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On April 22 2013 06:21 Promises wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 06:08 EpiK wrote:Oblivion 3/10 Looked nice. But all-around, it's trash. Have to agree here. The visuals are very nice, but they hang it all on the plot being a mystery, but pretty much halfway in when a certain someone pops on screen you pretty much instantly figure out the remainder of the, rather long, movie. Meh,
I disagree completely, I loved the plot and thought it had enough twists and unknown elements to make you really go wtf is going on
really good story and well thought out
9/10 from me
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Punch-Drunk Love
One of those movies that you can tell is a good movie, but you don't really enjoy it, or don't walk away with a good feeling. If that makes sense to anyone else. It had a lot of good imagery, and cinematography. And the script was perfectly believable. The characters were interesting. I just didn't get a good vibe from it. Kind of the same feeling I got after watching Apocalypse Now. I didn't particularly like the experience, but it was very interesting.
I'm glad I watched it, and I think it did exactly what it set out to do, but I don't like the feeling I take away from it. Maybe it was just frustrating watching someone with those kind of mental problems operate for a whole movie.
Ignoring the movie as a whole, there were a few great scenes. + Show Spoiler +The car crash at the beginning blew my mind, because it came out of no where and I didn't know what I was supposed to be looking for. Their first kiss was also pretty great. The way he kicks down the door, and is in complete control. Similar to the scene where he beats up the blonde brothers later. It just seems very unexpected, but satisfying.
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Just watched the new-ish 2011 Wuthering Heights:
This took me a few days to get through due to not having much time, but also it being somewhat of a chore to watch. Wuthering Heights is one of my favorite novels ever, and this is at least an interesting take on the story with a strong artistic perspective (meaning it passes my why does this exist? test for adaptations). This version is straight up 100% the story from Heathcliff's point of view, shot in very naturalistic, unfrilled, unenhanced 4:3--so lo-fi it's almost dismal and some scenes are very dark and muddled and hard to tell what's going on (which I don't doubt is a purposeful choice). In this way it's extremely faithful to the novel, capturing the brutality of these hard and desperate lives. I have to question but not judge the 4:3 (you have to see what it would have looked like in a normal aspect ratio to really judge the choice) since Heathcliff acts very much as an observer who sees a lot, and the land and setting is as much the star of the novel as any character. But then Heathcliff is sort of trapped in a tunnel vision of a life and love, in that way it does make sense.
The raw power and emotion and passion is well expressed as long as your palate doesn't reject the whole look and feel of the film. I have to say though it's significantly less captivating observing from Heathcliff's POV rather than from the eyes of an outside observer getting the ingeniously told tale from the servant Nelly, which adds this amazing voyeuristic captivation factor to the novel. The ending is also a little iffy as expected, since it cuts out the second half of the novel (like most adaptations I think), and the fact that the story is unfinished is pretty apparent, but it's not too harmful.
Overall it's easy to lose the thread on some of the challengingly inaccessible scenes, but it is rewarding also.
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The Land Beyond the Pines 9/10 Just watched this yesterday. Nothing groundbreaking story-wise but the dialogue and characters made it engaging. Ryan Gosling's and Dane Dehaan's performances really stood out. Cinematography and soundtrack worked beautifully together as well. As for the ending, I don't think I've felt something like that in a really long time.
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On April 21 2013 23:50 Chytilova wrote:Wong Kar-Wai's breakout film Chungking Express (1994) I remembered how much I love Wong Kar-Wai's use of colors when seeing this again. It's a whimsical and quirky dual-story romance of break-ups and moving on in the urban jungle of Hong Kong and is certainly a lighter and more uptempo Wong Kar-Wai movie. The first story does have a crime angle, but it's more of a homage to Hong Kong gangster movies than a serious plot line. I could do without the slow motion and time lapse except for when it finally works towards the end. But his quick editing is what really stuck out to me in this one. The drug smuggling scenes and when Faye is messing with 663's apartment being the stand outs. I still vastly prefer Happy Together and In the Mood for Love, but you cannot go wrong with any Wong Kar-Wai film. I should check this out. Wong Kar-Wai is amazing.
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On a lighter note but continuing my love and passion thematic journey (man The Notebook vs. Wuthering Heights is quite a contrast): Lovestruck: The Musical (this is an abc family original movie musical)
OK, so the reason I watched this is not for the quaint charm of terrible made for TV musicals, but because the "Italian" villa where it mostly takes place and was filmed is not 100 yards from my house. Since the people who live there are rather less than neighborly though, this movie actually gave me the closest look of the place I've gotten in the 10 years since it was finished. For all its ostentatious positioning (in plain view on top of a cliff almost lording over a working class town, and fenced off from the rest of the middle class neighborhood) as a newly built mansion, it's not your expected monstrosity. The construction is actually pure class and quality, exquisite taste and beauty. Great care (and expense) was put into the details and it shows. So it's really cool to see that being Italy in a movie.
Oh and the movie was a little more tolerable than expected but the songs were really bad. One thing that was really weird was there was like a purely T 'n A sequence and this is an abc family channel movie. We can put that in the positives I guess, except that it's set to an earsplittingly horrible cover of Madonna's Like a Virgin.
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Kyrgyz Republic1462 Posts
Last Stand (6.5/10)
Pretty fun in a light-hearted, trashy way. If you liked The Expendables you will probably like this too, just don't expect a serious movie.
Oblivion (7.5/10)
Really underrated by critics, an honest, not overly pretentious, not completely braindead and visually amazing sci-fi movie. Has it faults, but definitely exceeded my expectations.
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totally loved it, while expecting to hate it, it's quite the movie
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Incredible movie indeed. Best female performance I've ever seen by Gena Rowlands, and the rest of the cast is incredible. Cassavetes is a genius.
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This movie makes me giggle like a schoolchild throughout pretty much the entire thing. I love Cronenberg, what can I say.
7/10 if you like weird, bad movies
4/10 if you have no sense of humor!
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On April 26 2013 04:19 farvacola wrote:+ Show Spoiler +This movie makes me giggle like a schoolchild throughout pretty much the entire thing. I love Cronenberg, what can I say. 7/10 if you like weird, bad movies 4/10 if you have no sense of humor!
You kidding me??? It's a 10/10 if you like insanely weird, not bad in the least, movies! :D
You act like enjoying Cronenberg is a bad thing Long live the new flesh!
On April 26 2013 04:12 corumjhaelen wrote: Best female performance I've ever seen by Gena Rowlands...
I actually think she gives an even better performance in Cassavetes' Opening Night. It's more nuanced. Both performances are of course amazing though.
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Absolutely the funniest movie i have ever seen, with some real emotional (i hesitate to use this word cos its about terrorists) impact.
9.5/10
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On April 26 2013 07:53 Jockmcplop wrote:+ Show Spoiler +https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAGO_l_YTbk Absolutely the funniest movie i have ever seen, with some real emotional (i hesitate to use this word cos its about terrorists) impact. 9.5/10
I loved that movie.
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Went to watch Oblivion 3/10 0 original ideas, liked the music, it was like in Deus Ex:HR oh and the predictability, 10 minutes in and you might as well leave. And another thing: too much Tom Cruise. It looked alright, which I guess matters with sci-fi movies, so that's another point.
On April 22 2013 06:21 Promises wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 06:08 EpiK wrote:Oblivion 3/10 Looked nice. But all-around, it's trash. Have to agree here. The visuals are very nice, but they hang it all on the plot being a mystery, but pretty much halfway in when a certain someone pops on screen you pretty much instantly figure out the remainder of the, rather long, movie. Meh,
+ Show Spoiler +I figured out it at "5 years since mind wipe, "scavengers", and when he picked up the book, that's way before halfway Django 6/10 The D is silent. The story was meh-ish what can I say. Some of the dialogue was really poor IMHO. Bad pacing for such a long movie. Quentin Tarantino trying to do aussie accent was cringeworthy. oh yeah, really disliked the hiphop music extra point for Waltz pulling on his moustache
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Watched Midnight in Paris yesterday and i quite like it, best thing in the movie however, is the portrayal of Ernest Hemingway
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On April 27 2013 02:32 HwangjaeTerran wrote:Went to watch Oblivion 3/10 0 original ideas, liked the music, it was like in Deus Ex:HR oh and the predictability, 10 minutes in and you might as well leave. And another thing: too much Tom Cruise. It looked alright, which I guess matters with sci-fi movies, so that's another point. Show nested quote +On April 22 2013 06:21 Promises wrote:On April 22 2013 06:08 EpiK wrote:Oblivion 3/10 Looked nice. But all-around, it's trash. Have to agree here. The visuals are very nice, but they hang it all on the plot being a mystery, but pretty much halfway in when a certain someone pops on screen you pretty much instantly figure out the remainder of the, rather long, movie. Meh, + Show Spoiler +I figured out it at "5 years since mind wipe, "scavengers", and when he picked up the book, that's way before halfway + Show Spoiler +Personally, I dont see how 5 years since mind wipe, scavengers and picking up a book leads you into knowing what the mystery is. There are probably dozens of possibilities still out there. Just because you happened to pick the right one out of those dozens doesnt make it predictable that early on. If I make a guess about a movie before I watch it, and guess right... that is not predictable. That is luck in picking a thematically similar storyline. People need to not judge a movie that has a mystery solely on the mystery. If you do, you will be disappointed when you try to make a guess and happen to guess right. We have thousands of years of stories being told, none are going to be unique anymore. It has all been told.
The acting was decent, story was well told, it was entertaining and overall well crafted. I dont get how you can get 3/10 from it.
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+ Show Spoiler + Basically it's the narration in the beginning about "the humans winning the war" and the memory wipe(,for which they didn't even try to give a believable excuse) combined with the fact that memory loss of the main character is the worlds oldest known device for having the whole thing switched on its head. Which I'm sure each of us has encountered a fair number of times. So, I already had this suspicion 2 minutes in the movie and all the following points only made it seem like that was the case. Now if it was anything but a movie (and a movie with tom cruise with a gun in the poster at that) we could leave other options open. But it's an action movie with very little time for anything more than that. And if it tried to be any more complicated than that it would probably be both hard to follow and really silly. In Hollywood, they don't take chances like that. A. - the mind wipe tells us the whole human migration thing is bullshit, from all the sci-fi I've seen missing memories tend to mean alien abduction or cloning - the TET is a massive thing and there's supposed to be a whole bunch of survivors, yet these two have had a 5 year shift although the technology seems advanced enough that a trip to the orbit wouldn't be too difficult and only one person is shown "at the other end" - we are supposed to believe the aliens blew up moon just like that and then came to earth to fight with infantry alone? Reminds me of LoGH, where they'd battle with barrages of lasers and inside the space ships with axes lol, although that at least makes some sense because you want to avoid making holes in the hull. Anyway there's no advanced technology apart from the TET stuff to be seen. B. - the drone had shot 4 scavengers, next scene we see the scavenger with binoculars who steals his bike. down in the library, after all the camera waving, we see clearly they are humanoids C. - in the base of operations we see no remnants of the old civilization, no books or anything. Like there's some big brother system forbidding that. All the stuff can't be contaminated or he wouldn't be walking around all day without any protection. Then he picks up the book. Now here's another classic device, "the chosen one" who defies the thought police. Of course there wasn't anything like that in the movie, not exactly, but it pretty much sealed the deal for me. That what we were told in the beginning was exactly opposite to the truth. Another thing you might've noticed in that scene: he didn't hit anyone. I mean, that would be inconvenient in light of the rest of the movie. Now there's no moral dilemma & we are PC as fuck. D. - "a radiation zone", you go there and you fry in seconds, loi! that one can only work on scientologists, surely
If it was the real Jack who built the shack by the lake, then I guess the Vika with the picture of the two of them was the real Vika too. That was a funny detail imho.
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On April 27 2013 06:02 TheRabidDeer wrote:Show nested quote +On April 27 2013 02:32 HwangjaeTerran wrote:Went to watch Oblivion 3/10 0 original ideas, liked the music, it was like in Deus Ex:HR oh and the predictability, 10 minutes in and you might as well leave. And another thing: too much Tom Cruise. It looked alright, which I guess matters with sci-fi movies, so that's another point. On April 22 2013 06:21 Promises wrote:On April 22 2013 06:08 EpiK wrote:Oblivion 3/10 Looked nice. But all-around, it's trash. Have to agree here. The visuals are very nice, but they hang it all on the plot being a mystery, but pretty much halfway in when a certain someone pops on screen you pretty much instantly figure out the remainder of the, rather long, movie. Meh, + Show Spoiler +I figured out it at "5 years since mind wipe, "scavengers", and when he picked up the book, that's way before halfway + Show Spoiler +Personally, I dont see how 5 years since mind wipe, scavengers and picking up a book leads you into knowing what the mystery is. There are probably dozens of possibilities still out there. Just because you happened to pick the right one out of those dozens doesnt make it predictable that early on. If I make a guess about a movie before I watch it, and guess right... that is not predictable. That is luck in picking a thematically similar storyline. People need to not judge a movie that has a mystery solely on the mystery. If you do, you will be disappointed when you try to make a guess and happen to guess right. We have thousands of years of stories being told, none are going to be unique anymore. It has all been told. The acting was decent, story was well told, it was entertaining and overall well crafted. I dont get how you can get 3/10 from it. I wouldn't mind an unoriginal story as long as it's executed well for any other genre. But for sci-fi, an original plot premise/story should be the main appeal of the flick. Oblivion's writing was just downright lazy.
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