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Awesome episode. Loved these in no particular order: 1. Hot pie! And the "have you been making pies?" 2. Sand snakes dead! 3. Jon grabbing Littlefinger reminding me of when Ned grabbed him in a similar fashion outside the brothel 4. Nymeria? 5. Sam going yolo with the surgery 6. Jon leaves winterfell as soon as Arya decides to go back lmao #starkreunions 7. Missandei so fine 8. Eurons axe so fucking sick
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sad cause bad
greyjoy fleet coming out of nowhere in the middle of the night to find greyjoy fleet is such epic story telling...
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On July 24 2017 11:48 Necro)Phagist( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 11:07 Topin wrote: theon is beyond saving now... what is he gonna do now... hang himself??? In defense of Theon and his actions, there was no positive outcome for him staying and fighting. Euron would have just slit Yara's throat the second he took a step forward so even best case if he some how managed to win the fight(Like1% chance he beats Euron.) after his sister is still dead. Worst case she dies and he loses the fight either dying or taken as a slave again, and after the whole Ramsay deal I don't think he was going to go for that. Yea it was cowardly to literally abandon ship like that, but also the smartest move. At least now he is alive to come back for revenge. I didn't think Euron was threatening to kill her if he attacked. I thought it was the opposite, I'll kill her unless you save her, come try.
Theon didn't do the logical thing. He did the PTSD flashbackiest thing.
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yey reek survives put him on the iron throne
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I honestly feel so bad for Theon. And the actor portrayed those emotions very well.
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Very nice episode for me, the best in long time, well developed story and dialogues, Euron was a badass, Theon will never recover from torture, he has to die soon (very good acting btw), the only thing that seemed awkward was the Grey Worn scene, not relevant at all, Nymeria and Arya reunion for me means that Arya no longer belongs to the North.
not knowing the map, they could go from Dragonstone to Casterly Rock without ships?
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Who wants a pus soup btw? Sorry for the double post, wrong button.
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On July 24 2017 12:55 Noocta wrote: The final battle kinda happened out of nowhere to me. How did Euron even find them on the sea like that. :o Because plot, plot drives characters instead of characters driving plot. It's the sign of bad writing when you needed a plot to move along but couldn't justify it properly, you just cut out the build. The only build here was Euron said he'd bring back a prize for circe. It lacks development so we get no pay-off it's just oh so that happened.
Not saying it's easy to write a show like this with too many cooks to follow but yeah it's a throw away. One that probably shouldn't have been because it's pretty major plot development.
Personally, whoever directed the episode is almost evil, considering there was the match cut with surgery into food, dick move.
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Laughed my ass off when Reek/Theon added his "contribution" to the fight and in all honesty what else could he do, i mean he is useless, maybe use himself as cannon fodder or something?
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Would anyone else have really preferred it if Dany and Tyrion were launching their conquest from Storm's End instead of Dragonstone? I know it's cool to show Stannis' table again, but the symoblism would have been much stronger.
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On July 24 2017 16:04 Six.Strings wrote: Would anyone else have really preferred it if Dany and Tyrion were launching their conquest from Storm's End instead of Dragonstone? I know it's cool to show Stannis' table again, but the symoblism would have been much stronger. It would make too much sense, they sailed north just to sail south again, plus it's not like they could go anywhere on that island they'd have to move all their troops to the mainland anyways.
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I thought that battle scene was so poorly shot. I couldn't tell what was happening. Between the dark setting, the super shaky cams and the many cuts; it was all just a mess.
Overall, a passable episode. Everything is just going so fast; there's no time to really process anything. I did not like that Grey Worm/Missandei scene either. Too long, dialogue was too corny.
Strongest moment was by far Varys' speech. Fantastic stuff; well written, well acted. Real solid. Overall Dany's war council was very enjoyable. The rest though...
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On July 24 2017 11:24 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 11:20 blade55555 wrote:On July 24 2017 11:07 Topin wrote: theon is beyond saving now... what is he gonna do now... hang himself??? i believe Arya will go back to Kings Landing after her encounter with Nymeria I don't think Arya is going back to Kings Landing, pretty sure she's going to keep heading North. As for Theon, no idea what will happen to him. the meaning that the scene with Nymeria gave (at least for me) was that Arya wont fit in the North the same Nymeria wont fit being arround Arya now. Nymeria grew to be wild ... same as Ary, kinda. this parallel, for me, means that she will turn back to Kings Landing. I agree with this. That scene was heartbreaking, but I also thought that it was too good to be true that she would reunite with Sansa so early.
E: The naval battle was pretty damn random, but in the writers' defense, ships sailing close to shore (assuming this was the case) its not uncommon for naval battle to happen suddenly due to line of sight being cut off by the cliff/beach heads. I watched some Invicta documentary (YouTube) that reminded me of this.
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miss targaryan's been playing with stupid newbies for too long. that's pretty bad move quality and it's hard to replace those pieces. she's all like "HI, IMMA HERE 2 WIN!!!! RITE NOW"
jarjar khaleesi
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For me it was a very good episode, I keep really liking the show. Especially - Arya and Nymeria - Daenerys' council of war - the naval battle! very nicely shot and for once I found the dornish sisters also enjoyable - Jon / Sansa / Littlefinger's games - there's some tension building up which makes the storyline interesting for me
Overall, from these first two episodes, I am very satisfied with how things are wrapping up. One could have expected a swift end of the conflict with Daenerys coming to Westeros, allying with Jon and defeating Cersei, just to then face the zombie menace but it seems there are still issues and intrigues to develop (and it doesn't seem that the Jon / Daenerys alliance is going to be so smooth, between Sansa opposing Jon's decision and Danerys asking Jon to "bend the knee").
I would have liked to see some more of the Hound storyline in this episode, and also the Brann plot (which seems super important at this point). Btw the Stark's family is very close now, with the exception of Jon going to meet Dany - Sansa / Brann / Arya are all converging towards Winterfell - unless Arya changes her mind and goes back to killing Cersei (but imo that was not the point of the scene with Nymeria)
p.s. sorry I'm sure I mispelled some names :D
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> - the naval battle! very nicely shot and for once I found the dornish sisters also enjoyable
I enjoyed that very much as well.
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On July 24 2017 17:17 Emnjay808 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2017 11:24 Topin wrote:On July 24 2017 11:20 blade55555 wrote:On July 24 2017 11:07 Topin wrote: theon is beyond saving now... what is he gonna do now... hang himself??? i believe Arya will go back to Kings Landing after her encounter with Nymeria I don't think Arya is going back to Kings Landing, pretty sure she's going to keep heading North. As for Theon, no idea what will happen to him. the meaning that the scene with Nymeria gave (at least for me) was that Arya wont fit in the North the same Nymeria wont fit being arround Arya now. Nymeria grew to be wild ... same as Ary, kinda. this parallel, for me, means that she will turn back to Kings Landing. I agree with this. That scene was heartbreaking, but I also thought that it was too good to be true that she would reunite with Sansa so early. E: The naval battle was pretty damn random, but in the writers' defense, ships sailing close to shore (assuming this was the case) its not uncommon for naval battle to happen suddenly due to line of sight being cut off by the cliff/beach heads. I watched some Invicta documentary (YouTube) that reminded me of this.
The fleets meeting is not a surprise : Euron's was in King's landing at the back of blackwater bay, Asha's was in dragonstone which is guarding the exit of the same bay. When Asha moves in towards king's landing and/or when Euron moves out, they are bound to meet at some point. Bay is about 200 miles deep, so they are probably within a day of eachother to start with.
Euron could have been waiting out of sight, timed his departure to come within range only at night or just been lucky with the storm hiding his approach.
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lucky ? episode 1:Euron: i gonna give you a priceless gift,episode 2:euron attacked the ship that just did happen to have the sands on board lul..
Theon scene was really funny :D oh Ramsay how much i miss you :/
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Euron's entry to Yara ship was so well done, what a badass.
Yara's naval command seems pretty shitty though if she only realizes shes under attack when boats are aready burning. No scout system?
Jon storyline is a bit dull . 'Entire north: this is a bullshit idea and against any traditions.' 'Jon: I know this is bullshit but you have to trust me' 'Entire north: Aye it's a good idea'. That thing has repeated for like 5 times already. Without Littlefinger and his knights his bullshit ideas would've gotten them all killed already. And he doesn't even give Littlefinger time to talk even though they 'can't defeat Night King alone and need all allies'...well Littlefinger wants to be an ally, hear him out ffs
Rest of the episode was pretty great. Varys is so awesome
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On July 24 2017 18:43 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote: lucky ? episode 1:Euron: i gonna give you a priceless gift,episode 2:euron attacked the ship that just did happen to have the sands on board lul.
Not lucky to find them of course, his intention was clear. But I believe Euron as described in those 2 episodes would just charge to battle regardless of the weather.
Coming in the cover of the night ... could have been planned. Taking advantage of a timely storm needs a bit of luck unless we consider he has the magic to bend winds and sea to his will.
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