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On November 12 2012 10:17 Signet wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 08:30 cLutZ wrote: Also, who hasn't been hoping for Oregon to FINALLY get to face an elite SEC team with something real on the line? Oh wait, everybody has been wanting to see that for 5 years. Oregon vs Auburn was the national championship game 2 years ago Oregon vs LSU last season, pretty important game too. Both of those games, Oregon fails to get over 100 yard rushing. Not to mention they lost both. Whats going on? They rush for 200+ easy against their fellow pac-12 powerhouse Stanford and USC don't they? + Show Spoiler + 2010 vs Stanford = 388 vs USC = 311 vs Auburn = 75
2011 vs Stanford = 232 vs USC = 209 vs LSU = 95
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Like I said, I'm from big-10 country and went to U Pitt. The SEC gets the accolades that it does because defense actually exists in that conference.
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Newest BCS standing : 1.) K-State 2.) Oregon 3.) Notre Dame 4.) Bama 5.) Georgia 6.) Florida 7.) Lsu 8.) Texas AM 9.) South Carolina 10.) Florida St.
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On November 12 2012 10:28 don_kyuhote wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 10:17 Signet wrote:On November 12 2012 08:30 cLutZ wrote: Also, who hasn't been hoping for Oregon to FINALLY get to face an elite SEC team with something real on the line? Oh wait, everybody has been wanting to see that for 5 years. Oregon vs Auburn was the national championship game 2 years ago Oregon vs LSU last season, pretty important game too. Both of those games, Oregon fails to get over 100 yard rushing. Not to mention they lost both. Whats going on? They rush for 200+ easy against their fellow pac-12 powerhouse Stanford and USC don't they? + Show Spoiler + 2010 vs Stanford = 388 vs USC = 311 vs Auburn = 75
2011 vs Stanford = 232 vs USC = 209 vs LSU = 95
Ya since 2000. Sec vs Pac-12 reg season games record: pac-12 12-11. If that number was something like SEC 20-3 i wouldn't even put up an argument. But since Pac-12 have a slight lead over such a "dominant" conference it sure tells me a different story. Maybe you should pay attention to college football not just SEC football. Oh and btw i love how you brought up the point about Oregon avgs vs pac-12 teams but couldn't move it against Auburn. But you forgot to leave out the fact that Auburn avg. 42.5 pts a game vs the SEC but could only manage to put up 22 pts vs a Oregon team that plays in a conference that plays no defense. gotta love SEC homers.
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On November 11 2012 23:15 Shellshock1122 wrote: Dear Kansas State, Oregon, Notre Dame + Bama in the SEC title game,
please don't mess up and let UGA into the title game somehow.
Thanks, Georgia Tech fans Who knows, maybe we could knock them off ourselves?
Ah, who am I kidding :'(
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On November 12 2012 11:23 Damiani wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 10:28 don_kyuhote wrote:On November 12 2012 10:17 Signet wrote:On November 12 2012 08:30 cLutZ wrote: Also, who hasn't been hoping for Oregon to FINALLY get to face an elite SEC team with something real on the line? Oh wait, everybody has been wanting to see that for 5 years. Oregon vs Auburn was the national championship game 2 years ago Oregon vs LSU last season, pretty important game too. Both of those games, Oregon fails to get over 100 yard rushing. Not to mention they lost both. Whats going on? They rush for 200+ easy against their fellow pac-12 powerhouse Stanford and USC don't they? + Show Spoiler + 2010 vs Stanford = 388 vs USC = 311 vs Auburn = 75
2011 vs Stanford = 232 vs USC = 209 vs LSU = 95
Ya since 2000. Sec vs Pac-12 reg season games record: pac-12 12-11. If that number was something like SEC 20-3 i wouldn't even put up an argument. But since Pac-12 have a slight lead over such a "dominant" conference it sure tells me a different story. Maybe you should pay attention to college football not just SEC football. Oh and btw i love how you brought up the point about Oregon avgs vs pac-12 teams but couldn't move it against Auburn. But you forgot to leave out the fact that Auburn avg. 42.5 pts a game vs the SEC but could only manage to put up 22 pts vs a Oregon team that plays in a conference that plays no defense. gotta love SEC homers.
And since the SEC started their dominance in 2006, the SEC is 8-5 against the Pac-12. :x
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On November 12 2012 11:23 Damiani wrote: Ya since 2000. Sec vs Pac-12 reg season games record: pac-12 12-11. If that number was something like SEC 20-3 i wouldn't even put up an argument. But since Pac-12 have a slight lead over such a "dominant" conference it sure tells me a different story. Maybe you should pay attention to college football not just SEC football. Oh and btw i love how you brought up the point about Oregon avgs vs pac-12 teams but couldn't move it against Auburn. But you forgot to leave out the fact that Auburn avg. 42.5 pts a game vs the SEC but could only manage to put up 22 pts vs a Oregon team that plays in a conference that plays no defense. gotta love SEC homers.
I don't go around advertising sec as the best conference like you do with pac-12. I'm not gonna look up every single sec vs pac-12 games since 2000 (why even go that far?), but I wouldn't be surprised if half of those wins came from middle of the pack to bottom tier sec teams. I'm specifically talking Oregon under Chip Kelly vs top sec teams. His gimmick of spread offense or no huddle offense or whatever they call that doesn't work against top sec teams. In fact lets look at how Oregon fared against top non-conference opponents under Chip Kelly. Boise State = Lost, Ohio State = Lost, Auburn = Lost, LSU = Lost, Wisconsin = Win. They're just like Oklahoma, running up the scores to pad the stats and wow people like you, but barely show up when it matters the most.
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On November 12 2012 11:29 Ferrose wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 11:23 Damiani wrote:On November 12 2012 10:28 don_kyuhote wrote:On November 12 2012 10:17 Signet wrote:On November 12 2012 08:30 cLutZ wrote: Also, who hasn't been hoping for Oregon to FINALLY get to face an elite SEC team with something real on the line? Oh wait, everybody has been wanting to see that for 5 years. Oregon vs Auburn was the national championship game 2 years ago Oregon vs LSU last season, pretty important game too. Both of those games, Oregon fails to get over 100 yard rushing. Not to mention they lost both. Whats going on? They rush for 200+ easy against their fellow pac-12 powerhouse Stanford and USC don't they? + Show Spoiler + 2010 vs Stanford = 388 vs USC = 311 vs Auburn = 75
2011 vs Stanford = 232 vs USC = 209 vs LSU = 95
Ya since 2000. Sec vs Pac-12 reg season games record: pac-12 12-11. If that number was something like SEC 20-3 i wouldn't even put up an argument. But since Pac-12 have a slight lead over such a "dominant" conference it sure tells me a different story. Maybe you should pay attention to college football not just SEC football. Oh and btw i love how you brought up the point about Oregon avgs vs pac-12 teams but couldn't move it against Auburn. But you forgot to leave out the fact that Auburn avg. 42.5 pts a game vs the SEC but could only manage to put up 22 pts vs a Oregon team that plays in a conference that plays no defense. gotta love SEC homers. And since the SEC started their dominance in 2006, the SEC is 8-5 against the Pac-12. :x Ya i'll give you that but is 8-5 (7-5 if counting regular season games ) really a dominating stats? The way you guys praise the SEC and look down on the Pac-12 shouldn't the numbers be more like 10-3 or 11-2? And of the 12 games played 8 of them were played in either SEC backyard or at home.
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On November 12 2012 11:38 don_kyuhote wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 11:23 Damiani wrote: Ya since 2000. Sec vs Pac-12 reg season games record: pac-12 12-11. If that number was something like SEC 20-3 i wouldn't even put up an argument. But since Pac-12 have a slight lead over such a "dominant" conference it sure tells me a different story. Maybe you should pay attention to college football not just SEC football. Oh and btw i love how you brought up the point about Oregon avgs vs pac-12 teams but couldn't move it against Auburn. But you forgot to leave out the fact that Auburn avg. 42.5 pts a game vs the SEC but could only manage to put up 22 pts vs a Oregon team that plays in a conference that plays no defense. gotta love SEC homers.
I don't go around advertising sec as the best conference like you do with pac-12. I'm not gonna look up every single sec vs pac-12 games since 2000 (why even go that far?), but I wouldn't be surprised if half of those wins came from middle of the pack to bottom tier sec teams. I'm specifically talking Oregon under Chip Kelly vs top sec teams. His gimmick of spread offense or no huddle offense or whatever they call that doesn't work against top sec teams. In fact lets look at how Oregon fared against top non-conference opponents under Chip Kelly. Boise State = Lost, Ohio State = Lost, Auburn = Lost, LSU = Lost, Wisconsin = Win. They're just like Oklahoma, running up the scores to pad the stats and wow people like you, but barely show up when it matters the most.
Are you serious? I guess you only read what you wanna hear rather than what people actually types.
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Just on top of my head, I can remember half of those pac-12 wins coming from Tennessee. And the only one that matters is Cal's 2007 win at home when Tennessee went I believe 9-3. Tennessee hasn't been a top sec team by any stretch of imagination.
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On November 12 2012 11:50 don_kyuhote wrote: Just on top of my head, I can remember half of those pac-12 wins came from Tennessee. And the only one that matters is Cal's 2007 win at home when Tennessee went I believe 9-3. Tennessee hasn't been a top sec team by any stretch of imagination. Lol. I love your posts. They're so misleading. You'll do well if you wanna brain wash people who's new to the college football scene. First you bring up the stats on Oregon about how poorly they performed vs Auburn but left out how poorly Auburn performed against Oregon. Now you wanna make it seem like the Pac-12 can only beat SEC bottom feeder and you hesitate mention the Pac-12 teams the SEC beat. This is almost the same scenario as 2000 when #3 Bama came out to UCLA. Nobody gave Ucla a chance. Why? oh maybe because bama was in the "SEC" and UCLA was in the "pac-12". Or maybe because Bama was so hyped up being ranked #3 at the time and UCLA couldn't beat anyone in the Pac-12.Well guess what the final score was? Ucla 35 bama 24.oh wait Ucla won because they played @ Ucla right? Okay well the following year Ucla went to Alabama and guess what? Ucla won again 20-17. Bama hasn't booked a home for home game vs a pac-12 team since. And i really don't blame them. Edit: what about 2006 when USC smashed Arkansas. they finished 7-1 in the SEC west and 10-3 overall.
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I hesitate to mention the pac-12 teams that sec beat? lol The only one I can think of in the recent past (yes I said recent past, NOT 2000) that matter is Oregon. Yes the same Oregon that you think very highly of. I didn't mention the other ones the because they were middle of the pack to bottom tier pac 12 teams like Washington or Arizona State, so I omitted them. You are the one arguing for conference supremcy based on head to head record. Auburn performed poorly? Sure, scoring wise, but they won. And they had 50/50 pass/rush whereas Oregon got its run shut off. They had trouble scoring, but they didn't have problem moving the football. I'm not even sure if we're arguing over the same thing lol. I'm saying the best team in sec is better than the best team in pac-12. You're arguing pac-12 is better than sec. I don't doubt that USC was very good up to 2008.
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You honestly think Florida,Bama,LSu or Georgia can beat USC or Oregon this year? Seriously?
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Alabama, LSU, certainly Florida, Georgia, toss-up.
I still think West is better than East in the SEC
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On November 12 2012 12:41 Damiani wrote: You honestly think Florida,Bama,LSu or Georgia can beat USC or Oregon this year? Seriously?
USC? Really? The team with like a cumulative 25 scholarships missing?
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On November 12 2012 12:45 cLutZ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 12:41 Damiani wrote: You honestly think Florida,Bama,LSu or Georgia can beat USC or Oregon this year? Seriously? USC? Really? The team with like a cumulative 25 scholarships missing? dont forget their non-existent defense
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Or their questionable offense.
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On November 12 2012 13:09 Insomniac22 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 12 2012 12:45 cLutZ wrote:On November 12 2012 12:41 Damiani wrote: You honestly think Florida,Bama,LSu or Georgia can beat USC or Oregon this year? Seriously? USC? Really? The team with like a cumulative 25 scholarships missing? dont forget their non-existent defense
Well from what I ve seen by watching some SEC games this year, you dont need much of defense to stop them. Pete Carroll used to always laugh and point out in his interviews that no SEC was willing to play them, even when USC was willing to come to their house. Arkansas made that mistake ones they were ranked 5 or 6 and USC wasn't even top 20 end result was a blow out by more than 40 points courtesy of John David Booty, USC's worst QB probably ever.
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Even though they only like 8 points between two polls, Washington actually was ranked in the BCS standings lol
Their average computer ranking is 19th
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On November 12 2012 12:44 don_kyuhote wrote: Alabama, LSU, certainly Florida, Georgia, toss-up.
I still think West is better than East in the SEC
The same Florida that luckily won a game due to a biffed last minute punt against a UL-Lafayette? LOL. Geez. At least try to have some objectivity.
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