They added too much political shit, went overboard with the lesbian drama, dragged out the last couple of episodes way to much, and the ruined a potentially awesome ending + Show Spoiler +
Nurse tells LC that she knows a good attorney
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DanceSC
United States751 Posts
They added too much political shit, went overboard with the lesbian drama, dragged out the last couple of episodes way to much, and the ruined a potentially awesome ending + Show Spoiler + Nurse tells LC that she knows a good attorney | ||
Manit0u
Poland17041 Posts
I loved Daredevil, did not care for Jessica Jones :/ I'll finish the series. It's OK but not spectacular in any way. I'm just hoping they won't ruin The Punisher (DeKnight is pushing Marvel to make it hard-R rating). | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Really, JJ needs DD's fight choreography next season. And DD needs JJ's writing talent. | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 24 2015 23:31 Plansix wrote: I liked DD for the action and characters, but the writing was terrible. Like slightly above middle school notebook bad. "I need to be the man the city needs" and "We are alot alike, you and I" are two of the lines that comic book movies and TV need to stop using. And the lines about "the man I love becoming blah blah blah Grimdark" JJ has much better writing and deals with more difficult concepts like rape and trauma. Really, JJ needs DD's fight choreography next season. And DD needs JJ's writing talent. Not just choreography, DD have awesome camera shots like when he is slowly getting up from the ground with blood spilling from his mouth and strong rain falling all around. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Both series have their merits, IMO. Liked them both, expect for the very end of DD. And useless flipping. | ||
Velr
Switzerland10414 Posts
On November 24 2015 23:50 Plansix wrote: That was the first thing I heard about JJ vs DD, that the cinematography was better in DD by quite a bit. But that writting and some of the acting was pretty blah. And that last action scene on the sound stage trying so hard to look like a street at night....... Both series have their merits, IMO. Liked them both, expect for the very end of DD. And useless flipping. Rofl, yeah the uselss flipping :D. But the cinematography in DD is not "a bit" better, its leagues above, but thats not because JJ is bad or anything, DD was imho just really spectacular in that area. JJ has the better underlying theme, i agree, but it somehow just fails in using it because characters/stuff tends to just allways act in a way that is extremly convenient to keep the story going. + Show Spoiler + Support Group suddenly goes mental just for the shits of it, what? They went from Jessica is awesome to lets kick her ass (so purpleman can get away)? Electric cable breaks exactly when it shouldn't (so purple man can get away)? Private secret Service, with absolutely no moral compass, which is at least a bit unlikely when you think about the shit purpleman does all the time, is immediatly there once they kidnap him and they win against Jessica because, else we could skip ~2-3 episodes to end up at the same place we end up anyway (so purpleman can get away)? Simpson doesn’t shoot Purpleman and instead decides to blow up the whole house (so purpleman can get away)? The show just runs away from its own conclusion a bit too much. It kinda feels as if there are 2-3 Episodes too much. Don’t get me wrong, its still a nice show and leagues above Arrow/Flash Btw : What about the 2 Kids he sent into the closet? | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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KwarK
United States40772 Posts
On November 25 2015 01:11 Velr wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2015 23:50 Plansix wrote: That was the first thing I heard about JJ vs DD, that the cinematography was better in DD by quite a bit. But that writting and some of the acting was pretty blah. And that last action scene on the sound stage trying so hard to look like a street at night....... Both series have their merits, IMO. Liked them both, expect for the very end of DD. And useless flipping. Rofl, yeah the uselss flipping :D. But the cinematography in DD is not "a bit" better, its leagues above, but thats not because JJ is bad or anything, DD was imho just really spectacular in that area. JJ has the better underlying theme, i agree, but it somehow just fails in using it because characters/stuff tends to just allways act in a way that is extremly convenient to keep the story going. + Show Spoiler + Support Group suddenly goes mental just for the shits of it, what? They went from Jessica is awesome to lets kick her ass (so purpleman can get away)? Electric cable breaks exactly when it shouldn't (so purple man can get away)? Private secret Service, with absolutely no moral compass, which is at least a bit unlikely when you think about the shit purpleman does all the time, is immediatly there once they kidnap him and they win against Jessica because, else we could skip ~2-3 episodes to end up at the same place we end up anyway (so purpleman can get away)? Simpson doesn’t shoot Purpleman and instead decides to blow up the whole house (so purpleman can get away)? The show just runs away from its own conclusion a bit too much. It kinda feels as if there are 2-3 Episodes too much. Don’t get me wrong, its still a nice show and leagues above Arrow/Flash Btw : What about the 2 Kids he sent into the closet? Cable didn't break, Trinity cut it. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 25 2015 02:00 KwarK wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2015 01:11 Velr wrote: On November 24 2015 23:50 Plansix wrote: That was the first thing I heard about JJ vs DD, that the cinematography was better in DD by quite a bit. But that writting and some of the acting was pretty blah. And that last action scene on the sound stage trying so hard to look like a street at night....... Both series have their merits, IMO. Liked them both, expect for the very end of DD. And useless flipping. Rofl, yeah the uselss flipping :D. But the cinematography in DD is not "a bit" better, its leagues above, but thats not because JJ is bad or anything, DD was imho just really spectacular in that area. JJ has the better underlying theme, i agree, but it somehow just fails in using it because characters/stuff tends to just allways act in a way that is extremly convenient to keep the story going. + Show Spoiler + Support Group suddenly goes mental just for the shits of it, what? They went from Jessica is awesome to lets kick her ass (so purpleman can get away)? Electric cable breaks exactly when it shouldn't (so purple man can get away)? Private secret Service, with absolutely no moral compass, which is at least a bit unlikely when you think about the shit purpleman does all the time, is immediatly there once they kidnap him and they win against Jessica because, else we could skip ~2-3 episodes to end up at the same place we end up anyway (so purpleman can get away)? Simpson doesn’t shoot Purpleman and instead decides to blow up the whole house (so purpleman can get away)? The show just runs away from its own conclusion a bit too much. It kinda feels as if there are 2-3 Episodes too much. Don’t get me wrong, its still a nice show and leagues above Arrow/Flash Btw : What about the 2 Kids he sent into the closet? Cable didn't break, Trinity cut it. Also Simpson tried to make the explosion look like a gas leak, not straight up murder. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17041 Posts
When it comes to recent comic book > TV series adaptations it definitely goes like that for me: DD > Gotham > JJ Not sure where to place Arrow. It got me really hooked for the first season but then it kind of fell off the radar for me. Flash never hooked me in the first place. Was there anything else? | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Simpson deciding to blow up all the evidence and kill the old cop because plot convenience and Khorne demanded it and + Show Spoiler + the whole vaccine thing being completely pointless (though admittedly having the father playing the long con would have been a bit easy for the audience to guess) I suspect both of these are actually results of script rewrites but I guess we'll never know. Oh, and + Show Spoiler + Trish deciding to shoot Kilgrave...through the hermetically sealed chamber...for some reason, even though the only way that could possibly end well is with an instant kill shot that might not even save the people in the room. | ||
Manit0u
Poland17041 Posts
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On November 25 2015 03:03 Manit0u wrote: Also most of the characters aren't likeable at all... I'd also like to see more detecting on JJ's part instead of throwing tantrums most of the time. When it comes to recent comic book > TV series adaptations it definitely goes like that for me: DD > Gotham > JJ Not sure where to place Arrow. It got me really hooked for the first season but then it kind of fell off the radar for me. Flash never hooked me in the first place. Was there anything else? Arrow doesn't make any fucking sense and has no sense of pacing. They just kinda do whatever they want when they want. It's a decent binge, but it's horrible to watch week to week. I was never a fan of Gotham at all, I only watched a couple of episodes, but it just seemed to me like a bunch of boring shit waiting for name drops of Batman villains. The thing that Jessica Jones did really well IMO was accurately portraying somebody with PTSD and how it fucks with all parts of your life and can ruin relationships and your ability to relate to people. Some people want their heroes to be either super heroic or super badass/shades/don'tlookatexplosions type, and she doesn't fit neatly in either. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Its cool that super hero shows don't have to be about fighting all the time and the hero can just be someone who is a little stronger than everyone else. Plus the fact the she is a women that lives a shitty section of New York with her door unlocked and broken sets up everything about the character. | ||
ImDrizzt
Norway427 Posts
On November 24 2015 01:35 BurningSera wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2015 00:59 AngryMag wrote: Watched the first 4 Episodes and decided to quit. In my opinion the writing is very subpar. The plot often needs to get pushed by the main character making stupid decisions with better writing many of these situations could have been avoided. Next point is the lack of focus. Has a bit of dark tune to it but the adolescent romance scenes destroy that. Imo it would have been better to go for the dark, cynical theme or shoot towards an adolescent audience completely . Now we have a bit of both with both being subpar. As others already pointed out, the fighting scenes are just not good, Ritter is not up for the job physically (the scenes aren't shot well either but that is another thing) and this is just not acceptable. You can fail in the execution but failing in the basic requirement is just a big no no. Credit can be given for the relatively innovative darker theme and bringing up diffcult topics but imo the nagatives of lack of focus, bad writing and bad action scenes outweigh that. Not my cup of tea. I quit too after episode 6, such a shame i thought the first 3 episodes look really promising. Episode 6 really made me laugh + Show Spoiler + when they let kilgrave go just like that, you would imagine someone like kilgrave would have caused massive havoc in modern society by now, but nope, he just wants a pic of some girl every day and shouting everyone to quiet in some cafe..... lack of focus etc, bad fighting scene really made me wonder why is she even a super hero and why should i bother continue watching. Nah, doesn't get better, after ive seen em all, i have it like a 6, too much shit toward the end. Has it moments, but it's not a great one. My take on it | ||
The_Red_Viper
19533 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + The whole Luke trying to find the murderer of his wife with the end of her telling him, it was just bad. The execution was poor and i felt for the first time like this was some network show. Let's see if it gets better again. | ||
ETisME
12071 Posts
Jessica Jones on the other hand, the villain was super solid and the actress acted out her character so very well | ||
-Archangel-
Croatia7457 Posts
On November 25 2015 04:12 TheTenthDoc wrote: The two things that ended up bothering me plot wise were + Show Spoiler + Simpson deciding to blow up all the evidence and kill the old cop because plot convenience and Khorne demanded it and + Show Spoiler + the whole vaccine thing being completely pointless (though admittedly having the father playing the long con would have been a bit easy for the audience to guess) I suspect both of these are actually results of script rewrites but I guess we'll never know. Oh, and + Show Spoiler + Trish deciding to shoot Kilgrave...through the hermetically sealed chamber...for some reason, even though the only way that could possibly end well is with an instant kill shot that might not even save the people in the room. + Show Spoiler + - Simpson was on some nasty drugs. - vaccine allowed Kilgrave to do nasty mass control he did and give a challenge to JJ without being able to control her directly - she was using emotions to act, which is how most humans react in crisis. Only trained and experienced people can keep cool heads in such situations | ||
TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
On December 01 2015 01:20 -Archangel- wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2015 04:12 TheTenthDoc wrote: The two things that ended up bothering me plot wise were + Show Spoiler + Simpson deciding to blow up all the evidence and kill the old cop because plot convenience and Khorne demanded it and + Show Spoiler + the whole vaccine thing being completely pointless (though admittedly having the father playing the long con would have been a bit easy for the audience to guess) I suspect both of these are actually results of script rewrites but I guess we'll never know. Oh, and + Show Spoiler + Trish deciding to shoot Kilgrave...through the hermetically sealed chamber...for some reason, even though the only way that could possibly end well is with an instant kill shot that might not even save the people in the room. + Show Spoiler + - Simpson was on some nasty drugs. - vaccine allowed Kilgrave to do nasty mass control he did and give a challenge to JJ without being able to control her directly - she was using emotions to act, which is how most humans react in crisis. Only trained and experienced people can keep cool heads in such situations + Show Spoiler + "Nasty drugs" = "plot convenience." Tomato, tomato. 0 precedence for the drugs making him do that before the scene, 0 evidence after the scene that it would make him do that. The only people he kills because of the drugs afterwards are a direct threat to him, not a fellow cop who was handcuffed to a wall and broke his own wrist. Maybe it's some other MCU canon, I dunno. The vaccine didn't allow that, his parents causing his powers did. The vaccine could have never been mentioned and the show would have played out exactly the same. It was completely irrelevant. I don't think any combination of emotions would make me shoot a guy through a chamber I know is airtight, removing the airtightness and giving him complete control over the entire room, when you could just wait and shoot him after he tries to leave the bloody place, but maybe that's just me. That crosses the line from emotions to plot-induced stupidity. That she doesn't blame herself for it afterwards like she blamed herself for the tazing boggles the mind as well. Still, it's a comic book show, so it's okay for it to have a few moments that leave me scratching my head and pointless plot threads. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On November 30 2015 01:24 ETisME wrote: I like it way more than dare devil, possibly because dare devil life is basically the usual day job as something, night job as "hero" thing. Jessica Jones on the other hand, the villain was super solid and the actress acted out her character so very well As someone who works in the legal field, DD had the most passive, non-work intensive law firm ever created. Its sole purpose seemed to be “This next case will be our spring off to the next plot point”. Which is also how it is used in JJ, tbh. But TV law is always at the level of TV computer hacking. | ||
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