[M] World War Z - Page 9
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supereddie
Netherlands151 Posts
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TelecoM
United States10583 Posts
Looks kinda epic and silly at the same time ! | ||
riotjune
United States3357 Posts
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KoKoRo
United States186 Posts
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On November 10 2012 04:43 KoKoRo wrote: Am I the only one that thinks Zombies wouldn't stand a chance in ANY society? Maybe small communities or islands but large cities and other just seem very unlikely. There's just so many ways to kill a zombie and would seem very weak to any sort of napalm(From the military) or home made fiery explosive. Blah blah blah disease spreading to other humans, be it contact or airborne, there's just so many things you can do to prevent an outbreak. That was the whole point of the book. A "realistic" scenario of how a zombie outbreak would happen. Long story short, many countries get overruned because too many people panic and political/military leaders are way too rigid and arrogant to adopt their tactics against a very different enemy. But in the end the zombies can't simply overrun everywhere and the human race adapts and fights back. But now we get retarded zombie flick number 137. | ||
D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On November 10 2012 04:43 KoKoRo wrote: Am I the only one that thinks Zombies wouldn't stand a chance in ANY society? Maybe small communities or islands but large cities and other just seem very unlikely. There's just so many ways to kill a zombie and would seem very weak to any sort of napalm(From the military) or home made fiery explosive. Blah blah blah disease spreading to other humans, be it contact or airborne, there's just so many things you can do to prevent an outbreak. There are several instances where an "outbreak" could happen and affect millions But regardless of how many die, its really silly to think that the armies of the world will be unable to deal with it. We have more than enough firepower and technology to coordinate an extermination effort much more effectively than the zombies are capable of exterminating us. Unless its an extremelly aggressive airborne virus that affects the entire world in a few days, I dont see how zombies stand a chance. They are the dream enemy from a military POV, extremelly predictable, extremelly inferior combat capacities, extremelly easy to destroy. The US alone has guns and ammo enough to survive a few zombie apocs edit: Think about Cortez and the aztecs, but "cortez" has infinitely better guns, and the aztects are a bunch of naked weaponless dudes who cant even communicate beyond "swarming this, you dig?" | ||
Sentenal
United States12397 Posts
On November 10 2012 02:56 ssxsilver wrote: What makes you so certain the mockumentary style won't work as a movie? District 9 did it pretty good job and replacing the alien/apartheid reference with a zombie apocalypse basically gives you WWZ. Obviously they wouldn't be able to do a direct carry-over, but it was the presentation of key events (Yonkers) through a series of interviews that made the book different from every zombie-related media. This "adaptation" largely ignores that. If you guys go back and reread the very first part of the novel, the preface the "Interviewer" wrote at the very beginning, you will see why they can't do it like the book. His purpose was to be as transparent as physically possible, and let the interviewees tell the entire story, with his "questions" just serving for things the reader might want to ask. With that in mind, how exactly would you make a movie, with a scale that dwarfs District 9, with many interviews that are nothing but world building, with a "main" character who is supposed to be practically invisible to the story? It can't be done. Unless you are watching the history channel with zombies. The stories told by the interviewees can be told, but for a theatrical movie, it can't be done the way the book does it. | ||
Talack
Canada2742 Posts
On November 10 2012 04:47 D10 wrote: There are several instances where an "outbreak" could happen and affect millions But regardless of how many die, its really silly to think that the armies of the world will be unable to deal with it. We have more than enough firepower and technology to coordinate an extermination effort much more effectively than the zombies are capable of exterminating us. Unless its an extremelly aggressive airborne virus that affects the entire world in a few days, I dont see how zombies stand a chance. They are the dream enemy from a military POV, extremelly predictable, extremelly inferior combat capacities, extremelly easy to destroy. The US alone has guns and ammo enough to survive a few zombie apocs edit: Think about Cortez and the aztecs, but "cortez" has infinitely better guns, and the aztects are a bunch of naked weaponless dudes who cant even communicate beyond "swarming this, you dig?" "Realistically" Bacteria, Insects, Fungus, mold and just plain old animals would wipe out the zombies within a few weeks. | ||
Al Bundy
7257 Posts
When zombies attack!: Mathematical modelling of an outbreak of zombie infection Here's the conclusion: + Show Spoiler + An outbreak of zombies infecting humans is likely to be disastrous, unless extremely aggressive tactics are employed against the undead. While aggressive quarantine may eradicate the infection, this is unlikely to happen in practice. A cure would only result in some humans surviving the outbreak, although they will still coexist with zombies. Only sufficiently frequent attacks, with increasing force, will result in eradication, assuming the available resources can be mustered in time. | ||
Wihl
Sweden472 Posts
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Golbat
United States499 Posts
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CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On November 10 2012 04:53 Sentenal wrote: If you guys need to go back and reread the very first part of the novel, the preface the "Interviewer" wrote at the very beginning, you will see why they can't do it like the book. His purpose was to be as transparent as physically possible, and let the interviewees tell the entire story, with his "questions" just serving for things the reader might want to ask. With that in mind, how exactly would you make a movie, with a scale that dwarfs District 9, with many interviews that are nothing but world building, with a "main" character who is supposed to be practically invisible to the story? It can't be done. Unless you are watching the history channel with zombies. The stories told by the interviewees can be told, but for a theatrical movie, it can't be done the way the book does it. Well, you don't include every single interview. The movie would last 10 hours. But there were plenty of action packed stories and some others with heavy emotional content, other were just simply interesting. But that would break the Hollywood structure of "handsome guy, bad stuff happens, h. guy struggles, h. guy finds a solution, everything ends up fine and dandy". HBO should have made a series out of the book. It would have kicked TWD's ass all day long. | ||
ElMeanYo
United States1032 Posts
On November 10 2012 04:55 Talack wrote: "Realistically" Bacteria, Insects, Fungus, mold and just plain old animals would wipe out the zombies within a few weeks. You need to read the book then. All of this is very convincingly explained. Basically the virus takes over the frontal lobe of the brain, and the rest of the brain dies. It infects the tissue of the zombie so that its flesh is abhorrent to all living things, hence their immunity to bacterial decay and other larger predators.. The virus also greatly reduces the decay rate of the corpses and dries their bodies out, almost like living mummies. The fact that their bodies are dry, with little fluid makes weapons that rely on concussion to mess up the human body (such as bombs, grenades and other explosives) pretty useless. Only a direct wound to the front of the head will kill a Max Brooks Zombie. There are scenes in the book where soldiers get headshots, but miss the frontal lobe and then freak out because it seems to them the zombies are invincible. They also never stop hunting prey and when they see prey they make moaning noises which attracts other zombies. Soon huge hordes of them show up because they respond to each others moans and it takes on a ripple effect. From looking at this trailer, the very fact that the zombies run does not bode well for this project. It means they have gone too far from the source material, abandoned the books basic rules. They clearly don't understand the horror of the shambling dead, going for the cheap scares instead. I don't mind movies departing from the details of the events of a book if they get the basic rules of the book correct. For example, Lord of the Rings. There were details they left out of the movies or changed a bit, but the movies stayed true to the basic rules of the books, and captured the feel of the books perfectly, imo. I hope I'm wrong and the movie turns out to be good, but it doesn't seem to do justice to the book already and they should just call it something else. At least maybe it will get a few more people to read the book. | ||
Brett
Australia3820 Posts
Looks TERRIBLE based off that trailer | ||
phANT1m
South Africa535 Posts
Time to go hunt me the book and start hacking away at the pages :D. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Noev
United States1105 Posts
On November 10 2012 05:21 ticklishmusic wrote: I don't know... it seems like all it keeps is the scenario. It could be basically any zombocalypse movie. Yeah the only thing that excites me is every zombie movie ever either starts with a guy waking up after everything has collapsed or a group hide away while it does. Either way you never get to see the government response or what the world looks like. While this movie might deviate from the book in several ways i'm just excited to see how the film makers portray the global response. It has to potential to be a really good and creative movie even if it isn't a shot for shot make of the book. | ||
FlyingToilet
United States840 Posts
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
On November 10 2012 05:03 ElMeanYo wrote: You need to read the book then. All of this is very convincingly explained. Basically the virus takes over the frontal lobe of the brain, and the rest of the brain dies. It infects the tissue of the zombie so that its flesh is abhorrent to all living things, hence their immunity to bacterial decay and other larger predators.. The virus also greatly reduces the decay rate of the corpses and dries their bodies out, almost like living mummies. The fact that their bodies are dry, with little fluid makes weapons that rely on concussion to mess up the human body (such as bombs, grenades and other explosives) pretty useless. Only a direct wound to the front of the head will kill a Max Brooks Zombie. There are scenes in the book where soldiers get headshots, but miss the frontal lobe and then freak out because it seems to them the zombies are invincible. They also never stop hunting prey and when they see prey they make moaning noises which attracts other zombies. Soon huge hordes of them show up because they respond to each others moans and it takes on a ripple effect. From looking at this trailer, the very fact that the zombies run does not bode well for this project. It means they have gone too far from the source material, abandoned the books basic rules. They clearly don't understand the horror of the shambling dead, going for the cheap scares instead. I don't mind movies departing from the details of the events of a book if they get the basic rules of the book correct. For example, Lord of the Rings. There were details they left out of the movies or changed a bit, but the movies stayed true to the basic rules of the books, and captured the feel of the books perfectly, imo. I hope I'm wrong and the movie turns out to be good, but it doesn't seem to do justice to the book already and they should just call it something else. At least maybe it will get a few more people to read the book. Still, do you agree with me that even Max Brooks zombies would be easily eliminated by whatever remained for lets say.. the US military forces. | ||
CrimsonLotus
Colombia1123 Posts
On November 10 2012 06:01 D10 wrote: Still, do you agree with me that even Max Brooks zombies would be easily eliminated by whatever remained for lets say.. the US military forces. They are in the books... in the end. | ||
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