I BELIEVE IN BEE-SUIT!!! Bisu All-Kill redemption coming!
First Skyhigh to show the arrogant noob what it means be Bisurrogant then Savior for lols, then Movie for a screw you, im king of PvZ, and its BvP fool!
then Effort for an lol, I killed off ur master, you and now ur entire team and now I just made it 3-0 Me vs you!
Bisu has always been my fav of the 3 guys always at the top.
Best for 3-kill including one against Effort, and then bisu finishes by defeating his kryptonite again (though its starting to seem as if everyone's his kryptonite =\ )
1 scv on gas for skyhigh. Scouts fantasy and sends two rines. Starts CC asap. Fact making for fantasy. Skyhigh picks off an scv, but fantasy gets a bunker up and skyhigh backs off.
Fantasy at 5 scv kills at skyhigh's nat so far. Cloak is in with scanners just started. Got about 8 scvs, I think. Escapes with a single loss and a badly damaged wraith.
Skyhigh's vults get in! Picks off 5-6 scvs, including all the gas miners. Wraiths clean up.
Fantasy's wraiths head out for more harassment. Mostly just scout and get out of there, though.
Fantasy gets two vults into Skyhigh's main and gets an scv or two. Skyhigh shows his wraiths. Picking off tanks. Fantasy tries to use his wraiths to move him off, but skyhigh has the numbers by far. Skyhigh tanks in range of fantasy's nat. Fantasy forces skyhigh to retreat, but skyhigh has control of the high ground outside fantasy's min only.
Fantasy building up his wraith numbers, but skyhigh owning fantasy's tanks in the field. Turret/gol forces the wraiths away, but he changes tactics and sieges the natural as well with wraiths spotting. Skyhigh taking top left, fantasy with vults trying to stop the expo. Fantasy not mining mins at nat. Skyhigh's tanks at the min only can hit about half of those patches.
Fantasy clears the tanks outside of his natural. Skyhigh's expo at top left is stalled, but he's taking the bottom expo now. Fantasy building cc inside main to take top expansion.
Fantasy trying to push up onto the high ground, but skyhigh has a nice arc. Top left and bottom expos going for skyhigh. Fantasy landing cc at top.
Fantasy attempts vult harass at top left, gets stuffed. Fantasy trying to push back skyhigh, but skyhigh's reinforcements are arriving. Tank numbers roughly even. Skyhigh scouts top expo with wraiths, and owns it.
Fantasy trying to lay mines along reinforcement paths, but seen by wraiths. Fantasy taking bottom right. Skyhigh trying to tank fantasy's natural again. Not much fantasy can do about it this time.
Fantasy trying to vult harass still, but skyhigh just has units everywhere. Skyhigh taking top expo now. Fantasy using tanks to run off skyhigh from his natural. Skyhigh going for the high ground.
Valks give fantasy air dominance. Small number of wraiths, though, which are pushed away by goliaths. Fantasy again trying to mine reinforcement lanes. Can't see him pushing skyhigh back now, though. Vults shut down skyhigh's bottom expo. Cleared out easily, though.
Observer doesn't show us what happens when the reinforcements go by the mines, but I assume the gols shot them down
Skyhigh gets 3 dropships in fantasy's main. Fantasy forced to pull troops back. Skyhigh ferrying units up.
Fantasy with just too few tanks. Not giving up ground but his base is mostly rubble. Skyhigh moving back up on the high ground. Fantasy takes his force there out, though. Pushes the bottom expo.
Skyhigh drops 6 dropships worth of stuff on fantasy's push. Fantasy still trying to kill scvs at that bottom expo, but skyhigh has another 3 running bases besides.
Drop on fantasy's main. Facts going down, gg from fantasy.
whats with best being sent out PvT on moon glaive? that map is really, really hard for PvT. even FBH beat best on moon glaive ffs. (sure it was an all-in but w/e)
On January 30 2010 13:36 lazz wrote: whats with best being sent out PvT on moon glaive? that map is really, really hard for PvT. even FBH beat best on moon glaive ffs. (sure it was an all-in but w/e)
Roadrunner. I think SKT protoss has practiced against TvP rushes this time 'round. Straight up I would give the advantage to BeSt even with the map.
I don't see who else SKT would send out on Moon Glaive. Looks like a decent enough map for Best PvT (at least in comparison to anybody else they'd send out at this point). And yeah, it was RoadRunner FBH beat Best on.
On January 30 2010 13:36 lazz wrote: whats with best being sent out PvT on moon glaive? that map is really, really hard for PvT. even FBH beat best on moon glaive ffs. (sure it was an all-in but w/e)
Roadrunner. I think SKT protoss has practiced against TvP rushes this time 'round. Straight up I would give the advantage to BeSt even with the map.
i just really dont want to see best get run over by some cheesy 2 fac or 6 fac all-in AGAIN. it's getting kind of old.
Best expanding. Skyhigh getting turrets up. Landing CC. Observers from the proxy robo, Best pyloning off the ~10 expo. Takes it. Up to 6 gates. Skyhigh upping to 4 facts.
Skyhigh almost mines up the retreat path for the goons. Seriously, half a second separated those goons from total ownage. Best gaining some ground with shuttle. 3 vults get into the third. Mines own goons, lots of probes dead.
Best countering at the natural of skyhigh. Forced to retreat with little damage done. Skyhigh pushing down the hill. Best's shuttle and surround let him polish off skyhigh's push with several goons left, though quite a few die to mines. Reinforcing speed zeals let best take down the new push in the middle. Best with map control. and eight gates. Skyhigh taking his third, above his natural. Still no second gas for Best. Skyhigh has 5 facts.
How did Skyhigh not see that flank coming? He knew the goons were out there (they went all the way to his base and said hello) and still he didn't prepare by putting up mines or something. Baaaad.
Best getting both assims now, has a lot of speed zeals in his army. Forces his way into skyhigh's third. Takes down the troops. Kills the third. Stops harassment at his own third with zeals. Forces treaming into skyhigh's natural. GG!
savior is nothing compared to what he once was, and he's not exactly a "good" player right now compared to other zergs, but is it really that amazing when 1 progamer is able to get a win?
Best scouting clockwise; savior scouting diagonally. Second probe scout for Best. Savior hatch first, Best looks like cannon rush, but drone runs probe off. Nex, gate for Best. Probe denies third at bottom right nat. *ALMOST* kills the drone.
5th hatch making at bottom right third (not the nat; my bad). Scourge get a corsair in Best's main, but I think he saved them finding the second stargate. Queen's nest making.
Dt drop at the main. Another attack at the third. Sairs still owning everything. I think I heard a queen. Pool dead, main not mining. Spire dead. Best has taken 12. Starting to take 1's natural. Streaming units for Savior's third again.
When savior killed that sair in best base, best got lucky. It prevented savior from scouting the second stargate. And it was +1 sair rape from then on out. T_T
On January 30 2010 14:30 NeoOmega wrote: When savior killed that sair in best base, best got lucky. It prevented savior from scouting the second stargate. And it was +1 sair rape from then on out. T_T
No. He should've realized that the sair was from another Stargate.
This is just too much man...This is like Savior's first game in 2010?
This is the worst rape I have ever witnessed in my life. It's not hilarious, it is not so much fail that it is epic, this one is just plain painful and disturbing.
For once, a rape in SC game seems like rape in real life.
beautifully executed sair/dt by best. but man, poor savior looked so depressed. actually he had that sad face even before he got slaughtered.... he´s slowly fading away.
Staying in the game so long might get sAviOr a talking to from his coaches, and rightfully so. He embarrassed his team and himself. I don't know if he's ever looked so helpless.
Suffice to say I don't think we'll be seeing sAviOr again any time soon in Proleague.
My best guess is Savior made up his mind to do whatever build he was doing right after he scourged the sair in Best's base (the one where he missed seeing the second stargate by inches). By the time it became apparent he had made a mistake, he probably figured he had better odds with the build he'd already decided on than abandoning ship and countering the sair cloud.
Good plan sAviOr. Build NO UNITS UNTIL YOU GET A HIVE AND HAVE 10 CORSAIRS KILLING ALL YOUR OVIES. Not like a Hydra Den would have saved you or anything
On January 30 2010 14:46 MountainDewJunkie wrote: Who snuck this garbage in with Savior's "Main Achievements"? A 2-game tournament? Shameful.
It wasn't a tournament, it was a showmatch. And the biggest showmatch in BW history at that point. Seriously, it was a huge fucking deal when it was organized, and an important part of progaming history, since it showed that an event designed solely to pit one legend against another could be a huge success for the company.
It's not a Starleague or anything, but it's definitely worth a mention in the bio of the players.
omg Best almost sniped a templar with that 13 kill DT as well. Best's third is done as well, not mining. Best is suiciding 2 reavers into the main. DR for Movie kills 2 HT's.
huge battle, great starting storms for movie, but battle is pitched in a very small area that strangely reminds me of 300. best uses DT drop and takes movie's main nexus.
zealots streaming as reinforcements, movie in need of a change of pants.
On January 30 2010 14:56 StorkHwaiting wrote: Yeah Movie is such an S-class protoss!! He's gonna surpass TaekBang any day now!
I don't understand why you bring that up, he lets a DT get a bunch of kills you think stork and bisu have never done that?
Actually, no, I've never seen TaekBang lose their entire 3rd's probes to a single DT while there are no fights going on anywhere else on the map. If you can link me to a game where that happens, I'll retract my statement.
Movie gets absolutely trashed in the middle again. his raid on Best's fourth gets stonewalled by cannons as well. Best attacking all the bases with one shuttle, gets some probes at the third.
On January 30 2010 14:56 StorkHwaiting wrote: Yeah Movie is such an S-class protoss!! He's gonna surpass TaekBang any day now!
I don't understand why you bring that up, he lets a DT get a bunch of kills you think stork and bisu have never done that?
Actually, no, I've never seen TaekBang lose their entire 3rd's probes to a single DT while there are no fights going on anywhere else on the map. If you can link me to a game where that happens, I'll retract my statement.
also consider the DT kinda RAN THROUGH MOVIE'S MAIN AND NATURAL to get to the third base, Killed the probe at the third, then raped the transfer.... it was a horrible mistake.
On January 30 2010 14:56 StorkHwaiting wrote: Yeah Movie is such an S-class protoss!! He's gonna surpass TaekBang any day now!
I don't understand why you bring that up, he lets a DT get a bunch of kills you think stork and bisu have never done that?
Actually, no, I've never seen TaekBang lose their entire 3rd's probes to a single DT while there are no fights going on anywhere else on the map. If you can link me to a game where that happens, I'll retract my statement.
On January 30 2010 15:07 Lebesgue wrote: OK, Effort should win against Best and his terrible PvZ. But can he gets 3 kills for CJ to win. There is still Bisu lurking out there...
and probably he´d have to beat canata before, who is a master at dragging out games... so effort will (fingers crossed) be exhausted when (if) he finally faces bisu.
On January 30 2010 15:18 GTR wrote: guemchi and best may suck but they aren't b-team.
sincerely common sense.
I could see the argument for Guemchi, Woojin almost never sent him out in PL cause kwanro was better 4th option. Yeah he is 0-5 in normal PL setting lol
Effort with double expand while Best contained on 2 bases. a cloud of scourge to go with mutas and a LINE of zerglings.Best going to get run over at this rate
Hydra den was just a tease; back to all zerglings now. Pure lurker ling; da gets spotted for sure now; going after some canons; get's one of them. MAELSTROM ON A LURKER LOL but zerglings are raping everything.
Oh wow... Effort mang. Makes mutas, Best hides his sairs but Effort is just sooo quick, he snipes all of his HTs before Best comes in with his sairs, then has a perfect muta spread and only loses 1 muta. Then he follows this up with muta-scourge, hiding his scourge and luring Best's sairs. It doesn't work but it just goes to show how good effort is.
Here's to hoping EffOrt's ZvP woes are over. That aggressive ling/lurker play was much more his style, and his scourge weren't late for the first time in history. Here's to hoping he stops getting run over by sair/dt, and returns to his 75% ZvP form.
Sorry for being criticial, but some of the "recommended game" sections don't really explain if it is worth watching/what happened. For example, the "a la 3/3/07" most people wouldn't get.
Hyuk makes a ton of sense here- Judgment Day is a protoss graveyard, while Match Point is very ZvP balanced.
Hyuk took a ZvZ off EffOrt right after beating Jaedong,which spawned a ton of 'Hyuk bonjwa' comments until we saw Hyuk's ZvT and realized why he had a bad repuation. That was pretty much the last we ever heard from him.
On January 30 2010 15:38 deathgod6 wrote: Sorry for being criticial, but some of the "recommended game" sections don't really explain if it is worth watching/what happened. For example, the "a la 3/3/07" most people wouldn't get.
FPL really skews who you cheer for - as a fan, I hope for Fantasy to gain the skill he needs to do well and continue to the SKT terran line, but FPL...I hope he loses, and he did today.
Why is it that every time we go to Hyuk's face he looks so SAD. He's looks like he hates what he's doing! All the other progamers are neutral...or Jaedong's "KILL ALL" face.
Anyways, good work Hyuk! Still good at that one matchup I see!
On January 30 2010 15:55 Ecrilon wrote: Why is it that every time we go to Hyuk's face he looks so SAD. He's looks like he hates what he's doing! All the other progamers are neutral...or Jaedong's "KILL ALL" face.
Anyways, good work Hyuk! Still good at that one matchup I see!
On January 30 2010 15:55 Ecrilon wrote: Why is it that every time we go to Hyuk's face he looks so SAD. He's looks like he hates what he's doing! All the other progamers are neutral...or Jaedong's "KILL ALL" face.
Anyways, good work Hyuk! Still good at that one matchup I see!
Casy is worse imo. He has this pained expression on his face when he plays >.<
On January 30 2010 15:55 Ecrilon wrote: Why is it that every time we go to Hyuk's face he looks so SAD. He's looks like he hates what he's doing! All the other progamers are neutral...or Jaedong's "KILL ALL" face.
Anyways, good work Hyuk! Still good at that one matchup I see!
Casy is worse imo. He has this pained expression on his face when he plays >.<
On January 30 2010 15:59 JL13 wrote: depressing these past few matches =(. At least no pathetic and retarded all-kill.
I feel your pain. How is last year's WL winners doing so poorly now?
Iris, Kwanro, and Much got replaced?
Yeah. Now without Much (awesome build orders for sniping), Kwanro (Kwanro is actually good guys), and Iris still freefalling, CJ's depth just isn't what it used to be. Really, the only team I think they can definitely outplay in the depth department would be Oz (Jaedong + Hiya Oz), KT (debatable), Hite, and Ace (which isn't even a real team). This is especially apparent during Winner's League since teams like Woongjin Stars and SKT1 don't have to send out a sacrificial lamb anymore.
No kidding Kwanro's good...he's 5th in ELO ranking. EffOrt is 10th. I wonder why CJ gave up their best Zerg? Edit: Oh nevermind. EffOrt is historically better and more consistent. Kespa ranking says so.
I agree with the people saying that sAviOr doesn't looks like he is playing a lot lately. There is no way that dude is practicing all day every day. And I agree that we wont see much more of him, and we shouldn't untill he practices like everyone else has to. Lest he embarass the team, and himself like that again. Poor guy.
Savior has really fallen , and i used to bealive that at least his ZvP was still decent . Movie has been sucking after his OSL finals . Iris still hasn't fully recovered from his slump . Skyhigh and Effort alone can't win for CJ . Get you shit together guys if you wan't to make the play - offs .
On January 30 2010 16:37 baubo wrote: Wow, Effort's been sucking lately. Getting hyuked must be a new low.
Naw, hyuk at least can ZvZ. Effort's low already hit during + Show Spoiler +
week 1's loss to guemchi >.>
and maybe losing to TossGirl when he first debuted in GomTV or something.
Yeah, but there's something about hyuk where losing to him just seems wrong. The guy just has this aura of fail within him(even if he is quite competent).
On January 30 2010 19:41 SilverSkyLark wrote: wow, best didn't go 2 base arbs? learned from Flash eh? haha
Not really. He went 2-base arbs against FBH and promptly got rolled. Getting beat by Flash doesn't change you. But getting roflstomped by FBH as a protoss require some subsequent soul searching.
I'm so glad I went to sleep after I saw Effort dominate Best. Seeing Effort lose to Hyuk and consequently have CJ receive the final blow from Hyuk would have made me cry.
On January 30 2010 16:37 baubo wrote: Wow, Effort's been sucking lately. Getting hyuked must be a new low.
Naw, hyuk at least can ZvZ. Effort's low already hit during + Show Spoiler +
week 1's loss to guemchi >.>
and maybe losing to TossGirl when he first debuted in GomTV or something.
Yeah, but there's something about hyuk where losing to him just seems wrong. The guy just has this aura of fail within him(even if he is quite competent).
On January 30 2010 19:41 SilverSkyLark wrote: wow, best didn't go 2 base arbs? learned from Flash eh? haha
Not really. He went 2-base arbs against FBH and promptly got rolled. Getting beat by Flash doesn't change you. But getting roflstomped by FBH as a protoss require some subsequent soul searching.
It's probably from the "Fantasy, you should try to make yourself look good (instead of practicing starcraft" comment in an interview.
lol, whats the use of playing savior in winners league? in standard proleague format u can sacrifice him against better players but in winners league???
Poor Savior, even his ZvP made Best's PvZ look good. Too bad CJ lost Much to the military. Much in the CJ house would be a big boost to their lineup. Savior should retire before his legacy get ruined even further.
On February 02 2010 19:35 [X]Ken_D wrote: Poor Savior, even his ZvP made Best's PvZ look good. Too bad CJ lost Much to the military. Much in the CJ house would be a big boost to their lineup. Savior should retire before his legacy get ruined even further.
On February 02 2010 19:35 [X]Ken_D wrote: Poor Savior, even his ZvP made Best's PvZ look good. Too bad CJ lost Much to the military. Much in the CJ house would be a big boost to their lineup. Savior should retire before his legacy get ruined even further.