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My Predictions hero < Byzantium 3 > MovieI know that Movie has played some decent games against Jaedong in the last week but I am more impressed with by.hero and his ZvP. He has taken down Bisu more then once and looks really strong in that match-up. I would be surprised if Movie won this even though the map is Byzantium firebathero < Byzantium 3 > HyuNI've watched a lot of the games of FBH lately and I have not been impressed at all. I know above all that his TvZ is his best match up by far and I would like him to win. I just don't think FBH will. Is he capable of winning? The answer is clearly a yes and anyone who has seen his games against Jaedong and other decent Zergs, can attest to that. The real question that should be asked is: What type of game will he bring today? Will FBH bring his top game which is capable of winning against Jaedong and others or will he make sloppy mistakes and lose? What can I say about Hyun... Well, in all honesty, I don't watch Hyun a lot. I know he is capable of good play and capable of bad play and he hasn't been putting up amazing results lately either. I just think He is playing better then FBH now but either one of these 2 could advance to the winners Final. I want FBH but I think it will be Hyun. hero < Carthage 2 > HyuNZvZ. What can I say about that? Well I know that hyun recently beat hero in a ZvZ match and I know hero took a bad 3-0 beating from Jaedong a while back. Hero is 1-5 in ZvZ but I think that is deceiving since 3 of those losses are from Jaedong (Mr 80% and above ZvZ) himself. This could go anyway too. If the case that FBH beats Hyun then I hope that he would beat hero. That would be the result that would please me but Hero is no slouch and is an amazing Zerg and I wouldn't be surprised in him beating FBH especially seeing FBH's recent games. If Movie managed to get here by beating by.hero then I wouldn't be surprised with him going 2-0 and beating either Hyun or Firebathero. Lets not even talk about FBH vs Protoss lol HyuN advances 2-0 Bisu < Byzantium 3 > SaiRLOL? Bisu? Sair? Bisu easy. I don't think their is much to say about this. I cannot...CANNOT see Bisu losing to Sair unless he did it stork style (i.e 12 nexus vs bbs LOL). I think Bisu will rape Sair pretty easily. go.go < Byzantium 3 > CalmI really don't know what to type here. go.go has shown he can play pretty good TvT when needed but this isn't TvT so I guess that doesn't apply. His TvZ seems decent at best. Inter.Calm... What can I say about him? He is capable of both amazing games and 'meh' games. He is doing good in proleague and is in the top 15 when it comes to amound of wins. I was always kinda impressed with his ZvT and I think he will win this match-up rather easily. Bisu < Carthage 2 Calm> Although this is not Medusa where Bisu is 2-0 Calm, I still think Bisu is pretty strong against Zerg although he has loss to some players who I didn't think he would lose too. I don't need to remember last OSL/MSL. I could see Calm winning. I'm not saying its not possible. Bisu is only 4-3 versus Calm which shows that anything is capable of happening. I hope Bisu wins and I believe Bisu will win. Also, I could see it being Bisu versus go.go on this map and its Carthage so... Carthage PvT = Proxy into easy win so I would actually hope go.go beats calm so Bisu would have an easier way into MSL. Bisu advances 2-0 EASY! Recommended Games+ Show Spoiler +Results+ Show Spoiler +
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Baa?21242 Posts
By.hero fighting! MSL champion gogogo!
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some beastly groups :O I hope for: Group 11 - hero/Movie Group 12 - Bisu/SaiR
P.S. for consistency's sake you should include either all of the player's clan tags (By.Movie, Dream.t)HyuN, go.go[GsP]) or none, imo. obviously no biggie though.
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Great groups.
by.Hero and FBH for group 11 Bisu and Calm for group 12. Even though Byzantium is 9-1 TvZ go.go is crap and Calm can take him anyway
Bisu and Calm always have epic matches against each other! Should be awesome
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My predictions: hero fbh hero
bisu calm bisu
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On April 30 2009 08:37 littlechava wrote: some beastly groups :O I hope for: Group 11 - hero/Movie Group 12 - Bisu/SaiR
P.S. for consistency's sake you should include either all of the player's clan tags (By.Movie, Dream.t)HyuN, go.go[GsP]) or none, imo. obviously no biggie though. I just though that by.Hero/Inter.Calm and Bisu[Shield] are kinda well known but I keep it without any clan tags.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
Group 1 Hero or Movie if he's lucky
Group 2 Calm, fellow zerg, easy.
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Nice predictions Yaq attack.
hero is July's protege, so his ZvP is definitely going to be good. Calm has only lost two non-ZvZs since February. Bisu is Bisu. HyuN over FBH is risky, but I like it. HyuN over hero is reasonable, but if Movie makes it into the next match, I don't think he'll win on Carthage vZ. vT sure, he can proxy out FBH, but he's going to have a tough time if he has to play HyuN on the map. Bisu vs. Calm I'll give the favor to Calm.
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
I'm picking go.go and firebathero just because the map is Byzantium 3. Check out the stats. 9-1 TvZ 0_o
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On April 30 2009 09:35 3 Lions wrote: I'm picking go.go and firebathero just because the map is Byzantium 3. Check out the stats. 9-1 TvZ 0_o
I wonder why the stats are so bad for #3. Byzantium 1 and 2 were "normal" tvz balanced (around 60% in favor of T).
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On April 30 2009 09:35 3 Lions wrote: I'm picking go.go and firebathero just because the map is Byzantium 3. Check out the stats. 9-1 TvZ 0_o I can see that being a reason for FBH > Hyun since they are both at the same level. I just think FBH is playing badly lately but I think Calm would beat go.go regardless of the map.
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FBH and go.go for the 2-0.
I might get started on the other LR thread soon, but if anyone else wants it, just take it.
3 Lions: rofl I wouldn't have noticed I was at 4999 if you didn't say it
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3 Lions
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Realpenguin do it for a 5000th post.
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FBH and gogo are going to be in the winners games.
Why you might ask?
Because Byzantium 3 is 9-1 in TvZ. That includes a game were some no-name terran won over Jaedong. They are going to advance because the map is going to carry them thoughout the whole game.
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rooting for hero, Hyun, go.go and Bisu!
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by.hero calm advance
yes fan boy at its best
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I'm also sorry for the favoritism in the predictions but the Bisu fanboy in me cannot help it.
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By.hero for group 11 and Bisu for group 12.
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United States13896 Posts
I'm really really hoping for a Bisu/Calm PvZ on Carthage 2. Calm has been playing lights-out lately, and that would be a great game imo.
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I don't really think the 9-1 TvZ stats for Byzantium 3 are really representative as to how the actual map balance is. I mean, not much has changed on it, and past versions were 14-10, and 5-3. So it is T>Z there, but I don't think the actual balance is anywhere near 90%.
I mean, Byzantium 1 was 7-0 for PvZ. But if you look at both of the more recent versions, they have been have been split 50% in the win rate.
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Hero and CAlm will advance --
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On April 30 2009 11:36 Sentenal wrote: I don't really think the 9-1 TvZ stats for Byzantium 3 are really representative as to how the actual map balance is. I mean, not much has changed on it, and past versions were 14-10, and 5-3. So it is T>Z there, but I don't think the actual balance is anywhere near 90%.
I mean, Byzantium 1 was 7-0 for PvZ. But if you look at both of the more recent versions, they have been have been split 50% in the win rate. The thing that was crucial to byzantium 1's PvZ imbalance has been reimplemented, extra minerals in the main +expansions.
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What was the build order that Movie used in GOM game 3 against Jaedong?
Anyways, I don't see the games Movie plays being conventional this round.
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On April 30 2009 12:08 Avidkeystamper wrote:wow, epic fail
how is that fail? I would agree with his predictions
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On April 30 2009 14:26 Lucid90 wrote:how is that fail? I would agree with his predictions He placed the bold tags in the wrong spot, and out of the many ways to bold and TLPDize, only one procedure does that. I thought it was obvious.
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Bisu show 'em how it's done baby!
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On April 30 2009 12:08 Avidkeystamper wrote:wow, epic fail
not epic at all. just fail.
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On April 30 2009 12:08 Avidkeystamper wrote:wow, epic fail
then why don't you tell him how to do it moron
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On April 30 2009 15:50 freelander wrote:then why don't you tell him how to do it moron "Wait, someone said fail on the internet? Let's start calling him names!" I'm sure he knows how to do it, he just didn't realize. God, it's not like I'm making fun of a cripple.
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On April 30 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 11:36 Sentenal wrote: I don't really think the 9-1 TvZ stats for Byzantium 3 are really representative as to how the actual map balance is. I mean, not much has changed on it, and past versions were 14-10, and 5-3. So it is T>Z there, but I don't think the actual balance is anywhere near 90%.
I mean, Byzantium 1 was 7-0 for PvZ. But if you look at both of the more recent versions, they have been have been split 50% in the win rate. The thing that was crucial to byzantium 1's PvZ imbalance has been reimplemented, extra minerals in the main +expansions. They didn't change the minerals in the main. It is still at 9 patches. The nat and min only have the extra mineral patch. And an extra mineral patch in the nat/min only =/= game breaking. Maybe it will shift the the balance from 50/50, to like 60/40 maybe is true, but it hardly makes the map unwinnable, or even close to it. Like, its no Tears of the Moon.
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On April 30 2009 15:30 EvoChamber wrote:not epic at all. just fail.
Page 2 of this thread on the other hand, is an epic fail. That being said, I like the predictions. Go by.hero!
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On April 30 2009 17:34 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 30 2009 11:36 Sentenal wrote: I don't really think the 9-1 TvZ stats for Byzantium 3 are really representative as to how the actual map balance is. I mean, not much has changed on it, and past versions were 14-10, and 5-3. So it is T>Z there, but I don't think the actual balance is anywhere near 90%.
I mean, Byzantium 1 was 7-0 for PvZ. But if you look at both of the more recent versions, they have been have been split 50% in the win rate. The thing that was crucial to byzantium 1's PvZ imbalance has been reimplemented, extra minerals in the main +expansions. They didn't change the minerals in the main. It is still at 9 patches. The nat and min only have the extra mineral patch. And an extra mineral patch in the nat/min only =/= game breaking. Maybe it will shift the the balance from 50/50, to like 60/40 maybe is true, but it hardly makes the map unwinnable, or even close to it. Like, its no Tears of the Moon. I'm retarded, I got it backwards.
Byzantium 3 has reduced the number of mineral patches in the natural and mineral only by 1. Main has 9, Naturals have 6, Mineral Only 5.
Byzantium 2 had Main 9, Nat 7, Min Only 6.
Reducing Mineral patches helps Zerg, and hurts Protoss. Byzantium 3 is therefore more Zerg favored than Byzantium 2, which had an even 50/50 split for PvZ balance. I stand by my original post.
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it's working pretty good for me.
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Why is there no Liquibet available for this? Admins forgot?
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On April 30 2009 18:00 FirstBorn wrote:it's working pretty good for me. thanks
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On April 30 2009 17:59 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 17:34 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 30 2009 11:36 Sentenal wrote: I don't really think the 9-1 TvZ stats for Byzantium 3 are really representative as to how the actual map balance is. I mean, not much has changed on it, and past versions were 14-10, and 5-3. So it is T>Z there, but I don't think the actual balance is anywhere near 90%.
I mean, Byzantium 1 was 7-0 for PvZ. But if you look at both of the more recent versions, they have been have been split 50% in the win rate. The thing that was crucial to byzantium 1's PvZ imbalance has been reimplemented, extra minerals in the main +expansions. They didn't change the minerals in the main. It is still at 9 patches. The nat and min only have the extra mineral patch. And an extra mineral patch in the nat/min only =/= game breaking. Maybe it will shift the the balance from 50/50, to like 60/40 maybe is true, but it hardly makes the map unwinnable, or even close to it. Like, its no Tears of the Moon. I'm retarded, I got it backwards. Byzantium 3 has reduced the number of mineral patches in the natural and mineral only by 1. Main has 9, Naturals have 6, Mineral Only 5. Byzantium 2 had Main 9, Nat 7, Min Only 6. Reducing Mineral patches helps Zerg, and hurts Protoss. Byzantium 3 is therefore more Zerg favored than Byzantium 2, which had an even 50/50 split for PvZ balance. I stand by my original post.
Byzantium 3 has 9 main, nat 7 and min only 6 (plus 12,3,6 and 9 has now 7) So basically they reverted back to Byzantium 1.
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On April 30 2009 18:16 Too_MuchZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 17:59 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2009 17:34 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 30 2009 11:36 Sentenal wrote: I don't really think the 9-1 TvZ stats for Byzantium 3 are really representative as to how the actual map balance is. I mean, not much has changed on it, and past versions were 14-10, and 5-3. So it is T>Z there, but I don't think the actual balance is anywhere near 90%.
I mean, Byzantium 1 was 7-0 for PvZ. But if you look at both of the more recent versions, they have been have been split 50% in the win rate. The thing that was crucial to byzantium 1's PvZ imbalance has been reimplemented, extra minerals in the main +expansions. They didn't change the minerals in the main. It is still at 9 patches. The nat and min only have the extra mineral patch. And an extra mineral patch in the nat/min only =/= game breaking. Maybe it will shift the the balance from 50/50, to like 60/40 maybe is true, but it hardly makes the map unwinnable, or even close to it. Like, its no Tears of the Moon. I'm retarded, I got it backwards. Byzantium 3 has reduced the number of mineral patches in the natural and mineral only by 1. Main has 9, Naturals have 6, Mineral Only 5. Byzantium 2 had Main 9, Nat 7, Min Only 6. Reducing Mineral patches helps Zerg, and hurts Protoss. Byzantium 3 is therefore more Zerg favored than Byzantium 2, which had an even 50/50 split for PvZ balance. I stand by my original post. Byzantium 3 has 9 main, nat 7 and min only 6 (plus 12,3,6 and 9 has now 7) So basically they reverted back to Byzantium 1. I just opened up Starcraft, and looked at the maps when I made that post. So unless my Byzantium 2 and Byzantium 3 maps are reversely labeled, I had it right. Byzantium 3 has reduced mineral patches. If they are mislabeled, they need to fix that in TLPD, since I just downloaded both of them (not to mention the pictures in TLPD agree with me too).
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On April 30 2009 18:23 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 18:16 Too_MuchZerg wrote:On April 30 2009 17:59 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2009 17:34 Sentenal wrote:On April 30 2009 11:39 Avidkeystamper wrote:On April 30 2009 11:36 Sentenal wrote: I don't really think the 9-1 TvZ stats for Byzantium 3 are really representative as to how the actual map balance is. I mean, not much has changed on it, and past versions were 14-10, and 5-3. So it is T>Z there, but I don't think the actual balance is anywhere near 90%.
I mean, Byzantium 1 was 7-0 for PvZ. But if you look at both of the more recent versions, they have been have been split 50% in the win rate. The thing that was crucial to byzantium 1's PvZ imbalance has been reimplemented, extra minerals in the main +expansions. They didn't change the minerals in the main. It is still at 9 patches. The nat and min only have the extra mineral patch. And an extra mineral patch in the nat/min only =/= game breaking. Maybe it will shift the the balance from 50/50, to like 60/40 maybe is true, but it hardly makes the map unwinnable, or even close to it. Like, its no Tears of the Moon. I'm retarded, I got it backwards. Byzantium 3 has reduced the number of mineral patches in the natural and mineral only by 1. Main has 9, Naturals have 6, Mineral Only 5. Byzantium 2 had Main 9, Nat 7, Min Only 6. Reducing Mineral patches helps Zerg, and hurts Protoss. Byzantium 3 is therefore more Zerg favored than Byzantium 2, which had an even 50/50 split for PvZ balance. I stand by my original post. Byzantium 3 has 9 main, nat 7 and min only 6 (plus 12,3,6 and 9 has now 7) So basically they reverted back to Byzantium 1. I just opened up Starcraft, and looked at the maps when I made that post. So unless my Byzantium 2 and Byzantium 3 maps are reversely labeled, I had it right. Byzantium 3 has reduced mineral patches. If they are mislabeled, they need to fix that in TLPD, since I just downloaded both of them (not to mention the pictures in TLPD agree with me too).
Just watch MSL survivor and you will see who is right
TLPD is wrong this case... They have Byzantium 2.3 as Byzantium 3 which is wrong map.
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Anyone got a list of Mogulus mirrors etc?
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Baa?21242 Posts
By.Hero's MST stats vP: 2-0 100%. Woot? xD
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Game 1 is starting!
by.hero @ Top Left in Brown and Movie is @ Bottom left in yellow Protoss.
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Movie is sending a probe to his natural and makes a probe in his natural and scouts upwards and passes by.hero's ovi so they both know where each other are located.
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by.hero is trying to put down his pool (12 pool) but movie is delaying it with probe micro. He pretends to put a pool somewhere else and finally gets his pool down. Movie does a 14 forge in his natural and is unable to stop hero from making a hatch in his nat. Movie then makes a nexus in his nat and 1 cannon.
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On April 30 2009 18:03 meeple wrote:thanks
Okay, I just tuned in now and I doesn't work anymore
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by.hero has 6 lings out and is sending them to the natural of movie. Movie has 2 cannons warping and just started a gateway at his choke. by.hero puts a third @ the top middle.
Voters voted 80% hero and 20% movie.
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by.hero mining gas at his main and is teching too a lair and movie is getting a core. He has a zealot and is moving it out to test whether the lings have ling speed. He starts on a stargate in his main and takes his nats gas.
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is there a non chinese stream?
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by.hero places his spire at his nat and it looks like he is going into scourge --> 5 hatch hydra or whatever variation he chooses. Movie gets a probe out because hero didn't seem to be paying attention to his lings. The probe scouts the spire and 4th hatch. Movie out with his first sair. which should get some overlords.
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movie going out with 2 zeals and a goon. loses zeals instantly.
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1 overlord is down already and it seems that movie is going to transition into a dt drop because he has a robo + 2 gates and templar tech. Movie losses his BOTH HIS SAIRS TO SCOURGE. He tries to pressure with 2 zeals + 1 goon and losses both zeals. HE IS LOADING THE DTS INTO THE SHUTTLE.
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OMG drone massacre by hero DTs.
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The shuttle almsot gets hit by scourge and he gets the 2 dts into the main. This is really sloppy since he saw the shuttle so what else could it have been.
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Wow, DTs just destroyed that main.
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Commentator:GOGOGO Yes!I feel good seeign DTs killing drones.
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loved that chinese commentators 'go! go! go!' :D
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None of the streams work :/ Why no Daum?
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The dts get about 15 kills in total. Some of them drones + lings and are finally taken out. By.hero morphs 5 lurkers and movie is moving out with 6 zeals + 2 archons and makes a pylon at his 3rd expo. lings scout it and kills the probe. Movie losses his shuttle to scourge.
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On April 30 2009 18:48 rKos wrote: None of the streams work :/ Why no Daum? The Hanguo streams in the OP work, you just have to download the program/use IE.
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by.hero scouting with lings to see army size. I don't think hero has a ob out. Hero carelessly losing some lings and movie warping cannons in main/nat mineral line just in case. Movie out with obs and is pressuing hero's 4th.
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bad attack by movie on hero's fourth makes him lose all his zealots to lurkers due to bad positioning.
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movie attacking by.hero 4th. There is only 4 lurkers which he takes out and storms all the links. It looks like he is winning but by.hero reinforces with a ton of lings and lurkers.
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Movie is forced to retreat after losing most of his zeals and 1 archon. Movie adding more gates. Zerg is on 4 bases and toss is on 3.
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Movie is attacking top middle and losses his obs to scourge but their is only 1 lurker left and he kills it with storm. by.hero brings all his units and rapes all the goon/zeal easily and movie loses his entire army without doing any real damage. Movie with a shuttle out (I think storm drop)
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Invisigoon shooting from behind the extractor lol
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zealot drop killing of hero's pool!
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Wow, Zealot drop in the main snipes the spawning pool.
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haha i can understand the chinese commentator, scary
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Shuttle dlies by some scourge which are chilling and drops 4 zeals which take out the spapwning pool. by.hero scouts movie trying to take his 4th and kills the probe their. he sends another and makes a nexus. by.hero with a lot of lurker/hydra/ling
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Movie takes out By.heros 2nd gas expo, by.hero GGs.
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happy mother in the audience. :>
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Hero meets movie in the middle, and gets rolled. Movie gets the GG by going for the 12 expo.
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by.hero moving for an attack. Both army in the middle and by.hero carelessly loses about a group of hydra. They both engage and by.hero's army is out of position. He basically had 1/3 of it in the middle and it gets taken out easily. Movie attacking top middle with lots of goon/zeal/temp with 1 reaver. He takes it out and by.hero GG's
Movie > by.Hero @ Byzantium.
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Baa?21242 Posts
....FUck. Well that sucked =(
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Wow Movie is very very good.He just destroyed by.hero. Hero never had a chance to attack Movie's base due to him being so aggressive
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By.hero looks like he wants to cry so bad, meanwhile Movie getting a lot of love from his mom.
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Still long time till Bisu...
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Disappointing display by hero, his army control looked all over the place at times =/
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Why are Movie's fans all incredibly old women?
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Oh wow, Movie is so good vs zerg, I'm impressed.
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LOL Movie is embarrassed with his mum giving him lotsa love
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Byzantium is 9-1 for T vs Z, lets see if FBH without moustache is capable of losing there.
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by.Hero lost like 1/2 his army in the middle doing no damage. I don't understand why he was moving around with half and his army and not all of it -_-;;
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movie.. i just love that dude!
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yeah FBH looking pumped up
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On April 30 2009 18:57 Yaqoob wrote: by.Hero lost like 1/2 his army in the middle doing no damage. I don't understand why he was moving around with half and his army and not all of it -_-;;
Well first he lost a lot of drones to DT drop and his 12 lings did so much delaying protoss push that he got eco back almost to match protoss eco. Then he tried to control middle / push movies 6 clock expansion but was just macroing as it happened and after that he had no chance to win :D
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Second game should start any moment.
I swear this chinesse commentator is drunk.
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On April 30 2009 18:56 Itachii wrote: Byzantium is 9-1 for T vs Z, lets see if FBH without moustache is capable of losing there.
Well its 10-2 but who is counting
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Yup 10-2,see in earlier group
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On April 30 2009 18:57 Yaqoob wrote: by.Hero lost like 1/2 his army in the middle doing no damage. I don't understand why he was moving around with half and his army and not all of it -_-;; He did similar things earlier, he left 3-5 of his drones behind even after moving the rest away from the initial dt harass, making him lose that much more mining capacity.
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On April 30 2009 19:05 FirstBorn wrote: Second game should start any moment.
I swear this chinesse commentator is drunk. Drunk/stoned/messed up in every possible way
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Hyun @ Top Right and FBH @ Bottom Right.
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Hyun sending a early drone scout and scouting cross map and makes a 12 hatch @ his natural FBH getting a rax and gas in his main.
78% for FBH 22% for Hyun.
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FBH is making his factory right beside his natural and he builds a refinery a spilt second before hyun is going to take it forcing him to take his naturals gas
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3rax after 1st vult, will be interesting
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FBH scv is still alive and 2 lings are chasing it. He scouts the 3rd hatchery in the natural and loses his scv. He has 1 vult out and is making a CC in his main and adds a 2nd and 3rd rax.
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2 lings scout the CC @ the nat but FBH takes them out with vult. Hyun has a sunk and is getting lair and made a hydra den in his nat. FBH is maynarding his scvs and is getting an academy. Hyun places a spire in his main after his lair completes.
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Hyun sends 2 more lings to scout but are again killed by the vult before seeing FBH's tech.
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Hero vulture denies Hyun's scouting lings
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FBH moving out with 1 group of m&M and is researching stim and hyun only has 2 hydra nd 1 sunken LOL
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gg, totally fooled by FBH.
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FBH attacks and takes out both sunkens and stim finishes right as the mutas hatch. Mutas are out and are trying their best to kill the marines but are not killing them all. Hyun with about 8 lings out and they die too.
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Why didn't he use the drones to help defend?
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That was an impressive game from FBH. He just rolled him.
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FBH adding a 4th and 5th rax and Hyun losses a hatch in his nat and gg's and Yaqoob fails at predictions...
FBH > Hyun @ Byzantium.
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BBS comming in the next match, theres no way he will play standard vs Movie.
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Lol this should be interesting
by interesting i mean a one-sided rape of FBH
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woot movie and fbh is gonna be interesting
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On April 30 2009 19:19 Itachii wrote: BBS comming in the next match, theres no way he will play standard vs Movie.
Either that or some weird timing push. Gonna be interesting nonetheless.
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BBS, or 2fac where I fac is proxied.
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Firebathero @ Top Left and Movie at Bottom Right. Movie is sending out a very very early probe.
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Gonna be a proxy gate from Movie lol.
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i think fbh is gonna wall in
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Movie makes a pylon at top 4 right above the ramp to the expo. FBH makes a supply in his natural. Movie makes 1 gateway and is taking his gas in his main. He then makes a core near his proxy gateway.
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lol, I remembered FBH's MSL run, and my enemy a while ago. They always went 2fac against Protoss...
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LOL fbh lifted rax and movie scout just barely got through
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FBH walls in and lifts his barracks to send out a scouting scv the exact same time movie sends his probe and movie gets his probe inside FBH base. Movie makes a zeal from the proxy gateway and the core is not spinning atm.
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FBH scounts nothing in the protoss main and starts on a bunker behind his supply depot. It looks like movie is getting range. Movie with 2 goons/1 zeal out hitting on the supply depot.
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FBH is scouting the map for the proxy gateway and a goon kils the scouting scv. FBH has siege and is making a cc in his main while movie makes a nexus at his nat.
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Movie is getting a robo in his nat and places a scotuing pylon @ the expo below FBH's main.
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FBH's CC is almost done and his ebay is finished. Movie is transfering probes to his nexus and makes a observatory. Movie scouts the floating CC.
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Movie takes a 3rd and has 2 gates in his main + 1 proxy gateway. I don't know if he is still making units from his proxy gateways. FBH with 2 facts. It looks like he is upgrading speed since he has 3-4 vults chilling in his main. Movie getting support bay.
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FBH snipes a probe with his vults and movie blocks ramps with his goons and vults don't get to kill anything. FBH placing mines around the map and takes 4 tanks to kill the proxy gateway. Movie remaking his core in his main. FBH making another CC in his main and adding his 3rd and 4th factory + academy.
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now thats called failure. ROFL
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Movie with 2 shuttles. I think he will be getting speed for them. FBH getting a starport and the 2 shuttles moving towards FBH main. They now have speed.
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The drop gets some scvs but he losses both shuttles and the reaver and all the zealots. He is now teching and has an arbiter tribunal.
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Movie is taking his 4th and both are just sitting and macroing up. Movie with 6-7 gateways and has goons romaing the map taking out mines. 2 vults get inside the main of movie and snipe 1 temp + 3 oprobes before dying.
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Any VLC/mogulus/ustream stream?
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Movie is really sloppy this game..losing another shuttle
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Movie moving with a speed shuttle to the 3rd of FBH but FBH has turrets and about 4 Goliaths there. He losses the shuttle without doing anything with it. FBH is content to sick back and macro and is getting a 4th CC.
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Totally ineffective proxy into totally ineffective dual shuttle reaver drop... and now he loses another shuttle +_+
Practically giving the game to FBH at this point surely
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Movie has hiis first arbiter out and now is pumping 2 stargate arbiters and has added about an extra 4-5 gateways. FBH getting vessels + emp. Movie is taking a 5th and he killed one of the temples in the middle.
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Movie is clearing the mines which FBH placed outside the broken temple. FBH sieges near his 4th and Movie movies in with a huge army. He must have 3-0 zeals. he gets off a good statis and gets 4 tanks and has some good storms but FBH just has way too many units and holds it off pretty easily. I don't see movie winning this game.
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It looks like movie is going for a recall and fbh is making turrets @ middle right. Movie sends some zeals to kill the turrets but vults take them out. FBH taking a 5th.
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any stream link plz (apart from op)
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Movie brings his army and clears out the turrets and then brings his arbiter for a recall it seems. It passes by like 12 vults and he recalls into top right expo. I think he gets the expo and then does another recall into the natural of FBH and losses his arbiter and his whole army and fails at taking it out.
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omg 2 recalls consecutively beautifully executed.wow Movie
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FBH is just sitting back and doing nothing while MOvie just masses and keeps recalling over the place. He goes to recall the terran main but he gets emp'd.
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FBH's late game vs P is really bad :/
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FBH really needs to work on spreading his tanks. He's been susceptible to stasis and storm all game.
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FBH moves part of his army near the middle right and movie engages. 1 of his arbiter gets emp'd but he gets off a statis and gets 6 tanks. FBH reinforces but its not enoght and they both end up losing both their armies. MOVIE DOES A RECALL TO TOP RIGHT WITH MOSTLY ZEALOTS BUT STOPS MINING THERE.
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Movie losing wayyy too many units too fast though
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I don't believe FBH is letting this happen. He had such a big eco lead and army lead early on but is sitting back doing nothing.
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On April 30 2009 19:50 Itachii wrote: FBH's late game vs P is really bad :/
Yeah, he did a good job of macroing through the mid game, and should have been ahead after Movie's proxy failed. If he loses he's going to look back on this one as a wasted opportunity.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
Beautiful recalls, no preparation, no resistance from FBH. He had so many expansions.
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FBH clears out all the units @ the top right expo without losing much. Both are gathering their units. FBH placing alot of mines in the middle right and movie is attacking at middle left.
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ANOTHER STASIS ON CLUMPED TANKS. AWFUL. At least FBH finally attacked, wiping out one expo.
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Movie gets off some decent statis and storms but doesn't have enough units to break FBH. FBH losses 5 tanks for nothing. MOvie attacking top right with a small army and losses most of it and is forced to back off. Movie sending another small army to middle left expansion but fbh defends it eassily but losses some scvs in the process.
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Movie going for another recall in top right and FBH sees it but still losses his top right expo becuase movie statis the only tanks that are there.
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sounds like a back and forth game
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MOVIE WITH ANOTHER RECALL @ Middle left and he takes out another CC. FBH is falling apart. HE has not attacked movie once this game. He has just been defending.
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FBH is too passive..with a bit of aggression he would have ended this much faster..
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movie's lategame pvt is quite entertaining. very aggressive.
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Movie is expanding to middle right and FBH is content with sitting around doing nothing with his army.
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Frozen arbiter in the middle, yeah!
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Movie's got 6 bases, but 1 is dry and 3 others are running low. He needs to get the 2, but FBH has been defending well.OH GOD ANOTHER SICK STASIS BY MOVIE.
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Wow FBH you let 3/4 of your tanks get statis..
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Movie is attacking into FBH's 4th and gets off some amazing statis and gets about 9 tanks but doesn't have enough units to take it out and loses his army and is forced back.
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in my honest opinion FBH should take this... typical terran money efficient units
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Just a matter of time before Fbh ggs..there's no way he's coming back
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Ok wait now FBH starts being aggressive =/
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FBH moving his army around and movie recalls again to middle left but their are tanks their and movie losses all his units but goets a storm off on scvs.
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I think FBH doesn't want to win....
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On April 30 2009 20:00 SuperArc wrote: How are upgrades? 2/3 FBH 2/1/3 Movie
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On April 30 2009 19:59 Mista wrote: Just a matter of time before Fbh ggs..there's no way he's coming back
On April 30 2009 19:59 snapcrackle wrote: in my honest opinion FBH should take this... typical terran money efficient units
hmm.. sounds like a nice game ;P
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stasis again !!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Think 2-3 and 3-1-3. And +1 air attack.
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I think FBH going to win this one, more minerals left than movie has
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FBH can actually take this, Movie's running dry soon. But he needs to get his hist together finally and push into his last ming expo~
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FBH almost takes out middle right (or perhaps he did) and Movie defends with his arbiter but losses all his army and is forced back. He did lose middle right. I think movie only has 1 mining base. FBH just defending and being passive might actually win him the game. Movie goes to recall middle left but his arbiter gets emp'd
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seems that no matter how many recalls are made to damage the eco.. terran tanks are too good
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Movie has like 8 arbiters and he sends in another arbiter to recall middle left but it gets emp'd also.
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Movie only has 1 expo mining and fbh has taken middle right. Their are no remaining bases on the map.
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On April 30 2009 20:02 snapcrackle wrote: seems that no matter how many recalls are made to damage the eco.. terran tanks are too good Yeah, Movie's down to about 1 base, and terran has a much larger army.
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Why the hell FBH is always out of position
seriously wtf
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Damn, FBH doesn't deserve to win. Failed reaver harass hurt movie a lot...
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gg by Movie... yup .. been there done that. Nice game... back and forth but if you really analyze it FBH was never behind
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Movie statis some tanks @ the middle right and is tryint to break it. I was wrong. FBH hasn't placed a CC yet. He is just defending there so movie cannot take it. MOvie takes out a bunch of units but FBH army is just too big and he is pushed back yet again. Movie is soon going to run out of minerals. If FBH can take middle right he wins the game. MOVIE ATTACKING INTO MIDDLE RIGHT. He gets some decent storms off but doesn't ahve enough units.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
JESUS CHRIST FBH FUCKING MIRACLE WIN
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SERIOUSLY WTF. FBH the Persistent Terran? :D
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HAHAHA FBH wins a TvP HAHAHA my day is gonna be great!
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movie throws away the last of his units in a final attempt on the 3 o'clock, firebathero finally moves into the other side of the map... movie ggs it really doesn't feel like firebathero actually "won" the game
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On April 30 2009 20:05 Magic84 wrote: Damn, FBH doesn't deserve to win. Failed reaver harass hurt movie a lot... I think it was more of attacking with entire armies and only killing about 1/5th of what he was losing.
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FBH finally attacking towards the remaing base of Movie and movie doesn't have enough units to defend and he gg's
FBH > Movie @ Catharge
I am 0-3 for predictions. I even predicted that movie would rape FBH if it was a FBH vs Movie finals
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FBH had luck on his side i wanted FBH to win but damn Movie's PvT late game is just so awesome the recalls and non-stop action !
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Game summary:
FBH wanted to go 2 fac but proxy cut him short. He plays passively, waiting for movie to run dry. FBH wins.
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FBH had good defense, and movie did a damn good job attacking. Very entertaining game.
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Give movie credit for his late game: he was trailing the entire game after the failed proxy, and his reaver drops were pure fail. Still, he never stopped pressuring FBH. He threw everything he had into the late game, tons of great recall and statises.
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On April 30 2009 20:06 Fredflintstone wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 20:05 Magic84 wrote: Damn, FBH doesn't deserve to win. Failed reaver harass hurt movie a lot... I think it was more of attacking with entire armies and only killing about 1/5th of what he was losing. QFT
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On April 30 2009 19:59 Mista wrote: Just a matter of time before Fbh ggs..there's no way he's coming back
:D
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Well that was basic thing. Protoss got his "side" of expansions then terran defended one less expansion and protoss dried out.
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I guess all movie fails at is micro?
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I can't believe Movie actually lost that game. FBH played great and made a pretty unexpected comeback, props to him.
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This is like the exceptional game in which FBH's lack of timing sense in TvP actually wins him the game. That was some epic rope-a-dope.
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Some fun guaranteed for MSL Group Selection.
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moooovie! noooo
i ate popcorn watching you
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This was strange, FBH's strong eco was constantly getting raped by recalls, any attempt to push was stopped by stasis and storms, but he still somehow macroed his ass off and won. I guess all these recalls and attempts to snipe expos costed Movie too much, even if they were effective. Strange game nevertheless.
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On April 30 2009 20:07 EvoChamber wrote: This is like the exceptional game in which FBH's lack of timing sense in TvP actually wins him the game. That was some epic rope-a-dope.
Sad but true.
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disappointing, in terms of game value movie rapes fbh, fbh is only slightly entertaining after games.
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I think movie would've been better off recalling into FBH's main, losing factories would slow FBH down much more than losing his CC 8x.
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On April 30 2009 20:08 Itachii wrote: This was strange, FBH's strong eco was constantly getting raped by recalls, any attempt to push was stopped by stasis and storms, but he still somehow macroed his ass off and won. I guess all these recalls and attempts to snipe expos costed Movie too much, even if they were effective. Strange game nevertheless. the thing is FBH kept losing 1 CC at a time with around maybe 5-6 scv's and a hadful of vultures. Meanwhile Movie would lose 1-2 arbiters... 10 zealots and 5 dragoons after that. After each one of his drops movie ignored those recalled units not even trying to kill any of FBH's or save them (many arbiters were lost due to straight up ignoring them after the recall)
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I really question Movie's decision to proxy open. FBH is terrible against standard protoss play, there's no reason to try anything else.
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I'm surprised there wasn't a ceremony. I was so hyped and all it was was this little bow.
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Never played on this map but doesn't it have notoriouisly long distances? How do you criticize FBH for not pushing when he pretty much would've gotten run over if he spread his army too thin?
And it seemed to me Movie's recalls weren't all that great at all. He was losing a ton of minerals. And although he kept killing CCs, FBH's 4 bases(against I think 6 from Movie) lasted the whole game because he barely lost much of his army taking out the recalls.
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On April 30 2009 20:11 EvoChamber wrote: I'm surprised there wasn't a ceremony. I was so hyped and all it was was this little bow. If only he had beat savior ><
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Now, we move on to the games that I have been waiting for all night to happen.
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to the OP(s) why in the MSL results do you write "... advances 2-0" in the results, when that is the only possible score?
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wtf i just noticed www.plu.cn copied TL.nets race icons rofl
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Bisu looks pretty confident, he better beat this other guy.
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Sair @ Top Left in Yellow and Bisu @ Top Right in Brown.
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so FBH's strat was to let Movie make his own mistakes hmmm? hehe ^^
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95% for Bisu 5% for Sair
LOL
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5%??
Some people are crazy!!
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Bisu going with a normal build so far with a 13/14 core in his main and sair scouts bisu first. Bisu scouts bottom right first.
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any streams without the chinese voice-over?
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On April 30 2009 20:11 EvoChamber wrote: I'm surprised there wasn't a ceremony. I was so hyped and all it was was this little bow. It's forbidden nowadays. :x
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Bisu gets out a zeal and its chasing around the zeal. Bisu will scout by.sair last. Bisu seems to be upgrading range and is sending his zeal towards the terran main now.
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Bisu kills the scv in his main and sair has 4 marines + 1 scv on his ramp. Bisu is making a second gateway in his main.
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Sair has 6 marines and 2 tanks at his natural and Bisu scouts that and Bisu takes his natural. Sair attacking the 4 goons/1 zeal of Bisu and Bisu micro's back and only losses his zealot. Sair takes his natural and places mind infront of his natural. Bisu's natural is finished and he is making a robo in his main.
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Bisu kills some scouting vults and is making a robotics support bay + observatory. Sair adding his 2nd and 3rd fact and then getting his ebay.
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Sair moving outh with 5 tanks across the map and Bisu is just taking his 3rd.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
rofl my stream was looping like 30seconds of Bisu stats before i realised it was stuck
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the 5 tanks meet the 2 goons guarding Bisu's 3rd @ 3 o'clock and move back and sair retreats his army. Sair takes a hidden expo at bottom left. Sair now taking his 3/rd4th base outside his nat.
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Sair taking an expo at the other main, just like Fantasy in the OSL semis.
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who has the lead?my stream died
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Bisu clearing mines in the center of the map and trying to scout sair's main with an ob. Sair kills 2 probes that are randomly moving around the map.
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I hope Bisu is going to find that hidden cc ~
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Bisu still hasn't taken a 4th base. He is just massing alot of goon zeal and teching to arbiters.
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Bisu takes a 4th near middle right and sair scouts it with 2 vults. Bisu clearing mines in top middle.
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Bisu with alot of zealots outside his natural and Bisu seems to be doing a very good job in dealing wit vulture harass but has not scouted Sair's hidden expo yet.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
What a storm on a clump, beautiful
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thanks for the LR Yaqoob, keep it up
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fucking wow, he rapes his 3rd like nothing, and he still doesn't know about his bottom left.
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Bisu taking a 5th expo @ bottom left's natural. and kills about 4-5 vults of sair. Bisu making an attack at sairs 3rd and gets off some amazing storms on sairs tanks. Bisu just has too many units and a cannon complets in time to defend agaisnt a vult drop in the main of bisu.
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BISU TAKES DOWN THE 3rd of Sair but he still doesn't know about his hidden expo. Sair clears out the remaning units of bisu and kills the arbiter. Bisu with 12+ gateways. Bisu is doing amazing with getting map control and stopping vult harass.
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Anyone streaming this on mogolus or something? Cuz non of the stuff on the front page works for me
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Sair sends a group of vult to harass and it is again stopped by bisu. Sair unsieiging and moving across the map and forcing bisu back. Bisu loses alot of his units to mines and vults.
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On April 30 2009 20:38 Oystein wrote:Anyone streaming this on mogolus or something? Cuz non of the stuff on the front page works for me
I second that
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Even though Bisu lost a group of goons for nothing he still manages to take out alot of sairs army. He now clears sairs reinforcements and suroons the 5 tanks that he just came out from statis.
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Bisu attacking into the 3rd of Bisu. Sair gets off a decent emp on Bisu's arbiters and Bisu is forced back. Bisu kills the building CC @ top middle with 2 zealots. Bisu attacking middle left with a small army.
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Damn why hasn't bisu located the hidden expo of SaiR yet T_T
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Bisu retreating his arbiters. It looks like he would scout the extra expo fo sair but he stops his arbiters in the natural and doesn't scout it. Both have decent armies.
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I downloaded UUplayer thingie and the plu stream works for me now.
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On April 30 2009 20:42 Mista wrote: Damn why hasn't bisu located the hidden expo of SaiR yet T_T he did now, Sair's about to get raped
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Someone slap Bisu for not scouting the base at 7...
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Bisu has taken the main @ bottom right. Bisu attacking into the 3rd of sair and losses alot of units to mines. Very sloppy attack by bisu. he losses alot of units for nothing and sair regroups so he can attack now.
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none of the streams are working
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Bisu is sending a zealot to bottom left and he scouts the hidden expo finally !!!!
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FINALLY BISU SPOTS IT.And fangirls going crazy
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any stream guys? mogulus or with the chinese guy?
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Bisu movies his army their and sair retreats all his scvs. sair bringing his army their and mining up the way out. Meanwhile, Bisu recalls and kills middle left at the same time.
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by.Sair has alot of tanks but Bisu has about 20 gateways now. Sair moving out towards the middle of the map. and Bisu still has a bunch of units on bottom left. I think he recalled them now or is going to recall them.
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I like the word "Meanwhile" when it comes to a game with Bisu
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Bisu has an arbiter firing on the in middle left and sair retreats his scvs. He later brings them back and emp's the arbiters. Bisu sending another arbiter to recall but sair is their with his whole army and the recall does no damage but meanwhile Bisu kills the expo in top middle and recalls in sairs main.
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Excellent usage of recall, Sair is running from one expo to another trying to save it.
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damn Bisu's multitasking is out of this world.
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Sair is losing all his factories and Sair is now moving out. he has to kill bisu now or he losses but bisu has so many gateways + bases.
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hey disciple. sup? any streams working for u?
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Sair is killing the natural at bottom right and is bring back all his army as bisu kills his last expo. Bisu is killing all his supplies and factories and Bisu attacks uphill against Sairs tanks and losses alot of zeals but I don't think it matters lol.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
reminds me of backho vs piano
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On April 30 2009 20:46 disciple wrote: I like the word "Meanwhile" when it comes to a game with Bisu +1
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Sair has like 4 supply depots left in his main LOL. It will be a long time before he can remake his army. Bisu chasing 3 tanks with 4 dts LOL and sair is retreating the tanks. Sair puts dematrix one of the tanks and takes out bisu expo @ bottom middle.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
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Oh wow, really slick move to end the game.
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On April 30 2009 20:47 Dr.Green wrote: hey disciple. sup? any streams working for u? nm, mate trying to make some stream going but with no success. I guess I will stick to the awesome LR in this thread... On a side note, try installing usee or whatsitsname and http://live.plu.cn/hanguo/ should work, at least for some ppl here
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Bad idea to siege those tanks...
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Lol SaiR left with basically nothing at all
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Sair now bring all his army to bottom right and bisu recalls his army their and clears out Sair's army and sair gg's
Bisu > Sair @ Byzantium
김택용 Fighting!
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Wow, that's like four good games in a row.
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On April 30 2009 20:51 disciple wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 20:47 Dr.Green wrote: hey disciple. sup? any streams working for u? nm, mate trying to make some stream going but with no success. I guess I will stick to the awesome LR in this thread... On a side note, try installing usee or whatsitsname and http://live.plu.cn/hanguo/ should work, at least for some ppl here
alright! thanks
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I'm gonna have to root for go.go here.. Bisu is so inconsistent with zergs nowadays
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On April 30 2009 20:50 Magic84 wrote: finally ...the rock has comeback to monday night RAW?
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Calm is on a 7game win streak vP, so for Bisu's sake, go.go should better win
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On April 30 2009 20:58 dt4ever wrote:Calm is on a 7game win streak vP, so for Bisu's sake, go.go should better win but the only really good Protoss that he has beat in those 7 games has been jangbi.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
On April 30 2009 20:54 disciple wrote:...the rock has comeback to monday night RAW? Bisu had advantage the whole game and finally ended it. Cool storms and recall to factories what did it for him.
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Russian Federation1381 Posts
I wish calm survives awful byzantium
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Commentator yawned so loud he should go to sleep.
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go.go @ Top Left and calm @ bottom Right.
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go.go making his barracks and supply below his ramp and calm making a 12 hatch at his natural and then scouting with his drone.
34% for go.go 66% for calm.
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go.go deters the scouting drone of calm with a single marine and makes a cc at his nat and then takes his gas. calm has 2 lings out and go.go scouted the morping lair at calms nat. calm is chasing the scv and now has 4 lings out and kills the scv.
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wtf.Is go.go actually uskign make-up ?!
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go.go making an academy and a factory in his main. he also is making a bunker in his natural. Calm is going lurkers it seems and is pressuing with 3 lings but go.go gets a scv scout out and might get into the main. calm denies access to his main but I think he saw the hydra that came out from the natural hatch. calm expanding to middle right.
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Calm is morphing 3 lurkers and go.go is making a 2nd bunker in his natural and a turret.
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Calm attcking with about 15 lings and 4 lurkers and I think he is going to break into the natural. 1 bunker is down but the tanke comes out with seige and go.go repairs and he barely holds. some lings take out one of the tanks but another comes out right after.
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calm with a bunch of linfs stopping scouting scvs and is now massing drones. go.go with 1 wraith out and is taking out the ovi near his main.
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On April 30 2009 21:13 Mista wrote: wtf.Is go.go actually uskign make-up ?!
everyone goes through make up/hairstylist no exceptions.
unless you're shine[kal] and it won't make a lick of difference. that kind of ugly is simply impervious to any sort of concealement except two feet of industrial strength concrete.
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congrats on the DT icon
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Calms spire is half complete and he made 1 sair to stop the wraith and is making a evo chamber and gas at his 3rd. go.go comes in with 2 vults and gets 2 drones and then goes in the main and takes out 5-6 more with the 2 vults + 1 wraith.
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On April 30 2009 21:16 disciple wrote:congrats on the DT icon Thanks
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1 vulture in the middle of the map takes out 6-7 lings and go.go scouting with a wraith which in turn is being chased by scourge and gets taken out. His dropship passes by a overlord and he unloads in the top right main. Calm losses 2 lurkers carelessly and is going for a drop in the main of go.go.
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go.go is moving out and calm drops his mains with 6 lurkers and all the barracks go down. Calm also scourges the dropship headed for his main. go.go outside his natural and calm is about to take down one of the scans of go.go.
go.go running out of scans because he is being attacked in both fronts.
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Its not as epic when its not in all caps lol.
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calm flanks with lings and takes out 3 tanks and 1 group of medic marine that was almost about to kill his hive in his nat.
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Calm is spreading the lurkers in go'go's main because go'go doesn't have a sci vessel and has a limited amount of scans. calm attacks the natural of go.go with 12 lingsa dn takes out 1 bunker.
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Its basically 3 bases versus 1 and a half cause go.go is barely mining at his main. Calm is out with defilers. I think this game will be over in 1-2 minutes. wraith taking potshots at lurker and ligns gathering outside the nat of go.go. hydra takes it out.
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Looks like we're going to get a quality game from Bisu and Calm.
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nice go calm!!! i dont think he has much of a chance against bisu but im hoping he will come out ontop
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Defiler consumes and he dark swarms the natural of go.go and attacks with a bunch of lurker ling and go.go lifts his cc and he darkswarms the main of go.go and go.go gg's
Inter.Calm > go.go @ Byzantium (i.e Skill > Map imbalance)
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11-3 now Byz3 stats for TvZ
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Calm's still the only zerg that Bisu fears in PvZ (well maybe hero too now that he got some frags on him )
Here's hope for an entertaining game!
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Lets hope yaqoob's predictions for group 12 stay accurate
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Calm will 2 hatch hydra all-in. Bisu must be ready for it
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Must be cool being Calms practice partner.
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Bisu Top left in green and Calm is bottom right in brown.
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Bisu making a pylon in his nat and is scouting Calms main. Calm does a 11 hatch in his nat to prevent Bisu being able to delay him from placing it.
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Bisu makes a nexus and then a gateway + forge in his natural. Calm is getting a pool and when it finishes he adds a gas.
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Bisu delaying Calms third but calm instead places it at his natural. Bisu is mining gas and is getting his core and his probe is alive in the main of calm and scouts the morphing lair.
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Bisu's probe is still alive and Bisu is getting a stargate in his main. Bisu with only 1 cannon in his natural and his first zeal scounts the 4th hatch of calm at the bottom right expo. Calm getting a spire.
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4 lings chase that one zealot and take it out. Bisu gets a probe into the main of calm (or perhaps its the same one) and scouts the hydra den and the gas at the natural. Bisu with a sair out and takes out a overlord near calms nat and retreats the sair. Bisu getting + 1 and adding 1 cannon in his nat + main and 2 gateways.
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Fuck, no streams working. Go go Yaqoob live report!
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That Corsair is so lucky. Damn Scourage AI.
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Bisu scouting with his sairs and has 2 dts and 5 zeals out and scouts the morphing lurkers in the natural of calm and gets 2 dts into the main of calm. He takes our 4 drones and bunch of lings but clam now has ovi speed.
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Hey Calm, you're supposed to burrow the Lurkers.
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Bisu taking a 3rd and Bisu has no cannons their but Bisu surronds and kills the 2 lurkers with archons zeal and then uses archon splash to kill a lurker outside his nat. Bisu's ob is about to come out and bisu moves out and kills another lurker with archon splash. Calm taking a 4th and bisu is transfering probes to his 3rd.
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Bisu moves out with a group of zeal archon and takes out a lot of drones @ calms 3rd but is forced back when his ob gets scourged. Bisu now moves to calms 4th but is forced back when lurkers come because of lack of obs.
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I bet Bisu has like 50% more EAPM then Calm, its just unbelievable how this guy plays.
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Calm already has hive and is getting defiler. Bisu adding 2 gateays up to 8 and is taking a 4th now and raoming the map with his army. Calm scouts the 4th and forces it to cancel with lings.
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nice job yaqoob.. my stujpid internet capped after i watched bisu beat sair..
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omfg beautiful storms take out a group of lurkers
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Bisu now moving out with his army towards calms 3rd/4th and clam borrows his lurkers infront of bisu but bisu passes them and goes up the second ramp to calms 3rd. Bisu gets off some good storms and manages to take out the 3rd. HOLY SHIT BISU KILLED ALL HIS LURKERS WITH AMAZING STORMS LOL
CALM IS SCREWED.
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Bisu has his 4th up and Clam only has 3 bases and Bisu moving towards calm newly made 4th but calm is forced to retreat his drones. Clam going for a drop in bisus main but bisu has like 5 sais already their + cannons. Drop does like nothing except killing some probes.
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storm = imba O_O wtf was that
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Bisu definitely has the advantage and can't see him throwing it away
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Calm with a ultra den and is doing some weird attack on bisu's 4th and losses all his lings + lurkers to cannons + lings and Bisu is roaming the map with his sairs. Bisu going to start on reaver production and is going to take his 5th and is killing overlords everywhere.
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On April 30 2009 21:48 hubfub wrote: has calm gged yet?
No he hasn't
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Bisu just destroying abse after base and finally calm ggs!! Great game !
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LOL i just notice last 10 posts all have t1 in bottom right corner
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Calm is like: fuck its, this is pointless.
gg lol
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Calm attacks with 2 group of lings or more @ Top right and kills absolutely nothing and gg's after that
Bisu > Calm @ Carthage (TOO EASY)
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Bisu scratching his hair like a monkey and smiling at camera
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this means bisu is in RO32 ?
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On April 30 2009 21:50 sidesprang wrote: this means bisu is in RO32 ?
yup
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Calm obviously disappointed that by.hero's invincibility against Bisu didn't rub off on him
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Scary, out of Calm's last 13 games against Protoss, he's 9-4. Four of those losses are from Bisu.
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Bisu played well. Calm played like shit.
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Thats because Bisu plays the easy race .
jk
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hey look the savior killers won
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Uhm why did calm skip mutas..?
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On April 30 2009 23:20 Infinity.SkyLark wrote: Uhm why did calm skip mutas..?
idk :/ makes me sad
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OP called Group 12 perfectly... or was it so obvious.
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On May 01 2009 03:05 Spanxxx wrote: bisu vs fbh o_O!!
they both go to ro32.
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Where can I find VODs of these matches?
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FBH better win the entire thing now.
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lol doubt it he's not that good the only reason y ppl know him are his: dances win against savior
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Woot. FBH finally getting somewhere after he went into his slump.
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On May 01 2009 08:56 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote: lol doubt it he's not that good the only reason y ppl know him are his: dances win against savior
..? FBH was among the best in TvZ and TvT for quite a while, he's just slumping recently.
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well TvZ yah but other than that he wasn't THAT great if u ask anyone the first thing that comes to mind with FBH it's the dances
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On May 01 2009 10:15 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote: well TvZ yah but other than that he wasn't THAT great if u ask anyone the first thing that comes to mind with FBH it's the dances you have no idea what you're talking about.
his tvt is well respected. one of his nicknames in korea for a while was tvt bonjwa.
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lol maybe ac ouple years back i could be wrong
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On May 01 2009 10:30 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote: lol maybe ac ouple years back i could be wrong
FBH is famous for TvZ and TvT his dances would not happen if he was horrible.
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lol he is known for his dances even when he loses lol he adds so much spirit to starcraft
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Bisu delivered.
btw Tiger you're annoying and nothing is funny, stop the lol's
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On May 01 2009 10:41 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote: lol he is known for his dances even when he loses lol he adds so much spirit to starcraft
Uhh..players don't do ceremonies after they lose.
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On May 01 2009 12:38 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 10:41 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote: lol he is known for his dances even when he loses lol he adds so much spirit to starcraft
Uhh..players don't do ceremonies after they lose. I wish they did do ceremonies even if they lost. That would be pretty funny.
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YAY FBH FINALLY OMFG!!!!!
On May 01 2009 08:56 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote: lol doubt it he's not that good the only reason y ppl know him are his: dances win against savior
Offtopic but do you always write your posts like this?
I find it to be really confusing.
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On May 01 2009 12:38 Rostam wrote:
Uhh..players don't do ceremonies after they lose.
FBH did one once, with a teammate after losing.
Also, the first thing I think of FBH (play-wise) is his heavy turtling into BC TvZ
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FBH has shown strong play in tons of TvZ styles.
cept for mech haha.
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who is playing right now?
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No one is playing right now because group 11 and 12 took place yesterday.
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On May 01 2009 18:40 Yaqoob wrote: No one is playing right now because group 11 and 12 took place yesterday.
Ok well, when will the next groups be shown..
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On May 01 2009 09:52 Rostam wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 08:56 TheTeamLiquidTiger wrote: lol doubt it he's not that good the only reason y ppl know him are his: dances win against savior ..? FBH was among the best in TvZ and TvT for quite a while, he's just slumping recently.
He's been in what, one or two semi finals in his entire career? Oh yeah he lost that deciding pro league finals game too. I'd say he's definetely most famous for beating savior and dancing. He tried to reinvent himself by becoming jaedong's nemesis as well but he couldn't do it and since then he's been off the charts.
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well if u guys have a problem reading columns then i 'll just post them like this and what's wrong with saying lol?
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It's unnecessary, just like posting it in columns. It's like writing up to down in english; people can read it; it's just annoying and pointless.
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