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On November 01 2010 23:20 Jayme wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 21:08 Sanguinarius wrote: Unfortunately, China does own a massive amount of out Debt. And, the deficit has just increased more with Obama in office. Unless we ACTUALLY change (and not just say we will) our spending ways, this very well might come to pass.
I should brush up on my German, I might have to move to Switzerland. You can thank supply side economics for starting that train of fail. Now we reap the benefits. Benefits like 10% unemployment (REAL unemployment closer to 17.5%) , massive underemployment , real wages (after inflation) that have been declining since the 1970s.
So sad.
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On November 01 2010 22:34 iPlaY.NettleS wrote: lol USA has an 800 billion trade deficit , China has 200+ billion surplus. Sorry buddy but it is China that is rich and USA that is poor.
If i borrow 1 million dollars from the bank does that make me rich? because soon i will be poor when i have spent it and the interest keeps building.
Yeah but u all forget, world bank determines the global economy and its run by white people and jews.
MONEY IS NOT REAL PEOPLE. ITS NUMBERS IN A COMPUTER. America will never go bankrupt because its the shield protecting the white people, and the white people are in control.
HERE AN ECONOMIST QUESTION ( one which any economics student who actually knows wtf is going on will immediately laugh at ) - How can a system that loans X dollars with X interest Ever pay its debt off???? IT CANT
I CREATE a country. Say for example in an island that rises out of the water. Its lucious, full of minerals etc ( like africa cough cough ). I got to the world bank, "Hey im a new country, give me money to build infrastructure and start my country "
Ok says the world bank, we think ur country is worth 1 trillion, we will give u 1 trillion dollars. Btw theres 1% interest on that. Ok i say, sounds like a good deal I start my country and its worth is 1 trillion dollars..... I spend every dollar on the country...... I spend every resource of the country to pay it back
I then owe the bank FOREVER. GET IT. There is 1 % i can NEVER PAY BACK. That is the futility of the capitalist system, its build to FOOL U into using it, when in reality u can NEVER pay back what u owe, meaning u are FOREVER OWNED by the world banks
zeitgeist peoples , watch some real documentarys and wake up.,,,, Its all control, its all a joke and untill u realize how shit works u cant see how truly wrong it is.....
So learn how shit works
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seeing china's current growth and us's current state of the economy, i'm really sure china will overtake us in the very near future.
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On November 01 2010 17:33 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Exactly. Most of the stuff you buy nowdays is 'Made in China' , of course you guys are going to owe China serious coin. Unless you guys start buyihng more stuff that is labelled 'Made in USA' then the outcome of this video isn't all that far fetched. Dont foxconn only get something like $5 profit from every ipod they make and apple bags the rest? Alot of this trade isnt as biased as you would expect because corporations glady manufacture in china cos its cheaper and wont pass on the savings and then squander the profits.
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On November 01 2010 23:47 T0fuuu wrote:
Dont foxconn only get something like $5 profit from every ipod they make and apple bags the rest? Alot of this trade isnt as biased as you would expect because corporations glady manufacture in china cos its cheaper and wont pass on the savings and then squander the profits.
Don't mistake Apple with American people. The production takes place in Asia, and that's the point: No US citizens earns any money for producing it. Industrial employment was used to be the basis giving employment to huge groups of people. It's beeing outsourced, so many people end up unemployed. It's the fault of the US though, nothing one could blame China for...
Also: Even if Apple makes the largest part of that profit, who gets the money from that? Not the US citizens either. Average income difference between a head of a firm and employees grew from 30x in 1950 to 300x today. Another proportion is beeing invested into foreign countries, goes into stock exchange, banks or investors. Top 0,1% of US citizens earn more than bottom 120 million people...
Congraz US politicians, you broke your country over the last 30 years starting with Reagan. Last things keeping the economy going were overdone comsumption and financial industries - both were proven to be highly unstable now, and here it is: The end of a super power.
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As a Chinese American, I don't think this is racist, but just dystopian in a patriotic sense. I think this is a legitimate ad, as far as political propaganda goes. It makes its point and is memorable. Whether what the ad is arguing for makes sense or not is entirely irrelevant.
&@ Originalian: that's some pretty heavy bullcrap you're spewing, and it makes it all the more acceptable sine you're using all caps. There are perfectly reasonable justifications for a lender/lendee financial system. You have very little idea of what you're talking about.
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I actually think this is so racist people dont realize.
Lets not think about the ad for a minute. Lets think about its effects. Smart people who are in the know will know exactly what this ad means. The general population on the other hand is somewhat dimwitted and will think that Chinese people are bad.
911 linked to muslims - hate crimes rise, are we going to see hate crimes against chinese?
Jews in shakespearen works were portrayed poorly and accurately. There was alot of resentment against jews in those times.
Jews were seen as a threat by Hitler. Do I really need to go on?
Lets look at how this is racism but on a much deeper level. Its reverse-racism. The ad literally depicts the Chinese owning Americans. So much so you can probably draw a distinction to slavery. The way the people laugh exudes a lack of humanity, a lack of respect for human rights. Being dominant, master, over the slave. So what is the ad actually doing? Its saying that hey, we're getting kicked to the back of the bus, we need to stand up! Against this evil power. The last I checked however, slavery wasn't a choice, but fiscal debt is. So to portrait it as such is just despicable.
Honestly is there any point of showing an ad in this way? How much 'shock' value do you need? Kramer from Seinfeild claimed he only yelled the 'n' word in his comedy act for 'shock' value. That was considered racist, why isnt this? Perhaps the subtle undertones escape most people.
Its sad that when theirs internal turmoil in a nation they must cause some overseas to distract the generally stupid population. Its a political trick used throughout the ages. The Meiji era of japan for example waged war on china in order to detract from internal turmoil.
I can see this ad now causing tensions between kids who dont understand it. The fights on the playground, oh woweth me, shailock shall have his pound of flesh and every jew is evil. Perhaps its not the jew, chinese, african-american, or whatever other race you want to throw in their that is evil. Perhaps its those who so readily trick you into thinking this is ok, to portray people in this kind of light, who are truly evil.
I am not anti-american, but damn open your eyes people. The government isnt you or for you.
Besides, by 2030 everyone will be beige and there will be no 'racism'
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On November 01 2010 23:27 Originalien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 22:06 Dogsi wrote: Oh, and btw, I am so patriotic that I have spent the last 9 years living outside of America :-P Yeah but you live in indonesia which , i hate to say it coz i think america is a shining beacon of how u kill democracy and corrupt a great idea, is even worse. Militant Islamic , Poor as crap nation that has serious personal freedom issues. U get life in prison for smoking pot ffs....... And its full of kiddy touchers 2, much like other asian nations that are 2nd and 3rd world.... So not saying anything about you but living in indonesia is the one of the last places i would want to be I met a chick, on christian outreach mission ( pffff im not religious at all, dont care for the chick btw ) who saved a 4 year old from a BROTHEL in cambodia..... A fucking 4 year old, whos mom was so poor to feed her other kids she sold her 4 year old to a brothel...... Aint it a beautiful world
I lived in Japan before here. Indonesia sucks. Out of the 26 countries I've been to, I think Japan's the closest to getting it right.
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How is it assumed that China will just "take over"? I realize that as a nation, we have come to expect a lot of stuff from our leaders, espcially people from the younger generation who expect everything given to them for just "showing up" instead of putting in hard work to earn what each deserves.
I also don't think we can discredit the fact that we still hold, and will for a long time, the most powerful military on the planet. I see no reason why china needs to "take over" instead of us working together.
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On November 02 2010 01:01 Bulldozer wrote: How is it assumed that China will just "take over"? I realize that as a nation, we have come to expect a lot of stuff from our leaders, espcially people from the younger generation who expect everything given to them for just "showing up" instead of putting in hard work to earn what each deserves.
I also don't think we can discredit the fact that we still hold, and will for a long time, the most powerful military on the planet. I see no reason why china needs to "take over" instead of us working together.
For the same reason the nazi's were going to take over the world, for the same reason the USSR was going to take over the world, for the same reason that Japan was going to take over the world, ect.
Assuming that China does what no other country has ever done, industrialize with out crashing, and manages to keep its growth 8% points higher than America's for the next 20 years, yes, it will become the worlds largest economy. Will this happen though? Who the hell knows and who the hell cares?
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We all know america is in huge debt towards China, but who says we gotta pay them back? Realistically if we spend all our money towards defense and military. Even China is going to have a hard time fighting us for the money back
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As in practically as much as China does, the UK isn't too far behind either. Did not know that.
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On November 02 2010 01:12 dbizzle wrote: We all know america is in huge debt towards China, but who says we gotta pay them back? Realistically if we spend all our money towards defense and military. Even China is going to have a hard time fighting us for the money back
... this is just idiotic... we can't simply not pay it back.
We CAN devalue the USD so that by the time we do pay it back, it's half the real value of what we borrowed.
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Correction: Political candidates backed by Chinese drug cartels own the united states since 1950
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On November 02 2010 01:30 Dogsi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2010 01:12 dbizzle wrote: We all know america is in huge debt towards China, but who says we gotta pay them back? Realistically if we spend all our money towards defense and military. Even China is going to have a hard time fighting us for the money back ... this is just idiotic... we can't simply not pay it back. We CAN devalue the USD so that by the time we do pay it back, it's half the real value of what we borrowed.
How is that idiotic? It seems to be a very realistic scenario. USA being the #1 world power atm, if we got the guns and the technology to do whatever we want, why would they pay back china to empower them as well as hurt ourselves?
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CAWG is the most hilarious organization ever.
A non-partisan grassroots political movement funded by Pratt & Whitney, Microsoft, Exxon-Mobil, Merrill-Lynch, and other small mom and pop businesses.
They are non-Partisan insofar only as they are devoted to ensuring that the companies they lobby for get ahead, regardless of the political party through which they do so.
Seriously, go to their homepage. It's amazing. You'll see a link for "Help stop $2.9 Billion in wasteful defense spending!"
"Oh," you'll think "this really is a non-partisan organization. They want to stop spending money on the war!"
No.
Sadly not. They want to stop development on F136 engine for the JSF. Why do they want to do this?
Because the manufacturer of the current engine, the F135, paid them a shitload of money.
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Two party system is killing the nation inside out.
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lol where'd they get all these chinese people to film this with XD
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On November 02 2010 02:04 divinesage wrote: Two party system is killing the nation inside out. Its more like a one party system ... no mather which party wins they both do the same.
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