Poll: Who do you think will win? (Vote ): SK Telecom T1 (Vote ): WeMade FOX Poll: Who are you rooting for? (Vote ): SK Telecom T1 (Vote ): WeMade FOX
cool. Gogo skt! I wish Bisu could show as good results in MSl as he do in pro league.
oh god, potential mind Bisu and Bisu Shine rematches
3-1 SKT1! Bisu vs Mind looks like a game with a lot of potential
Wemade could win this. Pure/S2 and Best/Roro aren't really the matchups that SKT1 was looking for. Let's avoid dohsairs, hopefully.
skt 3-1 with s2 dropping a game ...
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3 Lions
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where is hyuk? i had to trade him away
NeverGG
United Kingdom 5399 Posts
Wow that was a fast use of my photo from last night XD I love tourney thread graphics. I'm going to this tomorrow provided I'm not too dead after OSL tonight. It should be fun provided Bunkie comes along. I'm supporting T1 of course!
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I wouldn't've believed that I would be saying this at the beginning of the season, but I expect this to be a close and good match. I think T1 is a slight favorite, but a Wemade win wouldn't surprise me at all.
On November 20 2009 10:41 DarkShadowz wrote: cool. Gogo skt! I wish Bisu could show as good results in MSl as he do in pro league.
lol, wasn't there a time when Bisu sucked in proleague and owned in individual leagues? Anyways, go T1!
On November 20 2009 11:26 ryuu_ wrote: I miss Nada...
don't we all. GO FANTASY
there are so many things wrong with these predictions. first off, best is going to besttank roro's ass and bisu will get shinetanked by shine if he is sent out for ace.
Very likely we will see Bisu v Mind (no way both Pure and Roro lose to those scrubs). If it gets to that game, I don't think Bisu is a lock to win but should have the advantage. Either way, as long as Fantasy loses to Baby i'll be happy.
On November 20 2009 11:15 thunk wrote: Wemade could win this. Pure/S2 and Best/Roro aren't really the matchups that SKT1 was looking for. Let's avoid dohsairs, hopefully.
Though it hasn't been tested against top Zergs yet, Best's PvZ looks pretty damn solid ever since he improved his corsair control.
konadora
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On November 20 2009 12:47 hyst.eric.al wrote: there are so many things wrong with these predictions. first off, best is going to besttank roro's ass and bisu will get shinetanked by shine if he is sent out for ace.
No way they are sending Shine on Match Point, after all those maps with an easy third gas, Zergs like Shine will get demolished on gasless third maps since he won't have the luxury of muta snipe/huge army. More like a terran sent out for ACE, since T>P in that map it seems.
Nice op! SK Telecom T1 3 - 1 WeMade FOXfantasy < Moon Glaive > BaBy s2 < Fighting Spirit > Pure BeSt < Outsider SE > RorOBisu < Tornado > Mind ACE: < Match Point >
It's gonna go to ace match... and SKT will send out... thezerg.
On November 20 2009 13:23 konadora wrote: SKT1 3-1
The curse of Konadora incoming. Wemade 3-1 + Show Spoiler + Gogo Wemade! Keep the hot streak alive! Looking forward to a potential Mind v. Bisu match. Should be fun to watch.
If Fantasy loses FOX could 3-0, but this going to ace match wouldnt suprise me either.
banner rocks best is far and away the coolest member of skt1
i really hope that SKT will win ... damn i want to see Bisu vs Mind in ACE . GO GO GO !
actually i think skt will send fantasy for the ace. but i dont think it goes to ace, i see a 3-1 for skt1.
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Fantasy > BaBy s2 < Pure BeSt < RorO Bisu > Mind Fantasy < Mind
lol, nice ace match prediction in the OP.
I think I decided to be a Wemade fan so they win 3-1.
gonna be an awesome matchup but i expect skt to win it 3>2 with bisu vs mind ace. btw,cool op.
I really hope it makes it to Bisu vs Mind. If they had also went against eachother in an ace match I would be so happy :3
I sort of remember the last RorO v Best being a lol game, with burrowing blocking and 10 morphing lurks dying to storm. Looking forward to rematch.
This is a bad line-up for both teams. Why send out s2 , when Hyuk has the momentum? And WeMade , why send out BaBy against SKT ? Why is Shine , your strongest player, omitted? Why is Midas not playing, when he might be motivated the most to defeat SKT ? s2 will terrifail against Pure . fantasy will suckercrush BaBy . Bisu will mannernexuspunch Mind . Only RorO versus BeSt would've been interesting, if not for BeSt upgrading his versus zerg lately, and if RorO hadn't been so shocked at doing better than mediocre that he lost six games in a row. SKT 3-1 WeMade FOX . It's annoying because it could've been an awesome match-up. Now it's just SKT failzerging their way to an easy victory.
Roffles
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Well, because I wanna watch this, I'll stream this bad boy. It's typically how it goes for me. http://tv.zeroboy.net/roffles And because I root against zerg, I like SKT's chances in 4.
I don't understand - shouldn't this event have started long ago? It says 13:00 KST
SKT1 will win 3-0, don't be hatin' on s2
On November 20 2009 22:57 Blyf wrote: I don't understand - shouldn't this event have started long ago? It says 13:00 KST
Tommorow
I don't really care how the rest of this match plays out, as long as Baby wins his game.
On November 20 2009 13:26 ArvickHero wrote: Show nested quote + On November 20 2009 12:47 hyst.eric.al wrote: there are so many things wrong with these predictions. first off, best is going to besttank roro's ass and bisu will get shinetanked by shine if he is sent out for ace.
No way they are sending Shine on Match Point, after all those maps with an easy third gas, Zergs like Shine will get demolished on gasless third maps since he won't have the
luxury of muta snipe/huge army.
More like a terran sent out for ACE, since T>P in that map it seems.
I found that funny(a sign Bisu is going to lose?)
I think everyone is forgetting that s2 has a 100% win rate in ZvP.
i will be streaming/commentating this match
Bisu vs. Mind rematch please go
Where the fuck is Hyuk, oh Hyuk, waiting for the ace perhaps?
Radfield
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On November 21 2009 00:44 OreoBoi wrote: I think everyone is forgetting that s2 has a 100% win rate in ZvP.
Only among televised games. His winrate is a bit sloppier once you factor in stuff like minor league. Still, its probably the best matchup he could have hoped for.
On November 20 2009 11:15 thunk wrote: Wemade could win this. Pure/S2 and Best/Roro aren't really the matchups that SKT1 was looking for. Let's avoid dohsairs, hopefully.
I can see Best being rattled like usual (altho his last play on Outsider was decent enough), but S2 couldn't really have asked for more?
On November 21 2009 03:36 cosiant wrote: Where the fuck is Hyuk, oh Hyuk, waiting for the ace perhaps?
against terran heavy WeMadeFox? Sure, lol.
I really don't understand the lack of Shine or Midas in this situation, especially when Midas has been crushing opponents on Moon Glaive. As much as I think BaBy will lose to fantasy, I still hope he kicks ass and proves us wrong. He's shown flashes of brilliance(especially in TvP) but he's just not consistent.
On November 20 2009 13:43 synapse wrote: It's gonna go to ace match... and SKT will send out... thezerg.
I was wondering what you would type. Then I scrolled down.. and facepalmed. That'd be the silliest ace choice ever, other than... Killer.
skt1 3-1 with fantasy losing
Cheering for Mind, BaBy, BeSt and Pure. Don't care whoever plays the ace match as long as those 4 players wins their match, I am happy.
On November 21 2009 08:49 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Shine > Bisu in 5th set.
you mean Bisu< Shine ...
lol what math class were you in?
I have a feeling that Baby will win against Fantasy. SKT1 3-2.
SKTT1 3-0 without Bisu again bet
fantasy > BaBy s2 < Pure BeSt > RorO Bisu > Mind 3:1 or 3:0 SKT1
bisu > mind please
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On November 21 2009 12:14 Re-Play- wrote: where are the streams??
Someone will post one when the match starts.
Kentor
United States 5784 Posts
As much as I love and respect T1, totally rooting for Wemade here. They are too awesome this season. Would love to see them take Round 1. GO FOX
what's the VLC for OGN again?
MrHoon
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Oh god, they are taking over Seoul.
Fantasy placing his racks in the middle of the map, Baby going for one in base.
Mind discusses strategy while bisu strokes his hair.
forward rax by fantasy nothing eventful at all.
baby walling in and expanding at natural.
Early expo for baby, 2 fact for Fantasy. Baby walls off one entrance, wont be able to block second.
fantasy doing dmg with 2 vults
double shop for Fantasy, tank out for Baby and the expo has gone up. Fantasy's expo is only about 1 min slower
fantasy's vultures in middle of map, both terrans have expo up but baby's is earlier. baby's first tank is out. fantasy mining the ramps leading to baby's base.
Baby going for hard wall at second entrance, Fantasy kills SCV but forced back. Minefield down for Fantasy, 1 lands on a tank. Fanta snipes 2 rines
baby expanding to 1:30 expo. units sprawled across middle of the map for both players. armory going up for baby.
haha baby's scv wasn't building
fantasy establishes good position on 1:30 expo. fantasy expanded to 6oclock expo as well. baby floats cc up.
Fantasy sieging Baby's third. I see 1 tank for Baby and about 6 for fantasy. Baby lifting his CC, wraiths coming from 1 port from Baby
fantasy going for the right side of the map, not a direct assault, trying to limit the amount of land baby has
fantasy is on the offensive look a wraith
baby harassing w/ wraiths and vults, trying to keep fantasy from building too big a macro lead
2 base vs 3. Fantasy lost map control for a sec there but has Gols now. and about 2x the tanks of Baby. make that 5X
NOW fantasy direct assault tries to end it lots of vults and tanks
fantasy has very large army barrelling into baby's natural. rides his macro advantage and baby forced to sacrifice SCVs.
Baby just sending in a bunch of SCVs to die!
Double sci is a good tvt build. And by good I mean
On November 21 2009 13:17 Kenpachi wrote: looks like baby lost.
baby let his supply depot burn down. he has a dropship, not sure how good it will be with wraiths and gols flying around. Baby still at 2 base, and he lost alot of SCV's
should be gg soon. I dont see Baby holding out for much longer.
On November 21 2009 13:18 LCC wrote: Double sci is a good tvt build. And by good I mean
bm nukes and bcs off 2 base gogogogogo
MrHoon
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lol fantasy doing what flash did to him
fantasy ignoring nat, dropping into main, should be gg soon
Fantasy going for elevator into Baby's base. its probably going to work. Baby running out of SCV's to pull
fantasy sieging baby's base from cliff, drops vultures into main. baby is forced to lift off factories.
does anyone get the idea that Fantasy plays with his opponents alot? I mean with Hoejja and now with Baby he had those games in the bag for about 10 minutes before they ended.
aww, baby dont cry, momma will buy you a mocking birdOn November 21 2009 13:21 Chen wrote: does anyone get the idea that Fantasy plays with his opponents alot? I mean with Hoejja and now with Baby he had those games in the bag for about 10 minutes before they ended.
I dont think Fantasy played with him. He played very well and did all the standard stuff. Baby just wouldnt gg. not his fault this time
handed out a signed towel that's one lucky fan...
On November 21 2009 13:21 Chen wrote: does anyone get the idea that Fantasy plays with his opponents alot? I mean with Hoejja and now with Baby he had those games in the bag for about 10 minutes before they ended.
no, he had to prevent baby from expanding into the northeast areas, then once he was secure in his lead he pushed and won easily
On November 21 2009 13:21 Chen wrote: does anyone get the idea that Fantasy plays with his opponents alot? I mean with Hoejja and now with Baby he had those games in the bag for about 10 minutes before they ended.
No, Baby didn't want to GG and Fantasy isn't as brutally efficient as Flash in TvT. Fantasy did everything he could to end the game while he definitely played around with Hoejja.
That was some pretty awesome play by fantasy...gg
ok, now time for a non-hyuk SKT zerg to fail so we get to see Bisu play. plz?
Well, that was pretty much a one sided rape. It was a classic case of Fantasy's vultures > everything else.
On November 21 2009 13:27 Chen wrote: ok, now time for a non-hyuk SKT zerg to fail so we get to see Bisu play. plz?
nope, s2 will win!!
SKT1 will win
Pure, rape this scrub. And then let your fellow protoss have their way with your teammates.
s2 winning sounds absurd as hell he better lose i actually want to see mind vs bisu
Pure dismantled Hyuk in the OSL. S2 is a likely a good player as far as B-team goes, considering his off-season performance. But Pure is a powerful toss looking to make a break.
On November 21 2009 13:27 dukethegold wrote: Well, that was pretty much a one sided rape. It was a classic case of Fantasy's vultures > everything else.
Wow, I just realized how true this statement is. Vultures delayed first expo and killed some marines. Mines landed on Baby's tanks softening them up. Vultures picked off low HP tanks in fights. Vultures defended Fantasy's 3rd and shut down/delayed Baby's 3rd.
I really want s2 to drop this, but it seems all he trains is vP, he's 100% on a 5 game win streak.
LOL s2 living up to the SKT stupid fail by changing overlord route away from pylon
overlord missing proxy pylon...
s2 12hatches vs a proxy gate
12 hatch vs proxy 2-gate. GG. at least Bisu gets to play
proxy 2gate pwnage. pure using probe to check for hidden expos. 1base vs 1base atm
is that the correct response to 12 hatch vs 2-gate? or are you just screwed if you dont scout it?
wow... pure hasn't done near enough damage yet... and s2 snuck 2 lings into his main...
s2 could be ok if he defends and gets second base, coach park looking confident
get the fricking pylon!!!!! #%$(@#$@#%
s2 doing more harass damage than pure
Pure might actually lose this considering s2 is getting a spire and Pure doesn't even have gas yet.
once the spire gets up, its game over for pure... its might even be over before that
wow is Pure really just going to pump zeals O.o Thought he would of gotten gas by now
if pure loses proxy 2gate vs 12hatch......
pure rushing in because spire's almsot done and he has no gas. two sunkens doing huge damage, simcity stands and pure is zealotless. 1base muta due any minute now.
lol 1 base Mutas. Pure just lost all most of his offensive capabilities with his zlots. both sunks survive lol.
Pure couldn't snipe any of the sunkens and loses all his zeals.
pure suicides zealots, sunks stay alive and s2 is in this!
wtf, pure should have ended it start of the game instead of going for nat. He give him time to set up sunkens instead
OMG WHAT DEFENSE ROFL he just got s2'ed
this is death... he just lost the entire zealot force... and mutas are on their way
holy shit, somehow that two sunken survived lol very good defense by s2
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those sunks will never go down
4 HP SUNKEN COLONY ROFLMAO. still 1 base vs 1 and Pure has cannons to stop Muta's
s2 picks off goons, saves muta
wow nice micro by S2, kills all the goons. taking out center now.
Seriously this is such an awful game. How did you throw this away Pure?
actually if he can survive... its one base muta-ling... the zerg won't have any econ...
MrHoon
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When I saw S2's base I thought this was ZvZ then I was like "lol...."
Pure sends 3 zeals to take out the sunken.. and still can't take it down
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they are called T1Zergs for a reason s2 is more then capable of losing this
pure expands before s2, if he can make this 2 base p vs 1 base z he's got this
MrHoon
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Lollllllllllllllllll S2 is still on 1 Base GET SOME GAS YOU NOOB
what??? an expansion when he's barely alive? whyy
NInja expo by pure .... if s2 scouts it, pure is done for LOL that ling is 2 inches away from winning him the game
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On November 21 2009 13:42 MrHoon wrote: When I saw S2's base I thought this was ZvZ then I was like "lol...."
When I saw Pure 's base, I thought this was Horang2 This is horrible.
notice toss has 3 gates on 1 base
1 base zerg vs 1 base toss, and the zerg is winning rofl. S2 gets his expo at about 15 minutes lol. Pure picked a bad spot to expo. unless that ling doesnt see it -.- but Muta's>Goons atm. and Ling doesnt see it -.-
omg... I can't beleive pure is still alive
HAHAHAHAHA S2 DOESN'T SEE THE NINJA EXPO LOL EVEN THOUGH HIS LING IS RIGHT BESIDE IT
s2 takes his natural after about 1000000 years
dont tell me S2 is gonna pull a hyuk and throw away all the advantages he got to lose this game ... please no
muta split to look for hidden shit
ok you cant miss this now.... Ninja expo spotted. finally
actually Pure would have had this game if his rush came a bit later and S2 was unable to cancel.
wow that split looked so nice from s2 finally scouting the expo
MrHoon
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this is a sad sad game for shame pure for shame
pure's hidden expo is nullified. s2's nat is fully up and running, and he is expanding to 9 oclock as well. pure is trying to establish his nat. this game is too long...
s2 gonna be on 3 base soon... Pure getting his ninja expo taken down by a single ling
lol finally ... just looking at the minimap makes me think that the game has just started lol
so 20 minutes into the game we settle into regularity of 2 base toss vs 3 base zerg.
MrHoon
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seriously wtf pure edit: NO WAIT A DT LOLL
s2 has no ovie w/ forces and pure has dts
EXPO DENIED! GG s2 ... even though i dont like you much but kudos ...
gg... pure can't stave it off any more
MrHoon
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okay Pure finally GGs lol wtf pure serious
s2 is making pure tink long and hard about his fail proxy 2gate. just chillin and not ending the game. pure gg's. looks like bisu wont be playing sigh
but pure instead sends the dt to an expo with ovies and loses
Pure GG's when he loses his DT. dammit now we dont get to see Bisu
On November 21 2009 13:46 MrHoon wrote: this is a sad sad game for shame pure for shame
And hes been doing good recently too
hmm.... do i want Best to win and Bisu to not play or Best to fail and a Bisu win hmm....
Wow S2. Granted, Pure fucked up big time, but S2 pulled off a miracle there.
On November 21 2009 13:50 lone_hydra wrote: hmm.... do i want Best to win and Bisu to not play or Best to fail and a Bisu win hmm....
Bisu can win any time ... I dont want Best to fail =(
surprisingly bad play from Pure i dont think that DT could of changed the game in anyway, s2 had 3 bases running and Pure only had his main and wasted minerals on 2 expos and didn't benefit from it at all
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now we just gotta see SKT1 play MONG
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I just realized S2 is 100% vP. @_@
S2's ZvP is still at 100%, folks! No more SKT failzergs? Hyuk=ZvZ Bonjwa S2=ZvP Bonjwa TheZerg=???
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On November 21 2009 13:50 Ra.Xor.2 wrote: Wow S2. Granted, Pure fucked up big time, but S2 pulled off a miracle there.
The man has to keep up his 100% televised ZvP winrate.
best's last pvz on outsider was impressive i forsee i good game, where best wont fail. this sucks basically no bisu vs mind which would of been epic, darn you s2 and your gosu sunken placement and micro...
On November 21 2009 13:55 dukethegold wrote: S2's ZvP is still at 100%, folks! No more SKT failzergs? Hyuk=ZvZ Bonjwa S2=ZvP Bonjwa TheZerg=???
-_-
Yea but... Look at his opponents and the fact that he only has played 5 games. Dont want to hype him :/ edit: 5 Live-matches.
On November 21 2009 13:55 dukethegold wrote: S2's ZvP is still at 100%, folks! No more SKT failzergs? Hyuk=ZvZ Bonjwa S2=ZvP Bonjwa kolll=ZvT Bonjwa
fixed
On November 21 2009 13:55 dukethegold wrote: S2's ZvP is still at 100%, folks! No more SKT failzergs? Hyuk=ZvZ Bonjwa S2=ZvP Bonjwa TheZerg=???
TheZerg is obviously bonjwa in all matchups.
On November 21 2009 13:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 13:55 dukethegold wrote: S2's ZvP is still at 100%, folks! No more SKT failzergs? Hyuk=ZvZ Bonjwa S2=ZvP Bonjwa TheZerg=???
TheZerg is obviously bonjwa in all matchups.
clearly, otherwise he wouldn't be THE zerg.
Oh god.... Tourney for MS Flight Simulator? LOL?
On November 21 2009 13:58 Disregard wrote: Oh god.... Tourney for MS Flight Simulator? LOL?
Lol ACE players can finally win something.
lol, who can fly a virtual jumbo jet this best
Congrats... Now you can operate a real 747!
On November 21 2009 13:54 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: I just realized S2 is 100% vP. @_@
Yeah, but like over 70% of his counted wins come from no team nonames in GOM.
You guys are ignoring THE SKT zerg called maestro ...
cmon roro dont fucking deny us bisu v mind
What happened to Best's sexy Ray Ban glasses?
well s2 is 2-0 so far zvp at proleague :D
On November 21 2009 14:01 LunarDestiny wrote: You guys are ignoring THE SKT zerg called
maestro ...
WTF? He is actually on SKT T1? He got so many people confused when he was scheduled to play against FBH during the offline preliminaries.
well SKT1 fans can go crazy as they wish about S2
inbase 2gate inc from best,
Im going laugh at pure for about a week if Best's 2gate works better than his.
On November 21 2009 14:05 Chen wrote: Im going laugh at pure for about a week if Best's 2gate works better than his.
2gate on outsider is standard, not cheese also he didn't proxy
This 2 gate expand has been popular among many tosses. Stork has played this build several times on Outsider
When you go for a 2 gate, don't you have to do some damage? I think best is behind right now
is roro just massing lings? nvm lair down
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i can't believe people are considering 2 gate as cheese. it's only cheese if its outside the proximity of the base.
Spire for roro... first corsairs out for best
On November 21 2009 14:08 LunarDestiny wrote: When you go for a 2 gate, don't you have to do some damage? I think best is behind right now
Think of this 2 gate and zealots as 2 cannons and zealots. It protects the main and the back mineral expansion without wasting money on cannons and quick forge.
sair reaver inc from best
4 sunks... there's no way Best can break that right now...
wow, 3-4 sunks at each base for Roro. oh man time for the elevator.
Gah Wemade what happened? 2-0ed right now? T____T
elevating zealots into roro's main ... sexy move <3
Sneaky elevator may win best the game
nice elevator play!!... only one sunk in main.. this could really do some damage
Roro loses so much overlords there. That's going to hurt so much. :[
Goddamn zealot army got raped...
drones hydras and sunken own best's elevatored zealots
roro still in it, best has lots of sairs no army
corsairs having a field day, killing over 9000 ovies ...
still Best got about 10 overlords there. not a horrible trade
hooooly shit... I don't know who came out ahead. Best lost all his lots without much damage but he also took out like 7-8 overlords while the hydras were out of position
mass hydra-> gg? EDIT: nevermind, 2 reavers at the front
fuck yeah... burrow saved the drones
lol Burrow. Best with like 4 reavers. ah he lost the reaver.
ahhhh shuttle gets scourged!1
Can't see roro losing this one
i like roro's burrowed ling scouts to spot movement
Shuttle gets sniped by Roro's scourge.
scourges took down that shuttle ...
those burrowed zerglings are so good at scouting... frick...
the problem is, best's pvz involves losing shuttle reaver, and then overwhelming his opponent with macro anyways
best storms his own sairs and kills no drones
nice storms... best doing a great job of harassing right now
Best fail storms doing more damage to his sairs than to Roro's drones
wow best, think you have enough cannons there?
lol lost a whole bunch of corsairs
wow most of best's corsairs get owned by scourge
Best loses a shitton of sairs to scourge. Left with 2-3 sairs.
LOL FAIL DROP. and best loses all of his sairs to scourge -.-
Lol guess Best doesn't want his sairs.
Best suicide most of his sairs .... why? >_<
ah roro's lurker harass gets reaver'd... but on the plus side he scourges most of the sairs
last effort push incoming
Best going to slow push with Reavers lol. this is going to be golden.
slow reavers move out on the map
no shuttle for those reavers?? why best?
On November 21 2009 14:19 meeple wrote: no shuttle for those reavers?? why best?
so he can't lose them to scourge again I'd guess
Roro going for massive flank, that or a counter attack. Best kills it. and that DT is so fail
HSHAHAHAHAHAHHA EPIC OBSERVER SNIPING
Roro denies Best's basebusting move by sniping obs. Best's dt FINALLY slicing drones.
One of bests expasions killed and his attack force severly weakened
Lol finally the DT kills the drones.
dt waited for drones to hatch so it could get 10 kills
That´s the laziest Dark Templar ever...
lol dt starts being less fail... wipes out most of the drones at the expo
wow best ... tsk tsk tsk at least we get to see bisu play right? ... *sigh*
wow... roro fucking balling... zealot harass does absolutely nothing
Well Best's drop fails again. but wow his macro is good, he could break if his obs live
best is the definition of toss 1a2a3a4a5z6z7z8z
somehow best still in this... epic obs snipes though...
i'd love to see roro's resource count, bet it's really high
lol best that was such fail. he had that game in the bag too. :|
On November 21 2009 14:26 dmetheny wrote: lol best that was such fail. he had that game in the bag too. :|
when?
wow.. Best takes out the natural of Roro... where are your units???
1 Base vs like 5 isnt going to work for Best much longer
Roro is really having trouble producing enough units. Even though he has a ton of bases.
roro please please build an army
Best must be low on mins though
Roro has bad drone saturation at all bases. If Best is really aggresive, he could take out alot of bases.
Best has this ez, he still has a mining base.
waiting for 9000 imbalisks...
Best ignoring the 5 hydras in his main
On November 21 2009 14:27 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Best has this ez, he still has a mining base.
Zerg has 7 bases with minerals
BeSt is trying to prove he is THE man, but failing. Only mining base going down.
roro being smart and going for the expansions now. Best probably very low on minerals now
that one ling raping hard =|
On November 21 2009 14:28 Marine50 wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 14:27 HwangjaeTerran wrote: Best has this ez, he still has a mining base.
Zerg has 7 bases with minerals
but almost no drones
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omg, hero zergling single handedly taking out all those probes... 18 kills and counting...
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MrHoon
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k19 probe kill Zerglings wow hahaha
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lmao at this one ling raping bests probes
lol one ling taking down 20 probes ...
Seriously pay attention you've only got one base mining you should have killed that ling waay sooner T.T
wtf Hero ling -.- 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19 kills Best fails at life can we agree?
LOLLOL Roro with a 19 kill hero Devouring One.
OMG. That ling had 19 kills.
That zergling got enough EXP to become an ultralisk.
love the commentators hero zergling like a dt hahaha so funny you should hear everything they say xD goes on to joke some more too
On November 21 2009 14:29 HwangjaeTerran wrote: That zergling got enough EXP to become an ultralisk.
10gold per kill.
best ggs, roro beats best with minimal units
gg Best's last mining expansion goes down to some lings
Best ggs finally as Roro takes down his last expo and his attack fizzles out. Bisu v. Mind time. :o
MrHoon
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nicely played from roro. That ling was pro
For some reason I have this mental image of Best trying to hammer a round peg into a square hole.
ty so much best!! Now we get to watch the highlight match =)
Australia 14568 Posts
Well at least I get to see Bisu play today, go Bisu!
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Bisu vs Mind gonna be good. Go Mind!
Fox is still in this, but SKT1s titan is coming out. This is gonna be tough for fox.
I suppose that helps out my fantasy team at least. Always like to see Bisu play ^.^
s2 is making pure tink long and hard about his fail proxy 2gate. just chillin and not ending the game. pure gg's. looks like bisu wont be playing sigh
Pure GG's when he loses his DT. dammit now we dont get to see Bisu
After the game... SKT coach: "Best, why didn't you attack his expansions on the outside of the map?" Best: "THERE'S EXPOS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THIS MAP?!"
MrHoon
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On November 21 2009 14:32 Jyvblamo wrote: After the game... SKT coach: "Best, why didn't you attack his expansions on the outside of the map?" Best: "THERE'S EXPOS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THIS MAP?!"
SKT Coach: "WHY DID YOU RAM YOUR SHUTTLES INTO SCOURGES?!?!?" Best: "THEY WERENT CORSAIRS????????????????????????????????????"
Best is being comforted by the mascot. Best has fallen to a new low.
On November 21 2009 14:32 Jyvblamo wrote: After the game... SKT coach: "Best, why didn't you attack his expansions on the outside of the map?" Best: "THERE'S EXPOS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THIS MAP?!"
In all fairness the Zerg is much better at ferrying around units, and the second main had about 5 sunks at the top of a small ramp
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that was horrible by both players -_- where was Roro's army
On November 21 2009 14:33 MrHoon wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 14:32 Jyvblamo wrote: After the game... SKT coach: "Best, why didn't you attack his expansions on the outside of the map?" Best: "THERE'S EXPOS ON THE OUTSIDE OF THIS MAP?!"
SKT Coach: "WHY DID YOU RAM YOUR SHUTTLES INTO SCOURGES?!?!?"
Best: "THEY WERENT CORSAIRS????????????????????????????????????"
He's right. They were.... DOHSAIRS.
Park Sung Gyoon fighting!
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THATS WHY WE CALL DEM DOSAIRS.
Thank you for that Best. I was really looking forward to Bisu vs Mind.
Should go to recommended. Best played really good early game and then he blew it by attacking the same fortified area repeatedly. Roro did nothing but expanding here. Anyway, it was quite exciting.
Best did close to nothing with his sair/reaver
Roro, my favorite Zerg now cuz I use Burrow for scouting and keeping check on the opponent as well!
I think instead of burning all his army trying to break Roro's main, Best could have attacked the 5 o'clock expo then moved on to the undefended 7 o'clock. That would have hurt Roro's economy since the main was mined out anyway.
MrHoon
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hahaha look at all those sairs dropping
On November 21 2009 14:35 Xiphos wrote: Roro, my favorite Zerg now cuz I use Burrow for scouting and keeping check on the opponent as well!
I believe that is a standard against reaver sair.
On November 21 2009 14:35 kvilx wrote: Should go to recommended. Best played really good early game and then he blew it by attacking the same fortified area repeatedly. Roro did nothing but expanding here. Anyway, it was quite exciting.
The 5-o-clock expo has like 5 sunkens. If I was best, I would also go for the natural since he is way behind in bases.
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dohttles, dohbservers, dohsairs... we had almost everything except for the dohbiter
MrHoon
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On November 21 2009 14:38 LosingID8 wrote: dohttles, dohbservers, dohsairs... we had almost everything except for the dohbiter
LoL...
tosses always go for the nat on outsider, it *never* works against pro zergs
We didn't see a dohscout or dohrk archon.
look at the map stats o.O no P has won a game
Haha, only now I realised it's a rematch for old MSL final. Go Mind!
Bisu Yellow @ 10 Mind Red @7
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Bisu making his first gateway in his main.
Those signs need more effort.
On November 21 2009 14:42 EvoChamber wrote: Bisu making his first gateway in his main.
You thought bisu would cheese?
On November 21 2009 14:42 EvoChamber wrote: Bisu making his first gateway in his main.
There's a joke about cheese somewhere in there, isn't there!
Korea (South) 3086 Posts
Hm, that 1Rax FE build is becoming very common in TvP nowadays.
wow hes going to get away with 1 rax into CC. 1 zlot in there to annoy Mind
MrHoon
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ur phace is comon slivrsky
Would not walling off be bisu's demise? EDIT: Brain went stupid there.
wow mind has massive balls, bisu is so behind now lol
Bisu goes for nex--> robo Mind got his expo up so much faster than Bisu. SCV scouts the main
Bisu's harass failed mostly... so he throws down a nexus to try and catch up with Mind's econ.
how costly is repair? any idea?
Goon pressure on the bunker.
Wow another expo from Bisu
Oh shit double expand from bisu off of 1 gate. Mind hasnt seen it yet. If hes still on 1 fact this could be bad.
Both players with balls of steel. Bisu Double expos!
whoa, Bisu double-expanding?
bisu gonna drop into mind's base
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On November 21 2009 14:45 MrHoon wrote: ur phace is comon slivrsky
Well I do make the GFX around here. So I guess that's normal.
On November 21 2009 14:47 jalstar wrote: bisu gonna drop into mind's base
mind knows this so he build turrets
On November 21 2009 14:47 Chen wrote: Oh shit double expand from bisu off of 1 gate. Mind hasnt seen it yet. If hes still on 1 fact this could be bad.
Pulling off a 14cc in tvp then scouting what the toss is doing is pretty much gg i expect mind to rape bisu now
wow sick mind game from Bisu, place a robo, let Mind scout it, then double expand while Mind tries to secure what he thinks is an advantage.
reaver inc... but Mind is pretty prepared... turrets going up everywhere
Mind is turreting his main, Bio plan?
Excellent turret placement by mind
Faraday cage of turrets up.
Turret matrix is up. Whooa, that wasn't walled in?
LOL fails to block vultures =)
Korea (South) 3086 Posts
Ahahaha terrible wall by Bisu. Doesn't stop vultures at all.
-______- Bisu wall failed him
zomg the vultures! look at bisu's face =[
gahhh Bisu... doesn't wall off tight and his probes get rapedd!
Bisu fails at pylon wallings and somehow allows Mind's vultures to snipe a few probes.
Fuck. Everything is going right for Mind right now.
oh bisu
Mind's building another CC in his nat. Floating over to another mineral patch.
On November 21 2009 14:50 muramasa wrote: Fuck. Everything is going right for Mind right now.
this is not true, bisu's in this game
3 base on 3 base when Mind lands his CC. arbs coming for Bisu.
Mind takes his third... Bisu getting arbiters looks like
3 base vs 3 base, mind has this in the bag
Bisu's going to pull it off !
More probes go down for Bisu. Dropship is out for Mind. 4th coming up for Bisu tho
What? slow lots for Bisu fail to stop vultures from raping some more probes
On November 21 2009 14:52 Scaramanga wrote: 3 base vs 3 base, mind has this in the bag
if he had map control this would be true, but bisu's running around picking off mines and getting a 4th up
Bisu: "I eat mines for breakfast".
Australia 14568 Posts
Bisu is losing goons needlessly when he has an observer..
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Korea (South) 3086 Posts
Bisu is playing like a D+ Toss this game. I haven't seen him properly walk across a minefield once this entire game without losing all his goons. LOL
Bisu puts up a 5th... but he might be spreading himself thin, it doesn't lok like he has much of a force
one mine takes out 4 goons.
Woo, mines too good. Goons go boom =p
Niiice micro by both players there. Just too many vults to handle.
Bisu is screwing up all over the place, loses 3 goons to mines. double stargates for arbs tho. 5th base coming down. wow Vultures rape the goons, Bisu loses about 6 more
i have to admit bisu is getting sloppy
if there is a sc god, its definatly on minds side
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mind is winning with just vultures.
mind failing to take advantage of anything
Mind's got to do some damage soon before Bisu gets a ton of gateways going.
bisu is gonna 1a2a3a if mind dosent' push
Mind with massive turret wall and Tank lines everywhere. Bisu going to about 16 gateways
Yeah Minds gotta push soon or this might be over.
bisu making up for his mistakes with 6 bases
there's no way mind needs that many turrets
Mind is definitely not getting recalled without some major losses to Bisu's army... mines and turrets all over the place
I predict hallucination+recall = NalRa style
mind seems like he just wants 200/200 x.x
Fuckloads of turrets and mines. Bisu probably won't be able to recall without losing everything. Nevermind. Bisu managed to recall in exactly the right spot somehow.
It takes some ridiculous amount of patience to hold up on 3 bases this long in a TvP. Reminds me of a Colosseum game, but it seems overdue for Mind to attack.
On November 21 2009 14:56 jalstar wrote: there's no way mind needs that many turrets
and they don't even stop a recall
LOL @ epic terran traffic jam
lol bit of a fail there by our observers
wtf? how did mines not Kill Bisu's recall? still this isnt going to do much other than kill some turrets and SCV's. LOL BISU RECALLED A PROBE
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Despite all those turrets and mines, Bisu found a sweet spot to recall into haha, too bad they all get wiped out anyway.
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On November 21 2009 14:57 JSH wrote: 6 bases to 3... lol
Only winnable if you're Flash.
how is mind not at 200 yet
bisu's gonna suicide his army to free up supply
Mind needs to push out asap to shut down some of these expos
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I'm pretty sure Mind has lost this...
mind god how did you blow this? honestly when he took out those goons at the start he should have pushed, not much he can do now
another recall... Bisu so far ahead now
Bisu is wasting sooo many units on those recalls...
Mind with the amazing 1 tank assault on 12.
mind counters bisu's recalls with one tank
lesson: learn how to two fact
What is that tank doing all alone in enemy territory?
Holy fuck Bisu is on like 25 gateways. hes probably building units faster than Mind can kill them. and he recalls that base again. and he looks like he wants to go for a third.
Korea (South) 3086 Posts
LMFAOFALFMAO. SCOUTING TANK.
LoL, lone tank wnaders into Bisu 5th
bisu just recalling like a bitch
why is mind going fur such a gay style, hes more creative than that,..,.
Australia 14568 Posts
LOL lone tank among all the gate ways. Bisu does a third recall in the same spot LOL This game is over I think, Bisu has too many bases and gates.
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if mind wants to do it this way... he is better or emping the arbiter b4 they recall
On November 21 2009 14:59 Sentient66 wrote: Bisu is wasting sooo many units on those recalls...
Mind hasn't been mining at his third for a while now though. It's worth it for him.
Australia 14568 Posts
You know with those three recalls he could have taken out that CC to stop Mind from mining
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That tank is like chuck-arnold-seagal, Bisu has no chance...
wow at how many gateways bisu has constant pressure on Mind
OMG storms!!... Wipes out Minds entire tank group...
mind is so fucked, his tanks r at low health and hes nearly mined out
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wtf was mind's game plan... whats the point of turtling and letting bisu get 8 bases
Australia 14568 Posts
How many gateways does Bisu have? Anyone count?
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OMFG 40 gateways from Bisu
That push got raped by Templar lol. Mind needs to kill about 3 expos to get back into this. Mind at 150ish food.
the only terran i know who can do this kind of stuff is flash
oh yeah that's Bisu baby <3 <3
Finally mInd takes down one of Bisu's expos with a couple tanks
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On November 21 2009 15:01 Jyvblamo wrote: That's the only unit in Minds army that has any backbone
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On November 21 2009 15:02 meeple wrote: Finally mInd takes down one of Bisu's expos with a couple tanks
one of bisu's 7 expos
On November 21 2009 15:01 lavion wrote: the only terran i know who can do this kind of stuff is flash
flash would not let bisu have so many bases
Mind looking mad at himself. I like this style of Play. Terran turtles on 3 base, Toss gets about 7 bases with 40 gateways and just shoves units down the Terran's throat
alright mind tag nada in, he knows how to kill toss with too many gateways
if i were bisu i would just mass zealots and 1a3a4a
mind is trying to set up new expo but its so far away that he has to split his forces and bisu is pushing into main.
Bisu can make armies faster than he can lose em.
Bisu rapes mind's 3rd. Gg
Gg Mind's third goes down
Arbiters are disgusting... IMBA UNIT PLZ
1a2a3a4a5a That was sad. Mind lets Bisu win the game by doining nothing for like 10 minutes.
GG! Bisu wins! 3-1 for SKT1
Bisu goes around Mind's tank line, kills the third base. Mind GG's 3-1 SKT
Saurontoss, revolution in PvT... not really..
On November 21 2009 15:03 jalstar wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 15:01 lavion wrote: the only terran i know who can do this kind of stuff is flash
flash would not let bisu have so many bases
yeah, flash has a imbal timing sense to own the toss before that happens
Korea (South) 3086 Posts
I have no clue how Mind lost that... *sigh* Rommel...
Not sure what Mind was thinking that game. Bisu barely needed to micro anything all game - it was all macro and a couple recalls to keep Mind busy.
How did bisu have money for units, 7 expos, and replacing all his eaten probes? Lolol fail mind
Hasnt beaten the record of 50 gateways yet.
GG, really didnt expect bisu to pull that out at certain points in that game...
On November 21 2009 15:03 jalstar wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 15:01 lavion wrote: the only terran i know who can do this kind of stuff is flash
flash would not let bisu have so many bases
Flash let Best take about 5 uncontested bases
On November 21 2009 15:05 TimmyMac wrote: How did bisu have money for units, 7 expos, and replacing all his eaten probes? Lolol fail mind
welcome to tvp
that wasn't even close -_-
thats what happens when terran plays too girly
United States 32511 Posts
where was the macro, mind
Damn. Mind really didn't have a plan for the late game. Bisu played really sloppy throughout the game, but it didn't matter in the end.
Bisu expanded like a zerg ... that's why he won ... Mind was like "lol 1 expo down for you" and Bisu was like "lol big fucking deal *APM 400=* ...hah! im 200/200 AGAIN" ...
On November 21 2009 15:06 lazz wrote: thats what happens when terran plays too girly
nono that´s when protoss
Why did Mind put his tank force 3'o clock when mid was wide open?
On November 21 2009 15:04 muramasa wrote: 1a2a3a4a5a That was sad. Mind lets Bisu win the game by doining nothing for like 10 minutes.
He wasn't doing nothing dude, he was building turrets. lots and lots of turrets. that did absolutely nothing.
I like how 20 turrets aren't enough to stop Protoss from getting a recall off.
On November 21 2009 15:07 InDaHouse wrote: Why did Mind put his tank force 3'o clock when mid was wide open?
He needed to establish/defend a 4th base?
bisu is the daily mvp, what a surprise
On November 21 2009 15:04 lavion wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 15:03 jalstar wrote: On November 21 2009 15:01 lavion wrote: the only terran i know who can do this kind of stuff is flash
flash would not let bisu have so many bases
yeah, flash has a imbal timing sense to own the toss before that happens
If he could only micro his marines vs toss...
ah, sweet sweet terran tears in this thread
On November 21 2009 15:08 Chen wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 15:07 InDaHouse wrote: Why did Mind put his tank force 3'o clock when mid was wide open?
He needed to establish/defend a 4th base?
But still thet didn't have any vulture support so they were easy targets for zealot rolls
On November 21 2009 15:09 lazz wrote: ah, sweet sweet terran tears in this thread
I would rather see zerg tears, but they won their games tonight. Havn't seen pure zerg tear in a while, jaedong lost couple times but that was to another zerg. -_-
lol mind completely lost it at the end
On November 21 2009 15:09 lazz wrote: ah, sweet sweet terran tears in this thread
Why the hell are people calling Imba in this game. you let ANYONE take FOUR MORE BASES THAN YOU. you are going to lose. period.
On November 21 2009 15:10 Chen wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 15:09 lazz wrote: ah, sweet sweet terran tears in this thread
Why the hell are people calling Imba in this game. you let ANYONE take FOUR MORE BASES THAN YOU. you are going to lose. period.
taking 4 more bases than terran in pvt is a good skill to have
Mind didn't shut down Bisu's 4th Expo, he didn't expand himself to get a 4th, his timing was horrible (could've shut down Bisu's triple expos with a bit of tanks. And what the hell was the Dropship doing? He made a detour, wasted so much time.
1 Turret = 1 Vulture 1 Vulture = 3 Mines 3 Mines = Half of Recall killed instantly. But Mind just HAD TO build those Turrets anyway...
If he had just mined the shit out of his third he could've taken out a large portion of Bisu's force and pushed up with his own...
On November 21 2009 15:12 kvilx wrote: 1 Turret = 1 Vulture 1 Vulture = 3 Mines 3 Mines = Half of Recall killed instantly. But Mind just HAD TO build those Turrets anyway...
Maybe mind was a pussy in this game? 1 storm drop= COULD take out 10+ probes 1 doom recall= COULD be gg Yeah, mind was playing too defensive.
MrHoon
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On November 21 2009 15:11 lavion wrote: Show nested quote + On November 21 2009 15:10 Chen wrote: On November 21 2009 15:09 lazz wrote: ah, sweet sweet terran tears in this thread
Why the hell are people calling Imba in this game. you let ANYONE take FOUR MORE BASES THAN YOU. you are going to lose. period.
taking 4 more bases than terran in pvt is a good skill to
i have
goddamnit get it right people
samsung isn't last currently yay lol
On November 21 2009 15:12 kvilx wrote: 1 Turret = 1 Vulture 1 Vulture = 3 Mines 3 Mines = Half of Recall killed instantly. But Mind just HAD TO build those Turrets anyway...
yeah just build spider mines right next to your scvs that'll end well
And you thought seeing 200 turrets in one base would stop Bisu from recalling, you were wrong.
I am not quite sure what Mind was trying to do, turtling from just three bases while Bisu is expanding like a Zerg on crack. I seriously laughed when Bisu's arbiter managed to recall on Mind's 3rd in spite of the 20 turret defense.
didn't even have to hallucinate this time
What time is the ACE match?
On November 21 2009 16:08 kdog3683 wrote: What time is the ACE match?
what? skt won 3-1
On November 21 2009 16:08 kdog3683 wrote: What time is the ACE match?
You mean the Air Force ACE match? Cuz its over... look for the LR thread.
On November 21 2009 16:08 kdog3683 wrote: What time is the ACE match?
There is a calendar on the top right side of TL with that information.
Doh Jae Wook
pripple
Finland 1714 Posts
what was that Pure? i am disappoint. well seems like the games was good at least, 3/4 recommended ;p
I'm looking forward to fantasy vs Baby VOD, I woke up late and missed it =(
Sweet terran tears indeed xD Turtling on 3 bases against Bisu or Best is not a good skill toi have.
allrighty. who the fuck is s2? ahaha xD and.. er... best still sucks at PvZ oh boy
United States 4796 Posts
Hehe. Dosair. And Pure lost....which is kinda sad. S2 is 100% against protoss!
On November 22 2009 08:24 Aurioch wrote: Any replays up yet?
replays from televised progamers are never ever released. Check the Small VOD thread for vod's though.
On November 22 2009 08:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote: replays from televised progamers are never ever released. Check the Small VOD thread for vod's though.
That's what I meant haha :D
Just to insult Best?! TWO MONTHS? You waited two months? Unforgiveable.
timing attack: wait 62 days and ctrl+v that shit
BAN! I was trying to read Bisu vs. Mind game then I was like WTF I'VE READ THIS BEFORE =(