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The more I read about the new expansion, the more I realise that my sorc is powerful due to what is believed to be glitches and design flaws. Such as - my archon build (archon not supposed to be permanent according to their philosophy) - my cm/ww build (lulz permafreeze) - the black weapon + elemantal damage I base my archon dps on - the high stacked ias i base my cm/ww gear on - the method I used to get all the gear (AH).
It will indeed be an entirely new game for my sorc when all that is "fixed".
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On October 04 2013 16:25 Cascade wrote: The more I read about the new expansion, the more I realise that my sorc is powerful due to what is believed to be glitches and design flaws. Such as - my archon build (archon not supposed to be permanent according to their philosophy) - my cm/ww build (lulz permafreeze) - the black weapon + elemantal damage I base my archon dps on - the high stacked ias i base my cm/ww gear on - the method I used to get all the gear (AH).
It will indeed be an entirely new game for my sorc when all that is "fixed". yup. wizard is at its core a very gimped class, not much better than dh. the only things that separate wiz from dh are 1.) cm and 2.) archon.
same goes for barbs, which would actually be a horrible class if it were not for two overpowered skill synergies: perma sprint and perma wotb.
dh is equivalently flawed, but lacks the overpowered skills to make up for that. imho monk and wd are the only classes that are well-designed.
lets hope that d3's shortcomings in terms of itemization and class design wont end up killing the game in the long run... (similarly to how sc2's fundamental flaws now, after 3 years of success and hype, are starting to materialize and kill off the scene.) this bug fix might be a step in the right direction.
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Who cares? No one will want iLvL 63 weapons anyway after the expansion hits.
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Papua New Guinea1053 Posts
On October 04 2013 20:02 zf wrote: Who cares? No one will want iLvL 63 weapons anyway after the expansion hits. Who cares? Dude, most of the players were using this 'bug', if you think it's insiginificant, then you're most likely clueless about the game, ignorant or just stupid.
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On October 04 2013 22:29 HornyHerring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 20:02 zf wrote: Who cares? No one will want iLvL 63 weapons anyway after the expansion hits. Who cares? Dude, most of the players were using this 'bug', if you think it's insiginificant, then you're most likely clueless about the game, ignorant or just stupid.
Well, maybe he could have stated it more sensitively, but his point shouldn't be dismissed so easily. Given Loot 2.0, our current weapons will likely take us from 60 to 70 and then we'll want to upgrade. Sure, we are all speculating now, but "you're most likely clueless about the game" if you blindly assume our current weapons can compete with the as-yet-revealed options.
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Papua New Guinea1053 Posts
Yes I assume that, since this prefix wont work as it once did, itemization will be different. Non-elemental weapons will no longer be priority and will not provide the bonus they once did. It's a nerf and it changed the way people are going to equip their characters and applies to every weapon after the patch, even the newly dropped ones. So yea it matters.
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On October 04 2013 22:29 HornyHerring wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 20:02 zf wrote: Who cares? No one will want iLvL 63 weapons anyway after the expansion hits. Who cares? Dude, most of the players were using this 'bug', if you think it's insiginificant, then you're most likely clueless about the game, ignorant or just stupid.
I hope you are aware that they do not plan to release Loot 2.0 before the expansion.
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On October 05 2013 01:14 willoc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2013 22:29 HornyHerring wrote:On October 04 2013 20:02 zf wrote: Who cares? No one will want iLvL 63 weapons anyway after the expansion hits. Who cares? Dude, most of the players were using this 'bug', if you think it's insiginificant, then you're most likely clueless about the game, ignorant or just stupid. I hope you are aware that they do not plan to release Loot 2.0 before the expansion.
Actually they do. Patch 2.0 will come out before the expansion and include loot 2.0, paragon 2.0, etc. my guess is the exact day the AHs shutdown, and the expansion releases a few weeks afterwards.
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9679139107?page=1#19
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On October 05 2013 01:03 HornyHerring wrote: Yes I assume that, since this prefix wont work as it once did, itemization will be different. Non-elemental weapons will no longer be priority and will not provide the bonus they once did. It's a nerf and it changed the way people are going to equip their characters and applies to every weapon after the patch, even the newly dropped ones. So yea it matters.
Yes, itemization will be different, but was always going to be different given the changes in max level, changes in skills, changes in legendaries, changes in affixes (e.g., X% damage to element), addition of elemental damage effects, etc. I took it for granted that the current best weapons wouldn't be the best possible weapons post-patch/expansion.
On October 05 2013 01:57 Burrfoot wrote:Actually they do. Patch 2.0 will come out before the expansion and include loot 2.0, paragon 2.0, etc. my guess is the exact day the AHs shutdown, and the expansion releases a few weeks afterwards. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9679139107?page=1#19
C'mon, this is Blizzard. There's no way they'll be able to hit any sort of deadline. ;-p
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On October 05 2013 01:57 Burrfoot wrote:Show nested quote +On October 05 2013 01:14 willoc wrote:On October 04 2013 22:29 HornyHerring wrote:On October 04 2013 20:02 zf wrote: Who cares? No one will want iLvL 63 weapons anyway after the expansion hits. Who cares? Dude, most of the players were using this 'bug', if you think it's insiginificant, then you're most likely clueless about the game, ignorant or just stupid. I hope you are aware that they do not plan to release Loot 2.0 before the expansion. Actually they do. Patch 2.0 will come out before the expansion and include loot 2.0, paragon 2.0, etc. my guess is the exact day the AHs shutdown, and the expansion releases a few weeks afterwards. http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/9679139107?page=1#19
Good catch. Sounds like they have some mis-communication going on. I don't understand why they would fix this bug without requiring everyone to get new equipment (expansion).
If they plan to release this 1-3 weeks before the expansion, then that's basically the same as an expansion preparation patch to me (Just like the expansion preparation patches for WoW). If these facts are, indeed, true, then it shouldn't really matter (in my mind, the preparation patches are part of the expansion).
*All details subject to change*
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Pre expansion prep patches are a staple in blizzard games, if not all games that have expansions. I'd expect all the core changes to drop as described, few weeks before expansion to allow for the current playerbase to adjust and get a bit of a head start with how these changes affect the current game before expansion hits to help players better acclimate
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