I don't want say any more.but,Why WCG held in a bitch Country?
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
I don't want say any more.but,Why WCG held in a bitch Country? | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On September 21 2004 23:59 linyu)wufan18 wrote: I don't want say any more.but,Why WCG held in a bitch Country? i know your english is bad, but i know you're able to rephrase that last sentence. | ||
Taguchi
Greece1575 Posts
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DJEtterStyle
United States2766 Posts
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amat
United States1788 Posts
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On September 22 2004 00:43 amat wrote: WCG China is to blame. It takes a while to get a visa approval for a person from China. Blame those bitches | ||
hasuwar
7365 Posts
On September 21 2004 23:59 linyu)wufan18 wrote: To try to expand the pro gaming destiny..too bad it won't work. I wish they would have just kept it in Korea too..the US got involved and they fucked everything up. So sad :|Pj tells me that There is very little chance for Chinese Player pass visa.maybe only 1 or 2 Chinese player go to SF this year. I don't want say any more.but,Why WCG held in a bitch Country? | ||
typhy
129 Posts
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amat
United States1788 Posts
And it's not like the rules sprang up over night. WCG China should have put more thought into applying for special case visas sooner than it did. | ||
Liquid`Ret
Netherlands4511 Posts
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JudasT
Spain2226 Posts
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Jim
Sweden1965 Posts
On September 22 2004 01:51 amat wrote: There are probably 800 million Chinese that would like to enter the USA on visa and never go home. The government of China is responsible for creating such conditions. And it's not like the rules sprang up over night. WCG China should have put more thought into applying for special case visas sooner than it did. This has never been a problem for any other country. Look at different sports event and you will see that USA is particulary protective eventhough other countries are equally attractive. | ||
Breeze
Bulgaria989 Posts
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Soun
Poland373 Posts
On September 22 2004 01:51 amat wrote: There are probably 800 million Chinese that would like to enter the USA on visa and never go home. The government of China is responsible for creating such conditions. And it's not like the rules sprang up over night. WCG China should have put more thought into applying for special case visas sooner than it did. Who would like to live in such a country? | ||
Sadist
United States6977 Posts
Obviously alot of people or we wouldnt need visa's | ||
Gryffindor_us
United States5605 Posts
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cYaN
Norway3322 Posts
no point in distributing blame anyways. either way usa turned out not to be the best choice. | ||
nullmind
1303 Posts
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Liquid`Nazgul
22426 Posts
On September 22 2004 00:43 amat wrote: WCG China is to blame. It takes a while to get a visa approval for a person from China. Blame those bitches should they have held WCG China 2004 3 years ago then? | ||
biologic.dante
Czech Republic54 Posts
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SpuniasauR
Australia1500 Posts
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pinbaLL
Sweden1711 Posts
On September 22 2004 05:55 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: should they have held WCG China 2004 3 years ago then? lol yeah | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36362 Posts
On September 22 2004 01:51 amat wrote: There are probably 800 million Chinese that would like to enter the USA on visa and never go home. The government of China is responsible for creating such conditions. And it's not like the rules sprang up over night. WCG China should have put more thought into applying for special case visas sooner than it did. amat, it's accepted that the US has a higher income per citizen and greater opportunities than China at the moment, but quality of life is definitely not measured by who gets more money. just because there are lots of people that would love to immigrate the US, it's mainly for economic aspects rather than the fact that the US is "better" for life. you are not someone to measure that. my parents are extremely successful in America but would trade all of that (if they didn't have me to support and raise) for living with their relatives back in China. please don't presume that all other countries' citizens are jealous of the US and that you have any sort of superiority just because you live in a rich country. also, WCG China can't apply for visas until they know who is going. | ||
ParasitJonte
Sweden1768 Posts
On September 22 2004 07:59 Hot_Bid wrote: amat, it's accepted that the US has a higher income per citizen and greater opportunities than China at the moment, but quality of life is definitely not measured by who gets more money. just because there are lots of people that would love to immigrate the US, it's mainly for economic aspects rather than the fact that the US is "better" for life. you are not someone to measure that. my parents are extremely successful in America but would trade all of that (if they didn't have me to support and raise) for living with their relatives back in China. please don't presume that all other countries' citizens are jealous of the US and that you have any sort of superiority just because you live in a rich country. also, WCG China can't apply for visas until they know who is going. He did not say that... He said that their are very many ppl who would like to enter USA and never leave, not for what reasons (fairly obvious these would not be because the ppl in USA are in any way "better" than those in china, just economical reasons, surley). Anyway, I don't think it is fair to for the 100000 time say: "it's americas fault!!!! bitch country!!" etc. I think their immigrant policies are very good, it is good that they are strict and they need to be for obvious reasons: it is the country of oppertunity like it or not, of course ppl wanna live there if they barley can survive in their own country and so on. In short, this problem should have been anticipated and solved before any problems even occured. | ||
FY-Forever
China346 Posts
On September 22 2004 08:38 ParasitJonte wrote: He did not say that... He said that their are very many ppl who would like to enter USA and never leave, not for what reasons (fairly obvious these would not be because the ppl in USA are in any way "better" than those in china, just economical reasons, surley). Anyway, I don't think it is fair to for the 100000 time say: "it's americas fault!!!! bitch country!!" etc. I think their immigrant policies are very good, it is good that they are strict and they need to be for obvious reasons: it is the country of oppertunity like it or not, of course ppl wanna live there if they barley can survive in their own country and so on. In short, this problem should have been anticipated and solved before any problems even occured. and i think there is also a little bit political reasons in it ? | ||
Muhweli
Finland5328 Posts
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Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 22 2004 01:51 amat wrote: There are probably 800 million Chinese that would like to enter the USA on visa and never go home. The government of China is responsible for creating such conditions. And it's not like the rules sprang up over night. WCG China should have put more thought into applying for special case visas sooner than it did. Eh? 800 million you say? -_- I doubt that | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 22 2004 05:42 nullmind wrote: Maybe Korea did it on purpose because China is trying to steal Korea's history! -,.-; The manchuria (old koguryo) thing? | ||
Frits
11782 Posts
Don't make up statistics based on nothing. It's confusing. | ||
fenixdown
Colombia320 Posts
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LumberJack
United States3355 Posts
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LumberJack
United States3355 Posts
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NuclearAntelope
United States1369 Posts
On September 22 2004 03:35 Breeze wrote: That's idiotic... and most of the guys who were denied a visa probably don't give a shit about visiting the USA, WCG just happens to be there and they are being treated like some imigrant wannabes. Go tell that to the people who approve visas, I don't think anyone here actually belives that the Chinese WCG participants want to stay here. | ||
Carnac
Germany / USA16648 Posts
On September 22 2004 12:38 Frits wrote: Yeah, there are like 1000 million ppl in china ? ...... So 4/5th of China wants to go to America? Don't make up statistics based on nothing. It's confusing. more like 1300 million | ||
TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
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amat
United States1788 Posts
On September 22 2004 02:57 Jim wrote: This has never been a problem for any other country. Look at different sports event and you will see that USA is particulary protective eventhough other countries are equally attractive. The EU has policies very similar to the USA, for many of the same reasons as the USA. Each year millions of people apply for visa applications to EU countries. Each year millions of applications are denied. I just googled visa application requirements to visit Germany. Here you will find a list of countries that Germany and the EU require have visas: http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/willkommen/einreisebestimmungen/liste_html Somewhere in here you will find details on the numbers of visa approvals and denials: http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/willkommen/einreisebestimmungen/visumangelegenheiten_html The USA and the EU do not have the infrastructure to support all the potential visitors. On September 22 2004 05:55 [pG]Liquid`Nazgul wrote: should they have held WCG China 2004 3 years ago then? The visa approval process in the USA for China applicants is like a lottery. Several million apply; (I think) only several hundred thousand are granted. There are a numerous ways the applicants can increase their odds of winning that lottery. The applicant's first priority is to convince the person reviewing the application that they should allow him visit over another. 1. Apply well in advanced (6-12 months) of your visit. This gives you the opportunity to re-file if you application is denied. The more times you try; the more likely you are to win a visa. 2. Find a sponsor family in the USA. Basically the sponsor family sends a letter to the consulate or embassy that says 'we will give the visitor housing and food and take them to their flight at the end of their stay in the USA'. 3. Find a corporate sponsor. A letter from a company like Samsung USA would be great. WCG and WCG USA could also send in letters to let the consulate or embassy know that the visitor will have accomodations, food, and travel taken care of during their stay here, if needed. 4. Ask the SF mayor's office for help. An email or fax from the mayor's office would do wonders for an applicant's application. The mayor's office is very friendly - give them a call. Even if all that were to happen (and it may have happened) the application may still be denied. Perhaps the applicant has a family member currently in the USA that has overstayed his visa. None of us know why the application was rejected. It's a shame it was. It's still not too late to try the above. | ||
88)WhyYouKickMyDog
United States608 Posts
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TreK
Sweden2089 Posts
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Asta
Germany3491 Posts
a) Number of short-stay visas (transit, visits, business, tourism) issued by German missions in 2002: 2.203.028 (2001: 2.349.724) (b) Number of visas issued by German missions for longer stays and stays intended for gain-ful employment in 2002: 394.423 (2001:399.975) (c) Number of visa applications refused by German missions in writing in 2002: 3.037.315 (2001: 3.232.626) (d) Total number of applications processed by German missions in 2001: 3,232,626 (2000: 3,051,054) the numbers are confusing and partially wrong i think (the number of refused visa equals the number of applications processed in 2001 T_T) but oviously there is no information about how many short-stay visas were denied (the total number is probably wrong and even if not it is only the total number for long-term visas). | ||
Petachu
Canada354 Posts
On September 22 2004 15:18 amat wrote: 1. Apply well in advanced (6-12 months) of your visit. This gives you the opportunity to re-file if you application is denied. The more times you try; the more likely you are to win a visa. come on... that is a very stupid suggestion for wcg players. They are supposed to know 6 ~ 12 months beforehand that they will qualify for WCG??? WCG should have thought of this and have something ready in case things like this happen. | ||
Physician
United States4146 Posts
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FeelTheMoment
89 Posts
On September 22 2004 15:18 amat wrote: 1. Apply well in advanced (6-12 months) of your visit. This gives you the opportunity to re-file if you application is denied. The more times you try; the more likely you are to win a visa. The visa you get in China for US will expire in 6 months. GG. If you got rejected 3 times, you can not apply in 6 months. GG. Any rejection before will also decrease your chance to get the visa. 2. ... 3. ... 4. ... Even if all that were to happen (and it may have happened) the application may still be denied. Perhaps the applicant has a family member currently in the USA that has overstayed his visa. Or just pure bad luck. Like the other 800 million ppl we have here. | ||
Liquid`Jinro
Sweden33719 Posts
On September 22 2004 14:16 Abyss_Bahamut wrote: I still strongly stand on my ' WCG should only be held in Korea ' ideal. Although you could argue that it helps spread awareness [ As I'm sure this WCG will (--v) ] I just don't see any country in the world [ Including Europe ] being able to host such a thing with organization. China? (Hosts TV games and highclass tournaments for war 3 and BW) | ||
Hoops
417 Posts
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haduken
Australia8267 Posts
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amat
United States1788 Posts
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amat
United States1788 Posts
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Eclipse.fX
Canada125 Posts
On September 22 2004 01:19 hasuwar wrote: To try to expand the pro gaming destiny..too bad it won't work. I wish they would have just kept it in Korea too..the US got involved and they fucked everything up. So sad :| USA getting involved in something and it ends up fucked up? You don't say... | ||
TLKiD
China1136 Posts
On September 22 2004 00:18 PuertoRican wrote: i know your english is bad, but i know you're able to rephrase that last sentence. rephase it would be hmmm, why is wcg being held in such a bitchy country ;O | ||
Jim
Sweden1965 Posts
Ps. I mean they are from China; who the fuck cares. And I get off early so I can get some more beers for the evening fotball game. | ||
Silvanel
Poland4601 Posts
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pooper-scooper
United States3108 Posts
PJ should apply for a sanctuary visa. | ||
Brown
Afghanistan367 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
so now usa is scurred yes scurred.. also keeping it in korea bleh they want to copy the olympics of course dont you guys get it and brown.....you shouldnt be talking if you were afghan and considered a terrorist i dont consider yah it but not all chinese want to be communist they just llive there | ||
KiLLme1st
United States1824 Posts
On September 23 2004 13:12 Brown wrote: The USA is just being extra careful. I wouldn't trust the Communist Chinese in my country and I don't blame them. You have got some serious fucking issues man... | ||
0_0
United States2090 Posts
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I_are_n00b
196 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36362 Posts
On September 23 2004 13:12 Brown wrote: The USA is just being extra careful. I wouldn't trust the Communist Chinese in my country and I don't blame them. Can we ban this guy already? Wasn't there this thread in the feedback section about banning him? | ||
The Light
United States86 Posts
On September 23 2004 17:29 Hot_Bid wrote: Can we ban this guy already? Wasn't there this thread in the feedback section about banning him? Ban him for saying he doesn't trust a country and it's people? Interestingly if this applied to people's comments about the usa you'd have to ban most of this forum. | ||
LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
On September 22 2004 01:51 amat wrote: There are probably 800 million Chinese that would like to enter the USA on visa and never go home. The government of China is responsible for creating such conditions. And it's not like the rules sprang up over night. WCG China should have put more thought into applying for special case visas sooner than it did. what? who the hell wanna go to usa ? not anybody i know =\ | ||
Powerpill
United States1692 Posts
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Drb
United States28 Posts
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hunterAS
United States408 Posts
as for the visa problem I can see why I mean common we are really scared someones gonna suicide bomb and blow up one of our buildings again be pretty sucky if someone blew up a power nuke power plant that would suck right? SO pj was denied because we fear he send nukes blowing in air fumes filling broken english slurring lalalalala power! into sky radiation killing people like rabid disease filled cans of old really old clam chowder | ||
PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On September 23 2004 19:10 Drb wrote: Usa is smart we dont want you slanty eyed gooks coming into our nice country so fuck off and live in poverty you smelly midgets hrm ;o | ||
FakeSteve[TPR]
Valhalla18444 Posts
On September 23 2004 19:10 Drb wrote: Usa is smart we dont want you slanty eyed gooks coming into our nice country so fuck off and live in poverty you smelly midgets whats with the sudden wave of dumb people coming to the website | ||
KiLLme1st
United States1824 Posts
On September 23 2004 19:10 Drb wrote: Usa is smart we dont want you slanty eyed gooks coming into our nice country so fuck off and live in poverty you smelly midgets Ya, this will ensure you a long stay here at TL.net. Might as well say bye now so, BUH BYE! | ||
Drb
United States28 Posts
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
On September 23 2004 20:32 Drb wrote: i would qoute all you dumb fucks but im way to lazy, get over it these gooks wont be coming to USA they wont get to see it ever b/c they are commy bastards fucking chinks end life asap im not saying what you said is right or that it's wrong. you just shouldnt post that shit. if i posted everything i wanted to say, i woulda lasted like 10 minutes at this site, maybe even less, depending on what rekruls schedule was that day. | ||
YiiRu
109 Posts
On September 23 2004 20:32 Drb wrote: i would qoute all you dumb fucks but im way to lazy, get over it these gooks wont be coming to USA they wont get to see it ever b/c they are commy bastards fucking chinks end life asap STFU, u fucking asshole! if u wanna fight, we fight! we are ready. ud better be prepared, WW3 is ahead! | ||
Drb
United States28 Posts
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
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YiiRu
109 Posts
On September 23 2004 20:47 Drb wrote: rofl, i could give two shits if i got banned for saying that, and yiiru go away and live in your third world poverty country you fucking bum, eat sewer rats asap chink fucking coward, ur childish posts will never make u any smarter, ok? | ||
Drb
United States28 Posts
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YiiRu
109 Posts
On September 23 2004 20:58 Drb wrote: yiiru, im prolly already smarter than you period i doubt the education system in your third world country could compare to anything in the USA u can do nothing, but talking shit. remember what i just told u " be prepared! ". ur mouth will be useless in a real war. | ||
Drb
United States28 Posts
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YiiRu
109 Posts
On September 23 2004 21:25 Drb wrote: Lol your some poor kid sending threats over the net like i give a shit... come bring sticks to gun fight you poor gook u started this, not me. u knew that, didnt u? | ||
LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
On September 23 2004 21:27 YiiRu wrote: u started this, not me. u knew that, didnt u? yiiru its worthless talking to this kid just wait till a mod bans him =\ | ||
proTOSS[GER]
858 Posts
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Hoops
417 Posts
Really sucks about PJ, I'd have bet on him making top 3 at wcg | ||
ChApFoU
France2980 Posts
On September 22 2004 15:18 amat wrote: The EU has policies very similar to the USA, for many of the same reasons as the USA. Each year millions of people apply for visa applications to EU countries. Each year millions of applications are denied. I just googled visa application requirements to visit Germany. Here you will find a list of countries that Germany and the EU require have visas: http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/willkommen/einreisebestimmungen/liste_html Somewhere in here you will find details on the numbers of visa approvals and denials: http://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/www/en/willkommen/einreisebestimmungen/visumangelegenheiten_html The USA and the EU do not have the infrastructure to support all the potential visitors. The visa approval process in the USA for China applicants is like a lottery. Several million apply; (I think) only several hundred thousand are granted. There are a numerous ways the applicants can increase their odds of winning that lottery. The applicant's first priority is to convince the person reviewing the application that they should allow him visit over another. 1. Apply well in advanced (6-12 months) of your visit. This gives you the opportunity to re-file if you application is denied. The more times you try; the more likely you are to win a visa. 2. Find a sponsor family in the USA. Basically the sponsor family sends a letter to the consulate or embassy that says 'we will give the visitor housing and food and take them to their flight at the end of their stay in the USA'. 3. Find a corporate sponsor. A letter from a company like Samsung USA would be great. WCG and WCG USA could also send in letters to let the consulate or embassy know that the visitor will have accomodations, food, and travel taken care of during their stay here, if needed. 4. Ask the SF mayor's office for help. An email or fax from the mayor's office would do wonders for an applicant's application. The mayor's office is very friendly - give them a call. Even if all that were to happen (and it may have happened) the application may still be denied. Perhaps the applicant has a family member currently in the USA that has overstayed his visa. None of us know why the application was rejected. It's a shame it was. It's still not too late to try the above. wow it's one of the first time i actually see you posting something intelligent and useful gratz ^^ you are on the way :D | ||
XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
On September 24 2004 12:35 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Bye Drb you go xal cyric! <3 | ||
Slaughter
United States20249 Posts
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OhThatDang
United States4685 Posts
anyways....so pj is certainly not going!? | ||
ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
On September 24 2004 12:35 XaI)CyRiC wrote: Bye Drb hahaha | ||
SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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linyu)wufan18
1198 Posts
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no.1
516 Posts
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
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Liquid`RaSZi
Netherlands2766 Posts
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niklasTHEfro
Sweden419 Posts
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
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XaI)CyRiC
United States4471 Posts
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
On September 25 2004 05:13 Liquid`RaSZi wrote: Americans are paranoid haha lol funny =D | ||
Petza_Gr
Greece299 Posts
neway imagine what would happen if they dont give visa to korean as well? :r that would be soooo funny and tragic on the same time.. can u imagine a repeat on the whole kor-wcg procedure? lol gl PJ with the visa~~ | ||
Cambium
United States16368 Posts
I don't think a Korean needs VISA to enter USA. | ||
LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On September 25 2004 20:56 LetMeBeWithYou wrote: The wcgs in korean never had problems right? they should kept it there Korean ROCKS for gaming i need to go to korean once at the least "Korea" =) | ||
MaTRiX[SiN]
Sweden1282 Posts
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Redcloak
United States530 Posts
I don't think a Korean needs VISA to enter USA. That's because you're Canadian. | ||
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