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Edit: Inaccurate translation. These are the sentences that are being requested by the prosecuters. Not the actual sentencing given by the judge.
I haven't seen it around the forums yet, so I'll translate as best as I can.
The Starcraft Progamers who were involved in illegal gambling have been sentenced to jail based on how involved they were. Progamer Won must pay a fee of 3,000,000 Won (Roughly $3000) and is sentenced to jail for two years. Progamer Ma has been sentenced to jail for 1 year and 6 months.
From 4 pm to 8 pm, the Prosecutors who have been picked to prosecute and research the scandal of Illegal gambling in the Starcraft Progaming community held and resumed its 5th trial.
Broker Park have been sentenced to two years of jail and former Progamers Jung and Choi and a Self-business Owner Mr.Lee has been sentenced to 1 year of jail each.
The Final Sentence for the accused will be held on the upcoming 10th of September at 10 AM.
However, the sentence looks like this for now (will have to wait for the Final Sentence, but this is what has been sentenced for now):
Broker Park: 2 years of jail. Progamer Won: 2 years of jail + 3,000,000 Won (Roughly $3000) Progamer Ma: 1 year and 6 months of jail. Soccer Player Jung: 1 year and 6 months of jail. Banker Park: 1 year of jail. Former Progamer Jung: 1 year of jail. Former Progamer Choi: 1 year of jail. Self-business Owner Lee: 1 year of jail.
Will be updated as more people will be sentenced, or if the above sentences change.
P.S. My first translation, a bit rough, but this is the general idea.
Source
EDIT 1:
Progamer Ma has stated: "Due to the mistake I have made, I deeply regret my behavior and actions. Although I have to leave the seven years I have been a part of E-Sports, I would like to say sorry to my teammates, my coaches, and everyone who has been a part of E-sports. If I was given another chance, I would contribute everything I can to society and live a rightful, quiet life to work off my indecencies."
Progamer Won has stated: "At first, I did not know what I have done and caused was a big deal, but now that I do realize what I have done, what I have destroyed and contaminated, I am deeply sorry for the fans and my parents. If the court will be more lenient on my charges, I will try my hardest to live a better, and a more respectful life."
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EDIT 2:
Progamer Ma = Savior Progamer Won = Justin
Thanks GTR: Jung = By.1st, former Sparkyz Terran Choi = Shinhwa, former Hwaseung Zerg
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Bulgaria4058 Posts
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Ah... such a sad day, but I suppose it's deserved.
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Man they're really sending the players to jail for this? =(
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What happened to the others? Luxury, yarnc, type-b, hwasin, go.go, darkelf?
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Sorry but who is pro-gamer Won again?
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Seems awfully harsh considering that they're so young.
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Not a fan of savior but wow....
I was kinda hoping he won't be going to jail but he have to pay the price.
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Wasn't savior a minor when he was involved?
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On August 20 2010 18:17 JustQuitWarcraftIII wrote: Sorry but who is pro-gamer Won again? Justin.
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D= That's pretty harsh, but I suppose what they did was pretty serious, heh.
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On August 20 2010 18:19 salito wrote: Seems awfully harsh considering that they're so young.
lol young?
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On August 20 2010 18:19 cokencheese wrote: Wasn't savior a minor when he was involved?
no, he's like 23.
also justin 2 years haha.
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On August 20 2010 18:13 writer22816 wrote: What happened to the others? Luxury, yarnc, type-b, hwasin, go.go, darkelf?
I think they will be sentenced later on September 10th.
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Wow. Can't say he didn't have it coming though.
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They have Wai Pai in prison .. so i guess its ok ..
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Holy shit this is terrible news.... MJY...
Thanks for translation.
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Don't drop the soap Savior!
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United States11637 Posts
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Can we get the OP updated with who the four progamers are?
Ma = Savior Won = Justin Jung/Choi = ?
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Jung = By.1st, former Sparkyz Terran Choi = Shinhwa, former Hwaseung Zerg
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Woah, this is intense news. O_O
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I hate what savior did but I feel sorry for him.
It is sad that these progamers are going to jail. They not only have the lack of education/experience for jobs outside of esports like most progamers, but a prison record on top of it. Will be tough for them to get good jobs.
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On August 20 2010 18:26 Craton wrote: Jung/Choi = ? Jung = By.1st Choi = ShinHwA
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arg... I guess the laws the law. Poor MJY.. worst slump ever?
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On August 20 2010 18:07 gorgoino18 wrote:Progamer Won has stated: "At first, I did not know what I have done and caused was a big deal, but now that I do realize what I have done, what I have destroyed and contaminated, I am deeply sorry for the fans and my parents. If the court will be more lenient on my charges, I will try my hardest to live a better, and a more respectful life."
lol, how about regardless of what the court did, you should try your hardest to live a better more respectful life. Garbage kid. Makes me so mad. Even bothered to read the actual korean. What garbage.
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I hope it´s not a prison for the well equipped.
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On August 20 2010 18:29 SuperJongMan wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 18:07 gorgoino18 wrote:Progamer Won has stated: "At first, I did not know what I have done and caused was a big deal, but now that I do realize what I have done, what I have destroyed and contaminated, I am deeply sorry for the fans and my parents. If the court will be more lenient on my charges, I will try my hardest to live a better, and a more respectful life." lol, how about regardless of what the court did, you should try your hardest to live a better more respectful life. Garbage kid. Makes me so mad. Even bothered to read the actual korean. What garbage.
i don't even know if he was a legitimately rubbish player or was just consumed by greed.
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ROFL justin going in for 2 years, then eventually going to military for another 2 years good luck son, JUSTICE HAS BEEN FUCKING SERVED
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Wasn't Upmagic/sangho in this scandal, or am i completely wrong? If so, what happened to them?
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On August 20 2010 18:31 Grettin wrote: Wasn't Upmagic/sangho in this scandal, or am i completely wrong? If so, what happened to them?
Sangho was innocent, but was accused by netizens for a while (and retired). Upmagic was (as was yarnc, lux, go.go, type-b, darkelf, hwasin, etc)
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upmagic was, sangho wasn't and if you read the OP there's also a final sentence coming up
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On August 20 2010 18:31 Grettin wrote: Wasn't Upmagic/sangho in this scandal, or am i completely wrong? If so, what happened to them?
sangho is innocent and retired due to the scandal . Recently he was planning to become SC2 programer
upmagic is ban from kespa also planning to enter the SC2 Scene.
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savior
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They should start a new pro team. It would be like ACE but with prison instead of the airforce.
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they can all join ogogo and make a sc prison team!
On March 12 2008 19:26 Plexa wrote:wow? retiring isn't enough for progamers anymore? now they have to goto prison too?! + Show Spoiler +Korean Prison System Progaming Team !!
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Washington, D.C9931 Posts
wow, i had thought that the whole thing would blow over with some fines and a few scripted apologies. being sent to jail when you are barely in your twenties is a nightmarish scenario - though i was as pissed as any other sc fan about the scandal, i can't help but be bothered by the sentence.
edit: does anyone know anything about south korea's prison system? how are the conditions and are reduced sentences common for good behavior?
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On August 20 2010 18:33 DMXD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 18:31 Grettin wrote: Wasn't Upmagic/sangho in this scandal, or am i completely wrong? If so, what happened to them?
sangho is innocent and retired due to the scandal . Recently he was planning to become SC2 programer upmagic is ban from kespa also planning to enter the SC2 Scene.
This is why i wanted to know what happened to them.
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Though I'm deeply saddened by your actions, MJY, I will always remember the good times. You will be destroyed in 2011.
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Hope the nice watch and shoes were worth it.
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On August 20 2010 18:34 GTR wrote:they can all join ogogo and make a sc prison team! Show nested quote +On March 12 2008 19:26 Plexa wrote:wow? retiring isn't enough for progamers anymore? now they have to goto prison too?! + Show Spoiler +Korean Prison System Progaming Team !!
Rofl that's exactly what I thought after seeing so many progamers in jail. Boxer made a team for the military, Savior is gonna make a team for the players in jail.
On topic. 1+ years is really harsh omg
In western countries isn't it what you get when driving under the influence ? I mean they almost destroyed the BW pro scene, but they didn't threaten directly any human life.
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My username... is forever tainted. Savior was the first player I noticed and took a liking to when I was introduced to the BW scene.
Bonjailwa
On August 20 2010 18:33 DMXD wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 18:31 Grettin wrote: Wasn't Upmagic/sangho in this scandal, or am i completely wrong? If so, what happened to them?
sangho is innocent and retired due to the scandal . Recently he was planning to become SC2 programer upmagic is ban from kespa also planning to enter the SC2 Scene. I haven't been following this issue very closely, so I'm curious, why is it Savior gets jai time when Upmagic is free to enter other progaming scenes?
I'll be surprised if any pro team decides to trust any of these guys...
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locked TL banner represents Savior's jail sentence. When 1 year 6 months pass horses are gonna come back.
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Ogogo was sent to prison? For what?
Loved his play early in the scene during his WCG (2004?) run. Everyone thought ogogo was gonna be the next big thing but turned out to be a total bust.
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lol wow. Wonder if Savior is going to learn how to micro his anus
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On August 20 2010 18:42 Masheyoon wrote: I haven't been following this issue very closely, so I'm curious, why is it Savior gets jai time when Upmagic is free to enter other progaming scenes? Upmagic hasn't been sentenced (yet at least), and even if he does get time, it will be a lot less than Savior, because Savior brokered match fixing for other players, he deserves what he gets.
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I will say it again.. this is probably "on parole". i can't image that one guy with his first trouble with law gets a 1 year sentence.. thats not very likely at all
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On August 20 2010 18:41 endy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 18:34 GTR wrote:they can all join ogogo and make a sc prison team! On March 12 2008 19:26 Plexa wrote:wow? retiring isn't enough for progamers anymore? now they have to goto prison too?! + Show Spoiler +Korean Prison System Progaming Team !! Rofl that's exactly what I thought after seeing so many progamers in jail. Boxer made a team for the military, Savior is gonna make a team for the players in jail. On topic. 1+ years is really harsh omg In western countries isn't it what you get when driving under the influence ? I mean they almost destroyed the BW pro scene, but they didn't threaten directly any human life.
haha, in western society for driving under influence you get a warning and 2 more chances before they revoke your license, THEN send you to jail.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
FFFFFFFF T___T ah wellllllll not too surprised at this point..
lol Shinhwa was invovled in this too ??? LOL .. he hasn't been around in ages!
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Ah, poor guys. They should have been send to work from morning till evening, but jail for 1+ years...nah.
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This feels really harsh to me. I was never that upset about the match-fixing. Disappointed, but I would never dream of jail time for it.
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Never thought they'd be sent to jail. Seems really harsh but I guess they deserved it.
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On August 20 2010 18:45 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 18:42 Masheyoon wrote: I haven't been following this issue very closely, so I'm curious, why is it Savior gets jai time when Upmagic is free to enter other progaming scenes? Upmagic hasn't been sentenced (yet at least), and even if he does get time, it will be a lot less than Savior, because Savior brokered match fixing for other players, he deserves what he gets.
I thought the rumour that Upmagic was joining sc2 was officially denied by estro and Artosis might have gotten in trouble for the interview he did? I dunno, it was in one of those odd and ends news Milkis does, and nobody really said anything about what happened about it.
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Koreans dont fuck around when it comes to starcraft
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On August 20 2010 18:45 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 18:42 Masheyoon wrote: I haven't been following this issue very closely, so I'm curious, why is it Savior gets jai time when Upmagic is free to enter other progaming scenes? Upmagic hasn't been sentenced (yet at least), and even if he does get time, it will be a lot less than Savior, because Savior brokered match fixing for other players, he deserves what he gets.
They all got summary charged without a trial. They had the right to request one, like go.go did but apparently go.go got shut down in the court in 5 minutes by the judge.
Basically everyone not on that list that were involved got a fine/banned from KeSPA, and I don't think they'll ever able to do anything esports related
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Wish we can send hackers on Bnet to jail.
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Now they're gonna form a jail pro team that will compete with ACE for the last place in PL.
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On August 20 2010 18:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 18:41 endy wrote:On August 20 2010 18:34 GTR wrote:they can all join ogogo and make a sc prison team! On March 12 2008 19:26 Plexa wrote:wow? retiring isn't enough for progamers anymore? now they have to goto prison too?! + Show Spoiler +Korean Prison System Progaming Team !! Rofl that's exactly what I thought after seeing so many progamers in jail. Boxer made a team for the military, Savior is gonna make a team for the players in jail. On topic. 1+ years is really harsh omg In western countries isn't it what you get when driving under the influence ? I mean they almost destroyed the BW pro scene, but they didn't threaten directly any human life. haha, in western society for driving under influence you get a warning and 2 more chances before they revoke your license, THEN send you to jail.
No wonder people keep having deadly car accidents then. In China it's revoked license + 2 weeks of jail and/or community service. Plus your visa is revoked as well if you are a foreigner. Holy shit 1 year and a half
I hope there are no Savior haters in jail... for his butt's sake.
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why is justin geting harsher punishment than savior if savoir was the mastermind behind all those matchfixing scandals??
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justin was the initial broker
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He was not *sentenced* to jail yet. The prosecutors demanded 1 year and 6 months of imprisonment for Ma. And since he's a first-time offender, he will probably be put on probation, and won't go to jail anyhow.
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On August 20 2010 18:07 moopie wrote: Oh shit, Prison Bonjwa.
Not really. Technically, when he was stripped of all his awards/accomplishments he ceased to be bonjwa as he no longer holds necessary titles.
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Now can we put this all behind us?
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kind of sad that a computer gaming can eventually lead someone to jail for it's success
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On August 20 2010 19:55 Manit0u wrote:Not really. Technically, when he was stripped of all his awards/accomplishments he ceased to be bonjwa as he no longer holds necessary titles. ... bonjwa was never an official title, so it can't be stripped like an award. And my statement wasn't literal in case you needed help deciphering it.
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On August 20 2010 19:58 kaleidoscope wrote: kind of sad that a computer gaming can eventually lead someone to jail for it's success At this point he wasn't even trying to suceed at sc...
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oh man savior the next scofield. GO PRISON BREAK TT
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Steep sentences. Although somewhat more deserved for justin and savior since they had a more central role in this.
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What about progamer Jin? Hwasin? Wasn't he also involved in the scandal?
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Jin sold Ma down the river.
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holy shit don't mess with the BW gods
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wow... damn
harsh sentence, but I'm still kinda glad they did it... put some scare into younger progamers maybe thinking to do the same in BW/SC2/etc...
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feel bad for him yea it was a terrible terrible decision, but it sucks to see some guy's life get completely flipped upside down like that
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Yeah, a fine and a lifetime ban seemed like it would be enough; wasn't really expecting jail time, whether or not it will be actually served. You have to wonder how their parents are thinking. I assume that the Korean parents are as rabid about education and high-paying jobs as their Chinese counterparts are.
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Savior betrayed everyone, I don't care about the money, jail time is well deserved for what he and the others did.
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United States1719 Posts
THANK YOU that feels so good
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don't drop the soap sAviOr!
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Actually nothing to worry about...
As we all know, they will form a Jail-Team of them that will play in ProLeague..
Just like they did with AirForce..
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fbh be dancing after hearing this news
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Glad they're taking this seriously and setting a good precedence.
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I think it's kinda ok to set an example like this with the Maestro.
How are South Korean prisons though?
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Canada2480 Posts
2 years O_O
way too harsh in my opinion
On August 20 2010 18:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote: This feels really harsh to me. I was never that upset about the match-fixing. Disappointed, but I would never dream of jail time for it.
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Man, thats way too far, especially for a bunch of teenagers wtf
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Man that really hurts, I was such a big fan of savior :'(
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Wow, jail? Im glad they are taking this seriously for esports but thats a pretty big deal to be sent to jail for 2 years for match fixing. In a way I kind of feel bad for them. These guys put in so much time and effort to be progamers yet they don't get anything back because they just werent good enough or are not doing well, then they result to match fixing and get screwed over.
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holy. shit. this is pretty intense. hahha imagine a prison pro team.
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On August 20 2010 21:40 SubtleArt wrote: Man, thats way too far, especially for a bunch of teenagers wtf Justin is 23 in 2 days, and savior is 23 in 3 months
on topic: definitely agree with sentences, scumbags deserve to be in jail. Justin's "apology" makes me want to puke
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I feel bad for them all, especially Savior. 1-2 years in jail is alot
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Justin deserves this. The kid got half of his team into trouble.
Well, at least all future generations of progamers will remember this incident due to Savior's involvement. Let's call it his last "contribution" to the development of e-sport, a big red memorable warning sign.
Fun fact: If you search for "Savior" in google image, Ma Bonjwa's face is the first to pop up, followed by Jesus Christ who occupies the honorable 2nd slot. That's quiet an achievement.
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Oh wow. They don't take it easy with them
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On August 20 2010 21:52 dukethegold wrote: Justin deserves this. The kid got half of his team into trouble.
Well, at least all future generations of progamers will remember this incident due to Savior's involvement. Let's call it his last "contribution" to the development of e-sport, a big red memorable warning sign.
Fun fact: If you search for "Savior" in google image, Ma Bonjwa's face is the first to pop up, followed by Jesus Christ who occupies the honorable 2nd slot. That's quiet an achievement. This is sickkkk i hate savoir but hes reppin eSports WOOOOO google images
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On August 20 2010 21:43 G3nXsiS wrote: Wow, jail? Im glad they are taking this seriously for esports but thats a pretty big deal to be sent to jail for 2 years for match fixing. In a way I kind of feel bad for them. These guys put in so much time and effort to be progamers yet they don't get anything back because they just werent good enough or are not doing well, then they result to match fixing and get screwed over. Why do so many people think this is just about throwing a starcraft match? this is a lot bigger than starcraft. This is about contributing to illegal gambling (and in the case of Justin and Savor, brokering with players to expand the match fixing ring) which is taken seriously. The fact that its related to Starcraft made it more of a front-page material, so there's more of a need for an example to be set, but this is bigger than just 'taking this seriously for esports'..
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On August 20 2010 22:05 moopie wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 21:43 G3nXsiS wrote: Wow, jail? Im glad they are taking this seriously for esports but thats a pretty big deal to be sent to jail for 2 years for match fixing. In a way I kind of feel bad for them. These guys put in so much time and effort to be progamers yet they don't get anything back because they just werent good enough or are not doing well, then they result to match fixing and get screwed over. Why do so many people think this is just about throwing a starcraft match? this is a lot bigger than starcraft. This is about contributing to illegal gambling (and in the case of Justin and Savor, brokering with players to expand the match fixing ring) which is taken seriously. The fact that its related to Starcraft made it more of a front-page material, so there's more of a need for an example to be set, but this is bigger than just 'taking this seriously for esports'..
I just wish that sentences like that, and taking it so serious would extend to football too (and all sports in general, cheating + corruption is making everyone suffer).
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This is so pathetic.. jail for this ? U get away easier with murder in most other countries, dont be silly koreans please..
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2 years in prison for this... if you kill a person there i guess you dont away from execution(in public ^^) .....
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Are you serious? JAIL??? WTF. Wow. There are no words.
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Jail seems.. appropriate..
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Another problem with this is that those progamers will have a criminal background, and will have difficulty finding employment. In essence, their futures are destroyed.
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jail time is deserved for illegal gambling, as moopie said your all missing the bigger picture then it just being the throwing of a starcraft match so to speak.
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United States32499 Posts
critical translation error, closed
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