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On February 07 2013 06:18 KristofferAG wrote: I still think automine and unlimited selection need to go. Might sign up though. If both players agree to play on BW settings, you can play on BW settings.
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Gaaaah I'm so tired of having SC2 this and that stuffed at me, whatever it is. I can't seem to escape it! Can't even run a damn stream without the chat being full of morons with their pathetic, pointless trolling. I thought at least the BW forum wouldn't be encroached upon by SC2 tournaments of all things, mod or not. How is this still here?
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On February 07 2013 06:26 ImbaTosS wrote: Gaaaah I'm so tired of having SC2 this and that stuffed at me, whatever it is. I can't seem to escape it! Can't even run a damn stream without the chat being full of morons with their pathetic, pointless trolling. I thought at least the BW forum wouldn't be encroached upon by SC2 tournaments of all things, mod or not. How is this still here?
You're killing me here Elegant.
Can't even run a damn stream without the chat being full of morons with their pathetic, pointless trolling.
You're getting thousands of viewers. Of course the chat is going to be loaded with bullshit, stupid trolling from people of all sides. It's just what happens in chats like that:
1. Stupid/Flame Comment 2. Out of thousands of people some invariably take bait 3. They flame/argue/BS back 4. More of chat joins in. 5. .... 6. Chat degenerates.
That said, the TLS chat is MUCH better than many of the other stream chats, but I have yet to be in a multi-K chat that isn't filled with extremely high portions of garbage. It just doesn't, and probably cannot, happen.
I thought at least the BW forum wouldn't be encroached upon by SC2 tournaments of all things, mod or not. How is this still here?
Because you can make a very compelling argument that this isn't an SC2 tournament. When is that last time someone called Dota a "Warcraft 3" tournament? It's certainly closer to being BW than it is SC2 in terms of play (note this doesn't mean it's all that close to BW)
I think the bigger question is, especially as I know how much of a BW supporter you are and how hard you work for the community: Why are you so against something that is good for BW and attracting attention to such an awesome game?
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On February 07 2013 05:41 ImbaTosS wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 05:32 Gecko[Xp] wrote:On February 07 2013 03:39 ImbaTosS wrote: I was going to sign up, then realised that I'm fucked off that this is being posted in BW to take players, and that I couldn't give a single damn about anything SC2 related. Are Blizz and those dicks off The Pulse paying you or something? I was about to reply how this is not really a good response, especially since RUS_Brain is one of the real cool people that supported (and still supports) the Brood War scene (more than most of the negative nancies here), but flaming like there's no tomorrow is just a lot funnier and easier to do. DDRAAAAAAAAAAMAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa SC2BW kills ESPORTS BW Ah, sorry, I don't support BW enough? Reductio ad absurdum is thoroughly unhelpful right now.
Yeah, in this our of desperation my kind of argumentation is throroughly unhelpful. What.
As L_Master pointed out, all that thing can do is raise awarness among SCII players, there's zero danger of players leaving. If you really think like that, you should also organize a witch hunt against BGH, Fun Map and Fastest players, because they don't play original Brood War. I can see the point that this is not really a good place to advertise a SCII Mod, but I also don't see how other topics like the CPU tournaments or Speed Hack Tours would fit terribly well, yet those are interesting to watch at times and were posted here - I didn't see you go mad in these.
Your entire posting reads like a bitter person aiming at someone who supported our scene for over ten years and continues to do so. How horrible it is that he thinks that this might be interesting to watch or play for fun for some Brood War users. Instead of pointing out that he'd probably do it more effeciently elsewhere, like in a supporting way, you fling insults. Understand, this tour is not sponsored by some desperate SCII fans that want to brag with their shiny new game just for the lulz, but by someone who just wanted to share his thing. Way to go.
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I'd recommend a title change for the thread to: Brood War Community Showing its Elitism.
With a less sarcastic tone let me address an issue here. SC2BW is a mod and it simply trying to establish a weekly tournament. You as a active participant in the Brood War community have a choice to participate or not. This mod isn't supposed to destroy or Brood War community nor would it be bad as a potential "add-on".
To even suggest that SC2BW would ever become popular with the current community is absolutely ridiculous. The people who frequent these forums are devote fanatics of this game to put it simply. Is this a bad thing? No. We like our brood war the way it is. I'd say to some degree static because the game is so damn perfect.
We have had Fighting Spirit on iCCup, Fish every standard tournament in the previous year. Before we start freaking out about a mod that will change the community forever let's expand our map pool first shall we?
Also think back why do you resent StarCraft 2 so badly? The imbalancement, death-ball mechanic, its not brood war HD or 2.0. Whatever your reason may be for not liking StarCraft 2 as a game should not be applied to SC2BW. Why? It's an entirely different game at this point. I'd recommend not subjecting your beliefs of StarCraft 2 onto SC2BW. Simple denial of this mod is silly.
If the reasoning was because you only want to play brood war that fine and a legitimate claim. Unfortunately simply because the mod runs on the SC2 engine a decent amount of the community will hate this mod for eternity.
So before a have a active, influential community member start using the F bomb toward this mod try it yourself. Are we too elite to try other peoples work? Didn't we want Brood War HD (source code of brood war thus running the same as it runs now but with updated graphics)? Did we forgot that goal?
It is a stretch to say SC2BW is Brood War HD. However could it hurt to give feedback to the mod creator to make it one-step closer to BW HD? The ultimate challenge our community faces?
I'll finish with: Don't knock it till you try it.
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Great! I hope I will be able to play this! I believe the creator of this - MavercK - is working his ass of for 3 (?) years now and should be welcomed at least not harshly xD
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NO UNLIMITED SELECTION
Please and thank you.
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yeah unlimited is not really cool.SUP NINOSTRA )))
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Once I read Jaevlaterran's comment, I knew I'd see L_Master or Pucca pop up since they play SC2/DotA.
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On February 07 2013 07:18 Game wrote:Once I read Jaevlaterran's comment, I knew I'd see L_Master or Pucca pop up since they play SC2/DotA.
O.O
Actually, I play neither of these games. Unless you count the 50 games I played in beta. Or the one game every other month I have averaged since then.
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On February 07 2013 07:22 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 07 2013 07:18 Game wrote:Once I read Jaevlaterran's comment, I knew I'd see L_Master or Pucca pop up since they play SC2/DotA. O.O Actually, I play neither of these games. Unless you count the 50 games I played in beta. Or the one game every other month I have averaged since then. K..
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I had some 10 seconds of blinding rage when I saw an SC2 thread on the Broodwar forums but after reading the comments I'm much calmer now.
Good luck with your tournment. I'm going to stick with Broodwar and getting decimated by smurf players on D/D+, thank you very much.
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how can you be so mad? he is just posting it for playing just for fun not to switch from BW to sc2, or Sc2BW. i think is a nice idea and there is nothing wrong that he posted it here, i dislike sc2, but i think this is nice. it's like those island tours, or random tours. it something to play not in a competitve way, it's just to have some fun. now i undesrtand why sc2 troll us so much, sometimes BW comunity is too sensitve.
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meh, I don't really care for this but I think it should be in the SC2 section not BW section
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Ok, I've been called bitter, resentful, and elitist so far. Anyone else? Come on, take a shot. Where are people getting elitist from??? Drop it, it's an inflammatory use of the word, and is irrelevant in describing my opinions. As are bitter, and resentful. Yet again, people are assuming they can read my mind, divine my underlying viewpoint as a stuck-up old BW-er from the dark ages, and hold me up for it.
You want my reasoning for being pissed off? I want to not be encroached upon. That's my reasoning. I want the scene, and my own experience of it, not to be encroached upon, which hasn't been the case for years now. I don't want to hear a single BW vs SC2/LOL/DOTA/ whatever argument from either side, nor do I want to argue with any of the people in this forum, any other forum.
To suggest that I want to squash everything that isn't competitive BroodWar because of a personal vendetta is yet another magnificent, and possibly even deliberate misinterpretation of the fact that I simply don't want my experience to be invaded, and have had it up to the eyeballs with hearing about things I or any of the BW community should be doing instead. I'm sick of people trying to pop up and educate me on possible things to "enhance" what I enjoy, as if I'm some useless savage clinging on to some old, elitist, outdated way because of a strange Luddite set of principles. I am perfectly well educated in my choices. Why does everyone think that they know what I should want, and try to give it to me on the assumption that I just don't know any better yet?
As far as I can tell, up until now, nobody has understood my reasoning. I want to make it perfectly clear- I don't hate you, or SC2 as a game. I hate Blizzard, but that's another story. I just hate the constant, endless treading on my toes, the lack of any sacred space and the lack of respect not to try and sell me something I don't want, in a place where I wish I could rely on some peace.
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ELEGANT HAS BEEN TRESPASSED! SUMMON THE BANELINGS!
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If you want a "sacred space" make one?
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Elegant with no disrespect: people defend things they like or perhaps want. When you said I was going to sign up, then realised that I'm fucked off that this is being posted in BW to take players, and that I couldn't give a single damn about anything SC2 related. Are Blizz and those dicks off The Pulse paying you or something?
"fuck" and "damn" are not words to be taken lightly they are swears for a reason. It also didn't help that you said "Are Blizz and those dicks off The Pulse paying you or something." It's not rocket science when someone insults another they often retaliate back.
You've dug into your own hole unfortunately. Your admiration for Brood War is terrific. Unfortunately in order to sustain peace their must be collaboration. You had an issue with the creation of this thread. If you wanted have peace like you said in your above: a place where I wish I could rely on some peace. You need to simply ignore this. The alternative is either shoot the OP a PM asking for the removal of the thread politely or just a reply. Don't go mouthing-off.
I don't need to be your mom. You get the point.
Simply turn your other cheek.
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Yea this should be in the SC2 tournament section because people are getting way too upset about this lol, it is just a custom map / " Mod " for SC2 to recreate BW through SC2's engine, it is not really a big deal and it doesn't really need to be taken anymore seriously than that....
It is kinda sad that whenever you put the words SC2 and BW together in the same sentence or thread, all hell breaks loose, infact I think that SC2BW should have a different name, like...BWSC2, instead of SC2BW, that has a better ring to it. This way all the people who play BW won't get offended because the BW is infront of the SC2 in the name.
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Does one need SC2 to be installed to play this? If yes, then BW forums is no place for this.
Why not just host a BW tournament.
Sc2 is garbage and always was.
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