On July 14 2014 17:37 bluQ wrote:
Oh and $WTB motivation for 1month race ....
Oh and $WTB motivation for 1month race ....
I second that. Im just like yeah 1 month, and then I just got bored at the end of act 1 because I had no one to play with.
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Varanice
United States1514 Posts
July 14 2014 09:40 GMT
#15681
On July 14 2014 17:37 bluQ wrote: Oh and $WTB motivation for 1month race .... I second that. Im just like yeah 1 month, and then I just got bored at the end of act 1 because I had no one to play with. | ||
bluQ
Germany1724 Posts
July 14 2014 10:18 GMT
#15682
On July 14 2014 18:40 Varanice wrote: I second that. Im just like yeah 1 month, and then I just got bored at the end of act 1 because I had no one to play with. And I'm too scared that I will just burn-out too fast and have even less motivation for 4month leagues ^^. | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
July 14 2014 15:07 GMT
#15683
On July 14 2014 18:40 Varanice wrote: I second that. Im just like yeah 1 month, and then I just got bored at the end of act 1 because I had no one to play with. me too but its kind of fun having softcore invasion, imagine what those invasion bosses would say I KILLED THAT EXILE SEVEN TIMES WHY DOES HE KEEP COMING BACK SFDSDGFJFJLKDSGFHK | ||
Eschaton
United States1245 Posts
July 14 2014 18:18 GMT
#15684
On July 14 2014 18:40 Varanice wrote: I second that. Im just like yeah 1 month, and then I just got bored at the end of act 1 because I had no one to play with. For me, the 1 month is a good amount of time for a HC league. I'm not willing to invest >1 month into a HC char in a game where I have 100 deaths on my SC char, but generally enjoy the challenge of HC in most games. It's a chance to get the HC league experience while not investing too much. For you guys that normally play only the HC in the 4-months, I can see that it could be tough to be motivated. | ||
LagLovah
Canada552 Posts
July 14 2014 20:07 GMT
#15685
Downsides so far, is that jesus is there so much crap to deal with, have to summon so much stuff, keep minion buffs up, curses. Upside is that it does a seemingly large amount of damage, eventually once I feel like dying, ill drop grace and purity and put up wrath/haste. Seems to snowball quite quickly, if i can get a few weapons up and spam spirits, still a few points away from the skill duration nodes, and I don't have echo yet, so lots of room to improve | ||
Cynry
810 Posts
July 14 2014 20:28 GMT
#15686
On July 14 2014 17:37 bluQ wrote: Show nested quote + On July 13 2014 03:40 Cynry wrote: So, posted some theorycraft on poe forums, and I'd like to get some thoughts from here as well. I'm sure there are some math of exiles around Just as an appetizer, flicker build using Avatar of Fire to proliferate 180k+ ignite damage. Should be fun if this works... http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/967303 Didn't read too much of your thread, at least not the numbers, i'll just trust you math skills. I played a flickerer for funzies on hardcore to level ~76. My experience with it: - your eyes will hurt, fall out, explode, implode and bleed all at the same time. - even tho I went to limit my aps by only using up to 1.35 atk/s weapons it was still too fast to efficently target mobs. - you need a solid and fast frenzy generator otherwise you will be too slow in terms of clearing speed. - try to use Bloodrage if possible, my toon had positive Chaos resi on merci and enough Lifereg to sustain Bloodrage even without Frenzy charges (was using Blooddance) - when generating frenzy charges via "on kill" you most likly won't have fun in partys. - Quartz flask and Leap slam was mandatory to not end up in weird and strange situations ^^' - going crit sounds funny because of "Recharge one charge on Criticalstrike" stat of flasks -> 90-100% uptime on granite and ~60% uptime on quartz is awesome as flickerer - impact damage is HUGE. So your general idea sounds legit, just try to fix the "problems" with flickerstrike - last but not least: /oos edit: looked a bit into ur passive tree; are you sure you want to go 2hand? with 1hand you could get away with a lot higher crit-efficiency (crit multi only at 55% with mediocre critchance) and did i miss the critchance calculation? ^^ 6,68 * 4,4 = ~30% cc before equips. would end up at approx ~35% with slight crit-equips. edit2: forgot that flicker had critchance on quality. 4*20 = 80% so about 5% needs to be added My 2cents to critchance, flicker strike and why I think you need auto-generation or go onehanded/dualwield for more crit: + Show Spoiler + 1,25 * 1,15 = 1,4375 attacks per second 1,4375 * 0,9 = ~1,3 aps with 90% accuarcy 1,3 * 0,4 = 0,52 crits per second So roughly every second attack will crit. With 3 frenzy stacks that would mean you will most likly consume two to proc one crit. That would end you up with 2x frenzy usage to proc one flicker-crit to proliferate a burn. 1. frenzy = 0,77 seconds 2. frenzy = 0,533 seconds 3. frenzy = 0,44 seconds using 3x frenzy going to take you about 1,7seconds (assuming NO ias support gem ) Now you'd need to factor in the ias from flicker into the flicker aps to know about how much a full rotation would take to proc a crit for 100% on some mob. Out of my ass errr head i would assume flicker will end up at something like 0,4 aps with full charges and lv20 gem. If two frenzy charges are enough to proc a crit, the left over frenzy charge would make it faster to generate the next two etc. etc. In all what I want to show with this is that if you don't "auto"-generate the charges i doubt that the clearing speed and skill rotation will be lot of fun Oh and $WTB motivation for 1month race .... Good stuff, thanks for that. The tree on the thread is outdated though, now going for this Basically, more crit chances, all 3 powercharges, a bit more crit multi, a lot less life. The choice of 2handed is because I need the biggest hit possible. Best scenario I don't need to crit to kill a white and keep on flicking. Yes, blood rage will be used, don't ask me how will I sustain it 'cause I don't know :D I'm leveling it right now in the 1 month league. It probably won't end well because of the gear requirement. So far, because of the tree, I'm leveling my first searing/flamblaster, so killing stuff is no issue (dayum those skills....). Completely going blind on this build, mana issues are showing (all 140% mana multi gems... good thing I don't need to level flicker), especially when running the 2 damage auras....which I can't do and still have enough for a single attack. My hope is that damage will be insane enough to be able to tone it down on the tree, and get more utility to make it viable. I tried a bit, the concept seems to work, even though I had shit gear and no crit chance. Could get very good by endgame. Edit : The more I think about it, the more I believe this build won't really work unless done the CI way. We'll see though Made a tree. Seems better indeed, unless I'm missing something CI build Would cost me around 6 regrets to switch, could still be an option. | ||
Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
July 14 2014 20:40 GMT
#15687
On July 14 2014 18:40 Varanice wrote: I second that. Im just like yeah 1 month, and then I just got bored at the end of act 1 because I had no one to play with. My only regret is not going SB to level | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
July 15 2014 04:07 GMT
#15688
On July 15 2014 05:40 Blitzkrieg0 wrote: Show nested quote + On July 14 2014 18:40 Varanice wrote: On July 14 2014 17:37 bluQ wrote: Oh and $WTB motivation for 1month race .... I second that. Im just like yeah 1 month, and then I just got bored at the end of act 1 because I had no one to play with. My only regret is not going SB to level I found a 17% quality SB totem in normal docks, immediately respecc'd to dual totem. Bought a soul mantle, planning to run SB + Raging Spirits + Decoy. Wish that Voideye were still a thing though... the HP on the decoy would be insane. EDIT: Probably not 100% safe, but I think I may have a viable build for the HC 1month. Trying to decide how to get a ton of mitigation, I can get by with relatively few damage nodes, but I want to grab at least a few aura ones. | ||
zergnewb
United States816 Posts
July 15 2014 04:22 GMT
#15689
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FalconHoof
Canada183 Posts
July 15 2014 18:41 GMT
#15690
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rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
July 15 2014 23:21 GMT
#15691
On July 16 2014 03:41 MaRCsoN wrote: Having a ton of fun in the 1 month. Some of the exile+invader combos were absolutely insane and had to be avoided at all costs. I noticed that they seemed to spawn in pairs as though it was a directed effort by GGG to kill us all. Looking forward to strongboxes tonight. I never played Onslaught but Ive heard it was difficult so I expect to see a lot of RIPS in global. Hopefully I dont add my own name to the list. I will just be happy to stop resetting instances cause of these fucking Invasion bosses, I myself, as well many of you, have been dealing with Invasion bosses for over 4 months now, im just sick of them. Some are easy, sure, but some of them like Cintiq, where they can reach you off the screen, are scary as hell, and ive wasted a lot of time resetting instances just to avoid some these insane bosses. But i digress, league is alot of fun so far regardless, and having the strongboxes coming (less than an hour away!), im super hyped for, at least id rather die to a strong box, where it's my choice to take it on or not, unlike running through ledge, and either fighting or tp'ing out and resetting. Anyways, gl to everyone, lets not all rip to boxes at the same time shall we? | ||
ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
July 15 2014 23:54 GMT
#15692
On July 16 2014 03:41 MaRCsoN wrote: Having a ton of fun in the 1 month. Some of the exile+invader combos were absolutely insane and had to be avoided at all costs. I noticed that they seemed to spawn in pairs as though it was a directed effort by GGG to kill us all. Looking forward to strongboxes tonight. I never played Onslaught but Ive heard it was difficult so I expect to see a lot of RIPS in global. Hopefully I dont add my own name to the list. i swear i have instances with more than two exiles/invaders T_T | ||
FalconHoof
Canada183 Posts
July 16 2014 02:08 GMT
#15693
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Miragee
8283 Posts
July 16 2014 08:22 GMT
#15694
On July 16 2014 08:54 ticklishmusic wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2014 03:41 MaRCsoN wrote: Having a ton of fun in the 1 month. Some of the exile+invader combos were absolutely insane and had to be avoided at all costs. I noticed that they seemed to spawn in pairs as though it was a directed effort by GGG to kill us all. Looking forward to strongboxes tonight. I never played Onslaught but Ive heard it was difficult so I expect to see a lot of RIPS in global. Hopefully I dont add my own name to the list. i swear i have instances with more than two exiles/invaders T_T It may be possible that they didn't remove the exile spawn from the core game. | ||
Probemicro
3708 Posts
July 16 2014 08:40 GMT
#15695
On July 16 2014 11:08 MaRCsoN wrote: OMFGGGGG Strongboxes are so fun. I cant believe I had to deal with invasion bosses for 4 months and this is what Ambushers go to do lol. Strongboxes FTW....also its fucking amazing not to have to deal with invaders. These rogue exiles by themselves tickle compared to some of the guys we've been dodging for months now. dont get complacent like how many of those in the 1 week ambush /invasion race do. boxes can be deceptively deadly to the unprepared. | ||
rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
July 16 2014 08:57 GMT
#15696
On July 16 2014 17:40 Probemicro wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2014 11:08 MaRCsoN wrote: OMFGGGGG Strongboxes are so fun. I cant believe I had to deal with invasion bosses for 4 months and this is what Ambushers go to do lol. Strongboxes FTW....also its fucking amazing not to have to deal with invaders. These rogue exiles by themselves tickle compared to some of the guys we've been dodging for months now. dont get complacent like how many of those in the 1 week ambush /invasion race do. boxes can be deceptively deadly to the unprepared. Lol, well i was partying with MaRCsoN today. We were in Sins 1 Merc, ID'd a yellow box, had detonate dead on it, and we had just cleared a huge pack in that hallway. I said lets just Scour the thing, he goes "fuck it, lets do it, its fine", i proceeded to tell him not to bother lol. He was quite insistent on doing it, so i stood wayyy back as he clicked on. I watched about 50 corpses just blow up in his face. Needless to say, he died. Rofl. RIP Marc....RIP.....You left me all alone at lvl 60+ you bastard. | ||
Qbek
Poland12923 Posts
July 16 2014 09:00 GMT
#15697
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r.Evo
Germany14054 Posts
July 16 2014 10:03 GMT
#15698
On July 16 2014 17:57 rebuffering wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2014 17:40 Probemicro wrote: On July 16 2014 11:08 MaRCsoN wrote: OMFGGGGG Strongboxes are so fun. I cant believe I had to deal with invasion bosses for 4 months and this is what Ambushers go to do lol. Strongboxes FTW....also its fucking amazing not to have to deal with invaders. These rogue exiles by themselves tickle compared to some of the guys we've been dodging for months now. dont get complacent like how many of those in the 1 week ambush /invasion race do. boxes can be deceptively deadly to the unprepared. Lol, well i was partying with MaRCsoN today. We were in Sins 1 Merc, ID'd a yellow box, had detonate dead on it, and we had just cleared a huge pack in that hallway. I said lets just Scour the thing, he goes "fuck it, lets do it, its fine", i proceeded to tell him not to bother lol. He was quite insistent on doing it, so i stood wayyy back as he clicked on. I watched about 50 corpses just blow up in his face. Needless to say, he died. Rofl. RIP Marc....RIP.....You left me all alone at lvl 60+ you bastard. You should be close enough to Lag and me to party with us pretty soon, I think it's safe to say that both our builds are broken enough to carry a 2men party easily anyway. =P | ||
rebuffering
Canada2436 Posts
July 16 2014 10:30 GMT
#15699
On July 16 2014 19:03 r.Evo wrote: Show nested quote + On July 16 2014 17:57 rebuffering wrote: On July 16 2014 17:40 Probemicro wrote: On July 16 2014 11:08 MaRCsoN wrote: OMFGGGGG Strongboxes are so fun. I cant believe I had to deal with invasion bosses for 4 months and this is what Ambushers go to do lol. Strongboxes FTW....also its fucking amazing not to have to deal with invaders. These rogue exiles by themselves tickle compared to some of the guys we've been dodging for months now. dont get complacent like how many of those in the 1 week ambush /invasion race do. boxes can be deceptively deadly to the unprepared. Lol, well i was partying with MaRCsoN today. We were in Sins 1 Merc, ID'd a yellow box, had detonate dead on it, and we had just cleared a huge pack in that hallway. I said lets just Scour the thing, he goes "fuck it, lets do it, its fine", i proceeded to tell him not to bother lol. He was quite insistent on doing it, so i stood wayyy back as he clicked on. I watched about 50 corpses just blow up in his face. Needless to say, he died. Rofl. RIP Marc....RIP.....You left me all alone at lvl 60+ you bastard. You should be close enough to Lag and me to party with us pretty soon, I think it's safe to say that both our builds are broken enough to carry a 2men party easily anyway. =P Lol well thats good to hear, im lvl 67 at the moment. So i dunno if you guys are mapping yet, i still havent killed Piety. I figure @ lvl 70 ill hit 3000hp, and ill be able to kill her, and start mapping. And i dont know what your guys schedule is, im going to bed right now (630am EST), be back on in 12 hours or so, regardless, hope we can get together sometime. GL and dont go dying you guys, careful on those strongboxes! lol. | ||
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United States4397 Posts
July 16 2014 11:20 GMT
#15700
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