On July 07 2010 21:53 futtah wrote: This might seem like a big change to some but this is already being done daily with social networks such as Facebook. Controversial comments are already made on blogs and sites with people's real names. If you ask me - this is a really smart move from Activision-Blizzard since it takes decisions like these to keep evolving the gaming community. This will definitely clean up the forums and add more maturity to most discussions.
Maybe you haven't caught the trend, but people who value privacy hate Facebook, too. I prefer not to have my personal information sold to any random company who will then send me spam email after email, so I don't have a Facebook account.
That might be the trend in your circle of people but that doesn't change the fact that Facebook has over 400 million active accounts - and 200 million with daily activity. But my original point was that this is already going on all over the internet even if you take Facebook out of that equation. Privacy is about choice. How much you choose to keep private is about personal limits. I understand that people are reacting to this change - but to say that the forums will become a wasteland is ignorant. I just think if showing your real name makes you feel exposed to the millions of people playing Blizzard games - then don't post on the official forums. Go to teamliquid.net and keep doing what you've been doing up untill now. Again, it's about choice and the internet is filled with them.
Until today, it was a choice to use the realid system at all - what choices will be removed tomorrow?
Now your choice is to post or not.
Tomorrow who knows, maybe your choice will become to play or not
On July 07 2010 21:53 futtah wrote: This might seem like a big change to some but this is already being done daily with social networks such as Facebook. Controversial comments are already made on blogs and sites with people's real names. If you ask me - this is a really smart move from Activision-Blizzard since it takes decisions like these to keep evolving the gaming community. This will definitely clean up the forums and add more maturity to most discussions.
Maybe you haven't caught the trend, but people who value privacy hate Facebook, too. I prefer not to have my personal information sold to any random company who will then send me spam email after email, so I don't have a Facebook account.
That might be the trend in your circle of people but that doesn't change the fact that Facebook has over 400 million active accounts - and 200 million with daily activity. But my original point was that this is already going on all over the internet even if you take Facebook out of that equation. Privacy is about choice. How much you choose to keep private is about personal limits. I understand that people are reacting to this change - but to say that the forums will become a wasteland is ignorant. I just think if showing your real name makes you feel exposed to the millions of people playing Blizzard games - then don't post on the official forums. Go to teamliquid.net and keep doing what you've been doing up untill now. Again, it's about choice and the internet is filled with them.
Until today, it was a choice to use the realid system at all - what choices will be removed tomorrow?
Now your choice is to post or not.
Tomorrow who knows, maybe your choice will become to play or not
So many choices!!
No, that choice always existed. The choice that has been removed is how I will appear when posting, IF I do.
Based on the comments in here I've never been more convinced this is a great idea. If the retards on here who say they won't buy the game because they can't troll the official forums without their name being there are being honest (most of them aren't), then the forums will actually be a useful place to visit from time to time.
It's the same illogical retards that are arguing against their names being posted that are the ones ruining the forums. The two groups probably have nearly identical overlap.
But all of us who believe that something similar to what happened to Bashiok can happen to us if someone becomes pissed at us on the forums or 4chan gets a hold of our name are paranoid, delusional conspiracy theorists... /sarcasm off
Did anyone else notice that Blizzards stock dropped several points? I wonder if it is related...
Also this made me scrap any idea of renewing my WoW subscription...
Great Move Blizzard, whats next, displaying your social security number on the forums so that trolls can't choose generic names like John Smith?
On July 07 2010 04:23 Steven.Bonnell.II wrote: 1 - If someone calls your house, who the fuck cares? It's not a big deal.
If, on the other hand, you think it is a big deal (and I think that's fine, if you do), you can take legal recourse. If some pimply faced 18 year old thinks it's funny to make threatening calls to my house, I guarantee you that ONE visit or call from the police will scare him shitless.
I prank call my friends through payphones, have fun making the police visit payphones ^.^
No, prank calls are not a big deal, but they are annoying. For blizzard to make it easier for people to do stuff like that is just stupid.
On July 07 2010 21:53 futtah wrote: This might seem like a big change to some but this is already being done daily with social networks such as Facebook. Controversial comments are already made on blogs and sites with people's real names. If you ask me - this is a really smart move from Activision-Blizzard since it takes decisions like these to keep evolving the gaming community. This will definitely clean up the forums and add more maturity to most discussions.
Maybe you haven't caught the trend, but people who value privacy hate Facebook, too. I prefer not to have my personal information sold to any random company who will then send me spam email after email, so I don't have a Facebook account.
That might be the trend in your circle of people but that doesn't change the fact that Facebook has over 400 million active accounts - and 200 million with daily activity. But my original point was that this is already going on all over the internet even if you take Facebook out of that equation. Privacy is about choice. How much you choose to keep private is about personal limits. I understand that people are reacting to this change - but to say that the forums will become a wasteland is ignorant. I just think if showing your real name makes you feel exposed to the millions of people playing Blizzard games - then don't post on the official forums. Go to teamliquid.net and keep doing what you've been doing up untill now. Again, it's about choice and the internet is filled with them.
Until today, it was a choice to use the realid system at all - what choices will be removed tomorrow?
I'm not here to defend Activision-Blizzard's actions but I can understand their motives behind this decision. I can't tell you what will change tomorrow though but here's something to think about. As long as Blizzard is developing this game and gaming platform that is Battle.net - the only real choice you have and I mean like fundamentally - is the choice to play the game or not. And if you choose to play the game - you're not forced to participate in the social aspects such as the forums. There's always a choice.
4chan nowadays is reduced to a bunch of morons, called "internet pranksters" by news. They are no longer the notorious "internet hate machine" that went through with Project Chanology. Its sad really.
On July 07 2010 22:32 Tray wrote: Based on the comments in here I've never been more convinced this is a great idea. If the retards on here who say they won't buy the game because they can't troll the official forums without their name being there are being honest (most of them aren't), then the forums will actually be a useful place to visit from time to time.
It's the same illogical retards that are arguing against their names being posted that are the ones ruining the forums. The two groups probably have nearly identical overlap.
No man, having real names will not stop people trolling forums. What it does do is let other trolls and hackers and what not find out EVERYTHING to know about you and then use it against you.
On July 07 2010 22:32 Tray wrote: Based on the comments in here I've never been more convinced this is a great idea. If the retards on here who say they won't buy the game because they can't troll the official forums without their name being there are being honest (most of them aren't), then the forums will actually be a useful place to visit from time to time.
It's the same illogical retards that are arguing against their names being posted that are the ones ruining the forums. The two groups probably have nearly identical overlap.
If you actually think we're complaining because we won't be able to troll the B.net forum, then you're a fucking idiot, simple as that.
4/5 of ppl here dont want this change. If you consider 1/5 of ppl here to be trolls/spammers, which I would consider hugely overestimated, that means 3/4 of people who are not trolls/spammers dont want it. Why do something the vast majority of your community clearly dislikes?
I hardly ever posted on Blizzard forums but now I wont post for sure. TL forums are just so much better anyway. And one of the reasons they are better is simply that they are much more tightly policed by TL moderators and by the community as well. If you don't police your forums properly, chaos and criminality ensue. So Blizzard, instead of removing the mask from everyone in a land of crime, implement some law and order in that land instead.
Get a grip and gain some perspective. Is not posting on the official forums really going to drastically change your life?
Ah the old "dont like it, dont play it" arguement how I missed you....
That wasn't the argument, in addition to the fact that I was not arguing for or against anything. As far as I'm concerned, it COULD be a bad idea. It could be a good idea. I'm asking people to consider the overall impact this has and consider whether it is really going to have an impact. I feel people are being over dramatic over something that will likely not affect them that greatly. Maybe they're not. But I'd like them to stop and think for a second.
How come blizzard is just plain stupid lately? First they said no chatrooms 'cause of spammers. Yeah, because when some people are spamming PENIS in chatroom where little Timmy can see it it's bad, but when your email is exposed to everyone so they can grab it and spam it with viagra advertisements it's okay. And now they're forcing people to post with they real name to deal with trolling an other 'unpleasantness' and not noticing that for lets say girls or kids aged 10-12 it may be more unpleasant posting with real name so every horny stalker or pedo can track them down using internets. Waiting for first angry nerd on 4chan rallying /b/ to his cause and mass death threats/mass pizza ordering!
On July 07 2010 22:42 Kaymeerah wrote: 4chan nowadays is reduced to a bunch of morons, called "internet pranksters" by news. They are no longer the notorious "internet hate machine" that went through with Project Chanology. Its sad really.
Chanology was a dumb failure anyway. All they did was send lots of black faxes to Scientology offices and go to protests with masks on.
Get a grip and gain some perspective. Is not posting on the official forums really going to drastically change your life?
Ah the old "dont like it, dont play it" arguement how I missed you....
That wasn't the argument, in addition to the fact that I was not arguing for or against anything. As far as I'm concerned, it COULD be a bad idea. It could be a good idea. I'm asking people to consider the overall impact this has and consider whether it is really going to have an impact. I feel people are being over dramatic over something that will likely not affect them that greatly. Maybe they're not. But I'd like them to stop and think for a second.
Thank you - that's exactly the point that needs to be emphasized.
"If I had asked my customers what they wanted, they would have said a faster horse" Henry Ford, 1923
Get a grip and gain some perspective. Is not posting on the official forums really going to drastically change your life?
Ah the old "dont like it, dont play it" arguement how I missed you....
That wasn't the argument, in addition to the fact that I was not arguing for or against anything. As far as I'm concerned, it COULD be a bad idea. It could be a good idea. I'm asking people to consider the overall impact this has and consider whether it is really going to have an impact. I feel people are being over dramatic over something that will likely not affect them that greatly. Maybe they're not. But I'd like them to stop and think for a second.
Well most of us did, its not about affecting me personally its how it affects the community. Internet does not mix with personal info, just like going to the burger house doesn't either. You go out and ask for burger and chips, do you need to tell the guy serving you what's you 1st and last name? No! Yes they have the name tag on but they are the service provider not the costumer..
I will try to make my point as simple as I can for all those ppl that still don't get what's all the fuss about. FACT! - You don't use your birth name in porn! FACT! - The internet is for Porn! THEREFORE! - You don't use you birth name on the Internet.