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On December 14 2016 05:32 ICanFlyLow wrote: Blizzard dont make quality games anymore who cares, they've completely changed their buisness model from making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons to getting ppl hooked on meaningless crap thats overmarketed to make quick bucks Feel.free to make a thread speculating about the worthy company's upcoming games, the company you feel makes quality games and have the business model of making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons.
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On December 14 2016 08:10 lestye wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 05:32 ICanFlyLow wrote: Blizzard dont make quality games anymore who cares, they've completely changed their buisness model from making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons to getting ppl hooked on meaningless crap thats overmarketed to make quick bucks Feel.free to make a thread speculating about the worthy company's upcoming games, the company you feel makes quality games and have the business model of making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons. Shh.. its not like Blizzard created 4 great franchises spanning decades. Of course they make shit games, they've been around for so long they made 4 shit franchises that have garnered billions of revenue.
/sarcasm
I agree, so many here want to trash on Blizz, but their track record has been great and isn't getting worse.
With Overwatch under their belts, they stand to rule the esports scene or at least have a huge presence. Even Storm has quite a lot of players. Not 20 million, but in the millions I would estimate.
So if ICanFlyLow honestly thinks Blizz doesn't care, I would challenge him that they care a lot. In every game they make they care. And if they can't care for it, they will not release it. Look at Titan
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On December 11 2016 02:36 Harris1st wrote: I hope for a First person Diablo 4 (Dark Souls style) or a Third person Diablo MMO
Good joke, Blizzard has forgotten how to make dark atmospheric games, now a days its all bright and and cheerful and shallow.
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On December 16 2016 01:50 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 02:36 Harris1st wrote: I hope for a First person Diablo 4 (Dark Souls style) or a Third person Diablo MMO Good joke, Blizzard has forgotten how to make dark atmospheric games, now a days its all bright and and cheerful and shallow.
A man needs his dreams
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On December 16 2016 01:50 Destructicon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2016 02:36 Harris1st wrote: I hope for a First person Diablo 4 (Dark Souls style) or a Third person Diablo MMO Good joke, Blizzard has forgotten how to make dark atmospheric games, now a days its all bright and and cheerful and shallow. The majority of Blizzard's work is actually bright and cheerful. They have a very brief time-frame of gritty dark work (fittingly during the 90's, where that was all the rage) aided by a lack of graphic processing that necessitated darker environments and "dirty" textures.
And this is nestled right between the warm, cozy 2D cartoon sprites of the SNES era (with the likes of Lost Vikings and R&R Racing) and the bright and cheerful 3D polygons of Warcraft III and WoW. (Which is also ignoring how much brighter and colourful Warcraft II is than I)
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I feel it's overkill to redirect 3 (THREE!!) game directors just to make a Diablo Mobile game or sth along those line
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On December 17 2016 17:26 Harris1st wrote: I feel it's overkill to redirect 3 (THREE!!) game directors just to make a Diablo Mobile game or sth along those line apparently it's an fps
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Maybe a thief project style game based on the warcraft universe.
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On December 17 2016 17:28 -NegativeZero- wrote:Show nested quote +On December 17 2016 17:26 Harris1st wrote: I feel it's overkill to redirect 3 (THREE!!) game directors just to make a Diablo Mobile game or sth along those line apparently it's an fps
Source?
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On December 14 2016 10:10 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 08:10 lestye wrote:On December 14 2016 05:32 ICanFlyLow wrote: Blizzard dont make quality games anymore who cares, they've completely changed their buisness model from making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons to getting ppl hooked on meaningless crap thats overmarketed to make quick bucks Feel.free to make a thread speculating about the worthy company's upcoming games, the company you feel makes quality games and have the business model of making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons. Shh.. its not like Blizzard created 4 great franchises spanning decades. Of course they make shit games, they've been around for so long they made 4 shit franchises that have garnered billions of revenue. /sarcasm I agree, so many here want to trash on Blizz, but their track record has been great and isn't getting worse. With Overwatch under their belts, they stand to rule the esports scene or at least have a huge presence. Even Storm has quite a lot of players. Not 20 million, but in the millions I would estimate. So if ICanFlyLow honestly thinks Blizz doesn't care, I would challenge him that they care a lot. In every game they make they care. And if they can't care for it, they will not release it. Look at Titan
Sc2 is disillusioning. Diablo 3 was a disaster at launch. WoW has been leaking subscribers steadily, maybe legion has finally managed to swing this around? Heroes of the storm has less than 1/10th the amount of viewers of LOL or DOTA and that's on a good day. HOTS had a rather abysmally small player base, maybe it's growing though lately?
Hearthstone can be considered a success in terms of people that play it, doesn't necessarily means it's a good game. After all, millions of people play candy crush and angry birds and I don't consider those good games.
Overwatch is really bland in my opinion. Let's see how successful of an eSport it becomes.
Compare this to the quality and legacies of starcraft brood war, warcraft 3 the frozen throne, and vanilla wow etc. I know which Blizzard I would choose to develop my next game.
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On December 17 2016 23:04 B-royal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 10:10 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On December 14 2016 08:10 lestye wrote:On December 14 2016 05:32 ICanFlyLow wrote: Blizzard dont make quality games anymore who cares, they've completely changed their buisness model from making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons to getting ppl hooked on meaningless crap thats overmarketed to make quick bucks Feel.free to make a thread speculating about the worthy company's upcoming games, the company you feel makes quality games and have the business model of making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons. Shh.. its not like Blizzard created 4 great franchises spanning decades. Of course they make shit games, they've been around for so long they made 4 shit franchises that have garnered billions of revenue. /sarcasm I agree, so many here want to trash on Blizz, but their track record has been great and isn't getting worse. With Overwatch under their belts, they stand to rule the esports scene or at least have a huge presence. Even Storm has quite a lot of players. Not 20 million, but in the millions I would estimate. So if ICanFlyLow honestly thinks Blizz doesn't care, I would challenge him that they care a lot. In every game they make they care. And if they can't care for it, they will not release it. Look at Titan Sc2 is disillusioning. Diablo 3 was a disaster at launch. WoW has been leaking subscribers steadily, maybe legion has finally managed to swing this around? Heroes of the storm has less than 1/10th the amount of viewers of LOL or DOTA and that's on a good day. HOTS had a rather abysmally small player base, maybe it's growing though lately? Hearthstone can be considered a success in terms of people that play it, doesn't necessarily means it's a good game. After all, millions of people play candy crush and angry birds and I don't consider those good games. Overwatch is really bland in my opinion. Let's see how successful of an eSport it becomes. Compare this to the quality and legacies of starcraft brood war, warcraft 3 the frozen throne, and vanilla wow etc. I know which Blizzard I would choose to develop my next game.
Overwatch is hard to watch. Even worse than CS:GO due to its constant action. You have 4 people dying in 3 seconds and then again in 30 seconds. You can't capture that on camera with first person view. They need to tell stories with their chosen viewpoint more than follow the overall game due to that I think.
CS:GO has the advantage that it usually have long slow periods where you can realise what is happening and what should happen next. In Overwatch something is always happening and thus the constantly changing viewpoints make it jarring.
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On December 17 2016 23:04 B-royal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2016 10:10 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:On December 14 2016 08:10 lestye wrote:On December 14 2016 05:32 ICanFlyLow wrote: Blizzard dont make quality games anymore who cares, they've completely changed their buisness model from making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons to getting ppl hooked on meaningless crap thats overmarketed to make quick bucks Feel.free to make a thread speculating about the worthy company's upcoming games, the company you feel makes quality games and have the business model of making quality games that are addictive and enjoyable for all the right reasons. Shh.. its not like Blizzard created 4 great franchises spanning decades. Of course they make shit games, they've been around for so long they made 4 shit franchises that have garnered billions of revenue. /sarcasm I agree, so many here want to trash on Blizz, but their track record has been great and isn't getting worse. With Overwatch under their belts, they stand to rule the esports scene or at least have a huge presence. Even Storm has quite a lot of players. Not 20 million, but in the millions I would estimate. So if ICanFlyLow honestly thinks Blizz doesn't care, I would challenge him that they care a lot. In every game they make they care. And if they can't care for it, they will not release it. Look at Titan Sc2 is disillusioning. Diablo 3 was a disaster at launch. WoW has been leaking subscribers steadily, maybe legion has finally managed to swing this around? Heroes of the storm has less than 1/10th the amount of viewers of LOL or DOTA and that's on a good day. HOTS had a rather abysmally small player base, maybe it's growing though lately? Hearthstone can be considered a success in terms of people that play it, doesn't necessarily means it's a good game. After all, millions of people play candy crush and angry birds and I don't consider those good games. Overwatch is really bland in my opinion. Let's see how successful of an eSport it becomes. Compare this to the quality and legacies of starcraft brood war, warcraft 3 the frozen throne, and vanilla wow etc. I know which Blizzard I would choose to develop my next game. What studios DO you like? What studios are you going to be interested in their next big game? What studios do you think make the best multiplayer games since apparently Blizzard is terrible and can't outdo the best games of all time so they belong in the trash.
Also Is your argument really that # of viewers dictate the quality of game it is? I guarantee you, the top of Twitch is not going to reflect anyone's favorite games of all time.
While maybe if I don't think the games are as amazing as the games they released in 1998-2004, they're still amazing games. and they're the most likely company to make a game I'll really enjoy. Most people probably feel this way hence this thread. Unless you want to argue how you think Sega/Capcom/Gearbox/iD/Epic make way better games and we're just fanboys.
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The question is, what's the next big 'hit' genre? Because that's what they are aiming for. They've done this with their previous 3 games (HS - card game market, HotS moba market, OW - whatever shooter market). Or a sequel, but that's unlikely, at least certainly won't be Diablo or Starcraft.
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On December 18 2016 04:09 valaki wrote: The question is, what's the next big 'hit' genre? Because that's what they are aiming for. They've done this with their previous 3 games (HS - card game market, HotS moba market, OW - whatever shooter market). Or a sequel, but that's unlikely, at least certainly won't be Diablo or Starcraft. Why wouldnt it Diablo? Diablo is the most likely, although its highly doubtful its the ONLY thing in the pipeline.
A genre they haven't really touched on would be fighting games, i think Riot Games is currently making one.
Other than that, FPS & RPGs are always going to be lucrative.
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the next big hit genre ... That could be something VR. There they would just have to make a game where you don't have to puke. But VR availability is still to low for Blizzards taste I think.
Or a space sim. No one will try anything there after no mans sky for some time, so Blizzard would have no big competition. Which is their thing.
Oh coop platformer could be something as well. Vikings 3D ! But platformers are popular right now, so they might be late to the party.
Anything roundbased would probably not work with Blizzard 20 minutes limit.
Diablo announced the addition of seasonal dungeons, so Diablo is super unlikely. Unless there will be just one seasonal dungeon every year for one month lol.
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On December 18 2016 04:26 FeyFey wrote: Diablo announced the addition of seasonal dungeons, so Diablo is super unlikely. Unless there will be just one seasonal dungeon every year for one month lol. Are you talking about Challenge Rifts? Cause those will be on like a weekly basis. It's just more things to do to prevent people from getting bored so quickly after the season starts.
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meant the d1 thingie, which will be there every january or so. I really didn't pay alot of attention to the d3 pannel though. But Necromancer dlc, also indicates that they aren't done with d3. We can guess alot ... but we won't see anything till next Blizzcon. So this thread will not get to much furhter a year.
I like being a Blizzard fangirl. It gets really funny when people try to hate on Blizzard.
"Blizzard games have been bad, at some point ... before they fixed that for free" , "Blizzard games aren't first spot in everything, everywhere !" "Wow was bleeding subscribers and died after everyone came back for big expansion. Atleast until Legion where Blizzard decided to bind subscribers for all eternity to them without breaks" (I miss my WoW friends, no more breaks for em) "Heroes wasn't number 1 from the start and is only slowly climbing the Moba Ladder and Dota2 only" "Blizzard puts evil microtransactions in B2P games, because the fans demand those." (I dont get that though, farming in Blizzard games is so fast)
Valve fans have it a bit tougher, since there is always this "lets talk steam" topic heh. Still hope Steam can hold against Microsoft. Still can understand why people like Valve or EA for the things they do. I probably would like EA if i had the money for it.
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I don't think it's vr, they have always been about releasing games that most of everyone can play including old hardware.
Since they have just released overwatch, I don't think its a massive big game but a spin off or a cheap to develope game like hearthstone. IMO overwatch is more likely because they definitely need more ways to bring in plots and backgrounds. Comics and animations are just not a profitable way to expans.
I am thinking an overwatch or another Warcraft spin off. Diablo franchise is a possibility but I think they are going to play safe for a while. They need something bigger done for the franchise.
All these of cause is assuming they are developing a game from sketch right now and releasing soon. Might be that we are going to see the game in ten years and it's Warcraft 4 :p
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WHAT ABOUT WARCRAFT 4!!!! this game is a mandatory 1 week work free I am not looking for anything revolutionary just WC4 !!!!!
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