please consider this replay :
http://bwreplays.com/s8j7y
I scout a fast third and I respond with fast timing push.
I need help on why it does not work.
thanks
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TwiggyWan
France328 Posts
please consider this replay : http://bwreplays.com/s8j7y I scout a fast third and I respond with fast timing push. I need help on why it does not work. thanks | ||
Ty2
United States1430 Posts
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TwiggyWan
France328 Posts
On April 13 2017 03:01 Ty2 wrote: Usually it's good to give an analysis of your own replay. Have you watched it yourself? hello, yes. I concluded that i sieged too late on the first push which made me lose the game. What's weird to me is that the protoss can invest so much in economy and still have a superior army. He also loses goons to the FD and yet has more troops than me. | ||
Piste
6137 Posts
You should try not to get supply blocked when going to push hard. Work on your scv production, it was pretty good but you can squeeze couple more | ||
TwiggyWan
France328 Posts
On April 13 2017 03:49 Piste wrote: Well the biggest mistake was micro. Scvs and vultures went too far ahead and didn't lay mines before dying. You should try not to get supply blocked when going to push hard. Work on your scv production, it was pretty good but you can squeeze couple more what about the number of factories? should I add more and push later? | ||
rand0MPrecisi0n
313 Posts
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Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
When you see the 3rd being build, why do you build an armory? It's useless for the push and delays additional factories. You don't get vulture speed either and get supply blocked at crucial times when your factories kick in. Btw the Protoss went for a standard 3 gate obs 3rd base which might have felt like a fast third because of your own delayed timings. His opening is pretty safe vs any kind of 2 base push. It is still doable with good micro and macro, but you cannot beat some offracing b+ player if you don't have equivalent macro skills. | ||
TwiggyWan
France328 Posts
When you see the 3rd being build, why do you build an armory? It's useless for the push and delays additional factories. I got it in order to get a couple of goliaths to deal with a possible shuttle. You guys are talking like 11 rax 11 gas isn't the standard FD. Did I miss something from the liquipedia build? Besides how do you know when to lay mines? I make contact with goons in middle of the map, from there at any moment protoss can choose to engage. Do I have to wait for him to engage then lay mines? Is it more important to lay mines or to siege? | ||
Cryoc
Germany909 Posts
On April 13 2017 07:14 TwiggyWan wrote: Show nested quote + When you see the 3rd being build, why do you build an armory? It's useless for the push and delays additional factories. I got it in order to get a couple of goliaths to deal with a possible shuttle. You guys are talking like 11 rax 11 gas isn't the standard FD. Did I miss something from the liquipedia build? Besides how do you know when to lay mines? I make contact with goons in middle of the map, from there at any moment protoss can choose to engage. Do I have to wait for him to engage then lay mines? Is it more important to lay mines or to siege? Goliaths come very late. It is better to use turrets and build vultures instead except you go for a very late 2 base push with like 6 factories. 11 rax 11 gas is standard for FD. The emphasis on 11 gas goes more in the direction, that you have to cut marines and scvs for this build to work, which you didn't and instead opted for a factory timing, which was probably later than a 12 rax 12 gas opening. It depends on how much goons you scout with your vultures compared to your forces. If he will win when you don't siege you should obviously siege and continue with a slow push from there on and mine the flank. But you want to go as far as possible without sieging. | ||
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