i had nothing to watch and my asshole friend was marathoning gots and breaking bads so i got jelly and had a look at top torrents and something called Black Sails came up
its a pirate tv series like .... well like game of thrones but with pirates and a couple dodgy choice of voice acting (why they pick people with like southern prick accents to be pirates?)
anyway its pretty cool and its fucking PIRATES series. just what i wanted.
its on season 2 now so i guess you better not say any spoilers coz im only on ep 3 of season 1 . or whatever, ill just not come back . wanted to share this tho coz fucking pirates
pls rename thread to "black sails" not "black sailrs" -.-
edit: maybe i cud be wrong about the voice acting, some of the characters could be children of nobles which might explain why they are posh
I watched the 1st season back when it was fresh and the most disappointing thing about it was only 8 episodes. Also barely anything happening on ships at sea, even though it's frickin' pirates! Plus I had no idea wtf was Vane's plot near the end of the season.
With that in mind I really like the show, I forgot it was cominng back in february! Another show to add back to my list!
vain's first man is like the game of thrones dwarf funny and witty,
his girlfriend was a shadow cloak killer but has become weak and fucked up as time went on, i feel like we caught the tail end of her cool period but the thing about these characters is you know they have a history which brought them where they are today.
the issue with this is when the show is unable to deliver this or forgets about it , for instance vain's crew were only portrayed as massive cocksuckers and we never were shown their solidarity or loyalty to one another.... we saw them challenge their captain a lot (iirc) but they were "needed" because apparently they are the only men available to form a crew for him. but then they are all killed and vain suddenly disowns his 1st mate (and i thought he was gonna kill him) saying he betrayed loyalty. but they were portrayed as unloyal pricks and also didnt he just fuck off to get a new crew? so yeah some disassociations going on there for me
vain is a boss
captain flint (main captain) is basically the guy from breaking bad. except you sort of come to realise he's always been crazy - its only recently that he's been pushed this far. having said that, dumping willy overboard seemed a bit too much. although willy was showing continual signs of distrust/unrest, it was still being mixed with signs that he was understanding of the necessity of the captain's methods so it wasn't too believable to me that the captain would suddenly lash out so suddenly when it didnt seem necessary. and also because willy was like THE top top guy on the ship , it should have been the BIGGEST deal when he died but it wasnt shown with enough impact. like i said, the show presents itself with a huge degree of "history" between the characters (they are pirate crew for years together) but often this is forgotten or not shown so when you get a top character offed like that it really needs to be portrayed in a non trivial fashion. you could argue that the crew are dying off all the time so no1 really cares but that doesnt make sense from any prospective.
posh blonde's acting/portrayal thankfully got better. i can't help but wonder if she could have been given a stronger line (more similar to captain flint) because she's described as "super strong" by vain but really she isn't that fiery and often just comes across as a nonce.
having said that, i loved how vain was portrayed with a soft side in the later episodes and it showed that he isn't so hardcore and can still be a retard about some things, which makes him liking posh bitch more believable, which in turn makes posh bitche's "soft line" personality more acceptable (vain "thinks" she is super cool but she is really a retard and so is he with regards to her)
i think the "scale" of the show could have been portrayed a bit better, although there are a ton of solid characters you get the impression that the pirate town is like 2 buildings and 30 people doing not a lot there. at least half the pirates were actually posh snobs instead of raving drunkard pillagers so they lost a lot of atmosphere there. you got blonde posh bitch ruling over a bunch of emo pirates - instead it could have been hardliner young bitch ruling over a ruthless mob whilst maintaining order amongst the captains. instead really everyone is a bit of an emo or snob lol.
the "realism" of the show could have been improved just by being a bit more subtle with props and effects imo. they had all the assets onscreen but turning them into a believable atmosphere involves making them appear like everyday mundane assets and not "feature assets". just a shitty example: water splashing into the ship with sound effects just as someone comes down the steps. fix: less water, less "in your face", produces a much more believable and atmospheric effect
well i guess the only thing i care about is why vain is so pissed off at his best friend 1st mate for killing his shitty crew who kept threatening him and were shit anyway. maybe it was because he stole the pearls or something? but i thought the pearls story was a set-up fabricated just to get the men alone so they could be killed? i guess if the 1st mate really was sneakily stealing from his comrades then it would give a very bad impression of him. did his girlfriend plant the pearls to frame him and force him to go along with her plan? that would explain why vain said "you betrayed your crew for a woman". but the woman is like top3 in the crew anyway i thought, although her "aloof" shadowed portrayal might account for her not being considered part of the man-crew and more of a passenger.
@StealthBlue i thought the ep8 killing was absolutely appropriate. by contrast i felt the william killing was a rather inappropriate and poorly portrayed. it would have had far greater impact if he was actually shown to be killed because you would understand
a) how captain flint flipped out in order for him to suddenly kill him when things werent going so badly at the time and "the letter" wasn't too incriminating because in my opinion it would be an easy thing for captain flint to deny ("my girlfriend is a fucking idiot dont listen to her, ill go talk to her and sort this out nm") instead of "fuck you william you are the most liked and long-lasting member of the crew and one of my most loyal servants ill just kill you when ive already recently managed to reason with you quite effectively"
b) if he had actually fell for real and not been killed then you would have to come to terms more with flint's dilemma of lying about some things but not lying about others
c) by showing nothing (no emotional justification, no death scene, practically zero aftermath) you get the impact of neither of these things whatsoever, and to make it even worse flint literally randomly admits to killing him a bit later so you dont even have the impact of wondering about this either way from then on (tho i still wonder if hes gonna show up on the island somewhere lol. but then whats the point of that? the captain already has 2 main surviving characters now knowing his secrets and hating him for it, what would be the point of bringing william back just to add to this - it would be tiresome)
it looks like there are 5 eps in s2 so far. SET COURSE FOR S2
On February 27 2015 19:56 TigerKarl wrote: I've come to like this show quite a bit, but i hope that they'd cut the lesbian brown gurrl. Makes me cringe hard, not actually hard.
It is made by same people as Spartacus. You can say they got too little of those things considering Spartacus :D
On March 23 2015 09:55 Just_a_Moth wrote: Next week is finale?
IMDB seems to think so, and actually even the current episode could had been a final. I don't see how the direction for the next season can change. Actually I think this was a show defining moment and it probably set the direction for many seasons :D
On March 30 2015 00:16 Gullis wrote: This series is fucking awesome:D the season finale was badass. Atm I rate this higher than both vikings and TWD
Well seeing as I haven't really enjoyed TWD like at all this season I agree with that. Vikings is pretty fucking awesome though. I'd say Black Sails and Vikings are about on par with each other, impossible to say which I like better really.
On March 30 2015 00:29 Just_a_Moth wrote: Don't know if I would rate it higher than Vikings but at least on par with it. And yeah the season finale was really good.
better writing (less predictable) and acting than vikings imho
also the intro is incredible, one of my all time favourites for sure
yeah, that intro, I still look those ivory sculptures with child's eyes, gives me shivers, that music too, very good.
I love Vikings, but I feel a bit that they are constantly slow playing stuff, even though a lot happens and months path between episodes sometimes. I think black sails gets a extremely well though plot, very consistent and at the same time, even the bigger stretch seems totally ok .
In vikings, I get sometimes disturbed by the "stupidity" of some character changing a win/win situation to a lose/lose...