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Information about your computing habits are collected and sent back to MS daily. For example: "this job collects and sends usage data to Microsoft”, what USB devices you use, how you use them and “information about your machine”. Most say “If the user hasn’t consented, this task does nothing”, however I don’t remember being asked. And the history is DISABLED so you can’t see if it’s actively sending data or not. These scripts are located at CONTROL PANEL → ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS → TASK SCHEDULER → ACTIVE SCRIPTS. The tasks are listed with a short description of what they do. If you disable or delete them is up to you.
Consolidator: If the user has consented to participate in the Windows Customer Experience Improvement Program, this job collects and sends usage data to Microsoft.
UsbCeip: “The USB CEIP (Customer Experience Improvement Program) task collects Universal Serial Bus related statistics and information about your machine and sends it to the Windows Device Connectivity engineering group at Microsoft. The information received is used to help improve the reliability, stability, and overall functionality of USB in Windows. If the user has not consented to participate in Windows CEIP, this task does not do anything.”
ProgramDataUpdater: “Collects program telemetry information if opted-in to the Microsoft Customer Experience Improvement Program”
AitAgent: Aggregates and uploads Application Telemetry information if opted-in to the Microsoft Customer Experience Improvement Program.
KernelCeipTask: The Kernel CEIP (Customer Experience Improvement Program) task collects additional information about the system and sends this data to Microsoft. If the user has not consented to participate in Windows CEIP, this task does nothing.
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Spying on me or spying on my usb devices?
Not really concerned if microsoft knows about my xbox controller and all the porn on my flash drive
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This is only if you opt in to the Microsoft Consumer Experience Improvement Program.
It is also present in Windows 8 and Windows Vista if you opt in.
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On December 15 2012 06:47 KarlKaliente wrote: Spying on me or spying on my usb devices?
Not really concerned if microsoft knows about my xbox controller and all the porn on my flash drive
Ssshhh, this is an important topic of concern for the paranoids. Reasonable objections are not allowed. Everything you own is now "you".
Btw, the opt-in options are offered during OS install (or on first run?) so if you received a pre-installed OS you may not have been directly presented the option without looking for it, but that does not mean it is forced on you.
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Well if they do they can go ahead I don't care about these minor stuff. People overreact so often about these stuff.
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I still don't understand all the hullabaloo about privacy.
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this is like saying your bank spies on you because it monitors your credit transactions for potential fraudulent activities.
Also windows asks for permission at the first startup.
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I still don't understand all the hullabaloo about privacy.
Same here. People should learn that in todays age, you will not have very much privacy at all as long as you use the internet on a home computer like most people.
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On December 15 2012 06:50 divito wrote: I still don't understand all the hullabaloo about privacy. I don't either. All I know is that people, including me, prefer to have privacy where possible over complete openness. No idea why. It's just the way it is, I guess.
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People are still mad that Facebook (among many other companies) sell our information, am I supposed to get angry about it?
I care very little about my online privacy, because the people that are gathering the information are going to see me as a name/number, not a person. I'm never going to meet those people in person, so what do I care if they see how much porn I watch. And they're going to have thousands/millions of people's data, I'm not going to be singled out.
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On December 15 2012 06:50 divito wrote: I still don't understand all the hullabaloo about privacy.
Do you lock the door whenever you go to the toilet? I mean everyone know what you're doing in there so why do you need that privacy for?
I don't mean to attack you as a person, but for me anyway, being able to lock the door gives me some peace of mind.
As for the OP, this was news like... 4 years ago? It's not too difficult to opt out of these things, although I admit that it's still annoying.
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Tbh most people that aren't afforded much privacy or are too young don't value it. They never had it and never understood it so why care? Interesting so many canadians are here.
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On December 15 2012 06:50 divito wrote: I still don't understand all the hullabaloo about privacy. Be glad then that you live in a time and place and have a kind of life where information about you is not a threat.
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On December 15 2012 07:12 TehRei wrote: Do you lock the door whenever you go to the toilet? I mean everyone know what you're doing in there so why do you need that privacy for?
I don't mean to attack you as a person, but for me anyway, being able to lock the door gives me some peace of mind.
I'm quite comfortable with the natural act of relieving oneself that I don't need to hide and be able to lock people out. However, I do lock the door when visiting someone's house or I am out in public, but not for my own sake. I do it so the person doesn't have to walk in on someone on the toilet and be embarrassed.
On December 15 2012 07:15 jdseemoreglass wrote: Be glad then that you live in a time and place and have a kind of life where information about you is not a threat. But this brings up the very point. The people complaining are complaining about computer habits, the software you use, and other computer details. I hardly think any of that is liable to get you accosted, injured or even killed. The "privacy" issues being argued over are nothing valuable to us, nor can it really be used against us.
Now, if there was some PI collecting information on you, your specific daily habits, attaining banking details, SIN/SSN, etc... then that's something completely different. In this sense though, everyone is being super sensitive over very little.
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CEIP is not secretly "spying" on you. First of all, it isn't secret: http://www.microsoft.com/products/ceip/EN-US/default.mspx
Secondly, it's opt-in. (Not remembering being asked doesn't mean that you weren't :p). If you ever get a popup that's like "Do you want to help improve Microsoft software" that's what you're agreeing to. Blizzard has a similar prompt when you install a new game if I recall correctly.
The data collected is not personally identifiable... from the link above: "CEIP reports do not contain contact information, such as your name, address, or phone number." You can read a detailed description of what they collect here: http://www.microsoft.com/products/ceip/en-us/privacypolicy.mspx?mkt=en-us
CEIP is no different than the telemetry that is in pretty much every major software product in the world today. It answers questions like "How often do users use feature X?" Note that it's an aggregate question, not about particular individuals.
Again from the link above:
CEIP reports generally include information about:
• Configuration, such as how many processors are in your computer, how many network connections you use, the operating system that your computer is currently running, screen resolutions for display devices, the strength of the wireless signal between your computer and a media player device, and if some features such as Bluetooth wireless technology or high-speed USB connections are turned on. • Performance and reliability, such as how quickly a program responds when you click a button, how many problems you experience with a program or a device, and how quickly information is sent or received over a network connection. • Program use, such as the features that you use the most often, how frequently you launch programs, and how many folders you typically create on your desktop.
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Close thread please
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The funny thing is that if people stopped just giving away their information like this, we could turn it into a commodity as consumers. The real question is why are you guys giving this away for free? Microsoft is asking for your "help" to improve their products. Last time I checked I get compensated if I help someone improve a product. This is no different. The OP is paranoid, but everyone else who thinks nothing of it is just irrational. This is capitalism people, Microsoft isn't giving you a hand out, why you giving them one?
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Man... I got some real kinky stuff in here that I don't want people to see D:
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On December 15 2012 08:24 Wpgstevo wrote: The funny thing is that if people stopped just giving away their information like this, we could turn it into a commodity as consumers. The real question is why are you guys giving this away for free? Microsoft is asking for your "help" to improve their products. Last time I checked I get compensated if I help someone improve a product. This is no different. The OP is paranoid, but everyone else who thinks nothing of it is just irrational. This is capitalism people, Microsoft isn't giving you a hand out, why you giving them one?
That's an interesting idea, but I'm not sure it would work out the way you think. The feedback a company gets presumably works its way back into producing a better product, which benefits the consumers of the next generation. Assuming you could successfully band everyone together to commoditize that information (a costly process to begin with), that money a company paid for it would just be transferred directly back into the price of the product. Or the price would be too high and that information would never be available to the producer, and so the products that consumers are using wouldn't be as good. Then there would be a strong incentive for individuals to break with the "union" because then their feedback would be incorporated into the product and they would be happier.
I don't think withholding usage data for money like that actually ends up being a winning proposition for a consumer (especially with telemetry systems like CEIP for which my participation has little to no marginal cost).
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