Twistz god :o So close to the ace GG very comfortable and strong showing from Liquid :D Shocking from NaVi, they are not even deserving of invites at this current state.
Yeah no idea why anyone thinks a BO1 swiss system is any use. BO3 maybe i can agree but a bo1 version in any ESport is a huge lottery. Oh well, nothing we can do now Ok Fer warmed up! The bears getting Plowed xD
Wow VP are looking so bad , they are going to crush and burn once Major comes around , i think they will change players almost 100% , they can't go on like that.
On July 05 2017 19:59 Pandemona wrote: Yeah NaVi and VP look likely to shuffle a bit after the major if they bring this form to it. That said, how can you count them out eh.
Oh but you can.
VP have never look this bad before a major. And there's already been occurrences where they were a game away from not making the groups.
Oh right ok then maybe it is the end of VP, but where do you start there. Is there anyone you keep and build around, they are all pretty old like. NaVi to me just need Zeus back instead of Guardian and start from there.
Anyway on todays games, lets get Liquid top seed and Sk back into high matches please :D
VP Didn't manage to watch the game vs Heroic but the matches before where they lost and didn’t look convincing. I know they usually are a rollercoaster, even dating back to 1.6 when it comes to Neo, Taz and Pasha, but at the moment the down seems a bit long and whenever that happens I start to fear their orga gets fed up and it will be the end of the golden 5 v2.0. I don't want the only team I am biased rooting for break up / vanish. Even though the whole old guard seems to be a bit lackluster atm. Every team seems very mortal right now.
EDIT: just checking results, WTF happened to G2. Havent watched them a lot and already knew that they seemed to be way over hyped, but 6:16 vs NiP? NiP?
On July 05 2017 20:59 waffelz wrote: VP Didn't manage to watch the game vs Heroic but the matches before where they lost and didn’t look convincing. I know they usually are a rollercoaster, even dating back to 1.6 when it comes to Neo, Taz and Pasha, but at the moment the down seems a bit long and whenever that happens I start to fear their orga gets fed up and it will be the end of the golden 5 v2.0. I don't want the only team I am biased rooting for break up / vanish. Even though the whole old guard seems to be a bit lackluster atm. Every team seems very mortal right now.
EDIT: just checking results, WTF happened to G2. Havent watched them a lot and already knew that they seemed to be way over hyped, but 6:16 vs NiP? NiP?
tbht they were like that for most of 2015 also. Then went a stacked ESL (IEM?) Dubai.
On July 05 2017 22:06 Rebs wrote: tbht they were like that for most of 2015 also. Then went a stacked ESL (IEM?) Dubai.
Ups and downs sure, but currently they seem weaker than ever before, probably due to the general skill being higher now. And while I believe/hope they will catch up, my fear always is with their orga having the same patience.
On July 05 2017 22:06 Rebs wrote: tbht they were like that for most of 2015 also. Then went a stacked ESL (IEM?) Dubai.
Ups and downs sure, but currently they seem weaker than ever before, probably due to the general skill being higher now. And while I believe/hope they will catch up, my fear always is with their orga having the same patience.
They have signed like suuuper long contracts with VP though. They have to tank quite a bit till the org finds it viable to try and break them. But yeah as much as they have always been like this its hard to shake the "is this finally it?" feeling.
Ok that was nice from Cold and Felps on B site defending. Double perfect flashes as they knew exactly what was coming. Come on SK lets get back to the high matches! GG comfortable win!
On July 05 2017 22:06 Rebs wrote: tbht they were like that for most of 2015 also. Then went a stacked ESL (IEM?) Dubai.
Ups and downs sure, but currently they seem weaker than ever before, probably due to the general skill being higher now. And while I believe/hope they will catch up, my fear always is with their orga having the same patience.
They have signed like suuuper long contracts with VP though. They have to tank quite a bit till the org finds it viable to try and break them. But yeah as much as they have always been like this its hard to shake the "is this finally it?" feeling.
I guess as long as they make it to the majors and can sell millions of stickers, they are good in terms of their org. We will see how it goes next week, maybe they wanted to pull an Astralis but the Org told em to go to Cologne so they just didnt care like their online games. We gonna find out next week.
On July 05 2017 22:06 Rebs wrote: tbht they were like that for most of 2015 also. Then went a stacked ESL (IEM?) Dubai.
Ups and downs sure, but currently they seem weaker than ever before, probably due to the general skill being higher now. And while I believe/hope they will catch up, my fear always is with their orga having the same patience.
They have signed like suuuper long contracts with VP though. They have to tank quite a bit till the org finds it viable to try and break them. But yeah as much as they have always been like this its hard to shake the "is this finally it?" feeling.
I guess as long as they make it to the majors and can sell millions of stickers, they are good in terms of their org. We will see how it goes next week, maybe they wanted to pull an Astralis but the Org told em to go to Cologne so they just didnt care like their online games. We gonna find out next week.
Im very confident they sell the most stickers. its literally the only team that no matter what lan I notice they have solid support.
I dont think they are ok with doing poorly at major lans . At lan its not a lack of care thing. They just are not playing very well. And its not even like its a lack of strats or poor execution they are just getting out dueled from favorable spots which is quite concerning.
Looking much better when S1mple, flamie, and Guardian are on point. This was truly scary. I don't remember being that impressed with flamie in a long time...
Felps is 2nd awping on inferno as CT, hmmm cold really isn't in form is he xd Fallen playing extremely well, should be 8-7 even half though, oh maybe not G2 just derped and will be 9-6
So, can someone tell me how NiP managed to get Cache all three maps? It's ban to 1 map, right? So why didn't someone just ban it to see if they can play anything else right now...?
On July 07 2017 10:46 Crusnik wrote: So, can someone tell me how NiP managed to get Cache all three maps? It's ban to 1 map, right? So why didn't someone just ban it to see if they can play anything else right now...?
Because they have been really abysmal recently and all of the teams that played them fancy themselves on Cache aswell. It was simply a case of them being underestimated imo.
On July 07 2017 16:34 Pandemona wrote: Top seed > draw faze in a bo3 first round. Unlucky Liquid, but i believe! SK get Optic a great draw for them though!
Considering they could have drawn C9, it is really unlucky. Then again, the could also have gotten SK...
Yeah i guess SK and Faze were the teams to avoid but it such a shame for top seeds Oh well we have to believe. Give me that SK vs Liquid semi final and i'll be so hyped :D
On July 07 2017 23:21 Epoxide wrote: Yeah NiP look exactly like they did before the move
Their rushes with rifles looks exactly the same. Yolo to a site, then hope to get lucky with kills. No fundamentals for it, just random grenades and go for it~~
Faze looks like shit. But they don't have to fear anything considering they can just forcebuy one round which will as usual destroy TL Such a classic TL game
On July 08 2017 00:45 TheNewEra wrote: Faze looks like shit. But they don't have to fear anything considering they can just forcebuy one round which will as usual destroy TL Such a classic TL game
FaZe looking shit still means they're a top 10 team instead of a top 3.
I'm concerned about Liquid playing so scared.... You have the fucking talent, go grab them by the throat...
thats pretty weird 1v2 from cold, there was bound to be weapons lying around, not sure its worth it to go for 2 awps on the retake, they had enough time to change both weapons
NA vs SA in the finals haha awesome! Rain was weird man, he was a bot on the first map he nearly went 0-0-7 (went 1-0-7 in the end) then second half he was the only reason Faze were competing it felt lol
Good luck c9. COLDZERA IS BACK!!!!!! WHAT THE HELL It his over? Can you stop Cold when he is in this mode? He is unkillable right now! 15K 1D after 7 rounds xD
and Astralis, Faze, heck a slightly improved C9 or Na'vi. Doesnt take much to lose these days.
Still, SK hasn't lost a Bo3 to Astralis & FaZe since mid-december last year. As for C9, they're clearly not on their level as showcased by this Bo5. Nor is Na'Vi.
Astralis and FaZe are definitely good teams, and C9 & Na'Vi are okay, but not on this level right now.
And yeah pande what the fuck, are you SK's chief shill?
Maybe, i want an esport job, EG or SK will find me one day :D
SK results just insane lately, however was a quote saying Fallen beginning to feel burnt out, so maybe they will take a break or relax a bit more after this major idk.
On July 10 2017 19:17 Pandemona wrote: Maybe, i want an esport job, EG or SK will find me one day :D
SK results just insane lately, however was a quote saying Fallen beginning to feel burnt out, so maybe they will take a break or relax a bit more after this major idk.
All that i've seen is him saying his ultimate goal was to also win this major. Then probably he'll get some rest.
and Astralis, Faze, heck a slightly improved C9 or Na'vi. Doesnt take much to lose these days.
Still, SK hasn't lost a Bo3 to Astralis & FaZe since mid-december last year. As for C9, they're clearly not on their level as showcased by this Bo5. Nor is Na'Vi.
Astralis and FaZe are definitely good teams, and C9 & Na'Vi are okay, but not on this level right now.
And yeah pande what the fuck, are you SK's chief shill?
Listing G2 as possible to stop them but ignoring Astralis and Faze. I thought I was the one who was nationality biased
and Astralis, Faze, heck a slightly improved C9 or Na'vi. Doesnt take much to lose these days.
Still, SK hasn't lost a Bo3 to Astralis & FaZe since mid-december last year. As for C9, they're clearly not on their level as showcased by this Bo5. Nor is Na'Vi.
Astralis and FaZe are definitely good teams, and C9 & Na'Vi are okay, but not on this level right now.
And yeah pande what the fuck, are you SK's chief shill?
Listing G2 as possible to stop them but ignoring Astralis and Faze. I thought I was the one who was nationality biased
Yeah they beat them again here in bo1 at IEM too. KennyS went off on one on Overpass but the last bo3 they lost was to G2, since then they have not lost a bo3 since February to VP when they were good in Vegas.
and Astralis, Faze, heck a slightly improved C9 or Na'vi. Doesnt take much to lose these days.
Still, SK hasn't lost a Bo3 to Astralis & FaZe since mid-december last year. As for C9, they're clearly not on their level as showcased by this Bo5. Nor is Na'Vi.
Astralis and FaZe are definitely good teams, and C9 & Na'Vi are okay, but not on this level right now.
And yeah pande what the fuck, are you SK's chief shill?
Listing G2 as possible to stop them but ignoring Astralis and Faze. I thought I was the one who was nationality biased
You still are :p.
I think it was a rather obvious comment considering the recent head to head record. Not sure what Ragnarok being a baguette barbarian has anything to do with it.
Not that theres anything wrong with anyone being nationality biased.
Also, there's indeed nothing wrong being biased with regards to nationality, just that it shouldn't count when you evaluate teams & players' performances. A team doesn't perform better just because it's from your country.
On July 11 2017 00:23 Ragnarork wrote: Baguette barbarian is a new one haha.
Also, there's indeed nothing wrong being biased with regards to nationality, just that it shouldn't count when you evaluate teams & players' performances. A team doesn't perform better just because it's from your country.
Your telling me DeMuslim wasn't the greatest terran ever to play starcraft 2? hmmm