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On February 21 2018 00:59 andrewlt wrote: I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist.
Meaning everyone will be fired? I don't get it.
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On February 21 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2018 00:59 andrewlt wrote: I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist. Meaning everyone will be fired? I don't get it. Probably a reference to how the entire writing staff got replaced after the Zamasu debacle
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On February 21 2018 02:16 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:On February 21 2018 00:59 andrewlt wrote: I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist. Meaning everyone will be fired? I don't get it. Probably a reference to how the entire writing staff got replaced after the Zamasu debacle
Gotcha, thought so. I think everyone is panicking, worried the ending will be complete garbage.
The Frieza foreshadowing makes me think he is somehow involved. They basically jobbed the shit out of him by having golden angry frieza get 1 shotted. So it's not like he's strong at all. I can't imagine he's got a transformation in his pocket.
So we know Frieza has some bullshit going on.
My hope at this point is that Goku attains straight up UI, is crowned the strongest in the multiverse, goes off to train with the grand priest to one day be an angel, other universes are ressurected. Next Dragonball series is based on U6/U7 basically doing GT right. GT was a really good idea. I want it done better.
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Canada8747 Posts
On February 21 2018 02:16 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:On February 21 2018 00:59 andrewlt wrote: I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist. Meaning everyone will be fired? I don't get it. Probably a reference to how the entire writing staff got replaced after the Zamasu debacle
That's to bad, I actually like a good part of the arc. If they had just end it with the evil containement wave it would have been a solid arc.
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On February 21 2018 02:25 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2018 02:16 Elentos wrote:On February 21 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:On February 21 2018 00:59 andrewlt wrote: I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist. Meaning everyone will be fired? I don't get it. Probably a reference to how the entire writing staff got replaced after the Zamasu debacle Gotcha, thought so. I think everyone is panicking, worried the ending will be complete garbage. The Frieza foreshadowing makes me think he is somehow involved. They basically jobbed the shit out of him by having golden angry frieza get 1 shotted. So it's not like he's strong at all. I can't imagine he's got a transformation in his pocket. So we know Frieza has some bullshit going on. My hope at this point is that Goku attains straight up UI, is crowned the strongest in the multiverse, goes off to train with the grand priest to one day be an angel, other universes are ressurected. Next Dragonball series is based on U6/U7 basically doing GT right. GT was a really good idea. I want it done better.
You can't just become an angel, right? Not like you can be elected to become a God of Destruction? Aren't the angels all siblings that were created outside of the universes, which is why they don't disappear when universes are deleted?
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On February 21 2018 02:46 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2018 02:25 Mohdoo wrote:On February 21 2018 02:16 Elentos wrote:On February 21 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:On February 21 2018 00:59 andrewlt wrote: I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist. Meaning everyone will be fired? I don't get it. Probably a reference to how the entire writing staff got replaced after the Zamasu debacle Gotcha, thought so. I think everyone is panicking, worried the ending will be complete garbage. The Frieza foreshadowing makes me think he is somehow involved. They basically jobbed the shit out of him by having golden angry frieza get 1 shotted. So it's not like he's strong at all. I can't imagine he's got a transformation in his pocket. So we know Frieza has some bullshit going on. My hope at this point is that Goku attains straight up UI, is crowned the strongest in the multiverse, goes off to train with the grand priest to one day be an angel, other universes are ressurected. Next Dragonball series is based on U6/U7 basically doing GT right. GT was a really good idea. I want it done better. You can't just become an angel, right? Not like you can be elected to become a God of Destruction? Aren't the angels all siblings that were created outside of the universes, which is why they don't disappear when universes are deleted?
Yeah, from what we know, the grandpriest is all of their father. As to what the fuck that actually means for being that transcend universal existence...fuck if I know.
Or something. I dunno. But point being, I actually do see some value in Goku going on to be some transcendent badass.
One scenario I enjoy is one where a new universe is formed from the erased universes and Goku is REQUIRED to be the GoD in order to justify their resurrection. I dunno.
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United Kingdom13774 Posts
On February 21 2018 02:41 Nakajin wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2018 02:16 Elentos wrote:On February 21 2018 02:10 Mohdoo wrote:On February 21 2018 00:59 andrewlt wrote: I think Japan's unemployment rate will tick up again after the last episode's plot twist. Meaning everyone will be fired? I don't get it. Probably a reference to how the entire writing staff got replaced after the Zamasu debacle That's to bad, I actually like a good part of the arc. If they had just end it with the evil containement wave it would have been a solid arc. It was good up until the scythe part, at which point it went rapidly to utter shit.
The haphazard cancellation gives little confidence in a well-considered ending being in the works.
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Yeah I loved the black arc until the scythe episode. Then the rest of that arc was pretty awful.
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Agreed with above thoughts. Really, really awesome arc UNTIL it was extremely terrible. It is a shame that it ended so poorly that it is hard to even remember it was a good arc before that.
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Mexico2165 Posts
I have a theory on why super is ending and what will come after it.
I think as much as I dont like End of Z they want to get there and retcon as little as possible. In EoZ we know a couple of things: Goku hasnt seen the rest for a while (they said 5 years i think but that has been retconned), theres been peace since Majin buu.
The second part is exactly why nothing really of note has been happened in super. We got Berus but he was on earth like half a day, and Freezer that even thought he brought his army, and did kill piccolo and gohan, the only reason he did anything was because goku and vegeta weren't on earth, and again he was kiled honestly very easy. I see RoF more as training than anything else. Appart from that we got the tournament with U6, which didnt affect the earth, the future trunks arc, which again didnt affect our earth, and now the Tournament of power, which altough could erase the universe is not like a war or a direct threat its more...indirect.
However they are limited in the sense that a big baddie can't come to earth and terrorize it for days and kill half the population like Buu did. So I think that's why they are ending super, to go past EoZ, and while they figure out what to do next.
My personal theory is that goku will "master UI" this arc in the sense that he will be able to use the "offense" part of UI, but won't really be able to go UI at will or use it to it's full potential. So he will go to train with Whis, that's why he hasn't seen bulma for a while. Then EoZ happens, and since goku is so OP now, leaving to train Uub is a great opportunity to explore other characters, with occassional appareances of Goku training him and stuff. Vegeta Gohan and adult trunks (which is very cool) go on adventurs and do stuff, then Uub becomes GoD and Goku becomes the strongest from the multiverse and Vegetta gets jobbed again. The end.
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On February 20 2018 09:36 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2018 06:52 TMG26 wrote: This whole reacts faster is silly. Even in very early dragonball power was everything. The Teenage Goku fighting Tien was o fast that tien could even see him. It doesn't matter how good your reactions are if you can't even compete in speed and power with your oponent. Reactions are a test of speed though. Power is just how much each hit counts for. Power means nothing if you can't hit your opponent, aka Vegeta/Trunks vs Cell. UI basically gives the user access to a reaction speed that's faster than you can even contemplate. Hasn't really been explained how he's hurting Jiren though, does UI unlock a hidden energy source in you as well that's powering the attacks? It must be to inflict damage on Jiren, I'm assuming we'll see more of a explanation during this last fight as he's probably going to master UI.
No. Reaction only reduces latency. In the end your arm won't move faster, it will only move sooner. And at the differemce of speed and power that we have seen through all of Z and previous arcs, it doesn't really seem like reaction times are enough.
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I also think the break is due to Z ending as well. Btw: isn't the buu part of kai still being localized in the USA?
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United Kingdom13774 Posts
It should have been finished by about now. I did, after all, link a clip just a few pages ago that was from pretty much the very end of Z, from the dubbed Kai version.
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Why does the end of Z mean a break in Super?
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To avoid franchise stauration? There is going to be a tineskip anyway, night as well do a haitus to prepare a propper series instead of just winging it, and drag it. Even tough dragging is what Toei is good(bad) at. A few months ago I decided to watch the one piece episode of the week, the drag was even worse than I remembered.
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On February 20 2018 23:16 Cricketer12 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 20 2018 22:09 Mun_Su wrote: Twist: Draw between the two universe, and they got the right to res all universe ONLY if they can beat the 4 others stronger universe so we got a team with goku Vegeta Jiren Hit and co and 150 more DBS episodes That would be the coolest ending ever
And you read it here first
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It makes more sense for sure. Also it seems like Jiren isn't spending half the tournament just walking around idly.
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Manga spoiler: + Show Spoiler +
So the dude who has the suit that makes him faster or stronger or whatever got taken out at the same time as some other fighter. Hopefully this means Ribrianne will be given similar treatment. If they have her transform multiple times in the manga, I am going to be really sad.
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United Kingdom13774 Posts
+ Show Spoiler +The manga fight is progressing remarkably quickly. The yard rat and reflecting dude were actual threats rather than small fry in the anime. And of course the black guy gets booted first, lol.
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