On December 11 2012 01:58 Maxyim wrote:
I think that we can employ some common sense toward the situation. If there is only one "good" move and some idiot posts computer analysis that includes it, he clearly needs to be evicted from the team and banned from the thread / Quick Topic, if possible, but his team should not be automatically forced into a terrible position on his account (particularly if people were discussing the move before the cheater weighed in). If there are multiple moves, then clearly we would close off the path generated by computer analysis, but I would suggest that we allow the team to continue voting on the alternate move.
I'm open to suggestions about how to conduct the game, and if there's some sort of general consensus about what to do in situations like this, I'm happy to go with it, but I did my best to take a sensible approach. A few points:I think that we can employ some common sense toward the situation. If there is only one "good" move and some idiot posts computer analysis that includes it, he clearly needs to be evicted from the team and banned from the thread / Quick Topic, if possible, but his team should not be automatically forced into a terrible position on his account (particularly if people were discussing the move before the cheater weighed in). If there are multiple moves, then clearly we would close off the path generated by computer analysis, but I would suggest that we allow the team to continue voting on the alternate move.
1) This is not a clearly terrible position, as compared with the one after 19...d4; it's not as though it blunders material. It's not even as though it's never been tried by high-level players. You may think that 19...Qxe7 is a much worse move than 19...d4, but saying that 19...d4 is the only "good" move and all others lead to "a terrible position" is just your unsupported opinion, which not everyone shares. To wit:
2) Black wasn't forced into it by the posted analysis, but by that along with the fact that before the analysis was posted, it was the most voted-for move. It's certainly quite possible that the vote would have swung to 19...d4 anyway, but it's also quite possible that it was the computer's analysis that swung the vote. Without any way to determine that, I think it's cleaner to count only votes that were not influenced by the analysis.
3) Even assuming that the played move is worse than the move Black would have played had the vote continued normally, it's unfortunate that a whole team has to suffer for the mistake of a single member, but the alternative is to let it benefit from it, and I think that's even worse.
4) It wasn't "some idiot" who posted analysis, it was a guy who'd been an actively contributing member of the team. Just as his past analysis has benefited the team, his recent mistake may have hurt them. That's how it goes.
Anyway, I think there's still plenty of play left in this game. I'm looking forward to seeing how this endgame is played out.