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On March 25 2012 06:32 Polis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 17 2012 13:04 xavra41 wrote: I would like to try HC but the problem is that normal difficulty is so damn easy. I dont want to snooze through a whole difficulty then die in nightmare lol. This. I would like hardcore h&s that is challenging from lvl1, that would be fun. D2 has too many tedious/ridicilously easy parts, and it looks like D3 will not be any better, and it might even be worse becouse they want to prevent rushing through dificulty levels.
Seems like you're still speaking of the beta. Beta was such a small portion of the game and they have continually upped the difficulty over and over.
I don't think anyone can make such general statements until the game releases. Lets wait for the game to come out before we say its too easy or that there are very tedious easy parts.
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I think hardcore should be losing all your money and items, and not the character itself... If it was like this, i would play hardcore, i dont even care if they made semi hardcore with the things i said above..
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On March 25 2012 08:17 Lesrah wrote: I think hardcore should be losing all your money and items, and not the character itself... If it was like this, i would play hardcore, i dont even care if they made semi hardcore with the things i said above..
This makes no absolutly no sence. How would you gear up a naked lvl60 character without gold/backup items?
I doubt the hard part of diablo 3 is to get your character to 60. Hard part will be gearing up in hell/inferno..
You could possibly play up a 60 char in a couple of days, but farming the best gear for a char can take months/years.
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On March 25 2012 08:57 Dotq wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:17 Lesrah wrote: I think hardcore should be losing all your money and items, and not the character itself... If it was like this, i would play hardcore, i dont even care if they made semi hardcore with the things i said above.. This makes no absolutly no sence. How would you gear up a naked lvl60 character without gold/backup items? I doubt the hard part of diablo 3 is to get your character to 60. Hard part will be gearing up in hell/inferno.. You could possibly play up a 60 char in a couple of days, but farming the best gear for a char can take months/years.
I think it should just disable your D3 account until you input a new serial key. THAT would be hardcore.
EDIT: In all seriousness though, don't you already lose your equipped items in addition to the character? That is basically like losing all your items, since most will run around with their best gear.
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On March 25 2012 09:07 kuresuti wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 08:57 Dotq wrote:On March 25 2012 08:17 Lesrah wrote: I think hardcore should be losing all your money and items, and not the character itself... If it was like this, i would play hardcore, i dont even care if they made semi hardcore with the things i said above.. This makes no absolutly no sence. How would you gear up a naked lvl60 character without gold/backup items? I doubt the hard part of diablo 3 is to get your character to 60. Hard part will be gearing up in hell/inferno.. You could possibly play up a 60 char in a couple of days, but farming the best gear for a char can take months/years. I think it should just disable your D3 account until you input a new serial key. THAT would be hardcore. EDIT: In all seriousness though, don't you already lose your equipped items in addition to the character? That is basically like losing all your items, since most will run around with their best gear.
Yes you lose equipped items and it seems you cant be looted by a friend.
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On March 25 2012 09:53 rezoacken wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 09:07 kuresuti wrote:On March 25 2012 08:57 Dotq wrote:On March 25 2012 08:17 Lesrah wrote: I think hardcore should be losing all your money and items, and not the character itself... If it was like this, i would play hardcore, i dont even care if they made semi hardcore with the things i said above.. This makes no absolutly no sence. How would you gear up a naked lvl60 character without gold/backup items? I doubt the hard part of diablo 3 is to get your character to 60. Hard part will be gearing up in hell/inferno.. You could possibly play up a 60 char in a couple of days, but farming the best gear for a char can take months/years. I think it should just disable your D3 account until you input a new serial key. THAT would be hardcore. EDIT: In all seriousness though, don't you already lose your equipped items in addition to the character? That is basically like losing all your items, since most will run around with their best gear. Yes you lose equipped items and it seems you cant be looted by a friend.
Is it like Diablo 2 where you lose your items until you go back to your corpse?
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On March 25 2012 11:16 zJayy962 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 09:53 rezoacken wrote:On March 25 2012 09:07 kuresuti wrote:On March 25 2012 08:57 Dotq wrote:On March 25 2012 08:17 Lesrah wrote: I think hardcore should be losing all your money and items, and not the character itself... If it was like this, i would play hardcore, i dont even care if they made semi hardcore with the things i said above.. This makes no absolutly no sence. How would you gear up a naked lvl60 character without gold/backup items? I doubt the hard part of diablo 3 is to get your character to 60. Hard part will be gearing up in hell/inferno.. You could possibly play up a 60 char in a couple of days, but farming the best gear for a char can take months/years. I think it should just disable your D3 account until you input a new serial key. THAT would be hardcore. EDIT: In all seriousness though, don't you already lose your equipped items in addition to the character? That is basically like losing all your items, since most will run around with their best gear. Yes you lose equipped items and it seems you cant be looted by a friend. Is it like Diablo 2 where you lose your items until you go back to your corpse?
Items on your body and in inventory is lost. Gold and items in shared stash + Crafter(blacksmith) level is not lost.
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On March 25 2012 12:13 Dotq wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 11:16 zJayy962 wrote:On March 25 2012 09:53 rezoacken wrote:On March 25 2012 09:07 kuresuti wrote:On March 25 2012 08:57 Dotq wrote:On March 25 2012 08:17 Lesrah wrote: I think hardcore should be losing all your money and items, and not the character itself... If it was like this, i would play hardcore, i dont even care if they made semi hardcore with the things i said above.. This makes no absolutly no sence. How would you gear up a naked lvl60 character without gold/backup items? I doubt the hard part of diablo 3 is to get your character to 60. Hard part will be gearing up in hell/inferno.. You could possibly play up a 60 char in a couple of days, but farming the best gear for a char can take months/years. I think it should just disable your D3 account until you input a new serial key. THAT would be hardcore. EDIT: In all seriousness though, don't you already lose your equipped items in addition to the character? That is basically like losing all your items, since most will run around with their best gear. Yes you lose equipped items and it seems you cant be looted by a friend. Is it like Diablo 2 where you lose your items until you go back to your corpse? Items on your body and in inventory is lost. Gold and items in shared stash + Crafter(blacksmith) level is not lost.
When you die in softcore, your items are lost? Im confused. Thats very new.
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Aah. I remember losing a level 85 paladin with semi-good gear... had hoto, stone armor (or was it fort? It was something cheaper than enigma, that's for sure), dual fcr rings, and even a few +1 combat skill gc's. I made that paladin in like 3 weeks, and he died when I switched windows (in hell mode) to get to my BO barb.
The whole reason i levelled a barb to level 60 was to make it safer for my paladin to do HC runs... and I died because I was using my barb at that moment!
Good thing I muled off the soj I found the day prior.
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On March 25 2012 12:22 zJayy962 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 12:13 Dotq wrote:On March 25 2012 11:16 zJayy962 wrote:On March 25 2012 09:53 rezoacken wrote:On March 25 2012 09:07 kuresuti wrote:On March 25 2012 08:57 Dotq wrote:On March 25 2012 08:17 Lesrah wrote: I think hardcore should be losing all your money and items, and not the character itself... If it was like this, i would play hardcore, i dont even care if they made semi hardcore with the things i said above.. This makes no absolutly no sence. How would you gear up a naked lvl60 character without gold/backup items? I doubt the hard part of diablo 3 is to get your character to 60. Hard part will be gearing up in hell/inferno.. You could possibly play up a 60 char in a couple of days, but farming the best gear for a char can take months/years. I think it should just disable your D3 account until you input a new serial key. THAT would be hardcore. EDIT: In all seriousness though, don't you already lose your equipped items in addition to the character? That is basically like losing all your items, since most will run around with their best gear. Yes you lose equipped items and it seems you cant be looted by a friend. Is it like Diablo 2 where you lose your items until you go back to your corpse? Items on your body and in inventory is lost. Gold and items in shared stash + Crafter(blacksmith) level is not lost. When you die in softcore, your items are lost? Im confused. Thats very new.
This discussion is about HC:p Softcore u only lose some gold // repairs and you dont have to loot your body.
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show your skills - play hardcore!
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Don't you guys ever get bored out of your skull playing it safe in hardcore?
ok, to clarify. The reason I never really played hardcore myself was always that many of the situations where I die in softcore was something I sort of stepped in myself... "I wonder if my summoner necro can kill duriel without Iron Maiden..." or "there is only 1 oblivion knight, if I leap attack him before he can get the curse off..." or something challenging, to .. you know... challenge myself in a game that really wasn't very hard. But I'd never have dared trying anythingt remotely risky if it meant losing my character and items alltogether if I failed/died.
So for the hardcore people... how do you avoid playing the game so safe it gets boring? Are you just taking the same risks with 150x the adrenaline level?
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Playing softcore is like playing an arcade game with an unlimited lives cheat on. Sure you get to finish the game without the inconvenience of starting again, but how are you ever going to feel excited, when death never matters?
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On March 13 2012 07:41 Nihilnovi wrote:I can summarize hardcore in one sentence: You feel alive before you die.
Well said. That's the essence of hardcore. Thread can be closed now.
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Game is called Diablo, not Rainbow and Kittens.
I beat D2 a lot of times, it's easy as shit. HC is appealing because it tests you and makes a boring game fun again.
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On March 25 2012 20:08 Zyndrumz wrote: Don't you guys ever get bored out of your skull playing it safe in hardcore?
ok, to clarify. The reason I never really played hardcore myself was always that many of the situations where I die in softcore was something I sort of stepped in myself... "I wonder if my summoner necro can kill duriel without Iron Maiden..." or "there is only 1 oblivion knight, if I leap attack him before he can get the curse off..." or something challenging, to .. you know... challenge myself in a game that really wasn't very hard. But I'd never have dared trying anythingt remotely risky if it meant losing my character and items alltogether if I failed/died.
So for the hardcore people... how do you avoid playing the game so safe it gets boring? Are you just taking the same risks with 150x the adrenaline level? Same risks just a lot more fun doing them
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On March 25 2012 20:08 Zyndrumz wrote: Don't you guys ever get bored out of your skull playing it safe in hardcore?
ok, to clarify. The reason I never really played hardcore myself was always that many of the situations where I die in softcore was something I sort of stepped in myself... "I wonder if my summoner necro can kill duriel without Iron Maiden..." or "there is only 1 oblivion knight, if I leap attack him before he can get the curse off..." or something challenging, to .. you know... challenge myself in a game that really wasn't very hard. But I'd never have dared trying anythingt remotely risky if it meant losing my character and items alltogether if I failed/died.
So for the hardcore people... how do you avoid playing the game so safe it gets boring? Are you just taking the same risks with 150x the adrenaline level?
Haha, you just outed yourself as a SC Noob!
Leap Attack is a ranged attack, so IM did not reflect the damage.
And yes, I take all the risks, in the mod I am playing, that means I access all the content, which includes Monsters that can hit insanely hard, and if they roll a critical strike, they will one-hit me.
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On March 25 2012 20:08 Zyndrumz wrote: Don't you guys ever get bored out of your skull playing it safe in hardcore?
ok, to clarify. The reason I never really played hardcore myself was always that many of the situations where I die in softcore was something I sort of stepped in myself... "I wonder if my summoner necro can kill duriel without Iron Maiden..." or "there is only 1 oblivion knight, if I leap attack him before he can get the curse off..." or something challenging, to .. you know... challenge myself in a game that really wasn't very hard. But I'd never have dared trying anythingt remotely risky if it meant losing my character and items alltogether if I failed/died.
So for the hardcore people... how do you avoid playing the game so safe it gets boring? Are you just taking the same risks with 150x the adrenaline level?
In short, for me, I always keep a softcore character main to mess about on. Hardcore is more fun, but I'd always play softcore first to get a character to learn the game with and have to play with when I just want to mess about, but the satisfaction of achieving things with a hardcore character is something that just doesn't happen in softcore.
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On March 26 2012 02:43 Rimstalker wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 20:08 Zyndrumz wrote: Don't you guys ever get bored out of your skull playing it safe in hardcore?
ok, to clarify. The reason I never really played hardcore myself was always that many of the situations where I die in softcore was something I sort of stepped in myself... "I wonder if my summoner necro can kill duriel without Iron Maiden..." or "there is only 1 oblivion knight, if I leap attack him before he can get the curse off..." or something challenging, to .. you know... challenge myself in a game that really wasn't very hard. But I'd never have dared trying anythingt remotely risky if it meant losing my character and items alltogether if I failed/died.
So for the hardcore people... how do you avoid playing the game so safe it gets boring? Are you just taking the same risks with 150x the adrenaline level? Haha, you just outed yourself as a SC Noob! Leap Attack is a ranged attack, so IM did not reflect the damage. And yes, I take all the risks, in the mod I am playing, that means I access all the content, which includes Monsters that can hit insanely hard, and if they roll a critical strike, they will one-hit me.
Damnit! well I never thought I'd get smarter on Diablo 2 so many years later...
and yes, I did spend a full minute wondering how this would tell you anything about my skills in Starcraft...
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On March 26 2012 03:53 Zyndrumz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 02:43 Rimstalker wrote:On March 25 2012 20:08 Zyndrumz wrote: Don't you guys ever get bored out of your skull playing it safe in hardcore?
ok, to clarify. The reason I never really played hardcore myself was always that many of the situations where I die in softcore was something I sort of stepped in myself... "I wonder if my summoner necro can kill duriel without Iron Maiden..." or "there is only 1 oblivion knight, if I leap attack him before he can get the curse off..." or something challenging, to .. you know... challenge myself in a game that really wasn't very hard. But I'd never have dared trying anythingt remotely risky if it meant losing my character and items alltogether if I failed/died.
So for the hardcore people... how do you avoid playing the game so safe it gets boring? Are you just taking the same risks with 150x the adrenaline level? Haha, you just outed yourself as a SC Noob! Leap Attack is a ranged attack, so IM did not reflect the damage. And yes, I take all the risks, in the mod I am playing, that means I access all the content, which includes Monsters that can hit insanely hard, and if they roll a critical strike, they will one-hit me. Damnit! well I never thought I'd get smarter on Diablo 2 so many years later... and yes, I did spend a full minute wondering how this would tell you anything about my skills in Starcraft... ...think he meant SC as in SoftCore, not StarCraft -.-
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