Orb, racist remarks on ladder and personal stream - Page 53
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instantdry
Canada308 Posts
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gruff
Sweden2276 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:48 dAPhREAk wrote: thats not a witch hunt. witch hunts are where people are accused of witchcraft and everyone throws bullshit claims in there to support it (none of which are actually true, or even related to witchcraft). orb was accused of using insensitive language, and for the most part it looks it is true as he has admitted it. Some people are arguing that raging in a game using offensive language doesn't make one a racist (which a lot of people are saying he is). From that perspective it is a witch hunt. | ||
Mohdoo
United States15081 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:47 HeeroFX wrote: well tonights EG master cup cast is by incontrol and machine Good! | ||
Mr Showtime
United States1353 Posts
If that is the case, and I were Alex, he'd be fired already. That kind of behavior is unacceptable, and I would never want someone like that to represent my organization. It's not just what he did on ladder. It's everything after that. Specifically, an inability to take responsibility for his own actions. Childish, immature, unprofessional, unacceptable. Again, everything he did isn't the worst thing in the world, but I would never have him represent my organization. He's fine to go on and do his own thing. | ||
Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:34 CCa1ss1e wrote: I agree.. In my opinion.. it doesn't matter if he's streaming on his own time or not.. he represents for EG and eSports.. this was completely unnecessary. I raged a lot in BW BGH and UT99.. but this whole being in the spotlight thing is so much different. I'd EASILY be able to restrain myself from explosions like that.. I'd just be so damned happy to be involved in esports, even at his level. While I re-read this, it seems difficult. I mean, sure, I guess he IS on his own time.. but streaming seems like a mix of work/play.. I dunno what I'm trying to say, but, if it were me and I was streaming, even to only a dozen people.. if I was involved in eSports like orb and I was laddering, while streaming.. I'd be pretty damned careful. Anyway.. may the force be with you. XD You're funny! So if its in the spotlight is all the sudden so much different? How the fuck does that work? By that thinking making racial slurs in private is fine? People take offense to it because it morally degrading. Shouldn't something that is morally incorrect be just as bad in private as in public? Kind of like saying rape is OK if its never made public but the fact you made the news everyone jumps on the bandwagon and it "so different".... | ||
Hrrrrm
United States2081 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:49 quistador wrote: Does anyone else think it's funny that the use of the word "nigger" makes you racists? Dumb people be dumb... there is a lot more that goes into racism, and orb has not come close. Saying "nigger" doesn't make you a racist. But most racists do like to say "nigger". Using that word opens you up to being possibly labeled a racist. So if you don't want to be mistakenly labeled a racist, don't use "nigger". It's actually quite simple. | ||
HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:51 Shebuha wrote: That's going to be nice, thanks! This thread is a storm of crazy. lol ohh Orb... yeah honestly i don't like orb's casting. I liked how last season was with DJWheat and idra/incontrol/painuser. But Wheat was prolly getting destroyed with how busy he was, so they hired Orb. | ||
jnsjr
United States461 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:29 mapleleafs791 wrote: This is the truth but Orb isnt some random guy anymore. Im black and while i am not offended to the point of raging i have lost some respect for him. 1. If you make racist jokes (which i do) you do them in private with people that actually know your not racist. 2. Calling someone a jew for being cheap or black for listing to hip hop a shitton is different than calling someone a stupid kike / fucking nigger when your pissed at them and are trying to be intentionally demeaning. That is inexcusable. 3. If you dont understand the context of black people using the n word around each other then get out. I NEVER use the n word and i dont like it, but a black person saying IS different from another race saying it for a reason. Trying to justify its use by saying i hear black comics and rap artists saying it is stupid. Iv heard white comics make black jokes and they were well received context and reputation matter ALOT. If he said "lol my friends so jewish he didnt pick up the tab" its poking fun at racial stereotypes in the right environment. If he said "fucking jewish piece of shit nigger strat" (which is pretty much what he did) its much different. As little as this actually offends me, reading the responses/rationale of people in this thread leads my to one conclusion. TL is full of young white kids that are either to immature to understand whats going on or people really take racism too lightly. I make gay/black/asian jokes and i dont think someone should be crucified for a private statement, but a gay/black/asian jokes (even if it is stereotype based) is much different than calling someone a fucking nigger/jew/faggot for no reason other than to demean/offend them. And when you represent the community shit like this doesn't fly. I still dont think he is racist but he has lost alot of my respect if he needs to resort to racial slurs every time he loses. It seems pretty immature. Destiny is the same for me and since i dont watch either of their streams i dont really care since i can ignore it. But he represents SC2 and EG so i do have a problem with it. TLDR: Race shit is always touchy, if you a public figure you cant EVER do it without expecting backlash so be careful. I dont think orb and destiny are racist but i dont have alot of respect for people that try to defend using racial/sexual slurs to crush someone spirits. Race jokes im ok with but calling someone a fucking (insert racial term) when your mad at them is ridiculous. Calling someone a jew for begin cheap is alot different than calling someone a piece of shit kike because your pissed at them. Additionally, sponsors care so you cant just run your mouth when your're attached to a company Edit: I think alot of people are overreacting, but alot of people are also under reacting I agree 100%. It is disheartening that people can't see this. I don't know if its immaturity or lack of experience. And yes, I am also Black. | ||
skatblast
United States784 Posts
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dAPhREAk
Nauru12396 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:53 gruff wrote: Some people are arguing that raging in a game using offensive language doesn't make one a racist (which a lot of people are saying he is). From that perspective it is a witch hunt. well, this thread is a joke. i am just focusing on the op, which accuses orb of various things, which appear to have been proven (for the most part) true. at the end of the day, EG decides what to do. | ||
Shebuha
Canada1335 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:53 Energizer wrote: Taking bets for the next caster to get castrated... My money is on Doa *eyeballs viciously* No way, it's going to be Gretorp AND Catz... Together! Their brotherly love on NASL stream is sickening!!! *shifty eyes* | ||
Oiseaux
United States676 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:53 Mr Showtime wrote: If that's who he is, fine. That's okay. There are impulsive and angry people in the community already. He'll just be another. I'm unclear as to his relationship with EG prior to this incident. I'm assuming that he is employed. If that is the case, and I were Alex, he'd be fired already. That kind of behavior is unacceptable, and I would never want someone like that to represent my organization. It's not just what he did on ladder. It's everything after that. Specifically, an inability to take responsibility for his own actions. Childish, immature, unprofessional, unacceptable. Again, everything he did isn't the worst thing in the world, but I would never have him represent my organization. He's fine to go on and do his own thing. While I don't want to touch this thread with a 10 foot pole, your signature is just too appropriate for this thread to not mention it. | ||
goldenwitch
United States338 Posts
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Quesadilla
United States1812 Posts
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liberal
1116 Posts
Is it true that Incontrol said that Koreans say "Rive and Rearn"???? RACISM!!! HOW CAN HE BE THE FACE OF ESPORTS GUYS WE HAVE TO GET RID OF THIS GUY FOR THE FUTURE OF SC2 YOU CANT MAKE FUN OF HOW NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS SPEAK ENGLISH!!!! | ||
MethodSC
United States928 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:54 skatblast wrote: He said he was going to go pack abowl aka smoke weed but there no issues about that!? lol i couldnt imagine an employeer wanting everybody to know that about there employees doing illegal drugs If he's in cali he could easily have a license to smoke. just sayin | ||
Rorschach
United States623 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:34 Ressonance wrote: Oh, so you're saying that he can be racist while casting since nobody force you to watch his content. And that would be true if he wasn't with EG and had no relation to any sponsors. he can be racist while casting sure, doubt he would be casting for very long... Don't sidestep my point though, no one or anything forces you view any such content. its a free country Also his relation to EG came AFTER any of this shit got blown out of proportion... | ||
crms
United States11933 Posts
On March 09 2012 09:53 instantdry wrote: looks like Teamliquid is the new Sherdog oh god, teamliquid is getting bad but nowhere near sherdog levels yet. | ||
Chessz
United States644 Posts
but WHATS "TRASHIER": -- Reddit community bringing attention to racist and homophobic slurs by prominent community member who represents the scene OR -- TL posters rationalizing the use racist and homophobic slurs? let's pretend to be educated at least for a moment mk ? | ||
MrCon
France29748 Posts
Is all this because he said someone was a nigger ? Aren't we overreacting ? | ||
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