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-I absolutely hate the wailing host ring lol. I believe a dps boost could easily come from this w/ a super cheap 2-3m ring w/ cc/cd/avg dmg
why?
im using wailing host + litany to farm mp 5 scramble archon, i think statwise they are the best rings. i know i could get a little bit more damage out of other rings but i would lose alot of defense. also nice for getting to max mf.
http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/momothedog-2345/Lyhlit/10187162
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On November 02 2012 18:34 Ammorphalisk wrote: jESUIT I am using windforce for my scoundrel with SoJ with cold damage to chill (for cold blooded) and knock back the mobs and amulet with AS to fire very fast, but Burzia seems better as it, pierces (chills the mobs in the back), sometimes freezes and most importantly don't need SoJ (it has cold damage in it), so frees a slot for another Exp/MF ring, I will consider getting one, although for elites knockback from Windforce may be better (as pierce doesn't matter much) and I already kill regular mobs very fast. About the hysteria passive I'm not very sure - "Whenever you or the Scoundrel land a Critical Hit, you both will go into hysterics, increasing all damage done by 10% for 3 seconds. This effect cannot occur more than once every 6 seconds." This means it will work at most 50% of the time, and you don't make crit hits all the time, so more like 40%. this means 4% dmg increase, 3% CC for me gives me about 3.7% dps increase (with better CD it will give more, mine is not that good), but it also cause more procs for CM and regenerates archon and diamond skin more often.
Wein, Ice climbers are good, you can get MS from Tyrael's might armor, you'll lose about 100 intelligence, but will gain more All resistance, MS and 4% dmg to elites and 12-14% dmg to daemons, which IMO compensates for the intelligence, and they are not very expensive. Other good choice is Zunimassa's trail which gives more DPS and have MS, but is more expensive (and I personally don't like them aesthetically, as they are meant for witch doctor). Mempo with proper rolls is BiS for wizard, but It's VERY expensive. You can get Tal rasha's guise of Wisdom for a lot of life (your HP seems low). Look for 150+ int, 80+ Vit, 11+% to life, 5.5% CC, it'll decrease your dps, but will give a lot of life and you'll get rid of the % from fire. And it'll also give you socket which is great for helm - 25+% exp, MF or big % to life. Other choice if you prefer DPS is storm's crow, but It's not that much better than your Andariel anyway. You may consider getting Stone of Jordan ring (29%+ damage vs elites) as well, I think it'll give you more dps (vs elites) than any of your rings. I think you can get better amulet for less than 10M also. If you increase your life and all resistance (with Tyrael, tal rasha's guise and ice climbers) you may switch Prismatic armor to pinpoint barrier which will give you nice DPS boost or to Storm armor with scramble for additional damage and move speed when hit.
Well if ur cc% is low i'd stick w/ the extra increase in CC. I don't think you can change it now anyways after you have already set it. Idk I have never done much w/ my followers just set them and kinda left them after geared lol. The knockback is nice yes I agree I used to have a DH and it helped amazingly.
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On November 02 2012 20:24 momothedog wrote:Show nested quote +-I absolutely hate the wailing host ring lol. I believe a dps boost could easily come from this w/ a super cheap 2-3m ring w/ cc/cd/avg dmg why? im using wailing host + litany to farm mp 5 scramble archon, i think statwise they are the best rings. i know i could get a little bit more damage out of other rings but i would lose alot of defense. also nice for getting to max mf. http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/momothedog-2345/Lyhlit/10187162
Wasnt speaking about wailing host + litany as a whole...I just didn't like HIS wailing host. It was a crappy ring in my opinion. Yes I agree they can be very great rings. I sold a litany the other day for around 350m in AH so I am aware of how good they can be. But his he could sacrafice for something much better for not a whole lot.
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On November 02 2012 20:24 momothedog wrote:Show nested quote +-I absolutely hate the wailing host ring lol. I believe a dps boost could easily come from this w/ a super cheap 2-3m ring w/ cc/cd/avg dmg why? im using wailing host + litany to farm mp 5 scramble archon, i think statwise they are the best rings. i know i could get a little bit more damage out of other rings but i would lose alot of defense. also nice for getting to max mf. http://www.diabloprogress.com/hero/momothedog-2345/Lyhlit/10187162
I like ur gear ur almost geared exaaactly the same as me. How do you survive anything higher then mp3 though with that amount of life and no all resistance? Why did you choose penetrating blast by the way?? Am I mistaken? or does it proc archon?? i didn't ever think of being as a legit quick way to reproc archon.
https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323
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You can change the follower's abilities - right click on their portrait and Retrain.
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I like ur gear ur almost geared exaaactly the same as me. How do you survive anything higher then mp3 though with that amount of life and no all resistance? Why did you choose penetrating blast by the way?? Am I mistaken? or does it proc archon?? i didn't ever think of being as a legit quick way to reproc archon. https://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/ZyceR-1205/hero/23962323
ah this build is very misleading, i played this in some public game. usually i play the standard forked lightning/ teleport archon with scramble armor. i dunno which items were showing but i updated my diabloprogresprofile, i have 3800 armor 580 ar (ehp shows 300k) and its relaxed in mp4, mp5 was a little exaggerated mb )
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Depends what are u going for? and u have a very interesting build lol. If you wanted to stick with that build...You could really use some items that have "arcane power on crit" so you could use Blizzard and stuff more often.. Right now your just playing on just your mana pool which is super slow and somewhat hurting yourself...If you had some arcane power on crit you could really bump that blizzard up 2-3x more often and kill that much faster. Idk why you also use that storm armor. If you wanted more survivability you should swap to Prismatic Armor, esp with your extremely low All Resist you could use all the help you could get especially in higher MP or else you will get tore up...Idk what your budget looks like but with your build you could use a good 1handed weap + source. Although not really that necessary but could help w/ the extra arcane on crit + higher crit chance. I'm not a big fan of using 2H for Wiz unless it's something like orb/hydra where a slower attack speed will give u higher crit dmg. In your case it doesn't really matter. I loooooooooooove the life regeneration. I used to use orb/hydra build w/ around 2400 life regen and I almost never died...I could even stand in Desc/Molten/Plagued and not even get hurt it was wonderful. But if u wanted to use life regen to the fullest you have way to much life. It works something like this.
The trick to using regen properly works like so. Life regen should be based on a % of ur life esp if ur going to use the illusionist passive + Energy armor(Force armor) Illusionist = You suffer more then 15% of life ur cooldown is reset. Energy armor(Force armor) = No matter the incoming attack damage if dealt more then 35% will automatically be reduced to 35% health.
So works like this. Lets say you have 40k life. Incoming attack does 30k of health dmg...Force armor takes that..and automatically turns it into only a 14khp attack. 40k hp - 14k hp = 26k hp(more than 15% so ur illusionist/teleport is reset) Well in order to refill ur life in a good amount of time...lets say 7 seconds...You would need exactly 2k life regen.
SO! For 40k hp you would need 2k life regen to refill in 7 seconds so you could actually...reset ur teleport every 7 seconds...(seems long right??)
Lets lower it to...30k hp 30,000-10500(35% force armor) = 19,500hp In order to replace that 10,500 life in lets say 7 seconds again..You would only need 1500 life regen... So in the case of using Force Armor w/ Illusionist passive...+ the life regen...The lower your HP + more life regen the faster you can recover from ANY hit. So in this case...It actually is...more beneficial to have lower life. I used to have 2400 life regen w/ 31k hp on my orb/hydra build and I almost never died..This was also pre-patch 1.0.5 and I could solo anything in inferno from 1.0.3-(pre)1.0.5 31khp(35%[10850]) = I could refill my life back to 100% in under 5 seconds. It was awesome especially w/ around 700 AR People truly underestimate how good life regen can be. if you know exactly how to work it.
Sorry for long article I hope I helped explain this so people could understand the true potential. edit: this is obviously purely Kiting builds...will not work for archon / tank builds that take constant damage. This is for when u get that 1 hit of mortar..or that 1 phasebeast gets u or something along those lines.
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On November 02 2012 22:23 momothedog wrote:ah this build is very misleading, i played this in some public game. usually i play the standard forked lightning/ teleport archon with scramble armor. i dunno which items were showing but i updated my diabloprogresprofile, i have 3800 armor 580 ar (ehp shows 300k) and its relaxed in mp4, mp5 was a little exaggerated mb )
Ahh okay yea I'm @ EHP: 326,474 DPS unbuffed: 164,294.72 Heroscore: 11,793
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http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TheMooseHeed-2371/hero/17449637
I have 60 mil to spend but I am not sure what to get. I could get a witching hour to boost my dps 20k but I am already quite squishy so I think I may die to often. I mean I could upgrade my zuni boots for ones with +40 all res but that seems like a small improvement for 60 mil.... Would it be worth switching out my weapon/source for a skorn maybe?
edit* Skorn for that price doesnt net any gains on stat calculator it seems
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TheMooseHeed, you may change the talrasha helm with one with All res, sneak some vitality on the left ring, and then you'll be fine to get witching hour, which then will be the best dps upgrade per price.
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I'm kinda stuck lately and don't know which part to improve anymore, at least at reasonable pricing, still my DPS is pretty low compared to a lot of people. Any ideas? Right now I only have 8 mil to spend though... for the past 4 days nobody wanted to buy my stuff... even though it's not really bad stuff and I'm posting the lowest prices already -.-
http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PandaCore-1864/hero/4941341
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On November 03 2012 01:18 PandaCore wrote:I'm kinda stuck lately and don't know which part to improve anymore, at least at reasonable pricing, still my DPS is pretty low compared to a lot of people. Any ideas? Right now I only have 8 mil to spend though... for the past 4 days nobody wanted to buy my stuff... even though it's not really bad stuff and I'm posting the lowest prices already -.- http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PandaCore-1864/hero/4941341
hmmm for some simple upgrades...You could easily upgrade all the garbage gem's in ur gear to atleast star's...I think a star is around 500k atm. If it's DPS ur looking for...you could grab a decent upgrade on some new rings...w/ cd/cc...u don't need as much ias because ur not going CM build and ur in archon...in Archon u should merely focus on mass dps, the ias is good for the CM cooldown but in my opinion as I tell everyone...if you aren't in archon in 90-100% of the time your just farming inefficiently and clearly the only way to bump that archon % up is to get more dps. I like the pants, the chest is all great...the mass int/vit/AR is perfect..great choice on those...the vile wards are decent no needed upgrade there...Another thing I noticed you could squeeze out some better boots for some more AR if u wanted...thats a personal choice. A new helm is almost a must...you could clearly get a muchhh better helm...Infact...the stormcrow doesn't do much for you because your build doesn't require Arcane on crit..so that's actually a huge wasted slot..try and find something w/ some 4-6% cc for a huge boost in dps...as well w/ AR + int (socket, if prices are there), the weapon is great at ur price level it's black so it goes well the trium...But obviously the biggest increases in dps are going to be, upping ur intelligence, higher crit chance, w/ higher crit dmg...IAS is a plus but it doesn't increase ur dps as much as some good old fashion cc/cd/avg dmg rings would. IAS is also somewhat wasted on ur build because archon doesn't really require it but clearly ias does increase dps somewhat.
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On November 03 2012 02:22 jESUIT wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 03 2012 01:18 PandaCore wrote:I'm kinda stuck lately and don't know which part to improve anymore, at least at reasonable pricing, still my DPS is pretty low compared to a lot of people. Any ideas? Right now I only have 8 mil to spend though... for the past 4 days nobody wanted to buy my stuff... even though it's not really bad stuff and I'm posting the lowest prices already -.- http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PandaCore-1864/hero/4941341 hmmm for some simple upgrades...You could easily upgrade all the garbage gem's in ur gear to atleast star's...I think a star is around 500k atm. If it's DPS ur looking for...you could grab a decent upgrade on some new rings...w/ cd/cc...u don't need as much ias because ur not going CM build and ur in archon...in Archon u should merely focus on mass dps, the ias is good for the CM cooldown but in my opinion as I tell everyone...if you aren't in archon in 90-100% of the time your just farming inefficiently and clearly the only way to bump that archon % up is to get more dps. I like the pants, the chest is all great...the mass int/vit/AR is perfect..great choice on those...the vile wards are decent no needed upgrade there...Another thing I noticed you could squeeze out some better boots for some more AR if u wanted...thats a personal choice. A new helm is almost a must...you could clearly get a muchhh better helm...Infact...the stormcrow doesn't do much for you because your build doesn't require Arcane on crit..so that's actually a huge wasted slot..try and find something w/ some 4-6% cc for a huge boost in dps...as well w/ AR + int (socket, if prices are there), the weapon is great at ur price level it's black so it goes well the trium...But obviously the biggest increases in dps are going to be, upping ur intelligence, higher crit chance, w/ higher crit dmg...IAS is a plus but it doesn't increase ur dps as much as some good old fashion cc/cd/avg dmg rings would. IAS is also somewhat wasted on ur build because archon doesn't really require it but clearly ias does increase dps somewhat. Thanks for taking the time
When I get home I'll check if I can find another headpiece (though I like the 'adds 8% to lightning damage' and the occassional fire orb), better boots (actually just wearing the firewalkers for novelty reasons) and maybe better jewelry.
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On November 03 2012 00:59 TheMooseHeed wrote:http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/TheMooseHeed-2371/hero/17449637I have 60 mil to spend but I am not sure what to get. I could get a witching hour to boost my dps 20k but I am already quite squishy so I think I may die to often. I mean I could upgrade my zuni boots for ones with +40 all res but that seems like a small improvement for 60 mil.... Would it be worth switching out my weapon/source for a skorn maybe? edit* Skorn for that price doesnt net any gains on stat calculator it seems
You did what a lot of other people do and I find it extremely odd. You guys stack increased attack speed as to try and counter ur archon and "get" back into archon faster. I find this is the wrong way to build. Im not saying avoid ias items but it's defintly better on a smaller budget to just go pure dps so you can do higher then mp1-2 and then if u need to stack on ias then u can. Great weapon - i love it I have 1 similar to it just w/ about 100 more dps. drop left ring and see if u can get one w/ cd/cc/avg dmg/int im not sure of prices on jewerly nowadays but that will give u huuuge dps boost. I like the lacuni's/depth diggers./ the tals chest is great/ good vile wards/ awesome ammy/ thats exactly what im talking about... high ass cd/cc/avg dmg(PURE DPS) =] (need to find ring like this lol) / But yes if you want the witching hour...you may have to drop the tals helm for something w/ lower int/higher vit/socket/cc maybe drop to like 4.5cc/ unfortunately ur belt is most defensive piece...so in that case you'd be going straight purely offensive lol. Same w/ gloves?// maybe drop some int/add vit/cc/cd/AR im not sure on price of this item tho maybe 10-15m
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On November 03 2012 02:32 PandaCore wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 02:22 jESUIT wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On November 03 2012 01:18 PandaCore wrote:I'm kinda stuck lately and don't know which part to improve anymore, at least at reasonable pricing, still my DPS is pretty low compared to a lot of people. Any ideas? Right now I only have 8 mil to spend though... for the past 4 days nobody wanted to buy my stuff... even though it's not really bad stuff and I'm posting the lowest prices already -.- http://eu.battle.net/d3/en/profile/PandaCore-1864/hero/4941341 hmmm for some simple upgrades...You could easily upgrade all the garbage gem's in ur gear to atleast star's...I think a star is around 500k atm. If it's DPS ur looking for...you could grab a decent upgrade on some new rings...w/ cd/cc...u don't need as much ias because ur not going CM build and ur in archon...in Archon u should merely focus on mass dps, the ias is good for the CM cooldown but in my opinion as I tell everyone...if you aren't in archon in 90-100% of the time your just farming inefficiently and clearly the only way to bump that archon % up is to get more dps. I like the pants, the chest is all great...the mass int/vit/AR is perfect..great choice on those...the vile wards are decent no needed upgrade there...Another thing I noticed you could squeeze out some better boots for some more AR if u wanted...thats a personal choice. A new helm is almost a must...you could clearly get a muchhh better helm...Infact...the stormcrow doesn't do much for you because your build doesn't require Arcane on crit..so that's actually a huge wasted slot..try and find something w/ some 4-6% cc for a huge boost in dps...as well w/ AR + int (socket, if prices are there), the weapon is great at ur price level it's black so it goes well the trium...But obviously the biggest increases in dps are going to be, upping ur intelligence, higher crit chance, w/ higher crit dmg...IAS is a plus but it doesn't increase ur dps as much as some good old fashion cc/cd/avg dmg rings would. IAS is also somewhat wasted on ur build because archon doesn't really require it but clearly ias does increase dps somewhat. Thanks for taking the time When I get home I'll check if I can find another headpiece (though I like the 'adds 8% to lightning damage' and the occassional fire orb), better boots (actually just wearing the firewalkers for novelty reasons) and maybe better jewelry.
Well if you like it that much...there are stormcrow's w/ cc but their crazy expensive lol
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What is the goal for attacks per sec for the cm/ww build? I got into my wiz and think I may have overdone ias which hurts my overall dps since I can't afford ias,cd, and cc on everything so I mostly left out cd for now.
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my friend found this, nice name
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On November 03 2012 02:50 Charger wrote: What is the goal for attacks per sec for the cm/ww build? I got into my wiz and think I may have overdone ias which hurts my overall dps since I can't afford ias,cd, and cc on everything so I mostly left out cd for now. Fear not! You can never have too much APS running that build. Ideally you want 2.73+ APS, and realistically you will need ~2.5+. For CC, aim at 40% overall. For CD, don't worry about it until APS+CC are squared away. CD does not improve the mechanics of the build -- it only increases raw dmg.
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On November 03 2012 04:02 FallDownMarigold wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2012 02:50 Charger wrote: What is the goal for attacks per sec for the cm/ww build? I got into my wiz and think I may have overdone ias which hurts my overall dps since I can't afford ias,cd, and cc on everything so I mostly left out cd for now. Fear not! You can never have too much APS running that build. Ideally you want 2.73+ APS, and realistically you will need ~2.5+. For CC, aim at 40% overall. For CD, don't worry about it until APS+CC are squared away. CD does not improve the mechanics of the build -- it only increases raw dmg.
Damn haha, I'm only at 2.4 :p CC seems to be ok tho. Damn that's a ton of as...fml
But thank you :D <3
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