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I watched the first 4 episodes and I'm kind of disappointed.
First of Hannibal isn't even trying to be smart in his manipulation (Every averagely intelligent individual would notice that something is wrong and that he is probably trying to manipulate him in whatever way and for whichever reason)
Secondly the show doesn't even try to be scientific and accurate to criminal profiling
And lastly I really don't see either of the main characters as being intellectuals making so many counterintuitive decisions.
I'll probably keep watching though because I'm extremely lazy.
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hannibal: Did you take responsibility, when you were attacked by your patient?
his psychiatrist: Yes, but I don't take responsibility for his death.
*pause*
hannibal: Nor should you.
heh heh heh
can't wait for ep 9
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On May 11 2013 21:06 levelnoobz wrote:Show nested quote +On May 11 2013 20:21 Pulimuli wrote:On May 11 2013 19:47 maybenexttime wrote:On May 11 2013 19:33 une_certaine_verve wrote: Honest question: Wouldn't people become ill after eating human flesh? Especially Hannibal, who hypothetically consumes it fairly often. Is human meat special in some way? you can get a certain disease (dont know what its called) but its very similar to mad cow disease when you eat human meat http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuru_(disease)From what I read eating people who were sick (more specifically eating their brain) caused the disease, but not the consumption of human flesh in general... Kinda like mad cow. You won't catch it from eating a cow. Kuru is mostly from eating human brains; similar prion disease such as vCJD (mad cow~human variant) can be gotten from consuming a cow who's had BSE (mad cow).
Also; the fight scene between tobias and hannibal. Really enjoyed the audio track they had during the fight scene. It created a very heightened tension.
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On May 16 2013 08:19 teapot wrote: Ugh. Just watched some of this. Boy is this show repellent.
Hannibal TV series is to Silence of the Lambs/Manhunter as 50 Shades of Grey is to Twilight. It seems to be scripted by some massive Lecter fangirl. LOL, Oooh, he's so sophisticated, he wears tailored suits. Ooooh, he recognizes perfume. Squeeeeeee. Can I make a cannibal joke now? <3
Everything is hollow and emotionless. All the weirdos on the Force seem to have teleported in from Bizarro land, and do not behave in any way reminiscent of Human Beings. A pity for Hugh Dancy who is playing the only interesting character on the show. But even he seems to be descending into madness like one of those spiral optical illusions that always seems to be moving but not going anywhere. I wonder how long they will drag that out for, well presumably until his beautiful female colleague goes missing...
Yeah, it has nice production values, but that doesn't make up for gazing into the heart of darkness. Its not really funny enough to be a Black Comedy. Its just Torture Porn.
You must be a fucking sheltered fairy to call it Torture porn.
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On May 18 2013 05:43 Nevermind86 wrote: I've known a few dudes like the short fat guy that got his neck snapped, those annoying people always trying to be everybody's friends and always insecure and bragging about material things they have like if for those things one would be their friends, I've always wanted to snap their necks too, it felt pretty good seeing Hannibal do it.
What I dislike about this series though is, how many serial killers can be at Baltimore at the same time? Oh come on, it would have been so much better if they at least said the dudes were in a different city, oh well Hollywood.
doesn't baltimore have the 2nd highest murder rate in the US?
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I don't even get how its considered torture porn? We actually don't see any torture... We just see the results of the killings; but not really the killing.
I've really been enjoying Mads portrayal of Hannibal. Also supposedly he does all the cutting cutscenes for the food prep. Pretty legit stuff.
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Damn he has much time on his hands to be able to cook all that food, not to mention he is getting the ingredients in a very difficult way. I hate making sausage, cause it means more stuff to wash, while Hannibals kitchen is incredible clean at all times, while I see him having a spoon of some sort of sausage too just top his desert with. Wish making food was as gloriously easy. Im sitting watching WCS, and I ponder wheter I should spend 5 minutes making a simple burger ..
Still pretty decent show
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Preparation my friend. All there is to it. And finesse combined with technique. Bon apetit.
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By the looks of things I'll have to give Hannibal a try. Sometimes I like gory stuff.
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Episode after episode, this show hits the highest highs and the lowest lows. Hannibal's relationship with pretty much every relevant character is absolutely amazing ('cept for the cancer stuff, out of nowhere (as much a s I like Gina Torres)), but my god can it become ridiculous. The "mind if I kill you ?" "Pray go ahead" stuff with Tobias was specially annoying, the serial killers, and this fucking supporting cast. Could have been an amazing show. Just decent ):
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Gina Torres is an average actor. Nothing on the supporting/starring cast. Tobias and Hannibal were talking to each other like psychopaths feeling each other out. Because psychopathy is a mental disorder and they are both lunatics who deal with being human, they still want friendship.
I could agree that the editing/effects can be overplayed, but since I think suppressed pain will definitely manifest itself physically, I find the psychological aspects of the show fascinating. I like how it doesn't waste any time in procedural aspects, but the show could do with a little more exposition. It's very cerebral and enjoyable for what it is, but it might find more than just a niche market if it did more tell and less show. Personally, I hope it does well the way it is now, and I'm hesitant to criticize it.
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After episode 5, I can see myself disappointed. They reduced it to a typical serial killer/hero per episode action format. Something like Dexter or Criminal Minds. I'm not saying the latter is bad (both are good). What I'm trying to say is, the Hannibal Series cannot move this way. We need more clever forensic evidence, longer serial killer periods I have read all the Hannibal books by Thomas Harris so maybe I have high expectations.
TLDR: (why i dont like it) 1. New Serial Killers in every episode. caught or killed, and then there's a new one. 2. Nonsense and boring side-scenes (like Jack Crawford's wife having cancer or Will Graham's personal struggles) 3. Most actors chosen for each of the characters are very wrong based on the books.
It feels like the one who made these series just read 'Red Dragon' and not the other books.
I wanted them to focus on Hannibal POV, not Will Grahams POV. This story will be hard to expand as well.
I want to see early episodes with Margot and Mason Verger. Some rude or incompetent people that Dr. Lecter meets. I want this show to focus on Hannibal.
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God I wish I didnt watch the preview for the next episode :E
SPOILER ALERT in a mega way wtf
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I don't like the + Show Spoiler + in episode 9, but I'm loving the Abigail Hobbs storyline. I can't believe how subtly but very powerfully Hannibal is manipulating Will, it's awesome (not for Will of course).
Watching Mikkelsen playing Hannibal out of the cage is something else. He is caring and sympathetic and really helps people, but only as long as doing so is unconnected to his agenda or is a part of it. And you can tell he is having so much fun, getting so much pleasure, doing it and being the only one who knows what is truly going on. His mask is almost perfect.
Good writing and great acting = great television. It's hard to get both in one show consistently. Hannibal doesn't have the best writing but it's pretty good and the actors don't drop the ball.
EDIT: OMG THAT PREVIEW
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what was spoiled in the ep preview? I don't get it.
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On May 25 2013 05:24 czylu wrote: what was spoiled in the ep preview? I don't get it. You've got to be kidding me.. don't ask for spoilers for dog's sake! If someone wants to answer this guy then please do so in a pm.
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The past 2 episodes have been absolutely amazing, but wtf is going on with that absolutely MASSIVE spoiler in the preview for next week's episode?
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On May 25 2013 05:11 DeepElemBlues wrote:I don't like the + Show Spoiler + in episode 9, but I'm loving the Abigail Hobbs storyline. I can't believe how subtly but very powerfully Hannibal is manipulating Will, it's awesome (not for Will of course). Watching Mikkelsen playing Hannibal out of the cage is something else. He is caring and sympathetic and really helps people, but only as long as doing so is unconnected to his agenda or is a part of it. And you can tell he is having so much fun, getting so much pleasure, doing it and being the only one who knows what is truly going on. His mask is almost perfect. Good writing and great acting = great television. It's hard to get both in one show consistently. Hannibal doesn't have the best writing but it's pretty good and the actors don't drop the ball. EDIT: OMG THAT PREVIEW
Actually the writing is good, but the director seems to have this idea that making something overly slow will make it look smarter. Horrible pacing of good dialogue.
And point goes to the old dude for being the most anecdotical serial killer of all the episodes so far. Please just drop this already and focus the show on the interesting characters.
Hannibal is getting better and better. Seeing the plot center more and more around him feels good, since he's the only really multifaceted character of the show.
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I'm rather enjoying Hannibal. It's teetering between being really good or quite bad. It can go either way. I really dislike Will. Not the actor, just the character. I thought he was going to be interesting because he was supposed to be 'to the autistic side of the spectrum' and that sort of character is rare on tv. Having a brain with poor social skills who grows to admire the killer he's trying to capture is an interesting line. Instead he is some super empathetic dude who is quite emotional. He's not someone I can relate.
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On May 25 2013 05:30 helvete wrote:Show nested quote +On May 25 2013 05:24 czylu wrote: what was spoiled in the ep preview? I don't get it. You've got to be kidding me.. don't ask for spoilers for dog's sake! If someone wants to answer this guy then please do so in a pm.
i only ask b/c i dont think anything was spoiled.
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