A lot of characters also have conversation-less support bonuses (e.g. Alm is supported by all 3 male villagers but no conversations with any of them). The conversation-based bonuses tend to be a lot larger since you have to put work into unlocking them.
I would go so far as to say this might actually be the best iteration of the support mechanic in the series.
EDIT: Famitsu review out for Echoes. Scored 1 point higher than Awakening/Fates. Not that it means anything lol--I don't put much stock in Famitsu's opinion of FE games when Genealogy and Radiant Dawn are the 2 lowest-scoring titles since the SNES era.
On April 12 2017 04:47 sharkie wrote: Convo unlock is based on number of turns like in the gba fire emblem?
It's based on actions performed. Doing combat (or relevant non-combat actions) within 3 spaces of an eligible allied unit gives you support points with that unit.
In practice I found that it worked brilliantly, it's far less tedious to proc than GBA supports, and like Yango mentioned there are none conversation supports. The bonuses alm gets on the final map from the villagers + Celica is insane.
Another thing they did to flesh out the story was have these memory fragments. In forts/castles and some mila shrines you will notice this sparkling patches, if you pick them up, you can go to world map, open mila gear and view memory. There's of course the big obvious one you get after Alm completes chapter 4, as well as a few other random ones.
My only real complaint is that I wish there were more +Hitrate supports and less +Crit/Crit Evade supports. The crit evade ones in particular are almost ignorable.
Although Faye->Alm being an "ignorable" crit evade support is a kind of fitting, if somewhat sad, piece of gameplay/story integration. Especially in contrast with the rather...unique support bonuses Faye gets in return.
So apparently the new seals for the S slot can only be obtained through special quests that they have yet to release. And if you happen to get multiple of the same it just turns into feathers...hmm thats werid cause lets say they introduced a quest for speed +1 , so you beat the mission and get it can you put it on only one hero and its gone forever or can u move it around? Also having no duplicates means either u have to use them straight away as you get them or you can only have one of them per hero at any time with it being transferable
On April 12 2017 07:08 TheYango wrote: My only real complaint is that I wish there were more +Hitrate supports and less +Crit/Crit Evade supports. The crit evade ones in particular are almost ignorable.
Although Faye->Alm being an "ignorable" crit evade support is a kind of fitting, if somewhat sad, piece of gameplay/story integration. Especially in contrast with the rather...unique support bonuses Faye gets in return.
On April 12 2017 07:08 TheYango wrote: My only real complaint is that I wish there were more +Hitrate supports and less +Crit/Crit Evade supports. The crit evade ones in particular are almost ignorable.
Although Faye->Alm being an "ignorable" crit evade support is a kind of fitting, if somewhat sad, piece of gameplay/story integration. Especially in contrast with the rather...unique support bonuses Faye gets in return.
I mean, that's kind of a disservice to Catria, lol. I'm personally in the camp of people who think Faye was made to be kind of a bitch and intentionally unlikeable as a foil to the other characters in Alm's party.
I think she works well as a foil to Clair, who gets a lot more interesting development in SoV than in OG Gaiden.
On April 12 2017 07:08 TheYango wrote: My only real complaint is that I wish there were more +Hitrate supports and less +Crit/Crit Evade supports. The crit evade ones in particular are almost ignorable.
Although Faye->Alm being an "ignorable" crit evade support is a kind of fitting, if somewhat sad, piece of gameplay/story integration. Especially in contrast with the rather...unique support bonuses Faye gets in return.
I mean, that's kind of a disservice to Catria, lol. I'm personally in the camp of people who think Faye was made to be kind of a bitch and intentionally unlikeable as a foil to the other characters in Alm's party.
I think she works well as a foil to Clair, who gets a lot more interesting development in SoV than in OG Gaiden.
So that's what's nice about getting an official English version. I have a rough understanding of what's going on in terms on Faye's Alm support and what not, but'll be nice to see it all in English.
On April 12 2017 12:48 Shock710 wrote: So apparently the new seals for the S slot can only be obtained through special quests that they have yet to release. And if you happen to get multiple of the same it just turns into feathers...hmm thats werid cause lets say they introduced a quest for speed +1 , so you beat the mission and get it can you put it on only one hero and its gone forever or can u move it around? Also having no duplicates means either u have to use them straight away as you get them or you can only have one of them per hero at any time with it being transferable
I just got the first one from todays quests. You can equip them on a hero then switch them to another. Just can only have it equipped on one hero.
Do your arena matches tend to get more difficult as your win streak improves? I'm at a record and feel like I've had lucky/favorable matchups until now so I'm thinking about just sitting out until it resets. Does that make sense?
On April 14 2017 11:25 calgar wrote: Do your arena matches tend to get more difficult as your win streak improves? I'm at a record and feel like I've had lucky/favorable matchups until now so I'm thinking about just sitting out until it resets. Does that make sense?
It doesnt say that anywhere but i have definitely felt what you mean, sometimes the first 6 are a breeze but on the very last run i bump into a team that i get absolutely crushed by. It might just be luck tho as my most recent run was pretty easy with two blues vs my pimped out nino lol.
I have felt like that before, but I think it's just bias in perception. Especially because if you are losing arena matches occasionally you will play more early matches than later ones. So far I haven't necessarily seen a definitive bump in what I ace and will still see generic off the shelf heroes as far as round 7.
In that vein I had my first deathless run for 4726 which felt pretty good.
I'm still running Cordelia with Death Blow & Drag back + Hinoka with Draw back as the crux of my team and using a Julia as ranged support. Last spot is just arena bonus time (Palla currently).
Draw back and Drag back are very powerful arena abilities, highly recommend fitting them in your team where it makes sense.
trying to figure out how the new system works exactly before i rework my team, managed to save up 80 orbs and 40k~ feathers, so i should be fine just gotta do some theorycrafting
On April 15 2017 06:21 Varanice wrote: trying to figure out how the new system works exactly before i rework my team, managed to save up 80 orbs and 40k~ feathers, so i should be fine just gotta do some theorycrafting
The extent of my theorycrafting is:
I have 44k feathers and the next arena season will have a new lineup of bonus heroes, so I'll wait until I know what those are and if I don't have any bonus heroes at 5* I'll make one.