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At first, I'm thinking spoofer, so I do a /whois. He had the account. Then, after game, I decided to check APM. His APM was 282 with terran, and was in the mid 200s with protoss.
All games on Fighting Spirit
I'm not thinking it's really him, as I'm not that amazing and I beat him 3 out of 5 games we played (went 1-2 PvT, and 2-0 ZvP) I know for a fact flash offraces as P sometimes, though, and the APM and build made me believe that even if it's not him, it's worthy of posting the first game we played.
Game 1 was 12 nexus auto win. I went 12 nex into 4 gate with zealot leg speed and trampled him. He had tried to play pretty safe and go 1 factory siege expand i'm pretty sure. He did the common "i'm better than you, so i'm going to play safe" plan B approach that most people do whenever they're cocky.
Game 2 I tried to reaver drop him, and he had excellent micro in not dying, as I went fake cybernetics upgrade on air weapons and he honestly thought I was 1 gate 1 robo... he managed to survive with no engineering bay/starport, just transferring his scvs back between natural and main, and the few scarabs I got off he managed to make buggy. In terms of build order, I really should have won game 2, and it wasn't even the fact that I fucked it up... when I caught flash off guard he was quick to react. I wish I had saved my losses, but I have a bad habit of not saving them.
Game 3 I scouted earlier than I had been... I scouted on 8/9. I scouted him late, and I saw he was going 15 cc ... 1 rax cc.. so i tried the play nony did vs idra in the TSL with the 4 gate (2 in middle of map) goon range -> zealots -> break them, but I fucked it up. As soon as he got siege I typed GG, as I was fucked.
Game 4 I decided I wanted to ZvT for shits and giggles, and go 9 pool speedling. I picked Z. When I picked Z, though, he decided to be protoss. I accidentally started an overlord, and since I wanted to do something off the wall anyways, I decided to do 3 hatch before pool. He scouted the wrong way, so he started a forge + cannons before he saw that he had fucked up. He cancelled his 2nd cannon right as it was about to finish. I got gas and a 4th hatch after my pool, and i proceeded to 5sz6sz7sz8sz and kwanro him.
Game 5 I went Z again, and he picked P again. I tried to 9 pool speedling, but his cannons were up in perfect time. I then tried to prevent his scouting after wasting my lings, but he managed to see my 1 hatch lair and hydralisk den. I was thinking fuck, i'm screwed... then i thought i have a lair, i can just make a spire... 1 hatch mutalisk is so unexpected for people, and i managed to kill a good deal of probes and the cannons he tried to warp in his main as i was picking off probes at his natural with my 3 mutas. i wont go into the game in detail, but since i went muta he proxied sairs... when he went sair i made hydras... when i made hydras he made reaver... i managed to kill his reaver shuttle, and he was trapped on his natural. even though i couldn't keep an overlord alive longer than 30 seconds i managed to win through having 4 bases to his 1.
I have every replay I won, and the 2 I lost were pretty short games (~10 minutes)
http://repdepot.net/replay.php?id=33949
Poll: Is this really Flash? (Vote): Yes. (Vote): No. (Vote): I didn't watch the replay.
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is this blog a troll post because i feel like i'm being trolled
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I am really not trolling, watch the replay.
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You're pretty bad. What is your rank, C-? Just curious.
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you really think your d+ skills are enough to take a game off flash?
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Let me answer your question with another question,
Are you the real Bill Murray?
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DUDE i think that really was flash all the hotkeys and stuff match up omg 12 nex is imba lol BILL MURRAY BEAT FLASH GUYSSSSSSSSSSESSSSSSSS
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Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible. I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins..
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Wow...12 nex is imba if you can beat Flash...Maybe Blizzard should give BW one last patch before the final transition to SC2...
Kudos man, taking games off Flash like that.
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On March 31 2010 19:06 Bill Murray wrote: Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible. I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins.. Ya, you're bad.
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my style of play isn't safe, but i win vs. anyone because of it.
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On March 31 2010 19:06 Bill Murray wrote: Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible. I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins..
so you have d+ macro then?
so you hit C as in you peaked C by doing all ins and proxies. are you combat ex?
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i used 12 nexus often because as a main Terran i knew its annyoing to play against that shit =( yes you can bunkerrush, but if its succeed you wont be that much ahead but if you fail you can just leave and if you do nothing against it you are behind too =(
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i wouldn't peak C if I played 400 in a season is what i'm saying.
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i really think it was him, and i feel like it's deja vu all over again.
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On March 31 2010 19:13 Bill Murray wrote: i wouldn't peak C if I played 400 in a season is what i'm saying.
your a c-/c player tops imo with your play. idk why your so proud of dts and proxies and allins lol
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is 12 nexus or 3 hatch before pool an all in? When I play people multiple games, I am good at messing with their heads via build orders. I really don't think you've even watched the replay.
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On March 31 2010 19:16 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 19:13 Bill Murray wrote: i wouldn't peak C if I played 400 in a season is what i'm saying. your a d+ player tops imo with your play. idk why your so proud of dts and proxies and allins lol Fixed.
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I could get past d+ in like 4 hours dude shut up
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LOL BUT ITS SO FUNNY. YOU SUCK.
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Flash uses 3 for his command center
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it's all relative.
how high of a rank does one have to really be before they can take games, or series, off of players of any rank? Also, just because player A can beat player B, that does not mean he can beat player C.
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On March 31 2010 19:19 Bill Murray wrote: is 12 nexus or 3 hatch before pool an all in? When I play people multiple games, I am good at messing with their heads via build orders. I really don't think you've even watched the replay.
On March 31 2010 19:06 Bill Murray wrote: Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible. I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins..
actually i have watched the replay. I'm actually very well known on tl for looking at replays and looking at the hotkeys, doing this tell me who the progamer is. the hotkeys actually matched up with this guy Rock hes a very famous progamer that has trashed players like jaedong
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On March 31 2010 19:26 Bill Murray wrote: it's all relative.
how high of a rank does one have to really be before they can take games, or series, off of players of any rank? Also, just because player A can beat player B, that does not mean he can beat player C.
lets see. the real flash could kill his first scv, vision you, let you double expand before gates (as toss)
and roll you with mnm
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On March 31 2010 19:29 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 19:26 Bill Murray wrote: it's all relative.
how high of a rank does one have to really be before they can take games, or series, off of players of any rank? Also, just because player A can beat player B, that does not mean he can beat player C. lets see. the real flash could kill his first 5 scvs, vision you, let you double expand before gates (as toss) and roll you with mnm SCVs only, with just using one hand!
fixed!
seriously we talk about flash!
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On March 31 2010 19:26 Bill Murray wrote: it's all relative.
how high of a rank does one have to really be before they can take games, or series, off of players of any rank? Also, just because player A can beat player B, that does not mean he can beat player C. ROFL, yes it does, it really really does. I'm not sure you understand the magnitude of the rank difference.
That's like saying oh ya nadal can take games off federer but he can't beat some semi pro at the local tennis club i mean it's all relative right
But this is all assuming you're not trolling, which is surely impossible. Oh well
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how is tennis relative to brood war? it's not. I start with 4 scvs, how many do you start with?
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it was an analogy relating to skill mattering in a game
i start with 4 large scvs btw
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On March 31 2010 19:43 Divinek wrote: it was an analogy relating to skill mattering in a game
i start with 4 large scvs btw Are they African American?
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On March 31 2010 19:43 Divinek wrote: it was an analogy relating to skill mattering in a game
i start with 4 large scvs btw
gotta dumb stuff down for the 12 yr kid here
User was warned for this post.
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ive been playing SC almost that long.
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On March 31 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote: i really think it was him, and i feel like it's deja vu all over again.
kinda like in Groundhog Day?
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On March 31 2010 19:44 Amnesia wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 19:43 Divinek wrote: it was an analogy relating to skill mattering in a game
i start with 4 large scvs btw Are they African American?
Not all of them, i don't like to discriminate
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On March 31 2010 19:50 Kim_Hyun_Han wrote: its not flash thats me hahahah <3
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On March 31 2010 19:46 Bill Murray wrote: did you watch the replay
of course i did hes the Rock
legend of starcraft ask anyone, well you should know since you have been playing sc for 12 years durr
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ok, if it's you, what were our starting positions when we played the protoss and zerg games?
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if you search by.flash on iccup you will see 2 things 1. the guy you played was an american 2. there are 17 other players with 'by.flash' in their namei really think it was him, and i feel like it's deja vu all over again.
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On March 31 2010 19:50 Amnesia wrote:hahahah <3
ok
but i use flash hotkeys also
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On March 31 2010 19:52 inReacH wrote:if you search by.flash on iccup you will see 2 things 1. the guy you played was an american 2. there are 17 other players with 'by.flash' in their name
game was played on useast
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On March 31 2010 19:51 Bill Murray wrote: ok, if it's you, what were our starting positions when we played the protoss and zerg games? Either you are a) a persistent troll (that fails hard at trolling) or b) dumbass
Probably both.
User was temp-banned for this post.
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[Mod Edit: Don't post meme images]
User was temp-banned for this post.
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An other "did i just play [progamer]?" thread, seriously? No, you didn't. You're welcome.
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Flash would roll you with just 3 starting scvs easily, just as I can roll D/D+ people with my offrace with 3 workers. That's a fact.
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On March 31 2010 19:55 kroko wrote: [Mod Edit: Don't post meme images]
On March 31 2010 19:57 538 wrote: An other "did i just play [progamer]?" thread, seriously? No, you didn't. You're welcome.
What they said.
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LOL C player thinking he can beat Flash.
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i love this blog! so many warning and bans :O
StorrZerg
but if the game was played on east, it doesnt make sense for me. why should a progamer play on EAST? why not west/iccup/brain like every other korean?
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On March 31 2010 20:06 MeProU_Kor wrote: i love this blog! so many warning and bans :O
StorrZerg
but if the game was played on east, it doesnt make sense for me. why should a progamer play on EAST? why not west/iccup/brain like every other korean?
cause its Rock he does w/e the fuck he wants.
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On March 31 2010 19:06 Bill Murray wrote: Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible. I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins.. I once got B+ with a half dozen losses but that doesn't make me a progamer. iccup extrapolation is a joke.
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On March 31 2010 20:10 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 31 2010 19:06 Bill Murray wrote: Yeah... with 12 nexus anything is possible. I was at C with a positive record the only season I really played more than 10~ games. I probably could be C+/B- before I would get a losing record if I'm in shape. That being said, the games I win I would win against anyone, as I am extremely good at harassing with reavers/dts/proxying/all ins.. I once got B+ with a half dozen losses but that doesn't make me a progamer. iccup extrapolation is a joke.
but it makes you a good cheeser...
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On March 31 2010 20:18 Frits wrote: Bill Murray #1 powerrank
over power outage?
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Is this thread real?
And why would Flash play on EAST over ICCup or let me see... the convenience of practice partners or maybe KT?
Whatever the case, good job on your wins. Wins are wins, and good plays are good plays. Don't live off the coattails of a few good games though, go make some more happen.
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Baltimore, USA22222 Posts
On March 31 2010 19:57 538 wrote: An other "did i just play [progamer]?" thread, seriously? No, you didn't. You're welcome.
Pretty much this. Sorry Bill Murray, you definitely did not play Flash, despite how much I'm sure you would like to be able to say that. In fact, this was probably someone not even remotely close to flash's level.
That doesn't mean you can't still be proud of winning a few games vs someone who could be better than you; hey, it's always good to win.
To the rest of you: Something being so blatently obvious doesn't give a green light to be a bunch've dickheads. We were all new at some point, be respectful.
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