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United States87 Posts
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The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
On August 25 2017 06:57 Beirut wrote: You guys see that player move his stasis units by worker drilling them up the ramp? Has that always been possible? It certainly looked odd, not sure if i have seen it before. Someone else who knows more about the game pls?! | ||
ii.blitzkrieg
Canada1122 Posts
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Qikz
United Kingdom12010 Posts
On August 25 2017 07:03 ii.blitzkrieg wrote: It has always been possible Holy shit. I need to remember to do that. | ||
NewbOnTheFloor
Poland160 Posts
They make viewers donate otherwise they wont cast bw again (wtf is this ???) They dont know players either.I mean come on , at least learn the fucking buildings names or players who joined Your tour(google, nice talent toi have). The lady seems allright I guess , but this dude gives so much negative attitude.She has some basic knowledge and She's not shitting on the game which She's casting. I don't mind SC2 casters making BW tours...Like Schamtoo.He wasnt perfect caster either but You could see him trying , learning every cast.He put his money into tours and didn't ask for anything in return. "We've expected Mana in finals" Wait what ? I'm Polish and i really hope Mana becomes top tier foreigner but at this point He's nowhere near top tier foreign players. He was lucky with bracket to get to semifinals...How can You expect player to go to finals becouse he's good at different game ?? Go cast Your SC2 torunaments and dont come back.. Allright , my frustration was spilled out.I accept the punishment for my post(I hope this will end with warning only ) User was warned for this post | ||
TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
On August 25 2017 07:29 NewbOnTheFloor wrote: This casting is a joke...There's a guy who constantly shits on BW.Both of them dont know the names of buldings ???? They make viewers donate otherwise they wont cast bw again (wtf is this ???) They dont know players either.I mean come on , at least learn the fucking buildings names or players who joined Your tour(google, nice talent toi have). The lady seems allright I guess , but this dude gives so much negative attitude.She has some basic knowledge and She's not shitting on the game which She's casting. I don't mind SC2 casters making BW tours...Like Schamtoo.He wasnt perfect caster either but You could see him trying , learning every cast.He put his money into tours and didn't ask for anything in return. "We've expected Mana in finals" Wait what ? I'm Polish and i really hope Mana becomes top tier foreigner but at this point He's nowhere near top tier foreign players. He was lucky with bracket to get to semifinals...How can You expect player to go to finals becouse he's good at different game ?? Go cast Your SC2 torunaments and dont come back.. Allright , my frustration was spilled out.I accept the punishment for my post(I hope this will end with warning only ) Careful your skating on thin ice with the last part, I understand and agree with the sentiment of your post, ZombieGrub did a great job casting and trying to understand the game although Rifkin is overall negative and biased caster as they come, I pretty much disliked Rifkin constantly bringing up SC2 in a BW tournament, although I guess a lot of the viewers were from SC2 so it was a good marketing "ploy" if you will....anyways, thanks for hosting the tournament regardless, please less talk about SC2 next time while you are casting games. gl hf gg. | ||
epicdoom
United States489 Posts
On August 25 2017 07:29 NewbOnTheFloor wrote: This casting is a joke...There's a guy who constantly shits on BW.Both of them dont know the names of buldings ???? They make viewers donate otherwise they wont cast bw again (wtf is this ???) They dont know players either.I mean come on , at least learn the fucking buildings names or players who joined Your tour(google, nice talent toi have). The lady seems allright I guess , but this dude gives so much negative attitude.She has some basic knowledge and She's not shitting on the game which She's casting. I don't mind SC2 casters making BW tours...Like Schamtoo.He wasnt perfect caster either but You could see him trying , learning every cast.He put his money into tours and didn't ask for anything in return. "We've expected Mana in finals" Wait what ? I'm Polish and i really hope Mana becomes top tier foreigner but at this point He's nowhere near top tier foreign players. He was lucky with bracket to get to semifinals...How can You expect player to go to finals becouse he's good at different game ?? Go cast Your SC2 torunaments and dont come back.. Allright , my frustration was spilled out.I accept the punishment for my post(I hope this will end with warning only ) I agree with all of this. Also not sure why half the semi commentary was just shitting on Scan. Additionally, wasn't entertaining or informative. People don't need to have Pro level commentary on the games, but dont BS the viewers. | ||
SchAmToo
United States1141 Posts
On August 25 2017 07:29 NewbOnTheFloor wrote: Go cast Your SC2 torunaments and dont come back.. Don't ever say that, please. They're taking a leap of faith to come cast some Brood War, and if this scene has taught me anything in my running my tournaments, it's very quick to kick people back "out" of the scene. Don't shove people away, give them your thoughts constructively and let them decide. Or don't, but either way you don't need to kick people out. We, as a scene and a community, should instead applaud them for doing a SC:Remastered tournament, and I'm happy for it. <3 | ||
SCC-Faust
United States3736 Posts
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Comedy
393 Posts
please consider working with schamtoo or something if you're interested in casting more bw | ||
207aicila
1236 Posts
On August 25 2017 07:54 SchAmToo wrote: Don't ever say that, please. They're taking a leap of faith to come cast some Brood War, and if this scene has taught me anything in my running my tournaments, it's very quick to kick people back "out" of the scene. Don't shove people away, give them your thoughts constructively and let them decide. Or don't, but either way you don't need to kick people out. We, as a scene and a community, should instead applaud them for doing a SC:Remastered tournament, and I'm happy for it. <3 I might be wrong since I don't know you personally, but you've always given me the impression that you're a better human being than Rifkin, and more professional. Rifkin has proven many times over the last 5 years in SC2 that he is very childish, arrogant and negative even when he is in the wrong and highly ignorant. If he's unwilling to improve then as far as I'm concerned I don't want him in the BW community. Money is good, but a tournament where the casters don't know the game and one of them is actively being negative and unabashedly ignorant is not something I'm interested in, and that's why I have stuck to MaNa and Scan's streams. Let me give two pro tips here: #1: Don't shit on the game you're casting. #2: Don't guilt and shame viewers into donating "otherwise we won't do another one", especially when you're trying to break into a previously established scene. Furthermore, don't act like your $100 online tournament is some kind of messiah of the scene and hold it to ransom with asking for donations in such a rude way. It's really easy not to fail at them. In fact I can't remember the last time someone failed both at the same time. | ||
BasetradeTV
Canada1307 Posts
I don't care that any of you don't like me (Rifkin), but what I do care is how non-constructive the replies in this thread are. If you want to complain, you can still do so in such a way that's helpful (example: the guy complaining about the camera, while in a very immature manner, made it clear that even though I enjoyed the super zoom out, the audience might not and could adjust accordingly). There's zero reason for us to continue creating content for entitled posters who think tournaments are free, and talent should be a certain way. EDIT: Regarding the "demand" for more money: | ||
207aicila
1236 Posts
Several complaints were brought up in chat, as well as implications from some of the replies in this thread, that it was terrible of us to 'demand' money to do more events. What? We have a budget that's been set for things such as SC2, so stating that we cannot (or, won't, depending on your biased interpretation) do more SC:R content without the money to do so is just a fact. Yes, and if you present this fact in a very rude fashion (on top of other rudeness towards the game in general), people will call you out on it. There's nothing wrong with asking for money, if you are nice about it and don't make it sound like you're guilt-tripping the viewers or holding your tournament for ransom or something. You need more content creators for SC:R, we (BaseTradeTV) don't need more SC:R content. Here you go again with your messiah complex. No. Don't tell us what you think we need. If you're going to be so confrontational and pretend like you're doing the BW community some kind of massive favour by running this small cup and casting it poorly, then don't let the door hit you on the way out buddy. You do this all the fucking time in SC2, you run tournaments and then deflect all criticism with "oh but it's technically monetarily successful" and "you need this more than we need it". Why are you such a child Rifkin? User was temp banned for this post. | ||
Klairg
13 Posts
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BasetradeTV
Canada1307 Posts
On August 25 2017 08:22 207aicila wrote: Yes, and if you present this fact in a very rude fashion (on top of other rudeness towards the game in general), people will call you out on it. There's nothing wrong with asking for money, if you are nice about it and don't make it sound like you're guilt-tripping the viewers or holding your tournament for ransom or something. Here you go again with your messiah complex. No. Don't tell us what you think we need. If you're going to be so confrontational and pretend like you're doing the BW community some kind of massive favour by running this small cup and casting it poorly, then don't let the door hit you on the way out buddy. You do this all the fucking time in SC2, you run tournaments and then deflect all criticism with "oh but it's technically monetarily successful" and "you need this more than we need it". Why are you such a child Rifkin? Alleged complex aside, prove me wrong? | ||
sertas
Sweden815 Posts
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207aicila
1236 Posts
Prove you wrong on what? I don't care that it makes you money. No one gives a fuck. You are the only one who gives a fuck because it's the only defense you have for your shortcomings. That's not the point. The point is people do not care about you as much as your zealous fanboys and Twitch money make you think. Do you realize you could use the money argument to rationalize anything, from Nickelback being an amazing band to Big Bang Theory being an amazing TV show or Donald Trump being an amazing businessman? BW community in particular is not gonna take your shit since you didn't follow BW, you are shitting on BW during your tournament cast and you are being a confrontational, unprofessional individual as always in our own fucking home. Just because your own fans seem to support you, doesn't mean that anyone other than that niche group of people NEEDS you. You are the one who is massively ignorant of the game and its scene here, you have shown disrespect during your cast, and still you are the one being condescending and acting like some high and mighty saviour? No thank you sir. | ||
[sc1f]eonzerg
Belgium6319 Posts
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BasetradeTV
Canada1307 Posts
On August 25 2017 08:29 207aicila wrote: Prove you wrong on what? I don't care that it makes you money. No one gives a fuck. You are the only one who gives a fuck because it's the only defense you have for your shortcomings. That's not the point. The point is people do not care about you as much as your zealous fanboys and Twitch money make you think. Do you realize you could use the money argument to rationalize anything, from Nickelback being an amazing band to Big Bang Theory being an amazing TV show or Donald Trump being an amazing businessman? BW community in particular is not gonna take your shit since you didn't follow BW, you are shitting on BW during your tournament cast and you are being a confrontational, unprofessional individual as always in our own fucking home. Just because your own fans seem to support you, doesn't mean that anyone other than that niche group of people NEEDS you. You are the one who is massively ignorant of the game and its scene here, you have shown disrespect during your cast, and still you are the one being condescending and acting like some high and mighty saviour? No thank you sir. Okay so to summarize: you have no rational argument, just simply don't like me, and are worried about me ruining "your" scene, is that correct? Just don't watch it then. I don't have to deal with an entitled twat, and you don't have to endure a content creator you don't enjoy. Not sure why you think lashing out on a forum will change that or make you feel any better? Regardless, I hope whatever it is going in your real life that's got you all worked up gets better so you can enjoy more things more often. PS. Please consider writing all of your thoughts out fully before mashing post, instead of constantly editing, it makes replying very difficult. | ||
207aicila
1236 Posts
On August 25 2017 08:36 BasetradeTV wrote: Okay so to summarize: you have no rational argument, just simply don't like me. TIL that "don't insult the game you are casting when you are trying to break into a new market" is not a rational argument. Well played Rifkin, you have proven your quality once more. I think your responses speak for themselves, I have nothing more that I want to show the court of public opinion. | ||
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