one other thing "Absence of Malice" taught me... the nasty tricks media people play to create click-bait stories with flashy headlines has been going on since before 1980. the whole "guilty until proven innocent" thing has been going on forever as well.
The most shocking accusations always go on page one. When it turns out the person is innocent that either is never published or its buried.
its kind of cool to see these themes play out in a setting from 35+ years ago.
I KNOW THIS IS THE MOVIE THREAD, AND THIS IS A SERIES, but I kinda didn't wanna make a new topic titled "Series you have seen recently.". I feel series, when you binge them, are more like movies today, so I will write about glow, which I infact did not binge watch.
Glow is about a fictitious female wrestling show in the 80s. The setting is kinda fun, the show not very much for the first season. And the second season struggles along towards the half way point, at which point great and fun television happens out of nowhere. Which is meta, because the fictitious show struggles up to that point as well. Then I found myself suddenly, actually caring about some of it's characters and they really found their rhythm.
If the setting carries you through season one, and gazing at Britt Baron through the first half of the second season, then there is gold at the end of the rainbow.
I KNOW THIS IS THE MOVIE THREAD, AND THIS IS A SERIES, but I kinda didn't wanna make a new topic titled "Series you have seen recently.". I feel series, when you binge them, are more like movies today, so I will write about glow, which I infact did not binge watch.
Glow is about a fictitious female wrestling show in the 80s. The setting is kinda fun, the show not very much for the first season. And the second season struggles along towards the half way point, at which point great and fun television happens out of nowhere. Which is meta, because the fictitious show struggles up to that point as well. Then I found myself suddenly, actually caring about some of it's characters and they really found their rhythm.
If the setting carries you through season one, and gazing at Britt Baron through the first half of the second season, then there is gold at the end of the rainbow.
Glow was not a fictitious show.. I watched it when I was young....
My favorite wrestler was the nerdy/ librarian when she took her glasses off she "could not see" haha
Seriously, just that: NOT BAD. Like it was better than I expected (I went in with very low expectations), but I also enjoyed parts of the film. Recalling what I remember from the very first M.I., their characters came a long way and thats kinda what this movie focuses on. 2hr 40min is quite long as well, especially when you know the main casts has super strong plot armor. Kinda just ruins any build-up the film tries to develop with its tense, edge-of-seat scenes.
I wouldnt recommend this movie unless you're on the fence and somewhat enjoys the M.I. series.
On July 31 2018 05:42 JWD[9] wrote: What is plot armor? and wow guys, didn't know glow was real^^.
Plot armor. When a character should die but doesn't because they are important to the story.
It doesn't matter if Tom Cruise is hanging from a skyscraper or the side of an aircraft or caught in a building as it explodes. You know he will survive because he is the main character of the movie.
On July 31 2018 05:42 JWD[9] wrote: What is plot armor? and wow guys, didn't know glow was real^^.
Plot armor. When a character should die but doesn't because they are important to the story.
It doesn't matter if Tom Cruise is hanging from a skyscraper or the side of an aircraft or caught in a building as it explodes. You know he will survive because he is the main character of the movie.
Wouldn't it be shocking if he actually failed and died horribly? Then you change the universe to some 3 movies or so where the bad guys gradually take over the cities/governments only for a new force to stand up in the 4th installment (or whatever) to bring justice. And that force will be a dwarf. And the frachise shall henceforth be called: Mission IMPossible.
On July 31 2018 07:56 Uldridge wrote: Wouldn't it be shocking if he actually failed and died horribly? Then you change the universe to some 3 movies or so where the bad guys gradually take over the cities/governments only for a new force to stand up in the 4th installment (or whatever) to bring justice. And that force will be a dwarf. And the frachise shall henceforth be called: Mission IMPossible.
That's what drew so many people into GoT. The fact that (almost) no one is safe
On July 31 2018 07:56 Uldridge wrote: Wouldn't it be shocking if he actually failed and died horribly? Then you change the universe to some 3 movies or so where the bad guys gradually take over the cities/governments only for a new force to stand up in the 4th installment (or whatever) to bring justice. And that force will be a dwarf. And the frachise shall henceforth be called: Mission IMPossible.
That's what drew so many people into GoT. The fact that (almost) no one is safe
That works for a little while, but just becomes abusive towards people investing their time in the show long term. Its great for a single season. Not very good for 7 seasons.
On July 31 2018 07:56 Uldridge wrote: Wouldn't it be shocking if he actually failed and died horribly? Then you change the universe to some 3 movies or so where the bad guys gradually take over the cities/governments only for a new force to stand up in the 4th installment (or whatever) to bring justice. And that force will be a dwarf. And the frachise shall henceforth be called: Mission IMPossible.
That's what drew so many people into GoT. The fact that (almost) no one is safe
That works for a little while, but just becomes abusive towards people investing their time in the show long term. Its great for a single season. Not very good for 7 seasons.
so you like knowing that your favorite character cant die?
On July 31 2018 07:56 Uldridge wrote: Wouldn't it be shocking if he actually failed and died horribly? Then you change the universe to some 3 movies or so where the bad guys gradually take over the cities/governments only for a new force to stand up in the 4th installment (or whatever) to bring justice. And that force will be a dwarf. And the frachise shall henceforth be called: Mission IMPossible.
That's what drew so many people into GoT. The fact that (almost) no one is safe
That works for a little while, but just becomes abusive towards people investing their time in the show long term. Its great for a single season. Not very good for 7 seasons.
so you like knowing that your favorite character cant die?
To be honest, I dislike shows that do the same thing over and over again. So when shows kill characters to shock the audience for 4 years straight, I get kinda bored.
But death is not the only way to create drama. It is not the only loss someone can feel. Shows that rely on the death of characters to evoke shock and drama are fun at first, but tiring over time. It can become a trick that the writers break out when things get dull or drag. And the other half of that is that the audience is also watching to see who makes it through the meat grinder.
Very few GoT characters die for shock value. It's shocking because "omg main character dying", but in terms of plot direction basically every "narrator" character that dies servers very specific purposes for the story.
Most is a lot more clear in hindsight (obviously), but once the overall setting and tone is created then there are some blatant tells when one character's plot is on a linear line, and either they need to die because their personal endgame ruins the overall plot, or something drastic needs to happen to redirect them and the people around them.
The TV series gets a bit worse in the later seasons with their original content, with people dying just to clear up their loose ends or some characters stagnating for longer than they should. But it's still telegraphed really hard.