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On April 21 2018 19:08 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 09:36 Slaughter wrote: Midoriya vs Todoroki was fucking awesome. Oh yeah, that was an amazing fight. It had EVERYTHING. Show nested quote +On April 21 2018 17:43 Emnjay808 wrote: what are the good animes this season? srs answers only plx Counting sequels? What genre?
Emnjay loves shit shows. Hope that helps.
On that matter, there is a new season of High School DxD Emnjay!
+ Show Spoiler +I know he doesn't like it...
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Franxx was really strong this week.
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On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well?
And people are hating on it
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Franxx was awesome. Ichigo hate has dropped a bit but I'm now curious to what the hell is going on in that gran crevasse thing.
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On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama.
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On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama.
What was that? There wasn't really anything weak about it.
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On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. I'm not really sure I agree with that. I'm assuming you're talking about them not allowing hiro+02 to talk to each other for "melodrama" effects? + Show Spoiler +The thing that doesn't sit well with me when people argue that it was just a cheap pull for drama is that it did make sense given the situation. 02 is literally a monster who tried to kill Hiro. They don't know about all the parts we saw during the episode and if I ever ran into a supernatural being that tries to kill me I'd hope my friends would hold me back as well if I decided that I wanted to talk with her. I mean we've seen what she did to the group of kids when hiro wasn't there
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On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. Sounds par for the course for Franxx
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On April 22 2018 04:11 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. I'm not really sure I agree with that. I'm assuming you're talking about them not allowing hiro+02 to talk to each other for "melodrama" effects? + Show Spoiler +The thing that doesn't sit well with me when people argue that it was just a cheap pull for drama is that it did make sense given the situation. 02 is literally a monster who tried to kill Hiro. They don't know about all the parts we saw during the episode and if I ever ran into a supernatural being that tries to kill me I'd hope my friends would hold me back as well if I decided that I wanted to talk with her. I mean we've seen what she did to the group of kids when hiro wasn't there
That was the problem with people hating on Ichigo. She doesn't know 02 is an anime protagonist and that she is going to be all right. Her and the team made pretty rational decisions. Even if it was aligned with her own self interest.
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On April 22 2018 04:11 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. Sounds par for the course for Franxx
Better then anything FMP ever put out.
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On April 22 2018 04:15 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 04:11 Sentenal wrote:On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. Sounds par for the course for Franxx Better then anything FMP ever put out. Is Sent actually watching Franxx? I thought he dropped it or something.
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On April 22 2018 04:08 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. What was that? There wasn't really anything weak about it. If your drama relies on + Show Spoiler +them somehow leaving their rooms to see eachother at exactly the same time and missing eachother in the process it's pretty fucking shit drama. They couldn't write anything actually compelling and decided to rely on something this lazy. It's one of the laziest and weakest crutches a writer can rely on if they want to generate drama.
If i had to rate that episode it'd be like 3/10 at the very highest. What a poorly written episode. Then again, going straight from the best episode to the worst back to back is sort of impressive in its own right.
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On April 22 2018 04:17 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 04:15 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:11 Sentenal wrote:On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. Sounds par for the course for Franxx Better then anything FMP ever put out. Is Sent actually watching Franxx? I thought he dropped it or something. I thought he dropped it as well. Probably just still hating on it for the laughs
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On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. Huh? Everything leading up to episode 14 is the result of the first 13 episodes. + Show Spoiler + Ichigo did the only reasonable thing she could. Zero2 had already put Mitsuri in the hospital before, this is the second time she hurt Hiro and she was getting increasingly unstable/unreliable. Any squad leader would give such a person the boot.
Keeping Hiro from seeing Zero2 makes perfect sense. Zero2 is an alien that has tried to kill two of Ichigo's subordinants and Hiro has a completely irrational desire to see such a being. Keeping him isolated from her and safe is the only reasonable option she has in this situation.
Ichigo in desperation blurting out her feelings to Hiro is honestly the natural response when she sees his irrational obsession with Zero2.
Zero2 and Hiro missing eachother is sort of whatever in this episode. There'd be no difference if they haven't seen eachother as Hiro should eventually have seen the whole situation in it's entirety while Zero2 would still carry her grudge and rage over her treatment. It's just a device to accelerate the show.
If anything this episode should have happend after the Mitsuri incident and you have to give the writers credit for staying with a realistic response rather than some shitty plot device letting everything Zero2 did acceptable.
EDIT: Alright episode 15 was horrible. lol
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On April 22 2018 04:20 Unleashing wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 04:08 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. What was that? There wasn't really anything weak about it. If your drama relies on + Show Spoiler +them somehow leaving their rooms to see eachother at exactly the same time and missing eachother in the process it's pretty fucking shit drama. They couldn't write anything actually compelling and decided to rely on something this lazy. It's one of the laziest and weakest crutches a writer can rely on if they want to generate drama. If i had to rate that episode it'd be like 3/10 at the very highest. What a poorly written episode. Then again, going straight from the best episode to the worst back to back is sort of impressive in its own right.
Didn't really rely on it. More or less just used it as a trigger. It was going to happen eventually with how unstable she was.
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On April 22 2018 05:02 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 04:20 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 04:08 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. What was that? There wasn't really anything weak about it. If your drama relies on + Show Spoiler +them somehow leaving their rooms to see eachother at exactly the same time and missing eachother in the process it's pretty fucking shit drama. They couldn't write anything actually compelling and decided to rely on something this lazy. It's one of the laziest and weakest crutches a writer can rely on if they want to generate drama. If i had to rate that episode it'd be like 3/10 at the very highest. What a poorly written episode. Then again, going straight from the best episode to the worst back to back is sort of impressive in its own right. Didn't really rely on it. More or less just used it as a trigger. It was going to happen eventually with how unstable she was. Then why use that incredibly cheap device if the writers didn't have to rely on it? Regardless of why they did it, it's still fair to judge them for using it.
I'd go even farther than Unleashing in this case: + Show Spoiler [Franxxx ep 14] +Not only did 02 and Hiro miss each other while going for the other's location, the rest of the team was somehow absolutely clueless that this was going on. From Ichigo's "I'll just leave this knife with you for no reason at all", to Hiro escaping with his bed sheets and said knife, to each party missing each other on their way... everything about that whole situation felt like an attempt to cramp as many bad cliches in there as possible. For me, that is the definition of terrible and lazy writing.
That aside, the core conflict there is absolutely silly as well and it cannot be called logical or reasonable at all. The two partners voiced the need to talk to each other multiple times and it's very clear that this was a thing that needed talking about. None of the rest of the team had any idea what was going on inside the cockpit, so they should have had a need to understand that situation as well. But I guess this is another one of those absolutely obnoxious anime cliches; a conflict easily resolved if only the characters involved would talk to each other.
What makes this worse is the fact that everything that was happening in the show up until that moment was pointing to this plot development. Finally the mystery is resolved, the characters can talk to each other and set off on their shared journey... and then episode 14 happens. I'll be honest here: I was incredibly frustrated and mad as well, especially because I knew that this shitty drama is going to be resolved in a few episodes anyway. It's a waste of time and absolutely transparent, coming at the worst time possible. Episode 13 gets people excited and in the "here we go" mood and then the writers essentially punch them in the face for no reason at all.
So yeah, I think a 3/10 rating for episode 14 is very generous here. It was poorly written, poorly timed and poorly executed. They used episode 14 to set up a needless drama that gets resolved completely in episode 15 anyway. The show as a whole would've improved if they had just cut both episodes and went from 13 to the end of 15 straight away.
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On April 22 2018 06:40 Nezgar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 05:02 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:20 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 04:08 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. What was that? There wasn't really anything weak about it. If your drama relies on + Show Spoiler +them somehow leaving their rooms to see eachother at exactly the same time and missing eachother in the process it's pretty fucking shit drama. They couldn't write anything actually compelling and decided to rely on something this lazy. It's one of the laziest and weakest crutches a writer can rely on if they want to generate drama. If i had to rate that episode it'd be like 3/10 at the very highest. What a poorly written episode. Then again, going straight from the best episode to the worst back to back is sort of impressive in its own right. Didn't really rely on it. More or less just used it as a trigger. It was going to happen eventually with how unstable she was. Then why use that incredibly cheap device if the writers didn't have to rely on it? Regardless of why they did it, it's still fair to judge them for using it. I'd go even farther than Unleashing in this case: + Show Spoiler [Franxxx ep 14] +Not only did 02 and Hiro miss each other while going for the other's location, the rest of the team was somehow absolutely clueless that this was going on. From Ichigo's "I'll just leave this knife with you for no reason at all", to Hiro escaping with his bed sheets and said knife, to each party missing each other on their way... everything about that whole situation felt like an attempt to cramp as many bad cliches in there as possible. For me, that is the definition of terrible and lazy writing.
That aside, the core conflict there is absolutely silly as well and it cannot be called logical or reasonable at all. The two partners voiced the need to talk to each other multiple times and it's very clear that this was a thing that needed talking about. None of the rest of the team had any idea what was going on inside the cockpit, so they should have had a need to understand that situation as well. But I guess this is another one of those absolutely obnoxious anime cliches; a conflict easily resolved if only the characters involved would talk to each other.
What makes this worse is the fact that everything that was happening in the show up until that moment was pointing to this plot development. Finally the mystery is resolved, the characters can talk to each other and set off on their shared journey... and then episode 14 happens. I'll be honest here: I was incredibly frustrated and mad as well, especially because I knew that this shitty drama is going to be resolved in a few episodes anyway. It's a waste of time and absolutely transparent, coming at the worst time possible. Episode 13 gets people excited and in the "here we go" mood and then the writers essentially punch them in the face for no reason at all. So yeah, I think a 3/10 rating for episode 14 is very generous here. It was poorly written, poorly timed and poorly executed. They used episode 14 to set up a needless drama that gets resolved completely in episode 15 anyway. The show as a whole would've improved if they had just cut both episodes and went from 13 to the end of 15 straight away.
+ Show Spoiler +The core conflict was pretty realistic imo. The rest of the crew don't know 02 well and have only neutral at best impressions of her from previous rumors of her plus her attitude towards them. Then they see Hiro put in the hospital with strangulation marks around his neck. Yea I wouldn't want to let them see each other either for a while. Going from 13 to 15 would be silly, the only thing you could argue is that they could have extended the disconnect between Hiro and 02 and not have it resolved in 15.
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On April 22 2018 06:40 Nezgar wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 05:02 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:20 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 04:08 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. What was that? There wasn't really anything weak about it. If your drama relies on + Show Spoiler +them somehow leaving their rooms to see eachother at exactly the same time and missing eachother in the process it's pretty fucking shit drama. They couldn't write anything actually compelling and decided to rely on something this lazy. It's one of the laziest and weakest crutches a writer can rely on if they want to generate drama. If i had to rate that episode it'd be like 3/10 at the very highest. What a poorly written episode. Then again, going straight from the best episode to the worst back to back is sort of impressive in its own right. Didn't really rely on it. More or less just used it as a trigger. It was going to happen eventually with how unstable she was. Then why use that incredibly cheap device if the writers didn't have to rely on it? Regardless of why they did it, it's still fair to judge them for using it. I'd go even farther than Unleashing in this case: + Show Spoiler [Franxxx ep 14] +Not only did 02 and Hiro miss each other while going for the other's location, the rest of the team was somehow absolutely clueless that this was going on. From Ichigo's "I'll just leave this knife with you for no reason at all", to Hiro escaping with his bed sheets and said knife, to each party missing each other on their way... everything about that whole situation felt like an attempt to cramp as many bad cliches in there as possible. For me, that is the definition of terrible and lazy writing.
That aside, the core conflict there is absolutely silly as well and it cannot be called logical or reasonable at all. The two partners voiced the need to talk to each other multiple times and it's very clear that this was a thing that needed talking about. None of the rest of the team had any idea what was going on inside the cockpit, so they should have had a need to understand that situation as well. But I guess this is another one of those absolutely obnoxious anime cliches; a conflict easily resolved if only the characters involved would talk to each other.
What makes this worse is the fact that everything that was happening in the show up until that moment was pointing to this plot development. Finally the mystery is resolved, the characters can talk to each other and set off on their shared journey... and then episode 14 happens. I'll be honest here: I was incredibly frustrated and mad as well, especially because I knew that this shitty drama is going to be resolved in a few episodes anyway. It's a waste of time and absolutely transparent, coming at the worst time possible. Episode 13 gets people excited and in the "here we go" mood and then the writers essentially punch them in the face for no reason at all. So yeah, I think a 3/10 rating for episode 14 is very generous here. It was poorly written, poorly timed and poorly executed. They used episode 14 to set up a needless drama that gets resolved completely in episode 15 anyway. The show as a whole would've improved if they had just cut both episodes and went from 13 to the end of 15 straight away.
so if you had a guyfriend who literally ended up in hospital almost dying because of an abusive girlfriend, twice at that, who is still in love with her and then tells you "it's not really her fault for hurting me. Just let me talk with her to resolve this mess!" you'd be sitting next to him in the hospital and go "you know what? Yeah, you two should talk things through!" ? Like people already mentioned it's only made worse by the fact that she literally is a monster, or non-human of some sort that is literally able to fight off armed soldiers (as long as we're talking a hand full) with her inhuman strength+speed.
I find that to be laughable. I wouldn't let my friend close to that girl either.
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I thought the frustrations in episode 14 were necessary to make the payoff in episode 15 feel more impactful and satisfying.
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On April 22 2018 07:21 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2018 06:40 Nezgar wrote:On April 22 2018 05:02 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:20 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 04:08 Slaughter wrote:On April 22 2018 04:03 Unleashing wrote:On April 22 2018 03:54 Toadesstern wrote:On April 22 2018 03:43 Slaughter wrote: Franxx was really strong this week. like... the last 2 weeks as well? And people are hating on it Episode 14 of franxx was anything but strong. It relied on one of the weakest writing crutches known to man to generate drama. What was that? There wasn't really anything weak about it. If your drama relies on + Show Spoiler +them somehow leaving their rooms to see eachother at exactly the same time and missing eachother in the process it's pretty fucking shit drama. They couldn't write anything actually compelling and decided to rely on something this lazy. It's one of the laziest and weakest crutches a writer can rely on if they want to generate drama. If i had to rate that episode it'd be like 3/10 at the very highest. What a poorly written episode. Then again, going straight from the best episode to the worst back to back is sort of impressive in its own right. Didn't really rely on it. More or less just used it as a trigger. It was going to happen eventually with how unstable she was. Then why use that incredibly cheap device if the writers didn't have to rely on it? Regardless of why they did it, it's still fair to judge them for using it. I'd go even farther than Unleashing in this case: + Show Spoiler [Franxxx ep 14] +Not only did 02 and Hiro miss each other while going for the other's location, the rest of the team was somehow absolutely clueless that this was going on. From Ichigo's "I'll just leave this knife with you for no reason at all", to Hiro escaping with his bed sheets and said knife, to each party missing each other on their way... everything about that whole situation felt like an attempt to cramp as many bad cliches in there as possible. For me, that is the definition of terrible and lazy writing.
That aside, the core conflict there is absolutely silly as well and it cannot be called logical or reasonable at all. The two partners voiced the need to talk to each other multiple times and it's very clear that this was a thing that needed talking about. None of the rest of the team had any idea what was going on inside the cockpit, so they should have had a need to understand that situation as well. But I guess this is another one of those absolutely obnoxious anime cliches; a conflict easily resolved if only the characters involved would talk to each other.
What makes this worse is the fact that everything that was happening in the show up until that moment was pointing to this plot development. Finally the mystery is resolved, the characters can talk to each other and set off on their shared journey... and then episode 14 happens. I'll be honest here: I was incredibly frustrated and mad as well, especially because I knew that this shitty drama is going to be resolved in a few episodes anyway. It's a waste of time and absolutely transparent, coming at the worst time possible. Episode 13 gets people excited and in the "here we go" mood and then the writers essentially punch them in the face for no reason at all. So yeah, I think a 3/10 rating for episode 14 is very generous here. It was poorly written, poorly timed and poorly executed. They used episode 14 to set up a needless drama that gets resolved completely in episode 15 anyway. The show as a whole would've improved if they had just cut both episodes and went from 13 to the end of 15 straight away. so if you had a guyfriend who literally ended up in hospital almost dying because of an abusive girlfriend, twice at that, who is still in love with her and then tells you "it's not really her fault for hurting me. Just let me talk with her to resolve this mess!" you'd be sitting next to him in the hospital and go "you know what? Yeah, you two should talk things through!" ? Like people already mentioned it's only made worse by the fact that she literally is a monster, or non-human of some sort that is literally able to fight off armed soldiers (as long as we're talking a hand full) with her inhuman strength+speed. I find that to be laughable. I wouldn't let my friend close to that girl either. Nevermind said girlfriend for appearently no reason had already put another friend to the hospital, broke the arm of a friend trying to stop the assault and starting to show psychotic traits. Ichigo doing what she did makes her lowkey bestgirl of the show.
I legit think the studio skipped an episode just to please the outrage after episode 14. Considering how much emphasis they've put on Hiro, Zero2 and the Jian bird there not being an episode dedicated to see what happens when you seperate them or how the rest of the squad (Goro and Mitsuri in particular) react just seem so... Wrong.
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