This is going to be a King of the Hill tournament. There will be a King who will get to sit on his throne and have the most ginormous e-penis ever. Then there will be the plebeians. These are everyone else. Challengers to the throne. Kingslayers if I may. The king will need to defend his title from these ingrates. If he loses, he is demoted to a plebeian and the victor takes his place on the royal throne.
The idea of the tourney is to be an ongoing tournament for casual yet semi-competitive players. There is currently no definite end. There will always be a king, and as long as there is at least one player who wishes to challenge his (or her) title, the games continue. Note: I am trying to accommodate all timezones so players need to be active in setting up games themselves and email their replays.
Be warned if you sign up I WILL be PMing you a hell of a lot to keep this ball rolling.
Hierarchy
King - the current winner. Kingslayer - the one who gets to challenge / play the king next. Plebeians - the queue of the rest of the challengers.
Format and Rules
C-/C/C+ rank players only. Will open it up to D+ if turn out is small.
There can only be one king (duh)
All players must play with the iccup account they signed up with.
Bo1 format. Bo1s are more volatile. I want the King to have no security.
Challengers will be arranged in a queue. First to sign up, first to challenge. FIFO
If Kingslayer wins, he is the new king. If he loses, he is added to the bottom of the queue.
Multiple races per matchup allowed, but must explicitly state each mu. (i.e. v, v, v v) For more clarification
Race changing is allowed if you are not within the top three on the challenger queue. State in the thread what your race change will be and I'll update the OP.
King is not allowed to change his race picks once he has taken the throne.
If a player disconnects during the first 3 minutes of a game he will be granted a re-match. Any problems arising will be revised case-by-case.
Observers are allowed, given both players agree. Also hosts for people having problems creating games.
Standard other Iccup rules (i.e. Anti-hack must be on, lantecy changer must be on, maps must come from latest version)
Kingslayer will have at least one week when it is their turn to schedule a game with the current King. Else next challenger gets to play. The sooner they can play, the better (no need to wait till the 7 days are up).
If king is inactive for two consecutive weeks he loses his hill and next two players get to fight for the throne
Cheese is allowed. BM play like mass hatchs in his natural or scout play is always encouraged.
No Excessive BM like name calling or legitimate harassment by any means. You will be dropped from the tourney if I see fit. (I am the dictator. And dictator >> king. muhahhaaha >:D )
Map: King gets to pick the map from the map pool.
King may not select the same map twice in a row.
Winner King sends replays to CRANKGOT@GMAIL.COM or uploads rep to repdepot.net and links me.
King MUST send replays otherwise I won't count the win. All replays will be made available (I'll upload it so you don't need to worry bout that).
If you don't like my rules, don't sign up ^.^
When Now. Always. Anytime. LETS GO!
Where Iccup. Channel op CRGOT
Where to watch Casters are very welcome! Don't have any yet but looking to find some haha. Muchos gracias in advance.
How to sign up:
Reply to this thread with:
Iccup: mmahirr Race: Rank: C+ (sigh i wish......) Other ids: sGs.Kal_rA Skype: mmahirr (or PM me if you don't want it public)
Have one main iccup id that you will play on so I can post that one in the op. If your going to post multiple akas to prove your rank please do it on a separate line so I don't have to play the guessing game.
Racepicking allowed but you must announce before the start of the tournament (i.e. v, v, v, v)
If you have not played in any previous C rank individual tournaments or the team leagues,you must send 2 replays of you playing with your iccup name tag (no shorter than 10 minutes each replay) and any other accounts you play/played with to CRANKGOT@GMAIL.COM or a pm to me.
Its a rolling tournament, so you can sign up and jump in anytime you want!
Prizes:
3 Kill streak: Pat on the back.
5 Kill streak: My respect.
10 Kill streak: All the bitches and glory.
15 Kill streak: Ultimate bragging rights.
20 Kill streak: $20 from my personal poor college kid fund.
If people wanna sponsor money or prizes for kill streaks let me know!
Name: Iplaythings Race: Racepicker: ZvT. ZvP, PvZ. If no clear ruling on what to do vs randoms I will just play zerg (read: please add some clear rules to racepicker v random, I dont want this silly debate AGAIN) Max rank C
Sending replays as I suppose I havent participated in any other league than CRTL, PM'ing you them
iCCup: Fox.Quirinus Race: v, v, v Rank: Replays: Already played in ASL and ASL2. Skype: quirinus42 Other AKAs: quirinus.cry, vSt.Quirinus This is awesome.
On December 02 2012 22:11 Iplaythings wrote: AH I READ SOMETHING NVM
Name: Iplaythings Race: Racepicker: ZvT. ZvP, PvZ. If no clear ruling on what to do vs randoms I will just play zerg (read: please add some clear rules to racepicker v random, I dont want this silly debate AGAIN) Max rank C
Sending replays as I suppose I havent participated in any other league than CRTL, PM'ing you them
Added, just treat it like another race and explicitly state if your doing multiple races:
Multiple races per matchup allowed, but must explicitly state each mu. (i.e. v, v, v v)
Edit: Also if both are racepicking, king gets to determine his race and kingslayer must oblige.
ie: player1 is (tvz), player2 is (tvz) player1 is king and chooses player2 must play player1 is king and chooses player2 must play either or
change in how to sign up: Reply to this thread with:
Iccup: mmahirr Race: Rank: C+ (sigh i wish......) Other ids: sGs.Kal_rA Skype: mmahirr (or PM me if you don't want it public)
Have one main iccup id that you will play on so I can post that one in the op. If your going to post multiple akas to prove your rank please do it on a separate line so I don't have to guess which one to put.
On December 03 2012 01:47 GGzerG wrote: Wow um... this is an interesting concept for a KOTH.... never seen anything like this before.
Runs a little slower than I anticipated (judging off d rank version 1-2 games a week) but it works. C rank players are more active / competitive I feel so it should move along faster.
On December 03 2012 04:06 thezanursic wrote: It would be very cool to see one of these for A/B to.
Baby steps but eventually yeah I will. I don't really know the A/B (or C even) community so its hard for me to determine if a players legit without someone vouching for them.
On December 02 2012 22:11 Iplaythings wrote: AH I READ SOMETHING NVM
Name: Iplaythings Race: Racepicker: ZvT. ZvP, PvZ. If no clear ruling on what to do vs randoms I will just play zerg (read: please add some clear rules to racepicker v random, I dont want this silly debate AGAIN) Max rank C
Sending replays as I suppose I havent participated in any other league than CRTL, PM'ing you them
Added, just treat it like another race and explicitly state if your doing multiple races:
Multiple races per matchup allowed, but must explicitly state each mu. (i.e. v, v, v v)
Edit: Also if both are racepicking, king gets to determine his race and kingslayer must oblige.
ie: player1 is (tvz), player2 is (tvz) player1 is king and chooses player2 must play player1 is king and chooses player2 must play either or
On December 02 2012 22:11 Iplaythings wrote: AH I READ SOMETHING NVM
Name: Iplaythings Race: Racepicker: ZvT. ZvP, PvZ. If no clear ruling on what to do vs randoms I will just play zerg (read: please add some clear rules to racepicker v random, I dont want this silly debate AGAIN) Max rank C
Sending replays as I suppose I havent participated in any other league than CRTL, PM'ing you them
Added, just treat it like another race and explicitly state if your doing multiple races:
Multiple races per matchup allowed, but must explicitly state each mu. (i.e. v, v, v v)
Edit: Also if both are racepicking, king gets to determine his race and kingslayer must oblige.
ie: player1 is (tvz), player2 is (tvz) player1 is king and chooses player2 must play player1 is king and chooses player2 must play either or
Allrighty, thanks
ok so for when we're challenging we have to have only 1 race per matchup but as king we can have multiple?
then z/p for me as king and all Z as challenger
Um no.. lol (tvz) = v v v v (1 race per matchup)
Just easier to write that way
You can't have different races as a challenger and king. You want me just to put you as random still?
On December 03 2012 01:47 GGzerG wrote: Wow um... this is an interesting concept for a KOTH.... never seen anything like this before.
Runs a little slower than I anticipated (judging off d rank version 1-2 games a week) but it works. C rank players are more active / competitive I feel so it should move along faster.
can't there be something like 2 kings yust to speed it up a bit?
Don't think the B or higher ranked players should play in this even with their offraces. With each level, you gain different insights into the game that carry over even if you're offracing and mechanics could be much better that lack of knowledge doesn't matter.
We already have GC and Nation Wars for gosus stomping chobos.
On December 04 2012 23:24 fold wrote: Don't think the B or higher ranked players should play in this even with their offraces. With each level, you gain different insights into the game that carry over even if you're offracing and mechanics could be much better that lack of knowledge doesn't matter.
We already have GC and Nation Wars for gosus stomping chobos.
tbh fold, your not the classic C skill player as well. At least that is my opinion.
On December 04 2012 23:24 fold wrote: Don't think the B or higher ranked players should play in this even with their offraces. With each level, you gain different insights into the game that carry over even if you're offracing and mechanics could be much better that lack of knowledge doesn't matter.
We already have GC and Nation Wars for gosus stomping chobos.
tbh fold, your not the classic C skill player as well. At least that is my opinion.
i beated him with my zvp when i didn't played that mu for a few weeks 2 time in a row on stream, and i am not that good no way he is B-, C+ maby not b-.
On December 04 2012 23:24 fold wrote: Don't think the B or higher ranked players should play in this even with their offraces. With each level, you gain different insights into the game that carry over even if you're offracing and mechanics could be much better that lack of knowledge doesn't matter.
We already have GC and Nation Wars for gosus stomping chobos.
tbh fold, your not the classic C skill player as well. At least that is my opinion.
i beated him with my zvp when i didn't played that mu for a few weeks 2 time in a row on stream, and i am not that good no way he is B-, C+ maby not b-.
When I last played him it was close to even in his favor
On December 05 2012 07:15 GGzerG wrote: How do we know when the games are being played or casted...? Do we just play vs the current king whenever? ...
Where's the "we" in this? You claimed to be B- in the thread tourny where people was organized after ranks
Shoo smurfs, we dont want ye
(you could just read thread more closely, would give you answer)
I know you are just terrified to lose to me again, but I am pretty sure that you have no say so whether I am allowed to play or not. So instead of talking just get ready to play. We should go right now.
On December 05 2012 07:15 GGzerG wrote: How do we know when the games are being played or casted...? Do we just play vs the current king whenever? ...
Where's the "we" in this? You claimed to be B- in the thread tourny where people was organized after ranks
Shoo smurfs, we dont want ye
(you could just read thread more closely, would give you answer)
I know you are just terrified to lose to me again, but I am pretty sure that you have no say so whether I am allowed to play or not. So instead of talking just get ready to play. We should go right now.
Find someone else to cheese, I don't have a pride to uphold and I do not want to play vs you.
On December 05 2012 08:58 ajmbek wrote: Iccup: sGs.bek Race: p vs all Rank: C Other ids: ajmbek.cry
lololol hi.
also, please no B- and higher players. even offrace it's funny because they can get to a high level very fast (and already have a lot of knowledge/mechanics/decisionmaking), unlike real C ranks.
On December 05 2012 07:15 GGzerG wrote: How do we know when the games are being played or casted...? Do we just play vs the current king whenever? ...
I'll pm you when its your turn. To accommodate timezones king and challenger set up games independently so there is no answer.. Vods will be posted in the op when available (and i'll make a vod thread) when I get pucca to cast them.
Your just going to have to follow the thread to see progress..
On December 04 2012 22:34 sabas123 wrote: can't there be something like 2 kings yust to speed it up a bit?
I've def considered it... but I'll keep it to 1 for now. Logistics could get waay too complicated. PMing people and updating ops for DRGOT and CRGOT is already time consuming. Anyways there can only be one true king
On December 05 2012 08:58 ajmbek wrote: Iccup: sGs.bek Race: p vs all Rank: C Other ids: ajmbek.cry
lololol hi.
also, please no B- and higher players. even offrace it's funny because they can get to a high level very fast (and already have a lot of knowledge/mechanics/decisionmaking), unlike real C ranks.
On December 05 2012 07:15 GGzerG wrote: How do we know when the games are being played or casted...? Do we just play vs the current king whenever? ...
Where's the "we" in this? You claimed to be B- in the thread tourny where people was organized after ranks
Shoo smurfs, we dont want ye
(you could just read thread more closely, would give you answer)
I know you are just terrified to lose to me again, but I am pretty sure that you have no say so whether I am allowed to play or not. So instead of talking just get ready to play. We should go right now.
besides you got B- with a verry good record, so if we let you in we basicly should add everybody aswell becouse "what does those few points matter anyway right?"
On December 05 2012 07:15 GGzerG wrote: How do we know when the games are being played or casted...? Do we just play vs the current king whenever? ...
Where's the "we" in this? You claimed to be B- in the thread tourny where people was organized after ranks
Shoo smurfs, we dont want ye
(you could just read thread more closely, would give you answer)
I know you are just terrified to lose to me again, but I am pretty sure that you have no say so whether I am allowed to play or not. So instead of talking just get ready to play. We should go right now.
besides you got B- with a verry good record, so if we let you in we basicly should add everybody aswell becouse "what does those few points matter anyway right?"
When did I get to B- with a very good record? ...........Please post proof of this
EDIT : Great idea with the skype group, my skype is name is LiNKTelecoM
EDIT 2 : By the way if you think that I was n.Die_telecom, that is not me .
Okay so I'm going to state this before any of the drama starts (cause drama like this always starts in tourney threads):
1. Since I'm not very familiar with players I do need your guys help to distinguish whos legit. 2. Given #1, I'm not TOO concerned about a couple C+/ barely B- players playing along. Its a bo1 so a competent C+ player should be able take a game off a B- player. I just dont want any consistent B- and above players dominating everyone. 3. I'm not running this league for myself (I'm only D+) so I got nothing much to gain from this. If your going to get all whiney about who can play and not please don't sign up. Deal with your personal drama inside the actual game or through PMs rather than on this thread.
On December 06 2012 08:24 Kal_rA wrote: Okay so I'm going to state this before any of the drama starts (cause drama like this always starts in tourney threads):
1. Since I'm not very familiar with players I do need your guys help to distinguish whos legit. 2. Given #1, I'm not TOO concerned about a couple C+/ barely B- players playing along. Its a bo1 so a competent C+ player should be able take a game off a B- player. I just dont want any consistent B- and above players dominating everyone. 3. I'm not running this league for myself (I'm only D+) so I got nothing much to gain from this. If your going to get all whiney about who can play and not please don't sign up. Deal with your personal drama inside the actual game or through PMs rather than on this thread.
tyty
the drama is not personal, if in rules is max c+ than it shoud be, and no higher ranked player woud play it is true that in a bo1 evrythink can happen, but there are not only strong c+ players, there are also c and c- that have no chanse to beat a b- player
As soon as Fold overthrown the King, he completely erased and changed the previous governing system. He wanted to change this world. He wanted a world without violence. He established new laws. His new laws would punish not only the one who commit the crimes but also those who share a relation with the individual. Ninazerg watched as a man was caught by a soldier for stealing bread. The man pled the solider to let him take the bread to his family who haven’t eaten for days. The solider knocked the bread off the man’s hand and proceed to step on the bread. It was later known that the man along with his family were taken to the capital city and punished with death sentence. Within months, the city crime rate went down to almost zero but at what cause. The streets that were once fill with children playing and laughing now void of them. Ninazerg thought to herself, this is not the world she yearned for and there were many that share her thoughts as well. Those people then began to plot a rebellion.
In order for the rebellion to be successful they would need someone with the power to take down Fold.
WandS would have been the obvious choice to be the one that will take down Fold, had Wands not given up the path of fighting and became a pacifist. Once upon a time, WandS was considered the strongest warrior in this region in a term of one against one capability but that was changed when he was gifted a pink apron by L_Master. L_Master urged WandS to try it on. WandS declined at first but due to L_Master’s persistence and the temptation of the beautiful pink apron, WandS finally succumbed to L_Master’s persistence and put the apron on. L_Master then suggested WandS to make some fried rice. As soon as WandS step into the kitchen, he felt this aura of happiness and overall content with his life; he gave up his past life. Plus, the fried rice he made were delicious and fill with happiness.
NoisE was the next candidate. Even though WandS was stronger than him in terms of strength, NoisE has a fighting chance against Fold. The majority of the group liked the idea of choosing NoisE to be the one. However, Ninazerg strongly opposed that idea. She argued that someone like NoisE who had lost all passion with this kingdom should not be someone for this kingdom to depend its hope on. It’s true that NoisE no longer wish to stay here, perhaps the only reason he’s still in this kingdom is because of Ninazerg. Even before the kingdom had fallen to Fold, NoisE had tried to persuade Ninazerg to move with him to the Kingdom of Airen, a kingdom that focuses more on collectivism rather than individualism. After the kingdom had fallen to Fold, NoisE reasoned with Ninazerg that this kingdom is dead. Ninazerg yelled at NoisE and gave him a speech on no matter what happened to this kingdom, she would always be here, guiding the kingdom. Despite the majority wished NoisE to take the position, NoisE stepped down. He realized Ninazerg was right, however, he will remain here because Ninazerg is still here.
L_Master volunteer for the position but was completely shut-down by the group. What a joke, the group said.
The next candidate in consideration was dRaW. dRaW was the obvious choice from the start to be the one to take down Fold but due to dRaW’s recent incompetency, he was heavily debated to be chosen for the position or not. dRaW was definitely stronger than Fold in every aspect. dRaW can take down hundreds of enemies charging at him without breaking a sweat. A feat not many can do. The thing that caused dRaW to be a heavily debate figure was because he can’t seem to win in a one against one situation, despite the fact he is stronger but is he really stronger than his opponent if he can’t beat the person in a one against one? In terms of skill level, his opponent would be D minus and he would be A minus but he would found himself at loss when his opponent outclass him in battle. Sometimes he wondered whether all the D minus opponents are really D minus or were they all smurfs. If the group chooses him, it would be suicidal.
Ninazerg was considered but due to Ninazerg being a female, her consideration was dropped. Ninazerg claimed she can beat Fold even without the Weapons which is absurd. One of the reason Fold was able to overthrown the previous king was because he holds the Sword Caliburn, one of the nine Weapons. No one in the group knows what abilities Caliburn holds and to fight Fold without wielding a Weapon of their own is foolish, moronic, and idiotic.
The group owns a replica, a copy, of the Bow Destin. A replica of the original Weapons are incompatible with females. The group decided to hold off the rebellion until they find a suitable person to wield their replica Bow Destin. Ninazerg, outrage at their decision, stated just how much longer their kingdom must continue to live at the shadows of Fold’s harsh rule. She argued that their army can overwhelm Fold along with his army and take control of the kingdom. The group agreed but without someone to challenge Fold for King’s Link, an ability that activates a kingdom’s shield. The ability can only gain by King’s passing to another King, or King killed by its challenger. A kingdom without King’s Link would be held captive against siege weapons. The Ninazerg affirms that this kingdom can defend itself against invasion force without King’s Link. The group ignored Ninazerg, concluding that she was irrational. Ninazerg concluded that this group and their army were incompetent, at the same time, she knew without the army support, she wouldn’t be able to make it to the capital city to challenge Fold.
Ninazerg decided to venture to Solan, the city that rumors to holds the Weapon Solstice. She can gain the army support if she owns a Weapon. And so she went before discussing with her friends, dRaW, NoisE, and L_Master. She left them a note.
While Ninazerg set out to find Weapon Solstice. L_Master became the spokesperson of the rebellion army because of his charisma, outgoing and spontaneous personality. While waiting for Ninazerg’s return, he slowly gathers support for their rebel army’s caused. NoisE has connection with the kingdom of Airen so he was the army’s main fundraiser. dRaW became the commander of the rebel army and is still trying to figure out who the smurfs were if there was any. WandS of course became the chef for the rebel army.
A year later, Ninazerg returned to the kingdom. Ninazerg looked at the kingdom from the top of the hills. The kingdom had not changed one bit, if anything, it got darker. It seems time had stopped for this kingdom long ago. Ninazerg met up with her friends and the rebel army. While Ninazerg was shocked to learn her friends had become the core of the rebel army, her friends were filled with happiness of her returned. Their reunion was short-live since Ninazerg was in a rush to save this kingdom as soon as possible. She quickly demanded dRaW’s army support since she now holds a Weapon to fight Fold. Overnight, the main army assembled and marched toward the capital city, Eria. As they marched toward Eria, defeating local soldiers and conquering cities, the locals joined their caused. More and more cities rebelled and marched toward the capital to meet up with the main rebel army. They were ready to fight with Fold’s army but they were nowhere in sight. The defending cities had zero resistance. It became more and more apparent as they approach the capital. This gave Ninazerg, L_Master, NoisE and dRaW an uneasy feeling. They send scouts to scout all sides to prevent ambush but Fold’s army is simply gone. dRaW assumed Fold was recalling his army and cities local militia back to the capital and to only defend the capital. dRaW ordered his army to be extremely cautious as they marched toward Eria.
Eria’s gate was within their sight. Eria, the city that was secluded from the outside world due to Fold’s reign, is now within their reach. Fold’s army was nowhere in sight. At the front entrance of the gate, there was only one person, Fold. Fold was standing there, waiting. dRaW gave a chuckle as he thought to himself does Fold think he can take on the whole army. The rebel army confused at the situation that were unfolding, what they thought was going be a gruesome day for the rebellion was ending up to be so different. dRaW send a messenger to demand Fold’s surrender and forfeit this Kingdom’s Link. Fold replied telling dRaW to bring forth their challenger to kill him to take this Kingdom’s Link. Or dRaW can use his army to overwhelm him and risk losing the Kingdom’s Link. Fold stated he does not want any blood to shed and if he loses to the challenger, he would gracefully forfeit everything.
Ninazerg ran toward Fold. Fold asked if she is the challenger. Ninazerg nodded. Then suddenly the area surrounding them both began to change. The air stopped. Ninazerg can still breathe but there is no air in their environment. She turned back but the rebel army was nowhere in sight. It seems like they had entered a different dimension. Fold said this is the King’s System for the King and his challenger. Before Ninazerg can react, Fold charged toward Ninazerg with Caliburn. Ninazerg pulled out his Weapon Excalibur, same class as Caliburn, Sword class. Fold surprised to see Excalibur in the hands of Ninazerg questioned how Ninazerg got her hands on it. Ninazerg claimed she founded it on the outskirts of Solan while looking for Weapon Solstice. Fold was puzzle as to why Excalibur chose a new master. Fold shook off the irregular thoughts and returned to focus on the battle.
Fold and Ninazerg trading blows back and forth, as each other tried to strike each other’s heart. Fold took a step back then a beam of red light form from the tips of Caliburn as Fold activated one of Caliburn’s ability, Burst. The ability would increase an individual fighting capability on their speed and strength by five percent as long as the individual is fighting within the one hundred meters long circle. Ninazerg noticed a giant red circle of length form around the ground. She looked up and saw Fold charging at her once again, she noticed Fold’s movements are faster, and harder to read. While deflecting Fold’s attacks, she slowly moves out of the circle. When she was almost out of the circle, Fold activated Burst V2, it extend the circle by seventy five meters while adding another five percent to his speed and strength. Ninazerg noticed the circle’s enlargement and tried to run out of the circle but Fold’s relentless strikes was pinning her down, restricting her movements. One thing she noticed was that Fold’s attack doesn’t aim toward critical spots like the head, the heart. It could be that Fold was trying to make her focus less on her critical spots then strike when she is least focus. Ninazerg continued to defect Fold’s attacks, unable to make an offense of her own, she can only defend. She knew she needs to get out of the circle in order to gain an advantage. The red circle extended another 50 meters as Fold activated Caliburn’s Burst V3. Ninazerg held Excalibur firmly while parried off any attempts made by Fold. Ninazerg breathed heavily realizing she could die at any moment. Her hands showed signs of tiredness as she continued to gasp for air. Despite all that, she held her ground against Fold’s advance while slowly moving backwards. Before she realized it, she was already out of the red circle. She looked at Fold who was in front of her seconds ago now gone, she blinked and the tip of Caliburn was inches away from her head and she looked at Fold as Fold looked at her. Ninazerg activated Excalibur’s ability, Flare but it was already too late. She then closed her eye to welcome her death. “Sorry.”
Ninazerg thought to herself if she is in the afterworld. There was no pain, nothing. She then opened her eyes. She saw the gate of Eria. Is this the afterworld? She heard loud cheering noise from her back as she turned around seeing soldiers running toward her. Stunned, shocked, she turned back facing gate of Eria. Fold was in front of her, inches away, kneeling. His mouth was coughing blood with Caliburn in front of him. Ninazerg wondered what happened. She was the one supposed to die. Fold with his remaining strength tried to call Caliburn once again. Caliburn float up and flied toward Fold. Ninazerg watched as Caliburn’s tip pierce through Fold’s heart. The impact knocked Fold off his kneeling position to lying down on the ground facing toward the sky.
Fold thought to himself if this okay as he looked at the sky. Ahh how long has it been since he had taken a good look at the sky he wondered. Was it always this blue? He saw a figure right above him. Ninazerg walked toward his body and looked at him from above. Why is this girl blocking his view of the sky? She should move away. He closed his eyes. He recalled his parents and him going to New Year festival, celebrating his birthday. He remembered his dad’s warm smile and his mom’s warm body as he sits on his mom’s lap sleeping. He remembered his parents killed by burglars. Despite his parents gave the burglar everything and pled them to take the money and leave them alone. He remembered his mom holding onto him in her arms and told him not to make a noise as her mom get knife at. He remembered his dad lying next to his mom as blood drips from her mom’s head onto his head but he could not scream, could not cry, and could not make a noise. He just stares at her mom’s eye. Fold wondered how long has it been since his parents died.
Fold opened his eyes. The figure was still there watching him. Fold looked at her eyes. There was a white eye patch on her right eye cover by her long brown silky hair but her left eye was bright blue. He can’t help but thinks how he had seen that eye before. He closed his eyes again.
It was a sunny afternoon. He went to sleep under the large tree at the orphanage. The sun lights were hitting him since the tree could not block all the sun. Before he realized it, he felt asleep. Fold woke up later. As he opened his eyes, he was met with one large teal eye along with one large light blue eye looking down at him and a girl patting on his hair. The girl realized he had woken up and frantically trying to find something to said, her words were incoherent. Fold ignored it because the sensation he was feeling was nostalgic as he lied on the girl’s lap. A feeling he had been long searching for was here. The warmth he once felt and lost, now here again. Before he realized it, there were tears flowing out of his eyes. The girl who had regained posture once again fluster because she wondered if it’s because she did something. Fold opened his watery eyes and told the girl to never leave him. The girl confused and flustered but musters enough strength to said “Okay”. Then Fold went back to sleep as the girl wipe his tears with her handkerchief. He woke up one last time, the girl was still there looking at him. She smiled at him as he smiled back. Then her teal right eye began to change color. His eyes locked onto her right eye, Fold tried to look away but he can’t. He sensed something is off. He tried to get up and move away but he can’t move. He was paralyzed. The girl lowered her head as her right eye locked onto Fold’s eyes. Fold began to feel fear as if the eye is piercing his soul, judging his past, present and future. He tried to yell for help but he seems to have loss control of his body. As the girl lowered her head closer and closer to Fold, Fold became more and more afraid.
The orphanage bell rang. The girl eye returned normal. The girl realized her head was extremely close to Fold’s head. Her face turned red, fluster and tried to find words to say.
Fold opened his eyes only to see smokes and the girl at the entrance of his room calling out to him, urging him to get up from his bed and run away from here. The orphanage was under attack. The girl took Fold by his hand and ran toward the back exit. The girl told Fold to run to the village to call for help as she went back inside the orphanage to save the other kids. When he had returned from the village with help, the orphanage was already burned to the ground. Fold tried to find the girl among the ruins. He found her among the pile of burn bodies along with her handkerchief.
Fold opened his eyes. The figure was still there. A gust of wind blew past the figure’s face, her hair flow to the direction of the wind along with the eye patch, revealing her large round teal eye. She quickly used her right hand to cover her right eye. It seems Ninazerg’s eye patch had sustained damage from the fight and now blown away by the wind. So you are alive, Fold thought to himself. Fold who had given up everything in this world now want to live more than ever. He had many stories he wished to tell Ninazerg but it was all too late. The activation of Caliburn’s Burst has drawbacks. The ability gave him extra speed and strength in exchange for his body. The cells in his body would speed up its deterioration and won’t be able to repair itself. The longer he extend the duration of burst, the more damage he took to his body. Fold no longer can control his body. He can’t reach into his pocket to show Ninazerg the handkerchief he kept all these years. Fold looked at Caliburn wondering why the sword who had chosen him as his master would betray him.
Ninazerg stared at Fold. Stunned and shocked at the same time, how did she won the fight, she wondered. Dumbfounded, just standing there, and looking at Fold. Rush of soldiers came running toward her, pushing her away from Fold, celebrating her victory over Fold. dRaW came and brought Ninazerg an extra eye patch for her to put on. Thanks, Ninazerg said. dRaW’s face showed extreme concern over Ninazerg’s right eye revealing. Ninazerg reassured dRaW, no worries, it’s okay.
The soldiers were celebrating, yelling profanities at each other, praising Ninazerg on her victory over Fold and becoming the Queen of this kingdom. L_Master, out of nowhere, screamed out SO I GUESS FOLD FOLDED HUH?????? HUH?? The soldiers got in state of shock over this loud voice and this lame pun. There was silence all around. Then dRaW put on his hat and yelled out YEAHHHHHHHHH. The soldiers looked at L_Master then at dRaW as if they were all thinking the same thing, synchronizing their movements, turning their heads at L_Master than at dRaW. The soldiers not sure how to respond just stood there in silence, mouth opened, continue to look back and forth at L_Master and dRaW. Suddenly Ninazerg gave a chuckle. Then other soldiers began to laugh. The soldiers were saved and went back to their joyous self. NoisE looked at them from a distance and slowly,probably, maybe, just maybe he’s starting to understand why did Ninazerg chose to stay at this kingdom instead of moving away with him.
The gate of Eria opened. Civilians and royal army ran toward Fold. The rebel army thought they would ran toward them with joy since they had just saved them and the kingdom from Fold’s rule. The civilians and royal army circled around Fold, some in tears while others just stood by him. Puzzled by the sight right in front of him, L_Master questioned them why are they grieving over Fold’s death. Most of them looked at L_Master then looked back at Fold. L_Master, dRaw and everyone else recognized those people. They were the people who were sentence to death. Ninazerg saw the man he saw a year ago who was punished for stealing bread. He was supposed to be dead. All the people that were supposed to die were alive and living in the capital city, Eria.
Ninazerg rushed over to Fold. She had questions she wanted Fold to answer. Before she even gets a chance to speak, a man from behind told her Fold never killed anyone that disobeys the law. He simply moves them and their family to the capital city. Then spread rumors of their death. Everything Fold did was a lie. He wanted a peaceful world. Not knowing how to respond, Ninazerg just stood there, stammering, tried to find her thoughts. Other soldiers began to join Ninazerg as they stand next to her, for they also wants to know what is going on. L_Master broke out there are other ways to achieve a peaceful world instead of instating fear into everyone. The world Fold created was indeed peaceful, however, at the same time everyone was afraid. This is not the world we yearned for. Fold was wrong.
Was he wrong? Fold wondered. Fold was happy he could see Ninazerg right in front of him once again. His face of happiness turned into horror as he saw a man he recognized standing next to Ninazerg. The man gave Fold a smile. Fold had killed this man once before. The man is pure evil and he must let Ninazerg know but all he could do was lying there. Fold who wanted to leave this world with no regrets now fill with regrets as he died.
A greenish light appeared at the palm on Ninazerg’s right hand. A triangular crest with the letter K in it appeared at her palm. It is the King’s Link.
The town center bell range. A solider report to Ninazerg, an army is approaching from the North.
Eywa and his army, are they friend or foe?
He quickly pushed open doorway, entered a room full of mystic objects. Globes, weapons and statues were everywhere, in the ground, hanging in the room and on the walls. A man is in the center of the room, staring at his purple globe, muttering yes…yes…
“Sir, scout have reported that Ninazerg had killed Fold and she has the Weapon Excalibur” He spoke. “Just as you predicated.” He added. “Should I assemble our group to retrieve Excalibur and Caliburn?”
“Ninazerg didn’t kill Fold. Fold killed himself.” The man exclaimed. “Fold wouldn’t lose to someone like that, he activate Burst V4 knowing that all the damage he suffer would stay permanent if he use it and he didn’t use the Regenerate ability of Caliburn.” He continued. “He wanted to die all this time ever since the moment I met him and now he got his wished.” “I’m just surprise why did Caliburn choose him as his master and then betray him at the last moment.” “Have you found the whereabouts of the Bow Destin yet?”
Meanwhile, Reclusive is shock and sad that Excalibur chose a thief as her new master
THE END!
I'll expand the story as Ninazerg continues to crush her opponents in this tourney. If she loses, then uhh this is the end Lol. So go help Ninazerg practice. There are many things to be add, just on top of my head. The right eye Ninazerg holds, and why does dRaW have eyepatches ready for Ninazerg, The Weapon system, the universe story take place in, etc. I want NoisE to enter this tourney so when he met with Ninazerg I can expand on the love story! This is the first time I posted my random fiction stories online other than in my stupid folder.
Hilarious read though! Pink aprons, Weapons, dRaW and endless smurfs, fried rice...has it all. Now if only we could get you to share these lovely stories and thoughts in the skype group, miss "I don't have anything to contribute"
L_Master became the spokesperson of the rebellion army because of his charisma, outgoing and spontaneous personality.
I'll take it, even with the previous cutting slight.
On December 06 2012 08:24 Kal_rA wrote: Okay so I'm going to state this before any of the drama starts (cause drama like this always starts in tourney threads):
1. Since I'm not very familiar with players I do need your guys help to distinguish whos legit. 2. Given #1, I'm not TOO concerned about a couple C+/ barely B- players playing along. Its a bo1 so a competent C+ player should be able take a game off a B- player. I just dont want any consistent B- and above players dominating everyone. 3. I'm not running this league for myself (I'm only D+) so I got nothing much to gain from this. If your going to get all whiney about who can play and not please don't sign up. Deal with your personal drama inside the actual game or through PMs rather than on this thread.
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
such little brain do you got huh???
if you are as smart as you want to present your self for the community you maby should consider that C/C+ can take games of a A- player these days, especialy considering they don't take those ranks seriusly.
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
Sorry posters like this make me rage hard.
Idiot are you, cause my post was answer to admin of this tour question. If you dont agree in my opinion about fold, thats ok, but i have right to say what im thinkin. I dont care if admin let him or not to play
mca64 it is a lot easier for a C / C+ rank protoss player to take a game off of a B- Terran or Zerg player than it is for a C / C+ rank Terran or Zerg player to take a game off of a B- Protoss, mca stop being such a conspiracy theorist in every thread lol
I am sorry, but we are speaking of the Fold that partepipated to first asl? The one for c players... I donk know how much stronger he became but i belive that if wands can play then surelly can fold too. It is not that important in this turny who can play and who can't beeing a bo1.
Just plz play games faster so i can be the king and rape you all
On December 12 2012 11:38 Kal_rA wrote: Sorry for being so inactive for this tourney.. Its finals week here and I've just been swamped. Lets continue this league though!
I'm leaving fold in. Judging on the previous comments dont underestimate him when you play him. Prepare builds if he takes throne.
radley vs Mewka next!
Edit also l_masters going to be the caster for this tourney so look forward to it
what? for me he is noob. Anyway i cant play with him - we have lag
On December 12 2012 11:38 Kal_rA wrote: Sorry for being so inactive for this tourney.. Its finals week here and I've just been swamped. Lets continue this league though!
I'm leaving fold in. Judging on the previous comments dont underestimate him when you play him. Prepare builds if he takes throne.
radley vs Mewka next!
Edit also l_masters going to be the caster for this tourney so look forward to it
what? for me he is noob. Anyway i cant play with him - we have lag
?? I don't get what your on about lol... Your not playing yet. You shouldn't even really worry about fold cause you need to beat six people straight to play him. Thats a tall order in a C league imo.
On December 12 2012 18:46 dr.shrinker wrote: Wish I could attend this - looks fun!
you can same as fold
PvP is my worst matchup by far, and we beat eachother from time to time - you cant determine his skill by beating me in YSL to be fair. I agree that folds skill level is higher than C, but I cant see any reason he should be banned from this.
ugh I'm taking out SouthPark for now. B+ zerg is a little too high even if your offracing. I'd be forced to let others offracing in too then and I don't want to play favorites.
I'll host a B tourney when I get the time so then the A people can be the only ones complaining next
As soon as Fold overthrown the King, he completely erased and changed the previous governing system. He wanted to change this world. He wanted a world without violence. He established new laws. His new laws would punish not only the one who commit the crimes but also those who share a relation with the individual. Ninazerg watched as a man was caught by a soldier for stealing bread. The man pled the solider to let him take the bread to his family who haven’t eaten for days. The solider knocked the bread off the man’s hand and proceed to step on the bread. It was later known that the man along with his family were taken to the capital city and punished with death sentence. Within months, the city crime rate went down to almost zero but at what cause. The streets that were once fill with children playing and laughing now void of them.
Ninazerg thought to herself, this is not the world she yearned for and there were many that share her thoughts as well. Those people then began to plot a rebellion.
In order for the rebellion to be successful they would need someone with the power to take down Fold.
WandS would have been the obvious choice to be the one that will take down Fold, had Wands not given up the path of fighting and became a pacifist. Once upon a time, WandS was considered the strongest warrior in this region in a term of one against one capability but that was changed when he was gifted a pink apron by L_Master. L_Master urged WandS to try it on. WandS declined at first but due to L_Master’s persistence and the temptation of the beautiful pink apron, WandS finally succumbed to L_Master’s persistence and put the apron on. L_Master then suggested WandS to make some fried rice. As soon as WandS step into the kitchen, he felt this aura of happiness and overall content with his life; he gave up his past life. Plus, the fried rice he made were delicious and fill with happiness.
NoisE was the next candidate. Even though WandS was stronger than him in terms of strength, NoisE has a fighting chance against Fold. The majority of the group liked the idea of choosing NoisE to be the one. However, Ninazerg strongly opposed that idea. She argued that someone like NoisE who had lost all passion with this kingdom should not be someone for this kingdom to depend its hope on. It’s true that NoisE no longer wish to stay here, perhaps the only reason he’s still in this kingdom is because of Ninazerg. Even before the kingdom had fallen to Fold, NoisE had tried to persuade Ninazerg to move with him to the Kingdom of Airen, a kingdom that focuses more on collectivism rather than individualism. After the kingdom had fallen to Fold, NoisE reasoned with Ninazerg that this kingdom is dead. Ninazerg yelled at NoisE and gave him a speech on no matter what happened to this kingdom, she would always be here, guiding the kingdom. Despite the majority wished NoisE to take the position, NoisE stepped down. He realized Ninazerg was right, however, he will remain here because Ninazerg is still here.
L_Master volunteer for the position but was completely shut-down by the group. What a joke, the group said. The next candidate in consideration was dRaW. dRaW was the obvious choice from the start to be the one to take down Fold but due to dRaW’s recent incompetency, he was heavily debated to be chosen for the position or not. dRaW was definitely stronger than Fold in every aspect. dRaW can take down hundreds of enemies charging at him without breaking a sweat. A feat not many can do. The thing that caused dRaW to be a heavily debate figure was because he can’t seem to win in a one against one situation, despite the fact he is stronger but is he really stronger than his opponent if he can’t beat the person in a one against one? In terms of skill level, his opponent would be D minus and he would be A minus but he would found himself at loss when his opponent outclass him in battle. Sometimes he wondered whether all the D minus opponents are really D minus or were they all smurfs. If the group chooses him, it would be suicidal.
Ninazerg was considered but due to Ninazerg being a female, her consideration was dropped. Ninazerg claimed she can beat Fold even without the Weapons which is absurd. One of the reason Fold was able to overthrown the previous king was because he holds the Sword Caliburn, one of the nine Weapons. No one in the group knows what abilities Caliburn holds and to fight Fold without wielding a Weapon of their own is foolish, moronic, and idiotic.
The group owns a replica, a copy, of the Bow Destin. A replica of the original Weapons are incompatible with females. The group decided to hold off the rebellion until they find a suitable person to wield their replica Bow Destin. Ninazerg, outrage at their decision, stated just how much longer their kingdom must continue to live at the shadows of Fold’s harsh rule. She argued that their army can overwhelm Fold along with his army and take control of the kingdom. The group agreed but without someone to challenge Fold for King’s Link, an ability that activates a kingdom’s shield. The ability can only gain by King’s passing to another King, or King killed by its challenger. A kingdom without King’s Link would be held captive against siege weapons. The Ninazerg affirms that this kingdom can defend itself against invasion force without King’s Link. The group ignored Ninazerg, concluding that she was irrational. Ninazerg concluded that this group and their army were incompetent, at the same time, she knew without the army support, she wouldn’t be able to make it to the capital city to challenge Fold.
Ninazerg decided to venture to Solan, the city that rumors to holds the Weapon Solstice. She can gain the army support if she owns a Weapon. And so she went before discussing with her friends, dRaW, NoisE, and L_Master. She left them a note.
While Ninazerg set out to find Weapon Solstice. L_Master became the spokesperson of the rebellion army because of his charisma, outgoing and spontaneous personality. While waiting for Ninazerg’s return, he slowly gathers support for their rebel army’s caused. NoisE has connection with the kingdom of Airen so he was the army’s main fundraiser. dRaW became the commander of the rebel army and is still trying to figure out who the smurfs were if there was any. WandS of course became the chef for the rebel army.
A year later, Ninazerg returned to the kingdom. Ninazerg looked at the kingdom from the top of the hills. The kingdom had not changed one bit, if anything, it got darker. It seems time had stopped for this kingdom long ago. Ninazerg met up with her friends and the rebel army. While Ninazerg was shocked to learn her friends had become the core of the rebel army, her friends were filled with happiness of her returned. Their reunion was short-live since Ninazerg was in a rush to save this kingdom as soon as possible. She quickly demanded dRaW’s army support since she now holds a Weapon to fight Fold. Overnight, the main army assembled and marched toward the capital city, Eria. As they marched toward Eria, defeating local soldiers and conquering cities, the locals joined their caused. More and more cities rebelled and marched toward the capital to meet up with the main rebel army. They were ready to fight with Fold’s army but they were nowhere in sight. The defending cities had zero resistance. It became more and more apparent as they approach the capital. This gave Ninazerg, L_Master, NoisE and dRaW an uneasy feeling. They send scouts to scout all sides to prevent ambush but Fold’s army is simply gone. dRaW assumed Fold was recalling his army and cities local militia back to the capital and to only defend the capital. dRaW ordered his army to be extremely cautious as they marched toward Eria.
Eria’s gate was within their sight. Eria, the city that was secluded from the outside world due to Fold’s reign, is now within their reach. Fold’s army was nowhere in sight. At the front entrance of the gate, there was only one person, Fold. Fold was standing there, waiting. dRaW gave a chuckle as he thought to himself does Fold think he can take on the whole army. The rebel army confused at the situation that were unfolding, what they thought was going be a gruesome day for the rebellion was ending up to be so different. dRaW send a messenger to demand Fold’s surrender and forfeit this Kingdom’s Link. Fold replied telling dRaW to bring forth their challenger to kill him to take this Kingdom’s Link. Or dRaW can use his army to overwhelm him and risk losing the Kingdom’s Link. Fold stated he does not want any blood to shed and if he loses to the challenger, he would gracefully forfeit everything.
Ninazerg ran toward Fold. Fold asked if she is the challenger. Ninazerg nodded. Then suddenly the area surrounding them both began to change. The air stopped. Ninazerg can still breathe but there is no air in their environment. She turned back but the rebel army was nowhere in sight. It seems like they had entered a different dimension. Fold said this is the King’s System for the King and his challenger. Before Ninazerg can react, Fold charged toward Ninazerg with Caliburn. Ninazerg pulled out his Weapon Excalibur, same class as Caliburn, Sword class. Fold surprised to see Excalibur in the hands of Ninazerg questioned how Ninazerg got her hands on it. Ninazerg claimed she founded it on the outskirts of Solan while looking for Weapon Solstice. Fold was puzzle as to why Excalibur chose a new master. Fold shook off the irregular thoughts and returned to focus on the battle.
Fold and Ninazerg trading blows back and forth, as each other tried to strike each other’s heart. Fold took a step back then a beam of red light form from the tips of Caliburn as Fold activated one of Caliburn’s ability, Burst. The ability would increase an individual fighting capability on their speed and strength by five percent as long as the individual is fighting within the one hundred meters long circle. Ninazerg noticed a giant red circle of length form around the ground. She looked up and saw Fold charging at her once again, she noticed Fold’s movements are faster, and harder to read. While deflecting Fold’s attacks, she slowly moves out of the circle. When she was almost out of the circle, Fold activated Burst V2, it extend the circle by seventy five meters while adding another five percent to his speed and strength. Ninazerg noticed the circle’s enlargement and tried to run out of the circle but Fold’s relentless strikes was pinning her down, restricting her movements. One thing she noticed was that Fold’s attack doesn’t aim toward critical spots like the head, the heart. It could be that Fold was trying to make her focus less on her critical spots then strike when she is least focus. Ninazerg continued to defect Fold’s attacks, unable to make an offense of her own, she can only defend. She knew she needs to get out of the circle in order to gain an advantage. The red circle extended another 50 meters as Fold activated Caliburn’s Burst V3. Ninazerg held Excalibur firmly while parried off any attempts made by Fold. Ninazerg breathed heavily realizing she could die at any moment. Her hands showed signs of tiredness as she continued to gasp for air. Despite all that, she held her ground against Fold’s advance while slowly moving backwards. Before she realized it, she was already out of the red circle. She looked at Fold who was in front of her seconds ago now gone, she blinked and the tip of Caliburn was inches away from her head and she looked at Fold as Fold looked at her. Ninazerg activated Excalibur’s ability, Flare but it was already too late. She then closed her eye to welcome her death. “Sorry.”
Ninazerg thought to herself if she is in the afterworld. There was no pain, nothing. She then opened her eyes. She saw the gate of Eria. Is this the afterworld? She heard loud cheering noise from her back as she turned around seeing soldiers running toward her. Stunned, shocked, she turned back facing gate of Eria. Fold was in front of her, inches away, kneeling. His mouth was coughing blood with Caliburn in front of him. Ninazerg wondered what happened. She was the one supposed to die. Fold with his remaining strength tried to call Caliburn once again. Caliburn float up and flied toward Fold. Ninazerg watched as Caliburn’s tip pierce through Fold’s heart. The impact knocked Fold off his kneeling position to lying down on the ground facing toward the sky.
Fold thought to himself if this okay as he looked at the sky. Ahh how long has it been since he had taken a good look at the sky he wondered. Was it always this blue? He saw a figure right above him. Ninazerg walked toward his body and looked at him from above. Why is this girl blocking his view of the sky? She should move away. He closed his eyes. He recalled his parents and him going to New Year festival, celebrating his birthday. He remembered his dad’s warm smile and his mom’s warm body as he sits on his mom’s lap sleeping. He remembered his parents killed by burglars. Despite his parents gave the burglar everything and pled them to take the money and leave them alone. He remembered his mom holding onto him in her arms and told him not to make a noise as her mom get knife at. He remembered his dad lying next to his mom as blood drips from her mom’s head onto his head but he could not scream, could not cry, and could not make a noise. He just stares at her mom’s eye. Fold wondered how long has it been since his parents died.
Fold opened his eyes. The figure was still there watching him. Fold looked at her eyes. There was a white eye patch on her right eye cover by her long brown silky hair but her left eye was bright blue. He can’t help but thinks how he had seen that eye before. He closed his eyes again.
It was a sunny afternoon. He went to sleep under the large tree at the orphanage. The sun lights were hitting him since the tree could not block all the sun. Before he realized it, he felt asleep. Fold woke up later. As he opened his eyes, he was met with one large teal eye along with one large light blue eye looking down at him and a girl patting on his hair. The girl realized he had woken up and frantically trying to find something to said, her words were incoherent. Fold ignored it because the sensation he was feeling was nostalgic as he lied on the girl’s lap. A feeling he had been long searching for was here. The warmth he once felt and lost, now here again. Before he realized it, there were tears flowing out of his eyes. The girl who had regained posture once again fluster because she wondered if it’s because she did something. Fold opened his watery eyes and told the girl to never leave him. The girl confused and flustered but musters enough strength to said “Okay”. Then Fold went back to sleep as the girl wipe his tears with her handkerchief. He woke up one last time, the girl was still there looking at him. She smiled at him as he smiled back. Then her right eye began to change color. His eyes locked onto her right eye, Fold tried to look away but he can’t. He sensed something is off. He tried to get up and move away but he can’t move. He was paralyzed. The girl lowered her head as her right eye locked onto Fold’s eyes. Fold began to feel fear as if the eye is piercing his soul, judging his past, present and future. He tried to yell for help but he seems to have loss control of his body. As the girl lowered her head closer and closer to Fold, Fold became more and more scare.
The orphanage bell rang. The girl eye returned normal. The girl realized her head was extremely close to Fold’s head. Her face turned red, fluster and tried to find words to say.
Fold opened his eyes only to see smokes and the girl at the entrance of his room calling out to him, urging him to get up from his bed and run away from here. The orphanage was under attack. The girl took Fold by his hand and ran toward the back exit. The girl told Fold to run to the village to call for help as she went back inside the orphanage to save the other kids. When he had returned from the village with help, the orphanage was already burned to the ground. Fold tried to find the girl among the ruins. He found her among the pile of burn bodies along with her handkerchief. Fold opened his eyes. The figure was still there. A gust of wind blew past the figure’s face, her hair flow to the direction of the wind along with the eye patch, revealing her large round teal eye. She quickly used her right hand to cover the right eye. It seem Ninazerg’s eye patch had sustain damage from the fight. So you are alive, Fold thought to himself.
I will finished this tomorrow. I have to go . I think there's around 3 more parahraph or hopefully.. It really wasn't suppose to be this long but somehow one thing lead to another. I didn't revise it or anything so don't be too harsh if you decide to judge it... ALL I WANTED TO WRITE WAS A HYPE FOR FOLD AND NINAZERG. TLDR: Go Fold, Go NinaZerg.
As soon as Fold overthrown the King, he completely erased and changed the previous governing system. He wanted to change this world. He wanted a world without violence. He established new laws. His new laws would punish not only the one who commit the crimes but also those who share a relation with the individual. Ninazerg watched as a man was caught by a soldier for stealing bread. The man pled the solider to let him take the bread to his family who haven’t eaten for days. The solider knocked the bread off the man’s hand and proceed to step on the bread. It was later known that the man along with his family were taken to the capital city and punished with death sentence. Within months, the city crime rate went down to almost zero but at what cause. The streets that were once fill with children playing and laughing now void of them.
Ninazerg thought to herself, this is not the world she yearned for and there were many that share her thoughts as well. Those people then began to plot a rebellion.
In order for the rebellion to be successful they would need someone with the power to take down Fold.
WandS would have been the obvious choice to be the one that will take down Fold, had Wands not given up the path of fighting and became a pacifist. Once upon a time, WandS was considered the strongest warrior in this region in a term of one against one capability but that was changed when he was gifted a pink apron by L_Master. L_Master urged WandS to try it on. WandS declined at first but due to L_Master’s persistence and the temptation of the beautiful pink apron, WandS finally succumbed to L_Master’s persistence and put the apron on. L_Master then suggested WandS to make some fried rice. As soon as WandS step into the kitchen, he felt this aura of happiness and overall content with his life; he gave up his past life. Plus, the fried rice he made were delicious and fill with happiness.
NoisE was the next candidate. Even though WandS was stronger than him in terms of strength, NoisE has a fighting chance against Fold. The majority of the group liked the idea of choosing NoisE to be the one. However, Ninazerg strongly opposed that idea. She argued that someone like NoisE who had lost all passion with this kingdom should not be someone for this kingdom to depend its hope on. It’s true that NoisE no longer wish to stay here, perhaps the only reason he’s still in this kingdom is because of Ninazerg. Even before the kingdom had fallen to Fold, NoisE had tried to persuade Ninazerg to move with him to the Kingdom of Airen, a kingdom that focuses more on collectivism rather than individualism. After the kingdom had fallen to Fold, NoisE reasoned with Ninazerg that this kingdom is dead. Ninazerg yelled at NoisE and gave him a speech on no matter what happened to this kingdom, she would always be here, guiding the kingdom. Despite the majority wished NoisE to take the position, NoisE stepped down. He realized Ninazerg was right, however, he will remain here because Ninazerg is still here.
L_Master volunteer for the position but was completely shut-down by the group. What a joke, the group said. The next candidate in consideration was dRaW. dRaW was the obvious choice from the start to be the one to take down Fold but due to dRaW’s recent incompetency, he was heavily debated to be chosen for the position or not. dRaW was definitely stronger than Fold in every aspect. dRaW can take down hundreds of enemies charging at him without breaking a sweat. A feat not many can do. The thing that caused dRaW to be a heavily debate figure was because he can’t seem to win in a one against one situation, despite the fact he is stronger but is he really stronger than his opponent if he can’t beat the person in a one against one? In terms of skill level, his opponent would be D minus and he would be A minus but he would found himself at loss when his opponent outclass him in battle. Sometimes he wondered whether all the D minus opponents are really D minus or were they all smurfs. If the group chooses him, it would be suicidal.
Ninazerg was considered but due to Ninazerg being a female, her consideration was dropped. Ninazerg claimed she can beat Fold even without the Weapons which is absurd. One of the reason Fold was able to overthrown the previous king was because he holds the Sword Caliburn, one of the nine Weapons. No one in the group knows what abilities Caliburn holds and to fight Fold without wielding a Weapon of their own is foolish, moronic, and idiotic.
The group owns a replica, a copy, of the Bow Destin. A replica of the original Weapons are incompatible with females. The group decided to hold off the rebellion until they find a suitable person to wield their replica Bow Destin. Ninazerg, outrage at their decision, stated just how much longer their kingdom must continue to live at the shadows of Fold’s harsh rule. She argued that their army can overwhelm Fold along with his army and take control of the kingdom. The group agreed but without someone to challenge Fold for King’s Link, an ability that activates a kingdom’s shield. The ability can only gain by King’s passing to another King, or King killed by its challenger. A kingdom without King’s Link would be held captive against siege weapons. The Ninazerg affirms that this kingdom can defend itself against invasion force without King’s Link. The group ignored Ninazerg, concluding that she was irrational. Ninazerg concluded that this group and their army were incompetent, at the same time, she knew without the army support, she wouldn’t be able to make it to the capital city to challenge Fold.
Ninazerg decided to venture to Solan, the city that rumors to holds the Weapon Solstice. She can gain the army support if she owns a Weapon. And so she went before discussing with her friends, dRaW, NoisE, and L_Master. She left them a note.
While Ninazerg set out to find Weapon Solstice. L_Master became the spokesperson of the rebellion army because of his charisma, outgoing and spontaneous personality. While waiting for Ninazerg’s return, he slowly gathers support for their rebel army’s caused. NoisE has connection with the kingdom of Airen so he was the army’s main fundraiser. dRaW became the commander of the rebel army and is still trying to figure out who the smurfs were if there was any. WandS of course became the chef for the rebel army.
A year later, Ninazerg returned to the kingdom. Ninazerg looked at the kingdom from the top of the hills. The kingdom had not changed one bit, if anything, it got darker. It seems time had stopped for this kingdom long ago. Ninazerg met up with her friends and the rebel army. While Ninazerg was shocked to learn her friends had become the core of the rebel army, her friends were filled with happiness of her returned. Their reunion was short-live since Ninazerg was in a rush to save this kingdom as soon as possible. She quickly demanded dRaW’s army support since she now holds a Weapon to fight Fold. Overnight, the main army assembled and marched toward the capital city, Eria. As they marched toward Eria, defeating local soldiers and conquering cities, the locals joined their caused. More and more cities rebelled and marched toward the capital to meet up with the main rebel army. They were ready to fight with Fold’s army but they were nowhere in sight. The defending cities had zero resistance. It became more and more apparent as they approach the capital. This gave Ninazerg, L_Master, NoisE and dRaW an uneasy feeling. They send scouts to scout all sides to prevent ambush but Fold’s army is simply gone. dRaW assumed Fold was recalling his army and cities local militia back to the capital and to only defend the capital. dRaW ordered his army to be extremely cautious as they marched toward Eria.
Eria’s gate was within their sight. Eria, the city that was secluded from the outside world due to Fold’s reign, is now within their reach. Fold’s army was nowhere in sight. At the front entrance of the gate, there was only one person, Fold. Fold was standing there, waiting. dRaW gave a chuckle as he thought to himself does Fold think he can take on the whole army. The rebel army confused at the situation that were unfolding, what they thought was going be a gruesome day for the rebellion was ending up to be so different. dRaW send a messenger to demand Fold’s surrender and forfeit this Kingdom’s Link. Fold replied telling dRaW to bring forth their challenger to kill him to take this Kingdom’s Link. Or dRaW can use his army to overwhelm him and risk losing the Kingdom’s Link. Fold stated he does not want any blood to shed and if he loses to the challenger, he would gracefully forfeit everything.
Ninazerg ran toward Fold. Fold asked if she is the challenger. Ninazerg nodded. Then suddenly the area surrounding them both began to change. The air stopped. Ninazerg can still breathe but there is no air in their environment. She turned back but the rebel army was nowhere in sight. It seems like they had entered a different dimension. Fold said this is the King’s System for the King and his challenger. Before Ninazerg can react, Fold charged toward Ninazerg with Caliburn. Ninazerg pulled out his Weapon Excalibur, same class as Caliburn, Sword class. Fold surprised to see Excalibur in the hands of Ninazerg questioned how Ninazerg got her hands on it. Ninazerg claimed she founded it on the outskirts of Solan while looking for Weapon Solstice. Fold was puzzle as to why Excalibur chose a new master. Fold shook off the irregular thoughts and returned to focus on the battle.
Fold and Ninazerg trading blows back and forth, as each other tried to strike each other’s heart. Fold took a step back then a beam of red light form from the tips of Caliburn as Fold activated one of Caliburn’s ability, Burst. The ability would increase an individual fighting capability on their speed and strength by five percent as long as the individual is fighting within the one hundred meters long circle. Ninazerg noticed a giant red circle of length form around the ground. She looked up and saw Fold charging at her once again, she noticed Fold’s movements are faster, and harder to read. While deflecting Fold’s attacks, she slowly moves out of the circle. When she was almost out of the circle, Fold activated Burst V2, it extend the circle by seventy five meters while adding another five percent to his speed and strength. Ninazerg noticed the circle’s enlargement and tried to run out of the circle but Fold’s relentless strikes was pinning her down, restricting her movements. One thing she noticed was that Fold’s attack doesn’t aim toward critical spots like the head, the heart. It could be that Fold was trying to make her focus less on her critical spots then strike when she is least focus. Ninazerg continued to defect Fold’s attacks, unable to make an offense of her own, she can only defend. She knew she needs to get out of the circle in order to gain an advantage. The red circle extended another 50 meters as Fold activated Caliburn’s Burst V3. Ninazerg held Excalibur firmly while parried off any attempts made by Fold. Ninazerg breathed heavily realizing she could die at any moment. Her hands showed signs of tiredness as she continued to gasp for air. Despite all that, she held her ground against Fold’s advance while slowly moving backwards. Before she realized it, she was already out of the red circle. She looked at Fold who was in front of her seconds ago now gone, she blinked and the tip of Caliburn was inches away from her head and she looked at Fold as Fold looked at her. Ninazerg activated Excalibur’s ability, Flare but it was already too late. She then closed her eye to welcome her death. “Sorry.”
Ninazerg thought to herself if she is in the afterworld. There was no pain, nothing. She then opened her eyes. She saw the gate of Eria. Is this the afterworld? She heard loud cheering noise from her back as she turned around seeing soldiers running toward her. Stunned, shocked, she turned back facing gate of Eria. Fold was in front of her, inches away, kneeling. His mouth was coughing blood with Caliburn in front of him. Ninazerg wondered what happened. She was the one supposed to die. Fold with his remaining strength tried to call Caliburn once again. Caliburn float up and flied toward Fold. Ninazerg watched as Caliburn’s tip pierce through Fold’s heart. The impact knocked Fold off his kneeling position to lying down on the ground facing toward the sky.
Fold thought to himself if this okay as he looked at the sky. Ahh how long has it been since he had taken a good look at the sky he wondered. Was it always this blue? He saw a figure right above him. Ninazerg walked toward his body and looked at him from above. Why is this girl blocking his view of the sky? She should move away. He closed his eyes. He recalled his parents and him going to New Year festival, celebrating his birthday. He remembered his dad’s warm smile and his mom’s warm body as he sits on his mom’s lap sleeping. He remembered his parents killed by burglars. Despite his parents gave the burglar everything and pled them to take the money and leave them alone. He remembered his mom holding onto him in her arms and told him not to make a noise as her mom get knife at. He remembered his dad lying next to his mom as blood drips from her mom’s head onto his head but he could not scream, could not cry, and could not make a noise. He just stares at her mom’s eye. Fold wondered how long has it been since his parents died.
Fold opened his eyes. The figure was still there watching him. Fold looked at her eyes. There was a white eye patch on her right eye cover by her long brown silky hair but her left eye was bright blue. He can’t help but thinks how he had seen that eye before. He closed his eyes again.
It was a sunny afternoon. He went to sleep under the large tree at the orphanage. The sun lights were hitting him since the tree could not block all the sun. Before he realized it, he felt asleep. Fold woke up later. As he opened his eyes, he was met with one large teal eye along with one large light blue eye looking down at him and a girl patting on his hair. The girl realized he had woken up and frantically trying to find something to said, her words were incoherent. Fold ignored it because the sensation he was feeling was nostalgic as he lied on the girl’s lap. A feeling he had been long searching for was here. The warmth he once felt and lost, now here again. Before he realized it, there were tears flowing out of his eyes. The girl who had regained posture once again fluster because she wondered if it’s because she did something. Fold opened his watery eyes and told the girl to never leave him. The girl confused and flustered but musters enough strength to said “Okay”. Then Fold went back to sleep as the girl wipe his tears with her handkerchief. He woke up one last time, the girl was still there looking at him. She smiled at him as he smiled back. Then her right eye began to change color. His eyes locked onto her right eye, Fold tried to look away but he can’t. He sensed something is off. He tried to get up and move away but he can’t move. He was paralyzed. The girl lowered her head as her right eye locked onto Fold’s eyes. Fold began to feel fear as if the eye is piercing his soul, judging his past, present and future. He tried to yell for help but he seems to have loss control of his body. As the girl lowered her head closer and closer to Fold, Fold became more and more scare.
The orphanage bell rang. The girl eye returned normal. The girl realized her head was extremely close to Fold’s head. Her face turned red, fluster and tried to find words to say.
Fold opened his eyes only to see smokes and the girl at the entrance of his room calling out to him, urging him to get up from his bed and run away from here. The orphanage was under attack. The girl took Fold by his hand and ran toward the back exit. The girl told Fold to run to the village to call for help as she went back inside the orphanage to save the other kids. When he had returned from the village with help, the orphanage was already burned to the ground. Fold tried to find the girl among the ruins. He found her among the pile of burn bodies along with her handkerchief. Fold opened his eyes. The figure was still there. A gust of wind blew past the figure’s face, her hair flow to the direction of the wind along with the eye patch, revealing her large round teal eye. She quickly used her right hand to cover the right eye. It seem Ninazerg’s eye patch had sustain damage from the fight. So you are alive, Fold thought to himself.
I will finished this tomorrow. I have to go . I think there's around 3 more parahraph or hopefully.. It really wasn't suppose to be this long but somehow one thing lead to another. I didn't revise it or anything so don't be too harsh if you decide to judge it... ALL I WANTED TO WRITE WAS A HYPE FOR FOLD AND NINAZERG. TLDR: Go Fold, Go NinaZerg.
On December 13 2012 19:53 Breach_hu wrote: Count me in.
ICCUP - dubstep Terran Max rank C+
oh shoot when I played you you were z/p C+ with all races!?
No. He won ysl vs fold who is C player, who won vs shrinker B-, but he cant play pvp. So when breach will be offracin using someone others logic here, he has the same rank with all races, cause he has the same mechanical skills and other shit. So breach = C with all races!
mca you are the most annoying and obnoxious poster I have come across so far in the BW forum's, and most of what you say makes no sense... you are not Sherlock Holmes so please relax with all the conspiracy theories.
I finished it! Sorry, I needed those extra time to study for Finals. Final is over! Winter break is here! Now I'm just waiting for Dell to send my laptop back to me so I can play my BroodWar! I bolded the part where you left off if you happen to read my wall of text.
Anyway. Fold will crush all those easily then he will meet Ninazerg! + Show Spoiler +
Don't mean to put pressure on you Fold but don't disappoint me!
On December 14 2012 11:41 GGzerG wrote: mca you are the most annoying and obnoxious poster I have come across so far in the BW forum's, and most of what you say makes no sense... you are not Sherlock Holmes so please relax with all the conspiracy theories.
On December 14 2012 11:41 GGzerG wrote: mca you are the most annoying and obnoxious poster I have come across so far in the BW forum's, and most of what you say makes no sense... you are not Sherlock Holmes so please relax with all the conspiracy theories.
Wow, coming from you...that's harsh bro.
If only we could meet in this to play each other, I'm sure you would enjoy it as much as I would. --
On December 14 2012 11:41 GGzerG wrote: mca you are the most annoying and obnoxious poster I have come across so far in the BW forum's, and most of what you say makes no sense... you are not Sherlock Holmes so please relax with all the conspiracy theories.
Wow, coming from you...that's harsh bro.
If only we could meet in this to play each other, I'm sure you would enjoy it as much as I would. --
I love your inability to bring two unrelated things together. It's comments like these that leave me wasting a good two minutes of my time trying to actually figure out what you're trying to say and then I realize that I'm just being silly giving you that kind of credibility.
On December 14 2012 11:41 GGzerG wrote: mca you are the most annoying and obnoxious poster I have come across so far in the BW forum's, and most of what you say makes no sense... you are not Sherlock Holmes so please relax with all the conspiracy theories.
Wow, coming from you...that's harsh bro.
If only we could meet in this to play each other, I'm sure you would enjoy it as much as I would. --
I love your inability to bring two unrelated things together. It's comments like these that leave me wasting a good two minutes of my time trying to actually figure out what you're trying to say and then I realize that I'm just being silly giving you that kind of credibility.
I didn't think it would actually take a rocket scientist to figure out that what I was hinting at, is that you talk a lot, but would never play me, but if I end up being king and then you get the chance to play me, I would enjoy playing but I don't think you would for obvious reasons.
On December 14 2012 16:19 Kal_rA wrote: Waiting on radley to play Mewka.. Hes being pretty unresponsive in PMs. Giving him till Sunday night Pacific to reply to me or hes auto de-throned.
LOL, you say that i'm unresponsive after 2 hours from sending me msg, come on... I have set up game with Mewka for today 19 CET. So if next challenger has time he can also come to play winner if he is in hurry.
On December 14 2012 11:41 GGzerG wrote: mca you are the most annoying and obnoxious poster I have come across so far in the BW forum's, and most of what you say makes no sense... you are not Sherlock Holmes so please relax with all the conspiracy theories.
On December 14 2012 11:41 GGzerG wrote: mca you are the most annoying and obnoxious poster I have come across so far in the BW forum's, and most of what you say makes no sense... you are not Sherlock Holmes so please relax with all the conspiracy theories.
Wow, coming from you...that's harsh bro.
If only we could meet in this to play each other, I'm sure you would enjoy it as much as I would. --
I love your inability to bring two unrelated things together. It's comments like these that leave me wasting a good two minutes of my time trying to actually figure out what you're trying to say and then I realize that I'm just being silly giving you that kind of credibility.
I didn't think it would actually take a rocket scientist to figure out that what I was hinting at, is that you talk a lot, but would never play me, but if I end up being king and then you get the chance to play me, I would enjoy playing but I don't think you would for obvious reasons.
Yeah, see that's my point. You string two unrelated things together and use your "skills" as a BW player to jest with other people, but it's pretty clear to me that it's the only thing you can reliably fall back on.
It's kind of like when you call someone a retard and then they say "Well, I'm good at juggling, hah!"
On December 12 2012 05:58 GGzerG wrote: mca64 it is a lot easier for a C / C+ rank protoss player to take a game off of a B- Terran or Zerg player than it is for a C / C+ rank Terran or Zerg player to take a game off of a B- Protoss, mca stop being such a conspiracy theorist in every thread lol
How can you sign up for this tourney given you've been higher than C+ (even tho you played a shitload of people who were 2-3 ranks lower to get there)?
Anyway - it's gonna be fun to see how it goes and who beats who!
Edit: quirinus - just saw you did the D ranks too... thanks so much again! Been meaning to get around to setting that up but just never seemed to have the time. Should be pretty easy to maintain now since you set both up so nicely
On December 14 2012 17:30 radley wrote:LOL, you say that i'm unresponsive after 2 hours from sending me msg, come on... I have set up game with Mewka for today 19 CET. So if next challenger has time he can also come to play winner if he is in hurry.
On December 12 2012 05:58 GGzerG wrote: mca64 it is a lot easier for a C / C+ rank protoss player to take a game off of a B- Terran or Zerg player than it is for a C / C+ rank Terran or Zerg player to take a game off of a B- Protoss, mca stop being such a conspiracy theorist in every thread lol
How can you sign up for this tourney given you've been higher than C+ (even tho you played a shitload of people who were 2-3 ranks lower to get there)?
Anyway - it's gonna be fun to see how it goes and who beats who!
Don't post this kind of trash accusations unless you have proof of me doing this recently
On December 12 2012 05:58 GGzerG wrote: mca64 it is a lot easier for a C / C+ rank protoss player to take a game off of a B- Terran or Zerg player than it is for a C / C+ rank Terran or Zerg player to take a game off of a B- Protoss, mca stop being such a conspiracy theorist in every thread lol
How can you sign up for this tourney given you've been higher than C+ (even tho you played a shitload of people who were 2-3 ranks lower to get there)?
Anyway - it's gonna be fun to see how it goes and who beats who!
Don't post this kind of trash accusations unless you have proof of me doing this recently
EDIT : what do you mean do my worst kal_ra lol
I never screenshot matchlists on ICCUP, so unfortunately I don't have them. I know what I saw, and I don't see the reason for you to join this tourney on false false premises as this is a really good initiative from Kal_rA. No need to go ballistic over PM either.
You didn't see me ever above C+ in the last like 3 years because it hasn't happened, fortunately for me I am not the person you think I am, which is n.Die_Telecom, I know because I also saw him on iCCup as well with B- I believe, you shouldn't just make empty accusations just because of what you THINK you saw. I thought that it is basically like common sense to not assume everyone who has the same ID is the same person.
Do you think it is FlaSh everytime you see someone with the name FlaSh on iCCup? ok then.
On December 15 2012 17:44 GGzerG wrote: You didn't see me ever above C+ in the last like 3 years because it hasn't happened, fortunately for me I am not the person you think I am, which is n.Die_Telecom, I know because I also saw him on iCCup as well with B- I believe, you shouldn't just make empty accusations just because of what you THINK you saw. I thought that it is basically like common sense to not assume everyone who has the same ID is the same person.
Do you think it is FlaSh everytime you see someone with the name FlaSh on iCCup? ok then.
no but you normaly don't long game either...... i remeber talking to you with a friend than you got b- with only 2 gate. that combined with that acount onlly having games around 3-5 minutes makes it pretty clear for me lol.
Relax guys.. This whole conversation is moot cause I'm leaving GGzerG in. I'm sure there are a lot of people that are C+ bordering B- but that signed up but thats OKAY.
iCCup ranking isn't a perfect science, its just an arb guideline that is so skewed cause of multiple accounts and people not continuously laddering so we know their full rank.
Keep in mind its a bo1 koth so anything can happen regardless of rank.
GGzerG call me when u can play our match, i choose Jade as next map. I won't be able to play tomorrow before 22.00 CET, because i have to play 2 tournaments on the evening. We can play after 22 CET or on monday (anytime).
Hey guys well TBH me and Radley can't seem to find a time we can both play at the same time, and also after tonight I am going to be busy practically all week getting ready for christmas, so just move on to the next player and I can play at the bottom of the list if possible, I don't want to keep people waiting.
On December 18 2012 10:23 GGzerG wrote: Hey guys well TBH me and Radley can't seem to find a time we can both play at the same time, and also after tonight I am going to be busy practically all week getting ready for christmas, so just move on to the next player and I can play at the bottom of the list if possible, I don't want to keep people waiting.
I sent you pm already before read this... Ok, if next player is ready to play 10-23 CET anyday with me, then u can move GGzerG behind him, just to keep this moving.
On December 18 2012 20:26 fold wrote: Isn't it just one game? Can't find time? ...sounds like dodging to me.
Who are you, that someone should dodge you? o.o
I met him on iccup one hour ago, he had time for one game but still wanted someone else to play, because he is busy during whole week and will block time if he would win with me. Quirinus you're next challenger, call me to set up date.
Sorry guys no im not dodging, I saw him on iccup and told him what I wrote here, if I were to win, not saying I would but, I wouldn't be able play all week due to christmas stuff, if I could be put at the end of the list that would be great, thanks.
On December 27 2012 23:50 thezanursic wrote: Hmm I kinda feel like Fold, Radley and Ihufa are actually more like B- maybe they never hit B-, but their skill certainly isn't C+.
On December 31 2012 05:06 Iplaythings wrote: After checking Radleys results I feel alot better about loosing to him, even if I feel like I didn't play my best
Iccup: JST-Ero_Sennin (haven't played much because I play SC2 but I'm still around C- at least ^^) Race: Protoss Rank: D+ last season 15-2, was C- before that (and B- a long long time ago) Other ids: Nope Skype: ero-sennin22
We have played with ihufa, next challenger will be Entaro[AoV]. The pace of this slowed down a little bit... And also, when u will start casting? L_master had some technical problems last time?
On January 06 2013 00:20 radley wrote: We have played with ihufa, next challenger will be Entaro[AoV]. The pace of this slowed down a little bit... And also, when u will start casting? L_master had some technical problems last time?
He said he can do it in a week.. If not I'll start looking for another caster. Thanks for the upload mca64[KDV]
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
I'm wishing good luck to new king, but still will be cheering up for Ninazerg That's a shame that i couldnt reach 10 kills streak, especial because 'bitches won't be mine' : (
Yeah I'm looking forward to the casts too.. L_Master said monday/tuesday hes going to rip through some of them. Hoping his comp doesnt break down this time
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
On December 12 2012 03:01 Zergneedsfood wrote: Why ban Fold?
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
you are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
On January 17 2013 00:19 SlowBullets wrote: It's mca64...can't expect much.
I'm sorry. I don't even know him. Maybe I should've taken that as a flag.
Don't worry after bumping into him on ICC a few times he's a lost cause. Had to learn the harder way.
Also looking at his forum post trends he keeps making himself look like a fool...hahaha.
PS: illiterate mca64 response incoming, cover your head in aluminum foil to protect against all stupidity!
I played one game with you. Game was short cause you arent worthy my skills and after game you started talking shit and cryin, i just ingored you backt then. Now i read your post.. do you have any problems with memory? Maybe i can remind you with my link to my stream archive? Dont thank me for my help
On December 12 2012 04:26 mca64[KDV] wrote: [quote]
cause his skill isnt C level? also i and few others from this KOTH cant play with him - even on extra high latency game isnt playable
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
you are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
On January 17 2013 00:19 SlowBullets wrote: It's mca64...can't expect much.
I'm sorry. I don't even know him. Maybe I should've taken that as a flag.
Don't worry after bumping into him on ICC a few times he's a lost cause. Had to learn the harder way.
Also looking at his forum post trends he keeps making himself look like a fool...hahaha.
PS: illiterate mca64 response incoming, cover your head in aluminum foil to protect against all stupidity!
I played one game with you. Game was short cause you arent worthy my skills and after game you started talking shit and cryin, i just ingored you backt then. Now i read your post.. do you have any problems with memory? Maybe i can remind you with my link to my stream archive? Dont thank me for my help
What skills Mca64? I beat you 4-0 or 5-0 without trying. Should I help you remember by posting replays or finding the videos in my stream archive? You have the worst attitude out of anyone in BW forums, and yes it is possible for someone to go C to B- rank in a month, that is not even close to being impossible. Get over yourself mca64, don't even try to say anything back to me, because you know what the deal is.
On December 12 2012 04:32 Zergneedsfood wrote: [quote]
How do you know? He hasn't gone above C level on iCCup has he?
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
you are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
On January 17 2013 00:19 SlowBullets wrote: It's mca64...can't expect much.
I'm sorry. I don't even know him. Maybe I should've taken that as a flag.
Don't worry after bumping into him on ICC a few times he's a lost cause. Had to learn the harder way.
Also looking at his forum post trends he keeps making himself look like a fool...hahaha.
PS: illiterate mca64 response incoming, cover your head in aluminum foil to protect against all stupidity!
I played one game with you. Game was short cause you arent worthy my skills and after game you started talking shit and cryin, i just ingored you backt then. Now i read your post.. do you have any problems with memory? Maybe i can remind you with my link to my stream archive? Dont thank me for my help
What skills Mca64? I beat you 4-0 or 5-0 without trying. Should I help you remember by posting replays or finding the videos in my stream archive? You have the worst attitude out of anyone in BW forums, and yes it is possible for someone to go C to B- rank in a month, that is not even close to being impossible. Get over yourself mca64, don't even try to say anything back to me, because you know what the deal is.
yes, please find game when you dint win by a proxy 2 gate... oh wait If you cant find i can post our games where you were raped
On December 12 2012 04:36 mca64[KDV] wrote: [quote]
Rush[pain] also couldnt go higher than c+, does it mean he is C skill player?
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
you are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
You said couldn't, not didn't. Couldn't implies by it's usage that he tried to and failed. Clearly if you try and get B- but can't get it your not B-.
Folds case is different because he hasn't laddered that much on iccup but there really isn't that much evidence to say he is clearly a blue rank. He didn't even get the win in YSL.
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
you are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
On December 12 2012 05:04 mca64[KDV] wrote: [quote]
sorry my english isnt too good. Fold was in YSL final, in semi he raped dr shrinker who got b- last season. Last time fold won one game with predator, who is A- player on NW, 2 games with julia (also a-) etc etc. How c-/c guy gonna win with him? also he plays toss, which is imba on low level ranks
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
you are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules.
To simply dismiss the arguments and go "Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
On December 12 2012 05:29 sluggaslamoo wrote: [quote]
Can you like, please stop being an idiot? We see this shit in D Rank Tours all the time and all it really does is show how immature the community is.
He worked his ass off to get where he was in the YSL final and he worked his ass off to prepare for NW. Its not fold's fault his opponent underestimated him.
Basically there's nothing to be gained from doing well in a tournament because people will think you are high rank when you are really not. He has tried to be higher than C ranks and never made it. What does that mean? It means he's not fucking B rank.
Also, its fucking KOTH, who gives a shit? Deal with it.
Sorry we won't play fold in NW anymore because it makes him look too good. And guys nobody take tours seriously and prepare builds, because there's a big chance you won't get to play in the next one. -_-
you are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules.
To simply dismiss the arguments and go "Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
I really don't know if you were trying to argue with me or MCA. I generally agree with what you are saying, but I was just pointing out that what MCA specifically said is not always true and I also disagree with him saying that it's impossible to get from C to B in a month.
Theoretically someone who has never played a single game of brood war could hop onto it and beat Flash at his peak. It's EXTERMELY unlikely, but theoretically possible. It is the same for improvement in practice almost nobody would hit A+ after a month of playing, but it's possible in theory.
It's the same for Fold. It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month, but everything points towards it happening (and then again C to B- is not *that* unlikely) + Show Spoiler +
I hope I didn't overcomplicate this for no reason!
you are stupid noob. When i said he is blue rank thats means he is blue rank. Deal it
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules.
To simply dismiss the arguments and go "Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
I really don't know if you were trying to argue with me or MCA. I generally agree with what you are saying, but I was just pointing out that what MCA specifically said is not always true and I also disagree with him saying that it's impossible to get from C to B in a month.
Theoretically someone who has never played a single game of brood war could hop onto it and beat Flash at his peak. It's EXTERMELY unlikely, but theoretically possible. It is the same for improvement in practice almost nobody would hit A+ after a month of playing, but it's possible in theory.
It's the same for Fold. It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month, but everything points towards it happening (and then again C to B- is not *that* unlikely) + Show Spoiler +
I hope I didn't overcomplicate this for no reason!
First paragraph: Okay, I guess we agree on that.
Second paragraph: I'm going to try my very utmost hardest to not engage in a vitriolic tirade insulting you personally, but explain why you are completely wrong in a very poised and eloquent manner.
Good sir, I do hereby submit to you that I wish to express my disconcordance with your attestation to the relativistic constitution of the merits of aptitude in the esteemed virtuosity of one Lee Young Ho as juxtaposed aside a dilettante, nay, a novitiate of sorts in the school of StellaMestieret: guerra delle nidiate.
A hypothesis would better explain your assertion, as a hypothesis is a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth. I understand that you are utilizing the term 'theory' as a conjectural device, and perhaps unintentionally, deceptively so. However, a theory must be supported by observable patterns of behavior that lead to the formation of a guiding set of principles.
When we talk about oddsmaking theory, we generally are speaking about unknown variables that affect the outcome of a particular contingency. For example, a salesman sets a goal for a certain number of phone calls per hour based on data that has been collected to maximize his sales proficiency. He knows that the phone numbers on his list are considered more likely to pick up their phones and speak with him. He knows his sales pitch, and has it down to a cue. He has a solid, attractive product that he knows he can convince most people that they will need. However, what he does not know, is how the potential customers will react to him. It is technically possible that none of the people he calls will make a purchase. However, it is highly unlikely that this will be the case, because the company he works for has calculated that there will be an overall "average" of positive responses per phone call, thus, to make sales, the volume of phone-calls should simply be increased until the sales quota is met.
Even in this scenario where there are unknown variables, there is certainty in knowing that, eventually, a sale will be made. Now, you may think that I've just defeated the point I was making. If an unlimited absolute newcomers were to play "Flash at the peak of his career", there is an uncertainty variable that dictates that eventually, Flash would lose. In reality, however, all of the variables are controlled. It is Flash's fully-functional mind versus the fully-functional mind of Player X, but in a quite narrow context, relatively speaking. StarCraft, the game, even with it's depth, has limitations. So both players are playing within the limitations of the game, to which Player X's understanding can be expressed as 0. Player X therefore has to rely solely on his or her adaptability and dexterity, which would be a minute fraction of a single digit. If Player X played from the moment of his or her birth, all the way to their death, maintaining a constant mathematical understanding of 0 over the entirety of their lifetime, they would probably win approximately zero of their games, although, they may win a fraction of one game, but since games are expressed as whole numbers, if they won 0.04 games, the number would be rounded to 0.
As we can see from this chart, the number of games does not change the outcome. Now, if we used a more realistic model where, over time, the noob begins to gain game knowledge, the odds would still be astronomically low. How low? Like, probably a google-plex.
The point is: it would never ever ever ever ever ever ever get back together happen.
Third paragraph: The odds of a newcomer beating Flash have really nothing to do with the rate by which a player can realistically improve over time. Using a nonsensical scenario to make a point that "anything is possible" does not conform to a human perception of reality because we are limited in space, time, matter, and energy. For example, if there was a huge car accident, and a woman survived somehow, someone might go "It was a miracle from God!", and a skeptic might go "You know, it's possible to not die from a car accident, and in all likelihood, I don't know if even God even exists." then some other guy goes "Hey, anything is possible! Like, a flea could destroy an Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier in a head-to-head battle. I know the odds of this happening are very low, but it could happen, and therefore, God could exist, and this could've been a miracle." I'm not saying God does nor doesn't exist, I'm simply saying applying this kind of absurd "ridiculous scenario" logic to a perfectly logical happening just doesn't make any fucking sense.
On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote: [quote]
That's like Season 19.....chill out lol
That means he could be like A- by now.
Do not be dictated by your fears!
On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:
On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote: [quote]
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules.
To simply dismiss the arguments and go "Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
I really don't know if you were trying to argue with me or MCA. I generally agree with what you are saying, but I was just pointing out that what MCA specifically said is not always true and I also disagree with him saying that it's impossible to get from C to B in a month.
Theoretically someone who has never played a single game of brood war could hop onto it and beat Flash at his peak. It's EXTERMELY unlikely, but theoretically possible. It is the same for improvement in practice almost nobody would hit A+ after a month of playing, but it's possible in theory.
It's the same for Fold. It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month, but everything points towards it happening (and then again C to B- is not *that* unlikely) + Show Spoiler +
I hope I didn't overcomplicate this for no reason!
First paragraph: Okay, I guess we agree on that.
Second paragraph: I'm going to try my very utmost hardest to not engage in a vitriolic tirade insulting you personally, but explain why you are completely wrong in a very poised and eloquent manner.
Good sir, I do hereby submit to you that I wish to express my disconcordance with your attestation to the relativistic constitution of the merits of aptitude in the esteemed virtuosity of one Lee Young Ho as juxtaposed aside a dilettante, nay, a novitiate of sorts in the school of StellaMestieret: guerra delle nidiate.
A hypothesis would better explain your assertion, as a hypothesis is a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth. I understand that you are utilizing the term 'theory' as a conjectural device, and perhaps unintentionally, deceptively so. However, a theory must be supported by observable patterns of behavior that lead to the formation of a guiding set of principles.
When we talk about oddsmaking theory, we generally are speaking about unknown variables that affect the outcome of a particular contingency. For example, a salesman sets a goal for a certain number of phone calls per hour based on data that has been collected to maximize his sales proficiency. He knows that the phone numbers on his list are considered more likely to pick up their phones and speak with him. He knows his sales pitch, and has it down to a cue. He has a solid, attractive product that he knows he can convince most people that they will need. However, what he does not know, is how the potential customers will react to him. It is technically possible that none of the people he calls will make a purchase. However, it is highly unlikely that this will be the case, because the company he works for has calculated that there will be an overall "average" of positive responses per phone call, thus, to make sales, the volume of phone-calls should simply be increased until the sales quota is met.
Even in this scenario where there are unknown variables, there is certainty in knowing that, eventually, a sale will be made. Now, you may think that I've just defeated the point I was making. If an unlimited absolute newcomers were to play "Flash at the peak of his career", there is an uncertainty variable that dictates that eventually, Flash would lose. In reality, however, all of the variables are controlled. It is Flash's fully-functional mind versus the fully-functional mind of Player X, but in a quite narrow context, relatively speaking. StarCraft, the game, even with it's depth, has limitations. So both players are playing within the limitations of the game, to which Player X's understanding can be expressed as 0. Player X therefore has to rely solely on his or her adaptability and dexterity, which would be a minute fraction of a single digit. If Player X played from the moment of his or her birth, all the way to their death, maintaining a constant mathematical understanding of 0 over the entirety of their lifetime, they would probably win approximately zero of their games, although, they may win a fraction of one game, but since games are expressed as whole numbers, if they won 0.04 games, the number would be rounded to 0.
As we can see from this chart, the number of games does not change the outcome. Now, if we used a more realistic model where, over time, the noob begins to gain game knowledge, the odds would still be astronomically low. How low? Like, probably a google-plex.
The point is: it would never ever ever ever ever ever ever get back together happen.
Third paragraph: The odds of a newcomer beating Flash have really nothing to do with the rate by which a player can realistically improve over time. Using a nonsensical scenario to make a point that "anything is possible" does not conform to a human perception of reality because we are limited in space, time, matter, and energy. For example, if there was a huge car accident, and a woman survived somehow, someone might go "It was a miracle from God!", and a skeptic might go "You know, it's possible to not die from a car accident, and in all likelihood, I don't know if even God even exists." then some other guy goes "Hey, anything is possible! Like, a flea could destroy an Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier in a head-to-head battle. I know the odds of this happening are very low, but it could happen, and therefore, God could exist, and this could've been a miracle." I'm not saying God does nor doesn't exist, I'm simply saying applying this kind of absurd "ridiculous scenario" logic to a perfectly logical happening just doesn't make any fucking sense.
I think we both agree on my second paragraph as well, but you of course being you had to be overly cute and ostentatious in your use of vocabulary just to win an argument by seeming intelligent.
We both understand that the probability of Flash losing to a complete scrub is probably several million times smaller than winning the lottery, but it in no way means that it doesn't exist so you shouldn't have focused your reply solely on that.
The infinite flash vs scrub theorem states that in an infinite amount of sets between Flash and a random scrub (who's skill factor according to you is 0) the scrub would win an infinite amount of games (although this infinity would be majorly dwarfed by the infinity that is the amount of Flash's wins).
On January 16 2013 13:29 Zergneedsfood wrote: [quote]
That's like Season 19.....chill out lol
That means he could be like A- by now.
Do not be dictated by your fears!
On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote:
On January 13 2013 23:20 Zergneedsfood wrote: [quote]
You are stupid noob, he got it yesterday and then posted a blog about it. Up until then he had not gotten blue rank. Deal with it.
Stupid noob.
deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules.
To simply dismiss the arguments and go "Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
I really don't know if you were trying to argue with me or MCA. I generally agree with what you are saying, but I was just pointing out that what MCA specifically said is not always true and I also disagree with him saying that it's impossible to get from C to B in a month.
Theoretically someone who has never played a single game of brood war could hop onto it and beat Flash at his peak. It's EXTERMELY unlikely, but theoretically possible. It is the same for improvement in practice almost nobody would hit A+ after a month of playing, but it's possible in theory.
It's the same for Fold. It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month, but everything points towards it happening (and then again C to B- is not *that* unlikely) + Show Spoiler +
I hope I didn't overcomplicate this for no reason!
First paragraph: Okay, I guess we agree on that.
Second paragraph: I'm going to try my very utmost hardest to not engage in a vitriolic tirade insulting you personally, but explain why you are completely wrong in a very poised and eloquent manner.
Good sir, I do hereby submit to you that I wish to express my disconcordance with your attestation to the relativistic constitution of the merits of aptitude in the esteemed virtuosity of one Lee Young Ho as juxtaposed aside a dilettante, nay, a novitiate of sorts in the school of StellaMestieret: guerra delle nidiate.
A hypothesis would better explain your assertion, as a hypothesis is a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth. I understand that you are utilizing the term 'theory' as a conjectural device, and perhaps unintentionally, deceptively so. However, a theory must be supported by observable patterns of behavior that lead to the formation of a guiding set of principles.
When we talk about oddsmaking theory, we generally are speaking about unknown variables that affect the outcome of a particular contingency. For example, a salesman sets a goal for a certain number of phone calls per hour based on data that has been collected to maximize his sales proficiency. He knows that the phone numbers on his list are considered more likely to pick up their phones and speak with him. He knows his sales pitch, and has it down to a cue. He has a solid, attractive product that he knows he can convince most people that they will need. However, what he does not know, is how the potential customers will react to him. It is technically possible that none of the people he calls will make a purchase. However, it is highly unlikely that this will be the case, because the company he works for has calculated that there will be an overall "average" of positive responses per phone call, thus, to make sales, the volume of phone-calls should simply be increased until the sales quota is met.
Even in this scenario where there are unknown variables, there is certainty in knowing that, eventually, a sale will be made. Now, you may think that I've just defeated the point I was making. If an unlimited absolute newcomers were to play "Flash at the peak of his career", there is an uncertainty variable that dictates that eventually, Flash would lose. In reality, however, all of the variables are controlled. It is Flash's fully-functional mind versus the fully-functional mind of Player X, but in a quite narrow context, relatively speaking. StarCraft, the game, even with it's depth, has limitations. So both players are playing within the limitations of the game, to which Player X's understanding can be expressed as 0. Player X therefore has to rely solely on his or her adaptability and dexterity, which would be a minute fraction of a single digit. If Player X played from the moment of his or her birth, all the way to their death, maintaining a constant mathematical understanding of 0 over the entirety of their lifetime, they would probably win approximately zero of their games, although, they may win a fraction of one game, but since games are expressed as whole numbers, if they won 0.04 games, the number would be rounded to 0.
As we can see from this chart, the number of games does not change the outcome. Now, if we used a more realistic model where, over time, the noob begins to gain game knowledge, the odds would still be astronomically low. How low? Like, probably a google-plex.
The point is: it would never ever ever ever ever ever ever get back together happen.
Third paragraph: The odds of a newcomer beating Flash have really nothing to do with the rate by which a player can realistically improve over time. Using a nonsensical scenario to make a point that "anything is possible" does not conform to a human perception of reality because we are limited in space, time, matter, and energy. For example, if there was a huge car accident, and a woman survived somehow, someone might go "It was a miracle from God!", and a skeptic might go "You know, it's possible to not die from a car accident, and in all likelihood, I don't know if even God even exists." then some other guy goes "Hey, anything is possible! Like, a flea could destroy an Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier in a head-to-head battle. I know the odds of this happening are very low, but it could happen, and therefore, God could exist, and this could've been a miracle." I'm not saying God does nor doesn't exist, I'm simply saying applying this kind of absurd "ridiculous scenario" logic to a perfectly logical happening just doesn't make any fucking sense.
my brain, she is broken... use easy vocab kk thnx
@ Reclusive , thnx for finishing this novel I have now finally completed reading one.
On January 16 2013 16:58 SnowFantasy wrote: [quote]
That means he could be like A- by now.
Do not be dictated by your fears!
On January 17 2013 00:11 mca64[KDV] wrote: [quote] deal your brain lag
Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules.
To simply dismiss the arguments and go "Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
I really don't know if you were trying to argue with me or MCA. I generally agree with what you are saying, but I was just pointing out that what MCA specifically said is not always true and I also disagree with him saying that it's impossible to get from C to B in a month.
Theoretically someone who has never played a single game of brood war could hop onto it and beat Flash at his peak. It's EXTERMELY unlikely, but theoretically possible. It is the same for improvement in practice almost nobody would hit A+ after a month of playing, but it's possible in theory.
It's the same for Fold. It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month, but everything points towards it happening (and then again C to B- is not *that* unlikely) + Show Spoiler +
I hope I didn't overcomplicate this for no reason!
First paragraph: Okay, I guess we agree on that.
Second paragraph: I'm going to try my very utmost hardest to not engage in a vitriolic tirade insulting you personally, but explain why you are completely wrong in a very poised and eloquent manner.
Good sir, I do hereby submit to you that I wish to express my disconcordance with your attestation to the relativistic constitution of the merits of aptitude in the esteemed virtuosity of one Lee Young Ho as juxtaposed aside a dilettante, nay, a novitiate of sorts in the school of StellaMestieret: guerra delle nidiate.
A hypothesis would better explain your assertion, as a hypothesis is a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth. I understand that you are utilizing the term 'theory' as a conjectural device, and perhaps unintentionally, deceptively so. However, a theory must be supported by observable patterns of behavior that lead to the formation of a guiding set of principles.
When we talk about oddsmaking theory, we generally are speaking about unknown variables that affect the outcome of a particular contingency. For example, a salesman sets a goal for a certain number of phone calls per hour based on data that has been collected to maximize his sales proficiency. He knows that the phone numbers on his list are considered more likely to pick up their phones and speak with him. He knows his sales pitch, and has it down to a cue. He has a solid, attractive product that he knows he can convince most people that they will need. However, what he does not know, is how the potential customers will react to him. It is technically possible that none of the people he calls will make a purchase. However, it is highly unlikely that this will be the case, because the company he works for has calculated that there will be an overall "average" of positive responses per phone call, thus, to make sales, the volume of phone-calls should simply be increased until the sales quota is met.
Even in this scenario where there are unknown variables, there is certainty in knowing that, eventually, a sale will be made. Now, you may think that I've just defeated the point I was making. If an unlimited absolute newcomers were to play "Flash at the peak of his career", there is an uncertainty variable that dictates that eventually, Flash would lose. In reality, however, all of the variables are controlled. It is Flash's fully-functional mind versus the fully-functional mind of Player X, but in a quite narrow context, relatively speaking. StarCraft, the game, even with it's depth, has limitations. So both players are playing within the limitations of the game, to which Player X's understanding can be expressed as 0. Player X therefore has to rely solely on his or her adaptability and dexterity, which would be a minute fraction of a single digit. If Player X played from the moment of his or her birth, all the way to their death, maintaining a constant mathematical understanding of 0 over the entirety of their lifetime, they would probably win approximately zero of their games, although, they may win a fraction of one game, but since games are expressed as whole numbers, if they won 0.04 games, the number would be rounded to 0.
As we can see from this chart, the number of games does not change the outcome. Now, if we used a more realistic model where, over time, the noob begins to gain game knowledge, the odds would still be astronomically low. How low? Like, probably a google-plex.
The point is: it would never ever ever ever ever ever ever get back together happen.
Third paragraph: The odds of a newcomer beating Flash have really nothing to do with the rate by which a player can realistically improve over time. Using a nonsensical scenario to make a point that "anything is possible" does not conform to a human perception of reality because we are limited in space, time, matter, and energy. For example, if there was a huge car accident, and a woman survived somehow, someone might go "It was a miracle from God!", and a skeptic might go "You know, it's possible to not die from a car accident, and in all likelihood, I don't know if even God even exists." then some other guy goes "Hey, anything is possible! Like, a flea could destroy an Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier in a head-to-head battle. I know the odds of this happening are very low, but it could happen, and therefore, God could exist, and this could've been a miracle." I'm not saying God does nor doesn't exist, I'm simply saying applying this kind of absurd "ridiculous scenario" logic to a perfectly logical happening just doesn't make any fucking sense.
I think we both agree on my second paragraph as well, but you of course being you had to be overly cute and ostentatious in your use of vocabulary just to win an argument by seeming intelligent.
We both understand that the probability of Flash losing to a complete scrub is probably several million times smaller than winning the lottery, but it in no way means that it doesn't exist so you shouldn't have focused your reply solely on that.
The infinite flash vs scrub theorem states that in an infinite amount of sets between Flash and a random scrub (who's skill factor according to you is 0) the scrub would win an infinite amount of games (although this infinity would be majorly dwarfed by the infinity that is the amount of Flash's wins).
The Infinite Monkey Theorem actually comes from Aristotle, who asserted that if you threw down dust, there was a very slender chance that it could for into the letters of the Annals of Ennius. The theorem basically states that given an infinite amount of time, anything that can happen, will happen.
What if something can't happen?
I'm not talking about 'skill' when comparing "Flash at the peak of his career" to the "Total scrub who has never touched StarCraft". I'm talking strictly about game-knowledge alone. If you have no knowledge, your game knowledge can be expressed as zero. In terms of skill, intelligence, adaptability, dexterity, the scrub's skill would be something very, very, very low.
Because we are working in a very limited window of StarCraft, where you start with 4 workers in one of 4 places, and with no knowledge of the game, there is no possibility of a build order being executed correctly, including a 4-pool. But let's say a 4-pool somehow happened. "Flash at the peak of his career" would simply be able to defend the attack.
Simply put, Flash would have to have to have some lapse in mechanics or judgment, but since you specifically dictated that it would be Flash at his very best, there would be no lapse in mechanics or judgment large enough to ever to produce a win, therefore, the scrub would simply would have to rely his game knowledge, which is non-existent. Furthermore, Flash would have to make an enormous number of mistakes at the very fundamental levels of the game for the scrub to be able to even have advantage to exploit, but even this were the case, the scrub has zero knowledge of how to exploit any openings present, so any exploitation would have to be pure luck - which might make you go "Aha! So there is a probability." but there really isn't considering that Flash would not make an enormous number of mistakes at the very fundamental levels of the game, whereas the scrub undoubtedly would.
To put this in StarCraft terms:
A marine has a range of 4 (5 maximum) A siege tank has a range of 7 without siege
If the marine and siege tank fight head-on, the siege tank will undoubtedly get the first hit. The marine may get one shot at the tank, but after the second shot, the marine dies. The marine will never win, no matter how many times this scenario is reproduced, because all of the variables that are important to the outcome of the fight are limited, and are not subject to change.
For the scrub to even theoretically have a chance, he would have to have incredible adaptability to be able to sit down in front of a game like StarCraft, understand basic concepts of the game, then process those basic concepts into more advanced concepts, then have the dexterity to execute those concepts into strategies, and then have intimate knowledge of the map, costs of units, economy management, multi-tasking, unit composition, unit positioning, unit speeds, building and upgrade speeds/costs, spell-casting abilities, physical timing, reaction timing, worker-to-army ratios, and many, many more amazingly difficult learning experiences all in his first sitting. The human mind does not have the computing power to do something like that. I'm talking about limited values on tangible things, and you're talking about unlimited values on abstract things.
Also, monkeys would not write the entire works of Shakespeare, because it is a well-known fact that monkeys hate Shakespeare.
On January 17 2013 00:12 Zergneedsfood wrote: [quote]
Do not be dictated by your fears!
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Learn to type a response before you post please. Editing your insults in, especially one that's grammatically incorrect, doesn't help when the person you're insulting happens to see.
Honestly, if you're just panzy and scared to admit that Fold is much better than you and you'd get butt raped by him, just say that instead of just complaining that he is blue rank before he was B- rank. Surely your fears that he was B was because he just stomped your face and you had no other way of justifying it (rather than the obvious conclusion).
man do you have any problems with logic? Do you think fold now is b- and 1 month ago he was C rank? comon
So basically he raped you and you're butthurt and you have no other explanation. The rules explicitly state IF YOU HAD GOTTEN B- rank, which means if you haven't acquired blue rank, under these parameters you're not B rank.
Stop trying to argue when you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
are you spam bot here? 4.7k post and know nothnig about sc;bw. ?Tour is for yellow rank, fold's skills was higher than yellow rank when he signed and you should know it
I was bored yesterday and so I went browsing the iccup ladder and I found this guy:
He has reached B- with a 95% with only playing D players that have a winration that is below 33%. I'm just saying that the rank you have doesn't actually mean as much as we try to pretend it does.
People who abuse the system are the exception, not the rule. Generally, C ranks are lower-intermediate skills on the iccup server. Now, I know this argument will always arise when you have a tournament where the premise is "may the best player win", while there is a simultaneous skill cap. However, there's an argument to be made here that if you used a manipulation of data to gain unfair advantage, you would be in breach of good sportsmanship. For example, in the 2008 Beijing Olympics, when the Chinese National Gymnastics Team sent out their competitors, there was controversy over their age and eligibility, the reason being that they may not have met the requirements set out by the rules.
To simply dismiss the arguments and go "Eh, it doesn't really matter" really shows a lack of objectivity and I don't believe to be productive to a conversation. As long as we're not engaging in death threats, "your mom" jokes, nuclear warfare, then I see no problem in having a legitimate disagreement with someone, but it's very easy to dismiss the entirety of the discussion as "childish" (which is kind of intellectually lazy) and have many other people jump on that bandwagon.
I really don't know if you were trying to argue with me or MCA. I generally agree with what you are saying, but I was just pointing out that what MCA specifically said is not always true and I also disagree with him saying that it's impossible to get from C to B in a month.
Theoretically someone who has never played a single game of brood war could hop onto it and beat Flash at his peak. It's EXTERMELY unlikely, but theoretically possible. It is the same for improvement in practice almost nobody would hit A+ after a month of playing, but it's possible in theory.
It's the same for Fold. It's unlikely for a player to show such massive improvement in a month, but everything points towards it happening (and then again C to B- is not *that* unlikely) + Show Spoiler +
I hope I didn't overcomplicate this for no reason!
First paragraph: Okay, I guess we agree on that.
Second paragraph: I'm going to try my very utmost hardest to not engage in a vitriolic tirade insulting you personally, but explain why you are completely wrong in a very poised and eloquent manner.
Good sir, I do hereby submit to you that I wish to express my disconcordance with your attestation to the relativistic constitution of the merits of aptitude in the esteemed virtuosity of one Lee Young Ho as juxtaposed aside a dilettante, nay, a novitiate of sorts in the school of StellaMestieret: guerra delle nidiate.
A hypothesis would better explain your assertion, as a hypothesis is a proposition made as a basis for reasoning, without any assumption of its truth. I understand that you are utilizing the term 'theory' as a conjectural device, and perhaps unintentionally, deceptively so. However, a theory must be supported by observable patterns of behavior that lead to the formation of a guiding set of principles.
When we talk about oddsmaking theory, we generally are speaking about unknown variables that affect the outcome of a particular contingency. For example, a salesman sets a goal for a certain number of phone calls per hour based on data that has been collected to maximize his sales proficiency. He knows that the phone numbers on his list are considered more likely to pick up their phones and speak with him. He knows his sales pitch, and has it down to a cue. He has a solid, attractive product that he knows he can convince most people that they will need. However, what he does not know, is how the potential customers will react to him. It is technically possible that none of the people he calls will make a purchase. However, it is highly unlikely that this will be the case, because the company he works for has calculated that there will be an overall "average" of positive responses per phone call, thus, to make sales, the volume of phone-calls should simply be increased until the sales quota is met.
Even in this scenario where there are unknown variables, there is certainty in knowing that, eventually, a sale will be made. Now, you may think that I've just defeated the point I was making. If an unlimited absolute newcomers were to play "Flash at the peak of his career", there is an uncertainty variable that dictates that eventually, Flash would lose. In reality, however, all of the variables are controlled. It is Flash's fully-functional mind versus the fully-functional mind of Player X, but in a quite narrow context, relatively speaking. StarCraft, the game, even with it's depth, has limitations. So both players are playing within the limitations of the game, to which Player X's understanding can be expressed as 0. Player X therefore has to rely solely on his or her adaptability and dexterity, which would be a minute fraction of a single digit. If Player X played from the moment of his or her birth, all the way to their death, maintaining a constant mathematical understanding of 0 over the entirety of their lifetime, they would probably win approximately zero of their games, although, they may win a fraction of one game, but since games are expressed as whole numbers, if they won 0.04 games, the number would be rounded to 0.
As we can see from this chart, the number of games does not change the outcome. Now, if we used a more realistic model where, over time, the noob begins to gain game knowledge, the odds would still be astronomically low. How low? Like, probably a google-plex.
The point is: it would never ever ever ever ever ever ever get back together happen.
Third paragraph: The odds of a newcomer beating Flash have really nothing to do with the rate by which a player can realistically improve over time. Using a nonsensical scenario to make a point that "anything is possible" does not conform to a human perception of reality because we are limited in space, time, matter, and energy. For example, if there was a huge car accident, and a woman survived somehow, someone might go "It was a miracle from God!", and a skeptic might go "You know, it's possible to not die from a car accident, and in all likelihood, I don't know if even God even exists." then some other guy goes "Hey, anything is possible! Like, a flea could destroy an Nimitz-class Aircraft Carrier in a head-to-head battle. I know the odds of this happening are very low, but it could happen, and therefore, God could exist, and this could've been a miracle." I'm not saying God does nor doesn't exist, I'm simply saying applying this kind of absurd "ridiculous scenario" logic to a perfectly logical happening just doesn't make any fucking sense.
I think we both agree on my second paragraph as well, but you of course being you had to be overly cute and ostentatious in your use of vocabulary just to win an argument by seeming intelligent.
We both understand that the probability of Flash losing to a complete scrub is probably several million times smaller than winning the lottery, but it in no way means that it doesn't exist so you shouldn't have focused your reply solely on that.
The infinite flash vs scrub theorem states that in an infinite amount of sets between Flash and a random scrub (who's skill factor according to you is 0) the scrub would win an infinite amount of games (although this infinity would be majorly dwarfed by the infinity that is the amount of Flash's wins).
The Infinite Monkey Theorem actually comes from Aristotle, who asserted that if you threw down dust, there was a very slender chance that it could for into the letters of the Annals of Ennius. The theorem basically states that given an infinite amount of time, anything that can happen, will happen.
What if something can't happen?
I'm not talking about 'skill' when comparing "Flash at the peak of his career" to the "Total scrub who has never touched StarCraft". I'm talking strictly about game-knowledge alone. If you have no knowledge, your game knowledge can be expressed as zero. In terms of skill, intelligence, adaptability, dexterity, the scrub's skill would be something very, very, very low.
Because we are working in a very limited window of StarCraft, where you start with 4 workers in one of 4 places, and with no knowledge of the game, there is no possibility of a build order being executed correctly, including a 4-pool. But let's say a 4-pool somehow happened. "Flash at the peak of his career" would simply be able to defend the attack.
Simply put, Flash would have to have to have some lapse in mechanics or judgment, but since you specifically dictated that it would be Flash at his very best, there would be no lapse in mechanics or judgment large enough to ever to produce a win, therefore, the scrub would simply would have to rely his game knowledge, which is non-existent. Furthermore, Flash would have to make an enormous number of mistakes at the very fundamental levels of the game for the scrub to be able to even have advantage to exploit, but even this were the case, the scrub has zero knowledge of how to exploit any openings present, so any exploitation would have to be pure luck - which might make you go "Aha! So there is a probability." but there really isn't considering that Flash would not make an enormous number of mistakes at the very fundamental levels of the game, whereas the scrub undoubtedly would.
To put this in StarCraft terms:
A marine has a range of 4 (5 maximum) A siege tank has a range of 7 without siege
If the marine and siege tank fight head-on, the siege tank will undoubtedly get the first hit. The marine may get one shot at the tank, but after the second shot, the marine dies. The marine will never win, no matter how many times this scenario is reproduced, because all of the variables that are important to the outcome of the fight are limited, and are not subject to change.
For the scrub to even theoretically have a chance, he would have to have incredible adaptability to be able to sit down in front of a game like StarCraft, understand basic concepts of the game, then process those basic concepts into more advanced concepts, then have the dexterity to execute those concepts into strategies, and then have intimate knowledge of the map, costs of units, economy management, multi-tasking, unit composition, unit positioning, unit speeds, building and upgrade speeds/costs, spell-casting abilities, physical timing, reaction timing, worker-to-army ratios, and many, many more amazingly difficult learning experiences all in his first sitting. The human mind does not have the computing power to do something like that. I'm talking about limited values on tangible things, and you're talking about unlimited values on abstract things.
Also, monkeys would not write the entire works of Shakespeare, because it is a well-known fact that monkeys hate Shakespeare.
You can make the right decisions by pure luck or by simply closing your eyes and randomly clicking the mouse and spamming the keyboard now this probably wouldn't happen during the lifespan of the universe, but in infinity everything that can happen eventually happens. 4 Pool versus a 14 CC buildorder win probably has the most likely chance of happening it's still as slim as fuck and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't happen in a conceivable amount of time. Of course the zerglings would also have to be micro'd correctly by pure luck.
I am right and I know what you mean and I agree to an extent, but I am also right.
I really don't understand what you are trying to do by arguing with me it's not like I'm not aware of what you are saying and it's not like you aren't aware of the most miniature chance of Flash losing a game to a complete scrub. The example I choose to gave was bad and I admit it especially in the context that it was used, but it still holds strong with whatever little meaning it had.
You guys argue about the most ridiculously pointless unrelated shit, like seriously, it is always the same people derailing BW threads just to try to feel like they won the argument / disagreement , create some sort of feeling of self indulgence because they feel like they have to be right 100% of the time. The problem here is we have people who like to argue a lot, and neither one of you will ever admit when the other is right or wrong.
Get over yourselves and lets get back to what this thread is actually about.
On January 26 2013 02:54 GGzerG wrote: You guys argue about the most ridiculously pointless unrelated shit, like seriously, it is always the same people derailing BW threads just to try to feel like they won the argument / disagreement , create some sort of feeling of self indulgence because they feel like they have to be right 100% of the time. The problem here is we have people who like to argue a lot, and neither one of you will ever admit when the other is right or wrong.
Get over yourselves and lets get back to what this thread is actually about.
On January 26 2013 02:54 GGzerG wrote: You guys argue about the most ridiculously pointless unrelated shit, like seriously, it is always the same people derailing BW threads just to try to feel like they won the argument / disagreement , create some sort of feeling of self indulgence because they feel like they have to be right 100% of the time. The problem here is we have people who like to argue a lot, and neither one of you will ever admit when the other is right or wrong.
Get over yourselves and lets get back to what this thread is actually about.
I thought we were having fun here.
Even if we were having a real argument, it feels so weird hearing "Get over yourself" from GGzerG. And didn't you just come out of the blue and say this earlier?:
What skills Mca64? I beat you 4-0 or 5-0 without trying. Should I help you remember by posting replays or finding the videos in my stream archive? You have the worst attitude out of anyone in BW forums, and yes it is possible for someone to go C to B- rank in a month, that is not even close to being impossible. Get over yourself mca64, don't even try to say anything back to me, because you know what the deal is.
On January 26 2013 02:54 GGzerG wrote: You guys argue about the most ridiculously pointless unrelated shit, like seriously, it is always the same people derailing BW threads just to try to feel like they won the argument / disagreement , create some sort of feeling of self indulgence because they feel like they have to be right 100% of the time. The problem here is we have people who like to argue a lot, and neither one of you will ever admit when the other is right or wrong.
Get over yourselves and lets get back to what this thread is actually about.
I thought we were having fun here.
Even if we were having a real argument, it feels so weird hearing "Get over yourself" from GGzerG. And didn't you just come out of the blue and say this earlier?:
What skills Mca64? I beat you 4-0 or 5-0 without trying. Should I help you remember by posting replays or finding the videos in my stream archive? You have the worst attitude out of anyone in BW forums, and yes it is possible for someone to go C to B- rank in a month, that is not even close to being impossible. Get over yourself mca64, don't even try to say anything back to me, because you know what the deal is.
Yup, you totally did that.
Wow who cares, I think we all can agree that MCA talks to much with his random conspiracy theories, and trying to bash peoples skills, what I did was not even argue, since I said 1 thing and never even responded to him back, what I did was an attempt to make him understand why what he was saying was idiotic, sorry Nina, I forgot that you must have a feeling that you've come out on top of every conversation and "Argument" you ever get into with someone.
I think none replay was casted yet... L_Master tried once but had technical problems. I believe Splax vs Ninazerg was played already, but this league seems to be dead for some reason, and Kal_ra didn't update scores.
About the stream, I can ask Birdie, if he would like to cast some games. He did really good job when casting BWMN tournament and has very good video quality, including HD perspective.
Hmmm so who won? We gotta move this on, I want to play, and at this rate I'll never get to.
I'm tempted to cast some games, but I have almost 0 experience, English isn't my first language and there are way better people who should have dibs. xD
Nothing special really. I hadn't seen much of Splax's games, but literally everyone told me he was "cheesy". I watched some of the YSL reps of Splax, and he seemed to play pretty normal, but against my better judgement, I decided to be overly-cautious, which gave Splax ample room to expand and macro freely.
On February 02 2013 00:46 Bakuryu wrote: gj ninazerg, how about watching set 2 of the same final, before posting set 3. or wasnt he at his peak in that game?
Updated OP and Liquipedia. Sorry for being so inactive over the last month. Life just took priorities.. I'll put more effort in keeping this thing going so we can see a second round asap. Also working on getting a committed caster
I'll cast the replays next weekend, will try to do it all in one go if I can. More specifically, I'm looking at Sunday, Feb 17 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00) as the best option for the date/time of the cast.
I'm trying to figure out if that clashes with anything else, and the only thing I can find is DRIT5, which is 2 hours earlier (means I'll probably run over that for a while), so I could move it earlier one or two hours. If anyone has any suggestions about this, I'm all ears.
If I can't find a better time, I'll put it in the calendar tomorrow as the final date/time.
Cast will be on Sunday, Feb 17 6:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). Most of the games will be casted or maybe all if everything goes well. The event is in the calendar, so it should be easy to spot once it's close, and it has a [BW] tag for your convenience.
Stream done, thanks everyone for tuning in, it was a blast. :D I'll try to get the YouTube VODs ready in a day or two, but due to the technical difficulties at the start it's going to take a bit longer.
I basically spent a lot of time setting up the overlays and fancy things in advance for all the games and I tested it several times yesterday and today and it worked 100% well, but for some reason when I started casting live it just botched and froze every few minutes (OBS) so I had to switch to xsplit; where I didn't have any fancy overlays to give enough justice to players and everyone watchin. :< Luckily I got awesome skills and managed to make do with an almost Yoda-ish scoreboard. xD
>> Twitch.TV VOD << This was my first time casting and English is actually my 3rd language, so don't be too hard on me. :D
^^ That's basically everything except the introduction, the first game and a bit of the start of the second game. If you want to watch introduction and game 1 you can do so by following these links (there are many short ones :S):
Next cast is probably going to be in about 2 weeks when we have half a dozen or so replays. I could do casts when each game is played, but I think it's actually better to wait for more games to play out, since imo a 1 replay cast doesn't make much sense, especialy when it's unscheduled.
On February 18 2013 09:40 quirinus wrote: Stream done, thanks everyone for tuning in, it was a blast. :D I'll try to get the YouTube VODs ready in a day or two, but due to the technical difficulties at the start it's going to take a bit longer.
I basically spent a lot of time setting up the overlays and fancy things in advance for all the games and I tested it several times yesterday and today and it worked 100% well, but for some reason when I started casting live it just botched and froze every few minutes (OBS) so I had to switch to xsplit; where I didn't have any fancy overlays to give enough justice to players and everyone watchin. :< Luckily I got awesome skills and managed to make do with an almost Yoda-ish scoreboard. xD
>> Twitch.TV VOD << This was my first time casting and English is actually my 3rd language, so don't be too hard on me. :D
^^ That's basically everything except the introduction, the first game and a bit of the start of the second game. If you want to watch introduction and game 1 you can do so by following these links (there are many short ones :S):
Next cast is probably going to be in about 2 weeks when we have half a dozen or so replays. I could do casts when each game is played, but I think it's actually better to wait for more games to play out, since imo a 1 replay cast doesn't make much sense, especialy when it's unscheduled.
Thanks to Kal_Ra and the players!
Thanks for the cast quirinus. I actually learnt a lot from it since I never bothered to watch the replay. T_T too painful.
On February 18 2013 09:40 quirinus wrote: Stream done, thanks everyone for tuning in, it was a blast. :D I'll try to get the YouTube VODs ready in a day or two, but due to the technical difficulties at the start it's going to take a bit longer.
I basically spent a lot of time setting up the overlays and fancy things in advance for all the games and I tested it several times yesterday and today and it worked 100% well, but for some reason when I started casting live it just botched and froze every few minutes (OBS) so I had to switch to xsplit; where I didn't have any fancy overlays to give enough justice to players and everyone watchin. :< Luckily I got awesome skills and managed to make do with an almost Yoda-ish scoreboard. xD
>> Twitch.TV VOD << This was my first time casting and English is actually my 3rd language, so don't be too hard on me. :D
^^ That's basically everything except the introduction, the first game and a bit of the start of the second game. If you want to watch introduction and game 1 you can do so by following these links (there are many short ones :S):
Next cast is probably going to be in about 2 weeks when we have half a dozen or so replays. I could do casts when each game is played, but I think it's actually better to wait for more games to play out, since imo a 1 replay cast doesn't make much sense, especialy when it's unscheduled.
Thanks to Kal_Ra and the players!
Thanks for the cast quirinus. I actually learnt a lot from it since I never bothered to watch the replay. T_T too painful.
Yea, I feel you, I really didn't want to cast/watch my game as well. :<
You're welcome guys, thanks for the support, it's really appreciated.
I'll try to piece Game 1 together and upload it. Twitch or YouTube moved the start/end of most of the videos by a few seconds so they're not prefectly cut as I cut them, so you might see a part of the previous game in some of the videos.
Edit: Also, seems like YouTube automatically reduced the quality, I'll try to fix it so it doesn't happen next time, maybe even fix these videos if it's easy.
On February 21 2013 20:14 iwL-ASmOdey wrote: o-O what is it? )))
What is what?
If you're asking what is this, read the OP, if you're asking why he's saying finally, my guess is it's because these videos were supposed to be done by someone ages ago; if you're asking what is my post, read the OP again, those are the games.
no it's not, get skype and I'll add you to the skype group that has most of people that are playing this ;P
try to contact your opponent. the time limit is about 2 weeks, but people prefer to do it sooner in average. if you can't contact your opponent, post here.
Message him (Splax or Glioburd) on TL, it's really all up to us to continue running this. Both of them have posted on TL in the past week and Giloburd is an active streamer so shouldn't be hard. Kal_ra has been really on the ball with updating this thread whenever games are played.
Okay so heres whatsup... I've been really busy with school over the last quarter (anyone whos taken a computer architecture class making their own pipelined cpu knows what I'm talking about lol). I really dont have time to keep up with this league pming players to play their games
So the way I see it two things can happen: 1. Liquipedia. Everything is on the wiki. The league can technically easily continue on there.. Its well organized and anyone can edit it. If someone wants to volunteer as an admin (or even create a new thread to keep track of the league) we can continue this league pretty easily. To do this the king will have to take more responsibility in reaching out to their opponents and getting things done.. Otherwise this isnt gonna work. 2. The league dies
Sorry guys... I would love to keep at it but I just don't have the time I had back in fall.