Bigfile MSL 2010 Round of 32 Group G
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should be close games. im expecting this and group H as the most neck and neck groups but probably zero and sea
cant wait for sea/great rematch lol
Group of Death? I like all the players... hard to predict. Hoping for Sea and ZerO
Sea and Zero are favorites to advance, but I wouldn't be surprised at any combination of the 4 making it through.
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
:< I wanted to make a picture. Grobyc I'm still making you a picture.
Also, thanks for making both threads and streaming. Are you even going to have time to watch the games?
Poll: Which Player will advance 2-0? Stats (22)
38%
Sea (15)
26%
Zero (11)
19%
Great (10)
17%
58 total votes
Your vote: Which Player will advance 2-0?
(Vote ): Great (Vote ): Sea (Vote ): Zero (Vote ): Stats
On July 15 2010 13:39 flamewheel wrote: :< I wanted to make a picture. Grobyc I'm still making you a picture.
yay :3
Stats gonna tear this group to shreds. Group of death? Heh, Group of Stats making poor progamers cry.
man this is gonna be such a sick sick group...i hope zero and stats goes through
If there's a group of death, then this is it.
Great is storng
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On July 15 2010 13:37 NovaTheFeared wrote: Sea and Zero are favorites to advance, but I wouldn't be surprised at any combination of the 4 making it through.
This is exactly how I feel. The existence of this group is unfortunate, I would've liked to see 3 or even all 4 of these guys in the Ro16.
Stats has this easily with his chin. 2-0 Stats 2-1 Sea Gogogo
Sea and Zero :D. They are the cutest in this group so they are obviously going to win :3 Going to be some great games though. T_T need sleep though.
On July 15 2010 15:05 Wik wrote: Stats has this easily with his chin. 2-0
Stats 2-1
Sea Gogogo
You cannot go wrong with the chin analogy haha.
AWESOME I thought this was last night. Now I can watch it live Sea Zero Sea Stats Zero
Sick flamewheel banner inc. hype hype hype~
Sea fighting!+ Show Spoiler + Just hoping The Tyrant didn't sent him into a TvZ slump with the other days match. :s
(OZ vs MBC)
Stats fighting! Not sure if I'm going to stay up for this though. I think with Great and Zero Stats is going to have a tough time
Poll: Who advances 2-1? Sea (5)
42%
ZerO (3)
25%
Stats (3)
25%
great (1)
8%
12 total votes
Your vote: Who advances 2-1?
(Vote ): ZerO (Vote ): Stats (Vote ): great (Vote ): Sea
MSL GROUP OF DEATH! STATS SEA BELIEVE IT.
Mystlord
United States 10264 Posts
*hoping ustream isn't totally gay*
EDIT: wtf i accidentally clicked "quote" instead of edit
appreciate the stream dislike ustream...it always stops in the middle bc of regional switch back to livestream? :D? EDIT: agree with Vasoline73 ^
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
On July 15 2010 15:41 Grobyc wrote: Sick flamewheel banner inc.
hype hype hype~
T_T didn't have enough time to do ZerO and great. Might work on it during the game...
On July 15 2010 16:55 thunddr wrote: appreciate the stream
dislike ustream...it always stops in the middle bc of regional
switch back to livestream? :D?
EDIT: agree with Vasoline73 ^
I agree, livestream > ustream, but any stream is amazing. Thanks mystlord
On July 15 2010 16:56 Vivi57 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 16:55 thunddr wrote: appreciate the stream
dislike ustream...it always stops in the middle bc of regional
switch back to livestream? :D?
EDIT: agree with Vasoline73 ^
I agree, livestream > ustream, but any stream is amazing. Thanks mystlord
Any stream that doesn't off-air in the middle is pretty nice. Appreciate the stream, but it's a shame every streamer seems to like ustream even though it fails a lot of us.
Mystlord
United States 10264 Posts
Eh you have grobyc's stream if you want livestream. I would go back to livestream, but it'd be all desynced on TL and what not...
hmm, ive never had any issues with ustream or mystlord's ustream
Go Sea and Stats!! yeaah!
great white (no pun intended) at 7oclock blue Sea (no pun intended again) at 11oclock
Set 1 begins:Sea at 11 oclockgreat at 7 oclock
Great making 12 hat and sending a scouting drone. (in the wrong direction)
Great certainly looking vulnerable
BEAUTIFUL sea doesn't lose a single unit
clutch probes right there.
Turrets are up just in time to stop the first 8-9 mutalisks.
Great expands to the bottom right corner, Sea content to fend off mutas
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Great tries the distract the front while sneaking around tactic, but fails. Loses like all his zerglings for nothing. GGreat just chilling and abusing the ridge over the nat now.
why isnt he picking off more scvs?
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Lurkers are out now, but Sea's still stuck in his base. Great doing a pretty good job of picking off stray SCVs and keeping Great in base now.
Beautiful irradiate, killing 4-5 mutalisks!
Irradiate nullifies mutas, Sea moves out nicely
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Sea lands an irradiate on the stack of mutas and pushes forward with a couple SCVs, a tank and a few control groups of MnM.
nice push from Sea! hope it will work!
awesome irradiate. Great fails to split for a long time and when he does, half his mutas go over the rines then great chases sv's down and dosen't get either (lives with ~20 hp).
now sea's sieging great's nat and great is getting ready for some sort of epic flank SEA'S RENFORCEMENTS PICK OFF THE FLANK and DEFILER MOUND NOT STARTED!
ohhh it looks like he forgot to build the defiler mound....
k its GG! well done sea!!
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Great tries to flank Sea, but Sea's reinforcements and tanks clean up pretty handily. Tanks and mnm just pounding at the natural now.
there's no way great can hold this off with his 1-2 minute delayed defiler mound gg.
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Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
GG from Great. Well done by Sea.
That was a hell of a brutal rolling.
Sea not impressed with that GG timing.
Great almost managing to break the contain with lurker sandwitch. 4 tanks, 2 vessels and mnm still remains. Great is doomed. GG.
Great game by Sea.
Weird flank strategy by Great. I assumed he was going to use that small force to cut off additional reinforcements... oh well, still 2 games left, you can do it Great!
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Zero vs Stats, two of my favourite players. Really.
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
This game should be a formality. Poor stats
I wonder if the stats clone is there today.
whoever wins, i hope they go ahead and beat that sea dork down
Do not underestimate Stats. Remember how he crushed Effort alá Bisu vs Savior a couple of weeks ago.
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Game 2 between Zero and Stats starts on Odd Eye 3 Zero as blue zerg at 5 Stats as white protoss at 11
Poll: Recommend great vs Sea? Yes. (14)
56%
No. (11)
44%
25 total votes
Your vote: Recommend great vs Sea?
(Vote ): Yes. (Vote ): No.
Nexus first for Stats, pool first for Zero. Hmmmmmmm...
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Wow.. the first cannon constructs just in time!
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Ooo, sair reaver from Stats
Stats has the worst scouting probe control ever lol.
This group sucks. Wait what? It sucks because there are too many players in it who deserve a shot at going further. Read as all the players in it are really potentially Ro16 worthy at the very least. ELO ratings are 6 (Sea), 9 (Zero), 19 (Stats), and 25 (Great). Sea, Stats and Great all made PR last month. Zero's only real weakness is ZvZ.
Not good for Stats. Might be hard to defend the 3d
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Anyways, lurkers coming for Zero now. Stats tried attacking third, killed some hydras and shit but backed off in the end with a lucky shuttle surviving with like minimal HP. Stats now looking to take a third.
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Rofl, Zero just got raped pretty badly in that engagement.
Stats fucking beasting wow
Holy shit Stats massive scarabs and storms.
WOW storms/reavers DESTROYS zero's army
STATS MICRO SO SICK! OMFG!
wonderful use of tech units by Stats
I love reaver templar play so sexy
pull it together man, i wanna see zero v sea :C
STATS NOW TAKING A 3rd. Zero cant do anything about it, he lost his hydra lurk army. Stats is ballin yo!
wow , those were some AWESOME storms and scarabs : O
mass mutas will do well against that archon
Zero adding mutas! picking of hts and reaver!
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Oh hay, mutas are out to snipe templars. Zero doesn't snipe templars, he snipes reavers.
yep, mutas kill a reaver, but not much else then he attacks with hydras and loses 7 to one storm
loving stats patience here, defends the muta switch well too
if stats hold this attack off, he is in a VERY good positon!
In spite of Zero losing that huge battle, he still managed to fully recover and continue posing a big threat. Superb macro or imbalance? I'd like to analyze the replay.
MASS HYDRAS PUSHING INTO STATS MAIN and O.o, that was post 4096
lol... hydras sneak into nat.
lol zero goes for a massive counter into stats natural, kills a reaver, but his army gets stuck in sim-city and he loses like 8 hydras to a storm the rest of his forces melt. wow what a pointless waste
what a sweet game and a great defense by Stats ! wow !
mutas come in to waste storms, but zero's army is still completely crushed meanwhile, stats comfortably has his 3rd (although he's seriously lacking probes)
holy shit, its so back and forth. excellent game so far.
That was a huge ninja hydra group lol
Stats playing like a baller
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
On July 15 2010 17:42 Vivi57 wrote: MASS HYDRAS PUSHING INTO STATS MAIN and O.o, that was post 4096
Is this post number special because it's a power of 2? Or is there some other hidden meaning :3
Zero haven't expanded yet. Not even Hive tech... damn.
Should have sniped 3rd imo instead of going into nat zero' s dead
I didnt see the first game , was it as good as this one ?
stats wastes 4-5 storms to fend off 10 hydras. zero still on mass hydra =/
He could've morph 2/3 hydras into lurkers blocking the protoss army and completely rape all the probes in nat and main...
that hydra sneak was backfiring so much
archons just slay muta cloud instantly
zero forgot how to micro =(
On July 15 2010 17:44 Sinedd wrote: I didnt see the first game , was it as good as this one ?
forgotten defiler mound >_< this is actually ending up being really close in battles. Although unless stats stays at his low probe count, he should be pulling ahead each army trade
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p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ZERO GGS STATS YOURE A MONSTER!!
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Man, Stats was raining storms all game. =D
Drone death and Stats wins. Stats own zone.
Storm on drones! ZerO gg's! =[
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
yep, stats rapes zero's 3rd and he gg's
sick play by stats sea is in trouble
an UBERSTORM into gg !!! :D damn , that was good
Stats holy crap really scary play
Wow Stats played a great game definitely deserved the win. While Zero just used the 'build a shitload of hydras' tactic.
Zero dissapointing me so much so many weak things this game..
Stats storms some drones right as zero ggs
gg, wow, Stats raped him.
what a game.. stat's micro is so clean
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On July 15 2010 17:46 Vasoline73 wrote: Stats holy crap really scary play
And yet Zero made it sooooo hard for him. No wonder Jaedong can't lose a ZvP to anyone but an inform Stork/Bisu
i guess thats what happens when you plan to do a five hatch hydra and forget about the rest of the game
Chin - the answer to 5 hatch Hydra.
Stats is fucking awesome, look at that motherfucking chin and that protoss play. One more roadbump in the inevitable MSL championship of Stats.
Stats's PvZ are so off the seat. low econ and gosu pushes.
Fuck this now Zero could get eliminated do to bad ZvZ . He really should have killed the third ....
On July 15 2010 17:47 Plexa wrote: And yet Zero made it sooooo hard for him. No wonder Jaedong can't lose a ZvP to anyone but an inform Stork/Bisu
I wouldnt be suprised if that play would give JD a run for his money :o
Poll: Recommend ZerO vs Stats? Yes. (45)
88%
No. (6)
12%
51 total votes
Your vote: Recommend ZerO vs Stats?
(Vote ): Yes. (Vote ): No.
Really hoping this MSL + Proleague Finals help Stats make the "leap" to becoming an elite Protoss player. He's on the border already but needs to string together a longer stretch of rock solid play mixed in with some big name wins.
hoping stats mauls sea and zero > great and then mauls sea 2x
On July 15 2010 17:25 Lann555 wrote: This game should be a formality. Poor stats
You were saying? :D Can't believe there are still people who underestimate Stats, he's so good. ^__^
If I had one word to describe Stats, it would be chin. But if I had two words it would be chin and awesome.
That was close... let's see if they meet again in the 5th match what will happen.
On July 15 2010 17:48 darktreb wrote: Really hoping this MSL + Proleague Finals help Stats make the "leap" to becoming an elite Protoss player. He's on the border already but needs to string together a longer stretch of rock solid play mixed in with some big name wins.
He smashed Zero, Effort and Jangbi, atleast. They arent, Lessangtaekbang, but anyways... Im scared of KT now, Violet played so sick too in his game.
Who was that guy who complained about Stats' PvZ? lol
On July 15 2010 17:47 Plexa wrote: And yet Zero made it sooooo hard for him. No wonder Jaedong can't lose a ZvP to anyone but an inform Stork/Bisu
yeah well , ZerO's micro in this game was nearly nonexistent , but still , some good play and tech units usage by Stats
On July 15 2010 17:48 Holgerius wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 17:25 Lann555 wrote: This game should be a formality. Poor stats
You were saying? :D
Can't believe there are still people who underestimate Stats, he's so good. ^__^
^^ STATS FUCK YEAH!
Excellent game! Zero should've expanded instead of running into Stat's natural. Risking that army when he had just lost that big battle in the middle of the map was a no no.
On July 15 2010 17:47 Plexa wrote: And yet Zero made it sooooo hard for him. No wonder Jaedong can't lose a ZvP to anyone but an inform Stork/Bisu
Yeah during the game I was thinking to myself how hard it is to kill off a Zerg turtling and massing hive units even when you are consistently winning the important engagements.
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okay so when did violet and stats get so damn good?
On July 15 2010 17:49 Sinedd wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 17:47 Plexa wrote: On July 15 2010 17:46 Vasoline73 wrote: Stats holy crap really scary play
And yet Zero made it sooooo hard for him. No wonder Jaedong can't lose a ZvP to anyone but an inform Stork/Bisu
yeah well , ZerO's micro in this game was nearly nonexistent , but still , some good play and tech units usage by Stats
Nonexistant? Someone should try to micro vs 3gas HT and a reaver. It isnt easy.
On July 15 2010 17:50 OneOther wrote: okay so when did violet and stats get so damn good?
Say hello to Proleague 2010. Stats and Violet are the best protoss combo in proleague and despite some silly losses they freaking own.
On July 15 2010 17:48 Holgerius wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 17:25 Lann555 wrote: This game should be a formality. Poor stats
You were saying? :D
Can't believe there are still people who underestimate Stats, he's so good. ^__^
Pretty impressive yes. Zero played subpar though IMHO and I'd still put my money on Zero in a rematc ^_^
On July 15 2010 17:50 OneOther wrote: okay so when did violet and stats get so damn good?
Allways had the potential. They just didnt elevate it to this before, lol. Stats and Violet is neo reach-ra so far omg :O
On July 15 2010 17:50 Vasoline73 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 17:47 Plexa wrote: On July 15 2010 17:46 Vasoline73 wrote: Stats holy crap really scary play
And yet Zero made it sooooo hard for him. No wonder Jaedong can't lose a ZvP to anyone but an inform Stork/Bisu
Yeah during the game I was thinking to myself how hard it is to kill off a Zerg turtling and massing hive units even when you are consistently winning the important engagements.
Yep had the templar snipes gone off it would have gone the other way easily even on equal bases
Zero beat him on moonglaive 1st season of the proleague, in another sick game. Dont fuck with the chintoss
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
SEX FOR WINNER'S GAME COMING UP.
On July 15 2010 17:55 flamewheel wrote: SEX FOR WINNER'S GAME COMING UP.
I know. I'm kind of a Zero fanboy, so I just chose to ignore that kind of evidence though
this is gonna be awesome at least it should be ...
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Winner of this group goes on to play Calm Second advancer goes on to play Bisu
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Oh, we're on Triathlon by the way. Stats at 8, Sea at 4
On July 15 2010 17:57 Roffles wrote: Winner of this group goes on to play Calm Second advancer goes on to play Bisu
So if stats wins 2-0 calm vs stats... Thats sexy as hell too Sea, Great or Zero vs Beesuit... all is orgasmic!
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
12 Nex from Stats. Sea with the supply barracks wall at the ramp. Mining gas for now.
Stats lost their last encounter in a rather sad way. But if he plays like he did vs Zero... Sea you later!
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Anyways, Sea taking the safe expo at back. Has a vulture out just chiling on the map. Stats is up to 2 gates right now, spinning range.
On July 15 2010 18:00 Iplaythings wrote: Sea you later!
You are just the worst kind of person.
carriers for stats !On July 15 2010 18:02 Shatter wrote: You are just the worst kind of person.
+ Show Spoiler +
Roffles
Pitcairn 19291 Posts
Ooo, 3 star for Stats. Carriers. =D
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
all these carrier games, this is beginning to look like nalra's twilight
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
Carriers! This is going to be sexy.
Carrier own zone incoming. Either that or Stats is going to die to Sea's tank push.
Mystlord
United States 10264 Posts
Sending this from my phone. My Internet is being fail soz
stats about to reveal the carriers by harassing 3 oclock
On July 15 2010 18:07 Mystlord wrote: Sending this from my phone. My Internet is being fail soz
whoa for a sec there i thought you meant you were streaming from your phone lol
Carrier games are always great I expect nothing less from this one GO !
Stats with a massive ground army.
Does that mean Sea's backdoor expo is doomed ? Sounds bad for him.
Sea is cooked. Didn't expect Stats to have a big ground force like that.
Chinterceptors tear through Sea's forces.
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:11 okum wrote: Chinterceptors tear through Sea's forces.
Loooooool never heard that one before. Sea is being dominated by Stats o.0
damn Sea I hoped youd go 2:0 ..
Nice play from Stats! He just owned Zero easily.... He's 0-5 against the Dong though
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On July 15 2010 18:12 flamewheel wrote: Loooooool never heard that one before.
Sea is being dominated by Stats o.0
You seem suprised. It seems like the only player at KT not doing well recently is Flash. ROFL
I was just thinking that it'd be smarter for Stats to cut carrier production and go for a greater ground army; now he as to deal with a shit ton of goliaths. EDIT: Never mind... it... didn't matter... >_>
nice and sexy carriers :D useful talent toi have
good job stats now, zero > great and zero > sea plz
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lol commentator just compared stats' carrier strategy to the netherlands in the world cup
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Why don't Terrans make Ghosts for Lockdown, like Ruby did -_-
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Sup, Stats 2-0's group of death. Some say Triatholon is TvP imbalanced, to that I respond everything is Stats imbalanced.
SEA GGS now hell rape zero or great. STATS IS IMBA !!
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
why doesnt anyone use cloaked wraiths or ghosts vs carriers anymore ... : ( makes me sad good game tho ! Stats is 2-0 ! :D
On July 15 2010 18:15 GTR wrote: lol commentator just compared stats' carrier strategy to the netherlands in the world cup
what was the comparison?
sea should have attacked the main a bit faster and not stayed at the natural so long.. + split his units at the expansion and attacked top as well... then he MIGHT have had a shot at it..
Statsssssss! 2-0 baby. Just do this in the PL finals and KT is unbeatable. That's our second player to 2-0 out of his MSL group .
YAYAYAYAYAYAY ! STATS HWAITING Stats gonna be winning this MSL, you heard it here first. First he is gonna smash Clam
Poll: Recommend winners game? Yes. (24)
75%
No. (8)
25%
32 total votes
Your vote: Recommend winners game?
(Vote ): Yes. (Vote ): No.
carriers are so gay -_- no love lost, sea
i really wish stats would change his nick though....stats is such a shitty handle
Flash has clearly passed on the KT Rolster throne to Chintoss. All hail!
how embarrassing for sea scouts the carriers doesn't build enough goliaths loses 30 tanks he's better than that
On July 15 2010 18:16 Vasoline73 wrote: Statsssssss! 2-0 baby. Just do this in the PL finals and KT is unbeatable. That's our second player to 2-0 out of his MSL group
.
and its the fourht to advance... fOrGG Stats Violet Flash KTFlash who?
I'm not surprised at all to see Stats stomp his way through this group. So good. ^__^
KT is 4 for 4 in players qualifying from groups. Fuck yes KT foursome.
On July 15 2010 18:18 baytripper wrote: how embarrassing for sea scouts the carriers doesn't build enough goliaths loses 30 tanks he's better than that
He scouted 1 stargate, not the carrier tech.
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
On July 15 2010 18:17 Iplaythings wrote: YAYAYAYAYAYAY !
STATS
HWAITING
Stats gonna be winning this MSL, you heard it here first.
First he is gonna smash Clam
Once he runs up against Jaedong his luck is out.
Nice, now if Zero can beat Great (50-50), we get to see his sick ZvT ^^
On July 15 2010 18:18 TwoToneTerran wrote: KT is 4 for 4 in players qualifying from groups. Fuck yes KT foursome.
yeah thats really good. Its just sad that flash and violet had to face in the ro16. also, this makes stats' losing to hydra more frustrating to me. TT
On July 15 2010 18:20 nbaker wrote: Nice, now if Zero can beat Great (50-50), we get to see his sick ZvT ^^
he's one of the better players at it, itd be such a crime to see him lose a zvz and watch great flounder again :C
On July 15 2010 18:20 iLoveKT wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:18 TwoToneTerran wrote: KT is 4 for 4 in players qualifying from groups. Fuck yes KT foursome.
yeah thats really good. Its just sad that flash and violet had to face in the ro16.
also, this makes stats' losing to hydra more frustrating to me. TT
Nah man Hydra is this season's By.Hero and Shine. All it means is that Stats is a truly great protoss now, for every truly great protoss gets oddly eliminated by a surprise zerg in the OSL.
Is it just me or is the msl intro video pretty cool? or maybe its because I really don't like the osl one
On July 15 2010 18:18 Iplaythings wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:18 baytripper wrote: how embarrassing for sea scouts the carriers doesn't build enough goliaths loses 30 tanks he's better than that
He scouted 1 stargate, not the carrier tech.
well he built like 8 goliaths before stats revealed them so i assume he wasn't preparing for arbiters it's a really good map for carriers too, that was my immediate thought when the stargate went down
someone uses this background music as their entrance in wwe, who is it? edge?
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
Great red 12 Zero yellow 4
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
looks like pool first for great, hatch for zero
Great 12 gas 11 pool (i think) Zero 12 hatch
What the hell? Why can't I hear the commentators?
why the creep colony? edit: from Great that is
On July 15 2010 18:27 Holgerius wrote: What the hell? Why can't I hear the commentators?
can you now?
On July 15 2010 18:30 JohnColtrane wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:27 Holgerius wrote: What the hell? Why can't I hear the commentators?
can you now?
Ya, I switched stream.
Ugh, passive ZvZ is just horrible to watch...
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
I love the way the commentators say queen.
And Zero has a queen, looks like we have Zero in crazy ZvZ mode rather than rubbish ZvZ mode
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On July 15 2010 18:35 Shatter wrote: I love the way the commentators say queen.
Agreed! I love the "kkkkkeen"
Even with queens it looks like Great is winning. Hydralisk den from great lmao lurkers incoming.
wow insane muta fight with no clear winner
Now great with a hydra den what is this
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
wtf crazy ZvZ that ensnare helped ?
great has another base.. :C
Here goes great with his crazy zvz antics!
Finally, great is putting down a hydralisk den, meaning we've finally moved past the "build a bunch of mutas" stage
Great has 3rd base up, looks like he's going to pull a big advantage
greats zvz games are always great TT
eeeeee I think we're headed toward another guardian muta vs lurker hydra
i want to ask both of them "r u 4 rela?"
Parasite on a hydra THEN A FUCKING AD OMGOMGOGMOG
Great has air upgrades advantage.. why deciding to make hydralisks? Pfft.
On July 15 2010 18:39 Megalisk wrote: Parasite on a hydra THEN A FUCKING AD OMGOMGOGMOG
ADBLOCKERRRRR
DOUBLE DEFILER MOUND FOR ZERO WAT
ZERO WITH 2 DEFILER MOUNDS WTF
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
i love this kind of ZvZ !!! craazzzzyyy :D
On July 15 2010 18:19 flamewheel wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:17 Iplaythings wrote: YAYAYAYAYAYAY !
STATS
HWAITING
Stats gonna be winning this MSL, you heard it here first.
First he is gonna smash Clam
Once he runs up against Jaedong his luck is out.
Yeah such was his Nate msl run (:
On July 15 2010 18:40 JohnColtrane wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:39 Megalisk wrote: Parasite on a hydra THEN A FUCKING AD OMGOMGOGMOG
ADBLOCKERRRRR
NUTRISYSTEM ISNT BLOCKED. FFFFFFUUUUUUU
faster plaguuuu + consume
get some defilers to support the hydras great =.=
haha loving this game and esp zero
now they both have 2 mounds
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
so.. which ones redskirt.
2 players, 4 defiler mounds
FREEAGLELAND 26780 Posts
Holy shit all the games of Group G have been awesome. I'm going to have a field day with next week's post.
It's so awesome that there's still something as un-figured-out as mid/lategame ZvZ in BW.
sick micro from zero and double mound from great too
Double defiler den standard in hive tech zvz?
I never realized just how much mutas own hydras...
crazy game, great had it till the hydra switch, now looks pretty even
On July 15 2010 18:41 Kenpachi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:40 JohnColtrane wrote: On July 15 2010 18:39 Megalisk wrote: Parasite on a hydra THEN A FUCKING AD OMGOMGOGMOG
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If great loses..Im going to be upset..he had air upgrade advantage and eco advantage after that battle
zvz is becoming such an amazing matchup
5 base zero 4 base great...
zero knows about 9 right?
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yar
who said zvz was boring ? :D
all kind of zerg units used only guardians , ultras and lurkers missing ! edit : ok i just saw a lurker xD guardians , ultras still missing the fuck ? that was a broodling xDDDD
This game is so silly. I love it.
Lurkermutahydrafilerling!
It would be awesome if a zvz would be as long as a tvt when it comes to battlecruisers :/
wow, lurkers from BOTH sides :D
lmao looking like mutalisks are being phased out right now.
Wow this ZvZ might beat Yellow vs Jaedong
... and I thought that TvT could be the only games to take 1 hour to play...
Lol it`s weird seing swarm defending against worker attack..But i love it.
This game seems pretty unreal. Just watched it in the background but both on 4 bases and hydras running around? Holy cow.
so bad mistake leting great take that expo ...
zvz would be my favourite mirror if all matches were like this
broodlinged filer? lol just expect it.
seems to be evolving into a TvT with lurks instead of tanks, great looking good if he can secure the other main
yellow mutas turn red
Enormous plague on all of Zero's mutas
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
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FFFFFFFFF PLAGUE THEN COMMERCIAL SCREW YOU I DON'T CARE ABOUT YOUR WEIGHT LOSS~
this game is soooooooo fking weird ... i dont even understand it anymore xD still love it tho
On July 15 2010 18:45 pR0gR4m3R wrote: ... and I thought that TvT could be the only games to take 1 hour to play...
Now all we're missing is 1-hour PvPs and then we'll all just end up hating mirror matchups even more!
I've been waiting for lurker ling defiler in zvz for 10 years now.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
On July 15 2010 18:46 JohnColtrane wrote: zvz would be my favourite mirror if all matches were like this
nah, you'd be bored out of your mind
Imagine now a mined out zvz..
Wow! Lings melt like a hot knife through butter against lurkers (as expected).
This game is sick. Broodlings wow
Zero Broodlings a defiler. Pretty entertaining game. Hard to believe they transitioned to the late game so early. 24 min in.
shit man do progamers do this from instinct or practice lategame ZvZ? lol
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
they're playing sunken/spore D... and DROP INCOMING
Zero attempting a drop?>!
On July 15 2010 18:47 Vivi57 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:46 JohnColtrane wrote: zvz would be my favourite mirror if all matches were like this
nah, you'd be bored out of your mind
no theres like way more action going on way better then everything
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DROP LIKE IN TVT I AM SEXIFIED
lol, the broodlings managed to get 2 kills
uh. swarm? when you're attacking with hydras? AND THE OTHER PERSON HAS LURKER LING? ...
awesome zvz wow so much action
LOLOL DOOM DROP IN ZVZ awesome. i love watching this. it's so awesome seeing progamers having to improvise rather than just use standard practiced strategies and reactions.
Great seems to have constantly outplayed Zero from the moment the game went non-standard. Stupid zerg heavy air is such a trap-tech
holy crap. lurkers SHRED lings.
HAHAHAHA ... ahahaha ... xDDD broodlings vs zerglings xD lurker battles parasite on hydra almost every unit used best ZvZ ever , and definitely the weirdest
On July 15 2010 18:50 Vivi57 wrote: holy crap. lurkers SHRED lings.
Yeah its worse than marines vs lurkers xD.
this is like TvT with lurkers instead of tanks fking crazy .. xD
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
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On July 15 2010 18:51 Shatter wrote: This is madness.
What the fuck somebody please make ultras. I will be very happy if that happens. EDIT: ULTRA CAVERN YAYAYAYAYAYAY
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how hasn't great won yet he has literally the whole map
On July 15 2010 18:51 Itachii wrote: is zero red?
Great is red.
fuck yes ULTRAS!!! only counter to lurks... besides mutas
cant you plague lurkers to reveal invis?
4 lurkers have never been more dominating in a ZvZ
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LOL this is so fucking epic im glad i stayed up
omg... Even as a trypophobe I can say that lurker vs lurker battles are the greatest.
The Past: Yellow, Julyzerg, Chojja, Savior, GGplay -- The Present: Luxury, Jae- The Future: -Dong, maGma, Zero, Effort, Hoejja, hyvaa, by.hero, calm, Action ---> SC2 (Ret?? Kolll Idra!! SEN, Cool, ZergBong, Leenock)
daaamn lurkers are so good vs zerg
Group of death showing us some quality entertainment today.
Looks like zero is screwed..great has so many more bases.
ULTRA DEN EDIT: I guess I noticed that late lol
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i really hope great smashes sea and advances. great is awesome
On July 15 2010 18:53 OneOther wrote: i really hope great smashes sea and advances. great is awesome
Does Zero even have the resources to produce a good number of ultras? EDIT: Wow... ultras for great as well.
ULTRAS THIS GAME IS COMPLETE
Ultras ... we're missing guardians only now wohoo !!! awesome
yea theyre doing this by instincts lol
Both players with cows out in the field lol
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
4/2 cows out for great! NONE YET FOR ZERO THIS ZVZ IS INSANE ANOTHER DROP!!!!!!!!!!!
haha droomdrops queens hydras lurkers ultras haha so funny. I think the players dont know what the hell is going on too :D :D
time for some ultralisk vs ultralisk
Open stream See hyrdas See ultras ZvZ WAT
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COWS HAVE ARRIVED ALD JALSKDJALDKF Drop again from ZerO! lol raped by sunks.
come now zero leave pls wtf
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OMGGG OMGG OH MY FUCKING GOD SCOURGE PICK OFF THE OVERLORDS CARRYING ULTRAS
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On July 15 2010 18:54 Shatter wrote: time for some ultralisk vs ultralisk
Never before seen this in a ZvZ before O_O
hahahaha insane zvz, but Great's got this
Plague all over the ultras rofl this game is awesome.
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ultra vs ultra, it's like a fastest game with nr20.
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great has 7 bases in a zvz
omfg. Now we only need Guardians. and this could be the first ZvZ to see every single Zerg unit AND spell in action!
haha, plague everywhere on ultras
... this is AWESOME !!!! xD
On July 15 2010 18:55 flamewheel wrote: Never before seen this in a ZvZ before O_O
Yellow vs Devil inthe prelims before iirc
Plague, Ultras, Cracklings, who could ask for more?
Defiler broodling snipes, Ultras... Now I've seen everything in ZvZ. O_O
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lol the defiler usage makes such a difference in zvz as well wow
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ZerO GGs. O_O WTF WHAT WAS THIS GAME. I MUST WATCH VOD AND WRITE ABOUT IT.
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I am a better person for having watched that
GG FROM ZERO AS ULTRALING FIGHT EACHOTER 31:36 GAME AN AWESOME ZVZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol zero GG's from being mined out. how often can you say that in a ZvZ?
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On July 15 2010 18:56 Kenpachi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:55 flamewheel wrote: On July 15 2010 18:54 Shatter wrote: time for some ultralisk vs ultralisk
Never before seen this in a ZvZ before O_O
Yellow vs Devil inthe prelims before iirc
i dont think ultras were used in that game. lurker, defiler, lings, queens and the usual iirc. ultras vs ultras seems new lol
EPICCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
wtf did we all just witness guys?
GG !!!!!!! definitely !!! daaamn that was good
GEEGEE!!!! Such a sick sick ZvZ. Hydras, lurkers, defilers, queens, cracklings, broodlings, darkswarm, plaguuu, nydus and finally ultras. Man Great seems to be really good late game ZvZ player. Isnt this the third or fourth time this year hes won a late game ZvZ???
On July 15 2010 18:56 OneOther wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:56 Kenpachi wrote: On July 15 2010 18:55 flamewheel wrote: On July 15 2010 18:54 Shatter wrote: time for some ultralisk vs ultralisk
Never before seen this in a ZvZ before O_O
Yellow vs Devil inthe prelims before iirc
i dont think ultras were used in that game. lurker, defiler, lings, queens and the usual iirc. ultras vs ultras seems new lol
I think Ultras were the main topic of it though. course, i may be wrong
bad map control from zero cost him the game he was doing soo good when he had the queens + mutas in mid game
zerooo I guess I can't complain too much since that was an awesome game, but I wanted him to advance so badly.
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I'm still confused as to what happened. At least Sea is going to rape through great again, making my banner come true.
before this game I thought, "I hope this is really short so that I can watch Sea and get to bed." now i'm eating my words. that was awesome.
haha. plagued cows vs plagued cows? what is this... awesome.
I REALLY REALLY look forward to the great/sea rematch.
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On July 15 2010 18:57 Kenpachi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:56 OneOther wrote: On July 15 2010 18:56 Kenpachi wrote: On July 15 2010 18:55 flamewheel wrote: On July 15 2010 18:54 Shatter wrote: time for some ultralisk vs ultralisk
Never before seen this in a ZvZ before O_O
Yellow vs Devil inthe prelims before iirc
i dont think ultras were used in that game. lurker, defiler, lings, queens and the usual iirc. ultras vs ultras seems new lol
I think Ultras were the main topic of it though. course, i may be wrong
oh maybe. i didn't read your post carefully. i thought you were talking about the yellow vs ggplay game.
On July 15 2010 18:58 iLoveKT wrote: Im a witness.
to awesomeness. And attractiveness
On July 15 2010 18:56 Plexa wrote: I am a better person for having watched that
I said this for Jaedong vs. Yellow, and I'm saying it for this: I am a better person for having watched that
Spectacular game! Great deserves an award for his ZvZ's. Fucking fuck yeah that was epic epic. :D It's so awesome to see pro's play Holgerius-style ZvZ.
awesome, now we get to watch sea rape great again :C at least zero wouldve made a game of it
On July 15 2010 18:58 matjlav wrote: before this game I thought, "I hope this is really short so that I can watch Sea and get to bed." now i'm eating my words. that was awesome.
hahah same too. So, the only unit/spell we didn't see was Guardians. seems like all upgrades for hydras, zerglings, ultras, queens, defilers were all researched and used. wow. that was ridiculous.
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Seriously still what the fuck is going on? Now I really want to see some wacked up ZvT for the final game...
hehehe nonstop MSL. too bad i might have to leave before the Group H finishes ;(
With Great leading the way ZvZ could evolve into such a cool MU. Imagine the day when this becomes standard. XD
On July 15 2010 19:02 Holgerius wrote: With Great leading the way ZvZ could evolve into such a cool MU. Imagine the day when this becomes standard. XD
Standard ZvZ progression becoming lings -> mutas -> muta/queen -> hydra/defiler > lurker/ling/defiler > ultra/ling/defiler? YES PLEASE
On July 15 2010 18:57 Kenpachi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:56 OneOther wrote: On July 15 2010 18:56 Kenpachi wrote: On July 15 2010 18:55 flamewheel wrote: On July 15 2010 18:54 Shatter wrote: time for some ultralisk vs ultralisk
Never before seen this in a ZvZ before O_O
Yellow vs Devil inthe prelims before iirc
i dont think ultras were used in that game. lurker, defiler, lings, queens and the usual iirc. ultras vs ultras seems new lol
I think Ultras were the main topic of it though. course, i may be wrong
According to tlpd, Devil never played vs Yellow. I included offline preliminaries ofc.http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/535_Devil/games/vs/Z What's funny is that I think there were cows involved in the Yellow vs Saint in MSL qualifier.
I wonder if it's cost effective to mass up like 18 queens and constantly broodling defilers ultras and lurkers like vessels irradiate in TvZ . If you broodling like 10 ultas you already gained what you loss in upgrades and massing queens .
Polaris Rhapsody. Sea Bottom Right Great Top Left
sea's puffy hair is so silly
On July 15 2010 19:03 matjlav wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:02 Holgerius wrote: With Great leading the way ZvZ could evolve into such a cool MU. Imagine the day when this becomes standard. XD
Standard ZvZ progression becoming lings -> mutas -> muta/queen -> hydra/defiler > lurker/ling/defiler > ultra/ling/defiler? YES PLEASE
should make a rule for 100% 12 hatches!
On July 15 2010 19:04 raga4ka wrote: I wonder if it's cost effective to mass up like 18 queens and constantly broodling defilers ultras and lurkers like vessels irradiate in TvZ .
scourges wouldnt approve
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
On July 15 2010 19:03 endy wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 18:57 Kenpachi wrote: On July 15 2010 18:56 OneOther wrote: On July 15 2010 18:56 Kenpachi wrote: On July 15 2010 18:55 flamewheel wrote: On July 15 2010 18:54 Shatter wrote: time for some ultralisk vs ultralisk
Never before seen this in a ZvZ before O_O
Yellow vs Devil inthe prelims before iirc
i dont think ultras were used in that game. lurker, defiler, lings, queens and the usual iirc. ultras vs ultras seems new lol
I think Ultras were the main topic of it though. course, i may be wrong
According to tlpd, Devil never played vs Yellow.
I included offline preliminaries ofc.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/535_Devil/games/vs/Z What's funny is that I think there were cows involved in the Yellow vs Saint in MSL qualifier.
oh then it was that. sorry for misleading >_>
On July 15 2010 19:05 Iplaythings wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:04 raga4ka wrote: I wonder if it's cost effective to mass up like 18 queens and constantly broodling defilers ultras and lurkers like vessels irradiate in TvZ .
scourges wouldnt approve
Well thats assuming you have hidras or mutas to protect the queens . Anyways i think queens need to be used more and not just in ZvZ .
On July 15 2010 19:03 matjlav wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:02 Holgerius wrote: With Great leading the way ZvZ could evolve into such a cool MU. Imagine the day when this becomes standard. XD
Standard ZvZ progression becoming lings -> mutas -> muta/queen -> hydra/defiler > lurker/ling/defiler > ultra/ling/defiler? YES PLEASE
going ultras doesnt make any sense since plague will reduce their hp by 240 hp or so? same as irradiate. imho late game zvz should be defensive swarm with lurker and positional play where u try to secure ur bases (like zero didnt at his 5th) and get a mix of hydra/lurk/def/queens to snipe defiler/scourge against guards on cliffs
Everybody still too dazzled to notice that the game started?
On July 15 2010 19:08 okum wrote: Everybody still too dazzled to notice that the game started?
both playing standard
2 Turrets for 11 mutas. nvm 4 5.. everyone dead? o_o
wow that was awesome oh come one guys
wow , awesome marine trap on mutas
On July 15 2010 19:11 Kenpachi wrote: everyone dead? o_o
Still recovering from last game.
On July 15 2010 19:08 Djin)ftw( wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:03 matjlav wrote: On July 15 2010 19:02 Holgerius wrote: With Great leading the way ZvZ could evolve into such a cool MU. Imagine the day when this becomes standard. XD
Standard ZvZ progression becoming lings -> mutas -> muta/queen -> hydra/defiler > lurker/ling/defiler > ultra/ling/defiler? YES PLEASE
going ultras doesnt make any sense since plague will reduce their hp by 240 hp or so? same as irradiate.
Ultras are still used ZvT... just sayin'. I would say that the greater issue would be spawn broodling, which is just instakill.On July 15 2010 19:08 Djin)ftw( wrote: imho late game zvz should be defensive swarm with lurker and positional play where u try to secure ur bases (like zero didnt at his 5th) and get a mix of hydra/lurk/def/queens to snipe defiler/scourge against guards on cliffs
Haha, well, I really have no idea. I just hope that it becomes something other than muta muta muta.
marines are a great counter for lurkers
Great sucks at controling his units ...
rape and ownage i see Sea in the next round lol
fail again by great. losing so much shit needlessly
wow, meanwhile, great is just getting raped. wtf great. I didn't want Sea to win this easily.
Sea is just minutes away from becoming a Dual Leager!
On July 15 2010 19:05 Kenpachi wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:03 endy wrote: On July 15 2010 18:57 Kenpachi wrote: On July 15 2010 18:56 OneOther wrote: On July 15 2010 18:56 Kenpachi wrote: On July 15 2010 18:55 flamewheel wrote: On July 15 2010 18:54 Shatter wrote: time for some ultralisk vs ultralisk
Never before seen this in a ZvZ before O_O
Yellow vs Devil inthe prelims before iirc
i dont think ultras were used in that game. lurker, defiler, lings, queens and the usual iirc. ultras vs ultras seems new lol
I think Ultras were the main topic of it though. course, i may be wrong
According to tlpd, Devil never played vs Yellow.
I included offline preliminaries ofc.
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/535_Devil/games/vs/Z What's funny is that I think there were cows involved in the Yellow vs Saint in MSL qualifier.
oh then it was that. sorry for misleading >_>
No problem, you took a Devil for a Saint. On July 15 2010 19:08 Djin)ftw( wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:03 matjlav wrote: On July 15 2010 19:02 Holgerius wrote: With Great leading the way ZvZ could evolve into such a cool MU. Imagine the day when this becomes standard. XD
Standard ZvZ progression becoming lings -> mutas -> muta/queen -> hydra/defiler > lurker/ling/defiler > ultra/ling/defiler? YES PLEASE
going ultras doesnt make any sense since plague will reduce their hp by 240 hp or so? same as irradiate.
imho late game zvz should be defensive swarm with lurker and positional play where u try to secure ur bases (like zero didnt at his 5th) and get a mix of hydra/lurk/def/queens to snipe defiler/scourge against guards on cliffs
I used to play fastest maps, and ZvZ almost reaches the late game stage everytime. In the end it's always hydra + lurk under swarm and the game becomes a campfest. Lurks under swarm without irradiate / storm / reaver is just invincible. Hydra under swarm rapes any air unit. Fastest map sucks though because with infinite ressources players will just build 10000 spores/sunks :| I would have liked to see nydus canals !
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
ooooooooooohhhh ... mines those filthy mines
LOL great seriously? same person from last game?
nvm just adding vults with mines to his army. Which will rape lurkerlingpretty badly.
On July 15 2010 19:18 Kenpachi wrote: Mech Transition.
the nail in the coffin
On July 15 2010 19:13 matjlav wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:08 Djin)ftw( wrote: On July 15 2010 19:03 matjlav wrote: On July 15 2010 19:02 Holgerius wrote: With Great leading the way ZvZ could evolve into such a cool MU. Imagine the day when this becomes standard. XD
Standard ZvZ progression becoming lings -> mutas -> muta/queen -> hydra/defiler > lurker/ling/defiler > ultra/ling/defiler? YES PLEASE
going ultras doesnt make any sense since plague will reduce their hp by 240 hp or so? same as irradiate.
Ultras are still used ZvT... just sayin'. I would say that the greater issue would be spawn broodling, which is just instakill.
yeah but queens cant consume. dont know if that's worth it also ultras in zvt/zvp are more tanks than dmg dealer to let the cracklings get to the rines/goons. I dont think that 12 plagued ultras with swarm will win against 12 lurkers with whatever u can get for 12*75 min/12*75 gas €: On July 15 2010 19:16 endy wrote: I used to play fastest maps, and ZvZ almost reaches the late game stage everytime. In the end it's always hydra + lurk under swarm and the game becomes a campfest. Lurks under swarm without irradiate / storm / reaver is just invincible. Hydra under swarm rapes any air unit. Fastest map sucks though because with infinite ressources players will just build 10000 spores/sunks :| I would have liked to see nydus canals !
yeah thought so, it will be much like tvt
ok he is going denchaninc, im a noob -_-
On July 15 2010 19:19 Iplaythings wrote: ok he is going denchaninc, im a noob -_-
whys it called denchanic?
well , this group was still uber entertaining to watch wonder if the next one gonna be the same hope so
On July 15 2010 19:19 Sinedd wrote: the nail in the coffin
I'm not so sure... Sea appears to have this one in the bag, but the imobility seems to be hurting him. Well, the next group starts in about 7-ish minutes... hurry up, Sea!. D:
this is so over ... just gg so we can celebrate and go watch another group ! damn
Sea should have finished it ages ago
Great is starting to amass bases. He has this!
sea needs to hurry up and win so I can go to sleep
He's playing it safe and I don't blame him
Summary of game: Great throws units away randomly for 20 minutes.
Sea playing it like it's TvP. Why are they dragging it out so much ugh ;/
read: great needs to hurry up and gg
I dont like Angie Everhart.
This game is soooo unnecessarily long.
Sea content with camping outside all of great's bases. Meh, hurry it up already. Maybe BC transition?
On July 15 2010 19:26 Grobyc wrote: Sea content with camping outside all of great's bases. Meh, hurry it up already. Maybe BC transition?
oh god no please ...
i've fallen asleep twice. HURRY UP AND END HIM SEA
On July 15 2010 19:25 okum wrote: Summary of game: Great throws units away randomly for 20 minutes.
precisely ... finally a gg ! Sea wins ! :D awesome the 2 players which i wanted to advance made it ! HELL YEAH !
p: stats, horang2, free, jangbi z: soulkey, zero, shine, hydra t: leta, hiya, sea
this is the guy that shouldve beaten sea 2-1 in the last b03 they had
finally, sea's going for the kill and gg zzz
yessssssssssssssssssssssss finally
I feel bad for great losing after winning the most epic ZvZ in the history of starcraft.
So stats vs calm and sea vs bisu in ro16
On July 15 2010 19:28 Sinedd wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:25 okum wrote: Summary of game: Sea kills greats third and then Great throws units away randomly for 20 minutes.
precisely ...
fix'd
Poor Great. It must suck to get eliminated from both leagues by the same guy. But still, yay Sea! He'd better finally get into the Ro8 of at least one league!
On July 15 2010 19:29 matjlav wrote: Poor Great.
It must suck to get eliminated from both leagues by the same guy.
But still, yay Sea! He'd better finally get into the Ro8 of at least one league!
I would laugh if he didnt.
where's the recommended pole? I want to vote no
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On July 15 2010 19:29 Shatter wrote: So stats vs calm and sea vs bisu in ro16
Damn Sea should be playing vs Calm. easier opponent. Sea vs Bisu I hope Sea wins :>
Nice to see Stats pulling out a 2-0 in this group. I hoped for it but did not expect it. Also good that Sea got out with a 2-1.
On July 15 2010 19:35 smileyyy wrote: Show nested quote + On July 15 2010 19:29 Shatter wrote: So stats vs calm and sea vs bisu in ro16
Damn Sea should be playing vs Calm. easier opponent.
Sea vs Bisu I hope Sea wins :>
me too... but I'm not confident.
gogo chintoss, you made me happy KT fan today ;]
Great is going to rage sooooooo hard when Sea drops both leagues in the Ro16.
Sea !!!!!!!!!!!! MSL & OSL Winner !!
so Bisu and Sea play each other? niceeee
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MY BANNER IS PROVEN CORRECT!
Just noticed the Sea-Marine has smiley faces beneath the shoulders. :D Did you draw everything all by yourself?
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Wasn't meant to be a smiley face but I'm horrible with drawing depth in detail >.< Yeah, using an online picture for reference. Still takes way too long to make each one though ahah.
Haha I thought that smiley wasn't put on purpose, but it still is hella cute. :3 And no you're not, the details are looking pretty fine to me. Brb checking angry Jae-Muta again (lol).
On July 15 2010 23:06 flamewheel wrote: MY BANNER IS PROVEN CORRECT!
Lol. I saw the banner and thought you changed it after. Sea = :D Zero = NOOOOO.
I just watch Zero vs great. No surprises from Zero, but now I LOVE GREAT AS WELL!!!! But WHY THE FUCK THEY BOTH ARE OUT
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On July 16 2010 00:02 Ursadon-n-Pals wrote: Lol. I saw the banner and thought you changed it after. Sea = :D Zero = NOOOOO.
The original plan was to have all four of them but I didn't have enough time, so I just used Sea and Stats (drew Stats first too o.0)... Prophetic banners for the win!
Wow the Zero vs Great game was epic. Make them play against YellOw (king of late game ZvZ), that would be siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick. Pus the fact that YellOw is more aggressive, so we wouldn't have to wait 10mins for transitions.
Ok, just saw the game. The ZvZ one, of course. I realize that I'm probably just gonna repeat stuff that's been said before, but: While this wasn't the first Hive tech long ZvZ, there was something truly unique here... Defiler and Lurker sniping with Spawn Broodlings, Ling drops, Lurker pushes, Lurker vs Lurker fights, plagued Queens. I don't think I've seen any of these tricks performed in a pro ZvZ game... Just... wow.
I just watched stats vs zero, that was a really really nice game, constant action the entire game, very happy
Way to go Stats! Will need to see these games. Too bad that Zero didn't qualify... I hope that Stats will manage to get at least to Ro8 As for Sea he will probably be eliminated next round living up to his legacy.
great vs zero one of the greatest games i ever seen and i've follow the korean sc/bw scene since 2002
Best game: Stats Zero. Most interesting: Great Zero. Watch the ZvZ if you want to see something new. But the first 12 minutes was boring as hell and there was some real lulls in the action. The game was over after Great shut down 2 fresh bases at once Zero just dragged it on for 5 minutes with ultras . Most interesting game in a while? Yes, most exciting game? No.
wow that was ridic. the two people who ppl didnt expect to advance :/ wow . wow
nvm youtubes are on Nevake's.
On July 16 2010 03:35 serenidite wrote: wow that was ridic. the two people who ppl didnt expect to advance :/ wow . wow
Why wouldn't people expect Stats to advance (he's really good)? Also, while Sea isn't historically good in individual leagues, he's always been great at TvZ so this was a good group for him. Every player in this group would've been a solid addition to the Ro16, I honestly don't think there could have been an upset in this group.
OMFG STATS!!! That was some gosu games you played, man! The game vs. Zero blew my friggin mind!
I feel bad for Great, I really like his games.