the great replies, guys. This is really helpful and the suggested builds are exactly what I was looking for.
Time to grind~
honestly i love +1 4/5 rax sometimes even 6 base mass pressure builds in TvZ if i do some searching i can probably find the rep of me beating Zaraki(A rank zerg) doing it. if you enjoy multi tasking and being every where they are really fun.
im a huge fan of the 3base 2/1 push tvp, and tvt is more going with the flow type play. but 2fact mass vulture builds are fun if you can mine well.
Also, a good followup to 1rax ebay TvZ build is getting a factory after 3(sometimes 4 rax) and attacking the zerg natural with siege mode and mass upgraded mnm(don't like it for cross positions,though). Extremely stong timing attack that relies on the zerg seeing the +1 build and moving his first lurkers to defend the 3rd,an example is here: Scan also used it vs trutaz on fighting spirit iirc, you can probably found the replay from the first tlcs.
Honestly just play against lower level players and try out. The best way to learn BW is to just do it. You will get a certain feel about what works and what won't. Then you can try out builds
Not trying to dissuade you from playing Terran, but from what I've heard most people feel that SC2 Terran is more similar to BW Protoss. Eventually, you should play a few games as the other races, just to get a feel for what it's like on the other side of the MU
But for now, enjoy Mech that actually kicks fucking ass!
Is it really possible for someone who has never played BW at a high level before to become strong not to loose 99 games over 100 ? I mean, it requires so much time playing just getting used to a proper micro.
On March 12 2016 17:15 Kyradax wrote: Is it really possible for someone who has never played BW at a high level before to become strong not to loose 99 games over 100 ? I mean, it requires so much time playing just getting used to a proper micro.
Yes, it's possible. People who have played other RTS games at high levels learn Brood War faster.
On March 12 2016 17:15 Kyradax wrote: Is it really possible for someone who has never played BW at a high level before to become strong not to loose 99 games over 100 ? I mean, it requires so much time playing just getting used to a proper micro.
That number is usually an exaggeration of how badly people fare when they start for the first time. It helps a lot to practice some builds versus the computer before playing against actual people.
On March 12 2016 17:15 Kyradax wrote: Is it really possible for someone who has never played BW at a high level before to become strong not to loose 99 games over 100 ? I mean, it requires so much time playing just getting used to a proper micro.
If you were decent at SC2 you can probably manage to win a couple games at D rank sure, they're pretty awful.
any higher and that 99 out of 100 games becomes quite realistic