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On April 27 2014 22:46 Vesimias wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 18:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On April 26 2014 12:36 ShadeR wrote: Jaime is not going to go from being committed to 'saving' Sansa and delivering her to her mother, to killing her because Cersei thinks that she's responsible for Joffery's death. + Show Spoiler +Remember Jaime 4 seasons ago? Lol. Not saying hes the same or different. Just interesting to see how our opinions of him may have changed since then. I wanna believe that Jaime is a better person now though. I also hope Jaime is a better person. I hope he won't agree to go and try to kill Sansa, but both him refusing and agreeing are plausible. I mean he is clearly fed up with his father and maybe even Cersei, but he also loves her. I guess he will be very conflicted and make the decision. I just hope it's not the ''Yeah I'll go by what my crazy lover/twin sister tells me and kill this innocent naive, broken little girl', decision.
are you just blind or did you miss the scene where he raped his sister infront of the dead body of his son? i'm pretty sure that discounts any "hope" of him getting better anytime soon. if anything jamie is a straight up psychopath and that scene proved it. if you think he's getting better after pushing kids out of windows and raping spouses on their own kid's funeral you need a head check more than this fictional character.
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On April 28 2014 00:44 saocyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 22:46 Vesimias wrote:On April 27 2014 18:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On April 26 2014 12:36 ShadeR wrote: Jaime is not going to go from being committed to 'saving' Sansa and delivering her to her mother, to killing her because Cersei thinks that she's responsible for Joffery's death. + Show Spoiler +Remember Jaime 4 seasons ago? Lol. Not saying hes the same or different. Just interesting to see how our opinions of him may have changed since then. I wanna believe that Jaime is a better person now though. I also hope Jaime is a better person. I hope he won't agree to go and try to kill Sansa, but both him refusing and agreeing are plausible. I mean he is clearly fed up with his father and maybe even Cersei, but he also loves her. I guess he will be very conflicted and make the decision. I just hope it's not the ''Yeah I'll go by what my crazy lover/twin sister tells me and kill this innocent naive, broken little girl', decision. are you just blind or did you miss the scene where he raped his sister infront of the dead body of his son? i'm pretty sure that discounts any "hope" of him getting better anytime soon. if anything jamie is a straight up psychopath and that scene proved it. if you think he's getting better after pushing kids out of windows and raping spouses on their own kid's funeral you need a head check more than this fictional character.
Wow that got quite aggressive pretty quickly. I'm going by the directors and thinking that it wasn't meant to be rape (even though I have to admit, it did seem like that to me).
So no, I don't think he's a psychopath, that's way too harsh, I would say he's really confused. His dad disowns him, Cersei seems to reject him, he's not the fighter he used to be. He's changing for sure, but is it in a good or a bad way? I don't know. And we have to remember that Jaime saved King's Landing from the Mad King. So he's not evil or crazy.
And whether you agree with me or not, you don't need to insult me while doing that. I can assure you I am not a psychopath.
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On April 28 2014 00:44 saocyn wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2014 22:46 Vesimias wrote:On April 27 2014 18:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On April 26 2014 12:36 ShadeR wrote: Jaime is not going to go from being committed to 'saving' Sansa and delivering her to her mother, to killing her because Cersei thinks that she's responsible for Joffery's death. + Show Spoiler +Remember Jaime 4 seasons ago? Lol. Not saying hes the same or different. Just interesting to see how our opinions of him may have changed since then. I wanna believe that Jaime is a better person now though. I also hope Jaime is a better person. I hope he won't agree to go and try to kill Sansa, but both him refusing and agreeing are plausible. I mean he is clearly fed up with his father and maybe even Cersei, but he also loves her. I guess he will be very conflicted and make the decision. I just hope it's not the ''Yeah I'll go by what my crazy lover/twin sister tells me and kill this innocent naive, broken little girl', decision. are you just blind or did you miss the scene where he raped his sister infront of the dead body of his son? i'm pretty sure that discounts any "hope" of him getting better anytime soon. if anything jamie is a straight up psychopath and that scene proved it. if you think he's getting better after pushing kids out of windows and raping spouses on their own kid's funeral you need a head check more than this fictional character.
If you are forced to use personal attack to get a point across, your point is automatically invalid. Learn to discuss in a normal manner please.
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On April 28 2014 04:42 urboss wrote: Season 4 ends in:
Get that shit out of here! You trying to make us depressed?
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On April 28 2014 00:59 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 00:44 saocyn wrote:On April 27 2014 22:46 Vesimias wrote:On April 27 2014 18:23 Emnjay808 wrote:On April 26 2014 12:36 ShadeR wrote: Jaime is not going to go from being committed to 'saving' Sansa and delivering her to her mother, to killing her because Cersei thinks that she's responsible for Joffery's death. + Show Spoiler +Remember Jaime 4 seasons ago? Lol. Not saying hes the same or different. Just interesting to see how our opinions of him may have changed since then. I wanna believe that Jaime is a better person now though. I also hope Jaime is a better person. I hope he won't agree to go and try to kill Sansa, but both him refusing and agreeing are plausible. I mean he is clearly fed up with his father and maybe even Cersei, but he also loves her. I guess he will be very conflicted and make the decision. I just hope it's not the ''Yeah I'll go by what my crazy lover/twin sister tells me and kill this innocent naive, broken little girl', decision. are you just blind or did you miss the scene where he raped his sister infront of the dead body of his son? i'm pretty sure that discounts any "hope" of him getting better anytime soon. if anything jamie is a straight up psychopath and that scene proved it. if you think he's getting better after pushing kids out of windows and raping spouses on their own kid's funeral you need a head check more than this fictional character. If you are forced to use personal attack to get a point across, your point is automatically invalid. Learn to discuss in a normal manner please. Seriously I have had enough of this hypermoralizing "if you dont agree with me you are a psycho" bs.
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I'm just wondering if they are already working on a new season.
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On April 28 2014 04:57 urboss wrote: I'm just wondering if they are already working on a new season. For this season they started filming in July, so it is probably the same for this one.
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Do we have any news about how they're spreading out the seasons?
Currently I understand:
Season 1: Book one Season 2: Book two Season 3: 60% of book three. Season 4: Rest of book three, beginning of book four, and maybe a little book five Season 5: ? Season 6: ?
According to the plan, it is to have seven seasons according to the producers. How exactly do they plan to fit seven books into 7 seasons if the last books are super big, and they are already doing more than one season/book?
source: http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/03/11/game-of-thrones-7-seasons/
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Well by the pigeonhole principle they will have to cover more than one book in one season. Can't really say anymore without talking about what happens in books. Maybe take it to the other thread?
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On April 28 2014 05:39 scudst0rm wrote: Well by the pigeonhole principle they will have to cover more than one book in one season. Can't really say anymore without talking about what happens in books. Maybe take it to the other thread?
I was just asking if there's been any information about what the next seasons will cover with respect to the books.
We had that information for the first 4 seasons, and it has been posted here. What I am asking does not in any way spoil anything. -_-
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On April 26 2014 08:21 Dfgj wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2014 15:08 Shock710 wrote: so hes writting a letter saying, oh hi ironbank i know ur not getting ur money from tywin, if u give money to stanis he will take the throne and pay u back the gold. (that seems pretty sketchy cause isnt tywins motto lannisters always pay their debts?) So u would think the ironbank would just stick with tywin (he did just crush the north and beat back stanis) The throne is held by the Baratheons. Lannisters are allied but the Kingdom's debts are not theirs (the throne owes a fuckton to them, mentioned in S1).
Well, judging by the royal heraldry (both lion and stag), Joffrey may have founded a cadet branch (an unusual thing for a ruling monarch to do) of house Baratheon. Stannis seems to have done the same (lion and heart), despite the fact that he, too, would believe he had a right to the main line, certainly over Renly, who did seem to keep Baratheon heraldry.
All that said, the Lannisters have the Regent, the Hand, and the Master of Coin; even if you discount their incestous children, they clearly are linked to the whole payment of debt issue.
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All seven books will be written around year 2022 if GRRM keeps his pace, so I guess it doesnt really matter now
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On April 28 2014 05:48 FiWiFaKi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2014 05:39 scudst0rm wrote: Well by the pigeonhole principle they will have to cover more than one book in one season. Can't really say anymore without talking about what happens in books. Maybe take it to the other thread? I was just asking if there's been any information about what the next seasons will cover with respect to the books. We had that information for the first 4 seasons, and it has been posted here. What I am asking does not in any way spoil anything. -_- It is entirely possible to (accidentally) spoil things by talking about that subject. Not that likely, but better be safe than sorry. I'm fairly certain there's no answer to your question out there yet, though.
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On April 28 2014 05:35 FiWiFaKi wrote:Do we have any news about how they're spreading out the seasons? Currently I understand: Season 1: Book one Season 2: Book two Season 3: 60% of book three. Season 4: Rest of book three, beginning of book four, and maybe a little book five Season 5: ? Season 6: ? According to the plan, it is to have seven seasons according to the producers. How exactly do they plan to fit seven books into 7 seasons if the last books are super big, and they are already doing more than one season/book? source: http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/03/11/game-of-thrones-7-seasons/
Maybe they meant 7 seasons to cover the current books (aka 1-5)? I dunno.
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Personally I think they will need to go 8 seasons to cover all the material. At the end of season 4 they will have finished 3 of the 7 books and done some of book 4 and 5. That would leave them 3 seasons to do 4 books, 2 that have not yet been released. So far they have either done a single book or half a book in a season, never 2 books in 1 season. I just do not think that is possible. I think they will need 2 seasons to cover book 4 and 5 and at least 1 season per the last 2 books. And maybe the contents of the last two books will be more than expected so it could even take 9 seasons. But I think doing it is 8 is reasonable, but 7 seems impossible to me.
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Michael Bay will direct season 5 :D
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On April 28 2014 05:54 Yoav wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2014 08:21 Dfgj wrote:On April 25 2014 15:08 Shock710 wrote: so hes writting a letter saying, oh hi ironbank i know ur not getting ur money from tywin, if u give money to stanis he will take the throne and pay u back the gold. (that seems pretty sketchy cause isnt tywins motto lannisters always pay their debts?) So u would think the ironbank would just stick with tywin (he did just crush the north and beat back stanis) The throne is held by the Baratheons. Lannisters are allied but the Kingdom's debts are not theirs (the throne owes a fuckton to them, mentioned in S1). Well, judging by the royal heraldry (both lion and stag), Joffrey may have founded a cadet branch (an unusual thing for a ruling monarch to do) of house Baratheon. Stannis seems to have done the same (lion and heart), despite the fact that he, too, would believe he had a right to the main line, certainly over Renly, who did seem to keep Baratheon heraldry. All that said, the Lannisters have the Regent, the Hand, and the Master of Coin; even if you discount their incestous children, they clearly are linked to the whole payment of debt issue.
King Robert gave Storm's End to Renly, making him the lord of the stormlands (Baratheon lands). I guess Stannis abandoned the stag out of protest. Stannis was given Dragonstone, but it's not surprising that he did not adopt the Targ heraldry.
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Can someone tell me whos the best fighters of these bunch? I dont think I missed anyone.. barristan selmy when he wasnt old the hound the mountain grey worm jamie lannister when he had 2 arms king roberts when he wasnt fat ned stark khal drogo prince oberyn
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How would we know? Its just such a pointless discussion^^
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