[ASL5] Ro16 Group B
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On April 03 2018 17:47 Ikirouta wrote: Should be hero and Stork, BeSt is about to get dumbstered. so you're saying BeSt will go the way of pusan? | ||
Qikz
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On April 03 2018 18:04 BLinD-RawR wrote: so you're saying BeSt will go the way of pusan? BeSt is gonna win the group. Watch this space. | ||
Ikirouta
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Yesterday I gave you stats about BeSts pvp and pvz being garbage atm and you still don't believe me ;_; | ||
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PVJ
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Snow is 60+% in both vP, vZ hero is 54% in vP Stork is 59% vP, 44% vZ Best is 43% vP, 45% vZ | ||
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On April 03 2018 18:24 PVJ wrote: Checked the vs. matchup spon stats for the last two months for each player. Snow is 60+% in both vP, vZ hero is 54% in vP Stork is 59% vP, 44% vZ Best is 43% vP, 45% vZ Stork has an insane record on 3rd world though. | ||
Arvendilin
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Since his match against Snow will be on 3rd World, he has a good chance of beating him, playing against hero will be difficult tho, and another match against Snow on a non-3rd world map will be difficult aswell :/ Still, gonna hope for the best and channel my power! I want BeSt aswell but he hasn't been playing that well recently, so I am fine with either hero or Snow tbh, the fact that Stork has improved so much recently is one of the main reasons I absolutely 100% need him to get out of this group! EDIT: I'm an idiot, I thought first match was gonna be third world | ||
Zariel
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Dinotoss and Hero to make it through | ||
PVJ
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Snow: v hero 12-11, v Stork 2-2, v Best 2-0 hero: v Stork 15-6, v Best 12-6 Stork: v Best 0-2 | ||
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Snow: Transi vZ - 62% / vP - 44%, 3rd vZ - 70% / vP - N/A, Gladi vZ - 51% / vP - 80% hero: Transi vP - 62%, 3rd vP - 44%, Gladi vP - 69% Stork: Transi vZ - 42% / vP - 58%, 3rd vZ - 52% / vP - 63%, Gladi vZ - 23% / vP - 30% Best: Transi vZ - 39% / vP - 56%, 3rd vZ - 53% / vP - 100%, Gladi vZ - 43% / vP - 0% | ||
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EDIT: I think it was a joke about him being shy around women, not about being gay | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:08 Breach_hu wrote: Hero will hydrabust everyone, let the trial of PvP begin! it's hunger games in the P community and Katniss Byung Goo volunteers as tribute | ||
PVJ
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On April 03 2018 19:10 Warfie wrote: it's hunger games in the P community and Katniss Byung Goo volunteers as tribute Does that mean Stork goes through or that he will fall? | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:11 PVJ wrote: Does that mean Stork goes through or that he will fall? it means he will have troubled romances with both flash and mind and receive strange gifts from his sponsors, jangbi and bisu | ||
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xccam
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On April 03 2018 19:17 Arvendilin wrote: Reavers on a non Island map in PvZ, idk What, reavers are common in PvZ. Maybe not as common as straight templar tech, but there are tonnes of examples of reaver games. | ||
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Zariel
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rip corsairs | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:18 xccam wrote: What, reavers are common in PvZ. Maybe not as common as straight templar tech, but there are tonnes of examples of reaver games. Sair Reaver on non-Island maps is much worse than doing the normal shit | ||
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xccam
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On April 03 2018 19:19 Arvendilin wrote: Sair Reaver on non-Island maps is much worse than doing the normal shit Sure, but I bet Best isn't very confident against Hero, and if he's been practicing a lot of reaver play on 3rd world and Sparkle it might be what he feels most comfortable in right now. Either way if you lose all the sairs like that it's bad. | ||
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EDIT: My stream is late obviously. | ||
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TaardadAiel
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Best needs goons now. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
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There's so much army to move, hero can't even micro them, and half the army die to storms and running past the protoss. | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:26 Zariel wrote: for some strange reason, best is doing far better than my expecations he's not gonna get a 4th tho, I think he's dead | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:28 Heartland wrote: I can't believe I saw Best outmacroed Word. But then again, hero is a beast. | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:28 Heartland wrote: I can't believe I saw Best outmacroed Seeing Best comit to a Sair heavy strategy you know something is wrong | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:31 Heartland wrote: What map order is it? Transistor - 3rd world - Gladiator | ||
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TaardadAiel
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On April 03 2018 19:31 Heartland wrote: What map order is it? Transistor for the first games, winner and loser on third world, final match on gladiator, I think | ||
Arvendilin
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On April 03 2018 19:31 Heartland wrote: What map order is it? First Transistor, then third world then Gladiator I think | ||
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Arvendilin
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Stork fiiightiiiing | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:33 Turbovolver wrote: Lots of bad Stork PvP memories... come on Song Byung Goo! Apparently he's >50% in the matchup in ASL >_> edit: Really hoping that Snow forgets dragoon range | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:35 Turbovolver wrote: Apparently he's >50% in the matchup in ASL >_> edit: Really hoping that Snow forgets dragoon range Haha, well ASL5's motto is `turn around` so it's time. Now or never! Go Dinotoss~~~~~ | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
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PVJ
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Can't remember a PvP on Transistor. | ||
xccam
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On April 03 2018 19:33 Turbovolver wrote: Lots of bad Stork PvP memories... come on Song Byung Goo! What? Stork's PvP was always great. There's a reason he was something like 12-8 against Bisu in the matchup. | ||
TaardadAiel
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On April 03 2018 19:37 Essbee wrote: hero is the luckiest player ever with his groups/opponents, isn't he? He got to pick, please don't forget that. Didn't he actually pick best? If he did, he certainly walked the walk today... And just what do you mean? | ||
Turbovolver
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On April 03 2018 19:39 xccam wrote: What? Stork's PvP was always great. There's a reason he was something like 12-8 against Bisu in the matchup. I didn't say it was bad, I just remember the pain of all those BO losses, having superior micro and still losing dragoon fights, how it is to be a fan ;_; | ||
PVJ
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On April 03 2018 19:39 xccam wrote: What? Stork's PvP was always great. There's a reason he was something like 12-8 against Bisu in the matchup. Yeah but the losses were/are painful. Besides the obvious missed range upgrade a more recent was ASL3 going 0-2 in Ro24. and ASL4 against Rain, which were matches he should've won. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
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On April 03 2018 19:45 Arvendilin wrote: Was the Discord Artosis is talking about the one by Faust? Or is there a different one I am not aware of? its the same discord | ||
mierin
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xccam
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Stork can still do it... | ||
PVJ
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ALMOST. God damn it. Almost. | ||
TheFoReveRwaR
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Turbovolver
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but that was pretty cool to be fair | ||
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On April 03 2018 19:53 RowdierBob wrote: Snow has been executing his builds really well this ASL. Not the most talented player in the tourney but making up for it with really clever, well executed builds. Snow is killing it right now. He's got the best PvP currently in the entirety of the world. | ||
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TaardadAiel
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Flood control delay edit: Hero's holding water in his mouth in the beginning of the game the way Flash does. Superstition? :D | ||
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Snow advances first?! | ||
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TheFoReveRwaR
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Archons don't do explosive. Also the archon had + 1. And scourge only have 25 hp. | ||
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xccam
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On April 03 2018 20:10 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: When a unit is on move away from a source of damage sometimes it will only take half damage. That's my explanation. Archons don't do splash. Also the archon had + 1. And scourge only have 25 hp. What. Archons do do splash. | ||
TheFoReveRwaR
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I meant to say explosive... Artosis said they do explosive...they do not. They do normal damage, with splash | ||
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PVJ
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Hero kicked the whole toss race into oblivion today | ||
xccam
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On April 03 2018 20:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote: I meant to say explosive... Artosis said they do explosive...they do not. They do normal damage, with splash Ah sorry, I'm not on English stream. The answer is yes, when things move away from splash damage they sometimes are away from the centre of the splash when the damage frame occurs, this is why lings sometimes survive mines when running away from them, and hydras sometimes survive reaver shots. | ||
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People think that other zergs would have a shot in a final against Flash, but Hero is the only zerg proving he deserves to go to finals based on offline play right now. | ||
BLinD-RawR
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On April 03 2018 20:18 bovienchien wrote: This Sunday, Group C won't competition. It'll happen April 15, 2018. But why? yes, this is already known | ||
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On April 03 2018 20:24 Jackal03 wrote: Sad that only one of stork/best is comming out, but i hope stork comes around and then gets the revenge against snow I want this so bad! | ||
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Jackal03
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stork | ||
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GTR
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week break for super tournament | ||
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TaardadAiel
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Really scrappy game, I'm somewhat disappointed. | ||
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xccam
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On April 03 2018 20:38 Jackal03 wrote: can stork still recover? No | ||
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stork | ||
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Qikz
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NOW BEAT SNOW, YOU CAN DO IT! | ||
elpolloloco31
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i hope Snow wins versus Best. he deserves it with his mastermind plan against stork 1st game | ||
PVJ
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On April 03 2018 20:45 PVJ wrote: I like both Best and Snow but I think Snow has a better chance in the Ro8. Agreed, but best is still a very good in PvP, hope this is a great game to close this group | ||
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On April 03 2018 20:54 Motivate wrote: i don't watch much pvp... is going DT against observer that much of a disadvantage? yes, you spend quite a lot of resources to go DT, with an observer counter you can have a much bigger army and have map control | ||
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On April 03 2018 20:56 TaardadAiel wrote: Snow's build is just right. Obs to defend versus auto-death vs dts and then back to three gates to abuse the reverse ramp. That's what I'm getting, at least. Yes. This Shuttle Flank to the 3rd is the only way out of it. | ||
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TaardadAiel
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On April 03 2018 20:57 PVJ wrote: Yes. This Shuttle Flank to the 3rd is the only way out of it. Snow obviously knew this and was wary of such moves. He's such a nice player, I feel born again. | ||
Dangermousecatdog
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Edit: Well that was close. Looks like he was conatined for too long. | ||
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Jackal03
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played really safe, got the grip of the victory and never let it go | ||
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On April 03 2018 21:02 razorsuKe wrote: Wait, fantasy ASL? where are they playing this? foreign BW discord | ||
Essbee
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Qikz
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Peeano
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On April 03 2018 21:05 Qikz wrote: Both my liquibets went out today. God damnit Hero T_T Why the hell would you vote against Hero in a full protoss group. Especially with Best historically being a free win for Zergs. | ||
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TaardadAiel
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And hero is certainly the guy to watch out for in this ASL. He didn't get second place last time simply because of luck. Unless the other zerg players have massively upgraded their mirrors, he's a potential finalist. I can't see any protoss, besides maybe Rain, that can eliminate him in the brackets. Oh, man, Rain vs Hero would be such a sexy match. | ||
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On April 03 2018 21:12 gravity wrote: What's this Super Tournament they're talking about? SC2: 2018 AfreecaTV GSL Super Tournament 1 | ||
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Xeln4g4
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User was warned for this post | ||
SCC-Faust
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On April 03 2018 23:36 Xeln4g4 wrote: This mu will always be a joke. They had to put an islands map to help P on this mu in this season. I'm pretty sure no one even gave PvZ a thought when they made the map considerations. Starlogg statistics represent Zerg as the lowest winrate race at almost every MMR distribution: https://starlog.gg/en/statistics/map-racial ASL 1 statistics: TvZ: 9-4 (69.2%) ZvP: 2-2 (50%) PvT: 12-5 (70.6%) ASL 2 statistics: TvZ: 8-11 (42.1%) ZvP: 5-13 (27.8%) PvT: 10-18 (35.7%) ASL 3 statistics: TvZ: 16-6 (72.7%) ZvP: 18-8 (69.2%) PvT: 6-7 (46.2%) ASL 4 statistics: TvZ: 6-7 (46.2%) ZvP: 11-10 (52.4%) PvT: 9-10 (47.4%) Also if you check the sponsored afreeca matches from the last half year, you can see overall Zerg struggled more with Terran than Protoss did with Zerg. Of course, if you want to ignore all the data, you can just take the ASL committee's word for it as they even held a conference on talks of how to prevent Flash from winning another ASL. Not to forget, the fact that you can just watch the games yourself and infer that these maps look good for Zerg, as was their intention. | ||
ShowTheLights
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For those of you who said "OMG ITS AMAZING TO SEE BEST GET OUTMACRO'D" its easy to out macro someone when you get 5 free bases due to a messed up map ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry just frustrated with these season and these maps | ||
hiro protagonist
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Like everyone else, I would like it if flash had at least a bit of a challenge, and stork could have put up a real challenge. Hoping he has to play rain or snow on the way to his eventual victory. | ||
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On April 04 2018 01:28 SCC-Faust wrote: Starlogg statistics represent Zerg as the lowest winrate race at almost every MMR distribution: https://starlog.gg/en/statistics/map-racial Wow, that is a super cool feature of starlogg! Did not know that it existed -- thanks a lot for pointing it out! I recommend everyone to check it out, it's super interesting + Show Spoiler + I always knew Protoss was an imba ez race! | ||
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_Animus_
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Also im pretty sure transistor will be graveyard for protoss in pvz, as it was the island map for TvZ. | ||
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StylishVODs
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Snow is no pushover on these maps though. | ||
TaardadAiel
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On April 04 2018 06:22 StylishVODs wrote: This is good for flash, Stork would have been a problem. Snow is no pushover on these maps though. Stork was a pale shadow of himself today. And yeah, Snow is pretty scary and there's a 1 in 3 chance that they'll meet in the Ro8. | ||
xccam
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On April 04 2018 03:10 ShowTheLights wrote: FUCK this fucking maps man Best played SO well on Transistor but hero just gets 5 free bases -.- For those of you who said "OMG ITS AMAZING TO SEE BEST GET OUTMACRO'D" its easy to out macro someone when you get 5 free bases due to a messed up map ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh sorry just frustrated with these season and these maps Best played well AFTER he lost half a dozen sairs to scourge and got really behind. If you think it was just the maps you are nuts. | ||
oxKnu
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Holy shit he's been on point in the last year. Damn! | ||
crbox
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ASL isn't in the "upcoming events" section, which is how i usually figure it out. herO played out of his freaking mind :O | ||
killer1nz
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April 15, 2018 - 19:00 KST Afreeca Starleague Season 5 | ||
crbox
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On April 04 2018 12:01 killer1nz wrote: Group C April 15, 2018 - 19:00 KST http://liquipedia.net/starcraft/Afreeca_Starleague_Season_5 ty | ||
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Essbee
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On April 04 2018 17:51 Angra wrote: "hero only won because of zvz" - teamliquid last ASL And zvp, I certainly don't deny the zvp | ||
Peeano
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On April 10 2018 12:08 reincremate wrote: Any recommended games besides Game 1? + Show Spoiler + Poll: Recommend Stork vs Snow Yes (19) If you have time (2) No (0) 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Snow Poll: Recommend Winner's Game? No (7) Yes (4) If you have time (2) 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game? Poll: Recommend Losers Game? Yes (13) No (1) If you have time (1) 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Game? Poll: Recommend Final Game? Yes (7) If you have time (3) No (1) 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Game? | ||
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On April 10 2018 15:11 Peeano wrote: + Show Spoiler + Poll: Recommend Stork vs Snow Yes (19) If you have time (2) No (0) 21 total votes Your vote: Recommend Stork vs Snow Poll: Recommend Winner's Game? No (7) Yes (4) If you have time (2) 13 total votes Your vote: Recommend Winner's Game? Poll: Recommend Losers Game? Yes (13) No (1) If you have time (1) 15 total votes Your vote: Recommend Losers Game? Poll: Recommend Final Game? Yes (7) If you have time (3) No (1) 11 total votes Your vote: Recommend Final Game? Thanks! Polls aren't on the first page. | ||
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