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Coagulation
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
Noooooooooooo Edit: 3 days later it has left customs. Yaaaaaaaaaaay I was scared it was going to be stuck there for a month. | ||
Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
Recorded this just to show a friend of mine some of my guitar style, and figured I might as well post it here as well. Just two minutes of random blues soloing. | ||
Jonoman92
United States9091 Posts
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AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
I am also now in possession of about 100 square feet of bubble wrap. You will see why when I post pictures. | ||
docvoc
United States5491 Posts
As a small note, I won't be buying this guitar for a year or so anyways, I've made a bunch of large purchases this year so this isn't in my budget for this year. I did want to know how long is a good amount of time for a 1k guitar purchase (I have a cheap, free amp from a friends dad that I will upgrade later). | ||
AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
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docvoc
United States5491 Posts
On December 18 2013 12:59 AndyJay wrote: Well a lot of people start on electrics and people that can afford it often start on guitars worth $2k+ as well. In the end if it fits your budget and you like it go for it. I assume you have a friend with one or a nearby shop has one or something? You really want to spend a good amount of time playing something before you buy it. You can not fall in love with a guitar from pictures on the internet and hearing it on youtube. Well you can but it's like falling in love with a girl from a profile pic. I've played it once, I played the student edition once too. I'd go in and play it more often if I didn't feel like awkward asking to play the same guitar over and over. | ||
Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
On December 18 2013 13:47 docvoc wrote: I've played it once, I played the student edition once too. I'd go in and play it more often if I didn't feel like awkward asking to play the same guitar over and over. 0:34 is relevant to this post. I'm going to have to do some tweaks to the truss rod on my new Jazz. The transition from Japanese winter to super cold, dry Canadian winter appears to have given it a bit of a bow. A slight tightening should fix that. That is how I nicked it before, trying to do the lazy way of adjusting the truss rod by not taking the neck off. It is a heel end truss rod since it is supposed to be faithful to the 1962 spec. It makes for a real pain. My 50s Precision is the same way but because that neck is so much thicker, the truss rod sticks out enough that a small flathead can turn it. Not so on my Jazz and I learned that the hard way by taking a tiny chunk of finish out. | ||
Teoita
Italy12246 Posts
On December 18 2013 08:53 Holgerius wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRX6NfHufLA Recorded this just to show a friend of mine some of my guitar style, and figured I might as well post it here as well. Just two minutes of random blues soloing. Fucking hell, Les Pauls plugged into Marshalls are literally the best thing ever. Is that a Sig T? On December 18 2013 12:32 docvoc wrote: Hey guys I need some advice. I've fallen in love with the PRS custom 24. How long should I wait to buy it? I've been playing for about 3 months now, I've been taking lessons at my college once a week and I practice about 1-2-3 hours a day depending on my free time. I've progressed pretty rapidly, but I know that it'd be a bad idea to rush into it. I see a lot of people buy an electric once they've been playing for a year or two, how long is a good amount of time to wait? As a small note, I won't be buying this guitar for a year or so anyways, I've made a bunch of large purchases this year so this isn't in my budget for this year. I did want to know how long is a good amount of time for a 1k guitar purchase (I have a cheap, free amp from a friends dad that I will upgrade later). Imo, whenever you have the budget for it really. I think it doesn't make sense to say "well im not good enough to buy that guitar". Especially when you are learning, you really should just buy a guitar that makes you want to play. Additionally, it makes no sense to buy a fancy guitar and play through a cheap/bad amp, so you should tag that in the costs as well. If you want to save up you can look for some decent used solid state or hybrid amps, i have a really nice Marshall Valvestate 8080 which only cost me 200 euros for instance. Also, white starts are sexy as shit. And LOL at that vid, when i bought my Gibson i actually had to pay it in cash because my debt card was a piece of shit that didn't accept transfers over 600 dollars...and murican ATM's only give 20 dollar notes for some bizarre reason. Was fun. | ||
Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On December 18 2013 17:44 Teoita wrote: Fucking hell, Les Pauls plugged into Marshalls are literally the best thing ever. Is that a Sig T? Using an Epiphone Goldtop, a JMC 800 and a Cry Baby Wah Wah in a position to boost a sweet spot. | ||
SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
I just love the riff that starts at 3:30 and the one at 4:24. Is the latter a way tuned down guitar or actually a bass riff? God I could listen to that song on repeat. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20728 Posts
Google that shit brother, there's a lot of true guitar nerds who seem to have made it their life's work to copy his rig Good Starting Point | ||
Kaos_StarCraft
Australia92 Posts
On December 19 2013 08:06 SixStrings wrote: Is there any way to get something approximate to the sound of Tool on an all tube amp? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iXMhphebGI I just love the riff that starts at 3:30 and the one at 4:24. Is the latter a way tuned down guitar or actually a bass riff? God I could listen to that song on repeat. The riff at 4:24 is just guitar + bass both of which are tuned to dropped d. http://www.youtube.com/user/opiateofthemasses His entire rig is dedicated to the replication of Adams, that also includes apparently attending several gigs with binoculars to eyeball and copy exactly how Adam plays each part. I myself have spent a considerable amount of time on this channel copying my favorite songs for myself. And to add to the thread; I'm cursed as a left handed player so while I basically have dibs on any guitars I find, finding them is very hard. I have a MIM strat. I don't think the steel bridge and 22nd fret of the MIA are worth the extra coin. + Show Spoiler + Scored this thing at a pawn shop for a steal, lucky for me they had no idea what it was. + Show Spoiler + My amp is pretty neat. It's the Jet City JCA20 with matching cab. + Show Spoiler + The video reviews on youtube don't do it justice, it really is the best low wattage amp I've ever heard. | ||
SixStrings
Germany2046 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
Firstly, it sounds absolutely amazing. It was mentioned on TalkBass that you can get a really good Jaco sound out of these things, and that is definitely the case. Even just using a standard volume/tone setup with both pickups it sounds amazing. Much better than my old MIM Jazz V. I put on a set of Rotosound Monel Flatwounds and it is absolutely perfect for what I am looking for. After the Christmas shipping rush I may consider getting a set of Labella tapewounds, but even with the Rotosounds I am quite happy. The pickups are definitely an upgrade from the ones included in MIM Fenders (according to the Fender Japan site they are American Vintage single coils). They have the 60Hz hum when the volume is set such that only one pickup is being used but that is to be expected. The soft case it came with is significantly heavier than any of the other softcases I've had, let alone the Fender ones, which are usually kinda thin (the USA Fender hard cases are amazing though. I have one for my Strat). I am going to get a hardcase for it though. Probably a tweed one to match the styling. As far as construction quality, the people who claimed the Japanese domestic market Fenders are as good (or better in some cases) as the US ones are not kidding, this one is easily on par with the US Fenders I've played, and much better than most MIMs outside of the Classic series. I've yet to find a single flaw in it. The neck is amazing, exactly what I expected. Thinner and wider than my Precision but not thin in a way that cramps up my hand, which is what happens when I play Ibanez SR-style basses. They have a nice heavy tint on the neck, which is what I prefer when it comes to vintage-styled basses and guitars. The finish is quite nice though I still have managed to nick it with a screwdriver while adjusting the truss rod(though you would have to have it pointed to in order to see it) because of me being lazy and not taking the neck off to adjust the truss rod, but that isn't a big deal. I bought this to play, not look at. The neck pocket is nice and tight, on par with the one on my USA Strat and much tighter than either of my MIM Fenders. No shimming is required to get good action, also something that had to be done on both my MIMs, so that is nice too. Upon taking it apart and putting it back together I have yet to find anything wrong with it, or any flaws, and I am quite picky about this type of thing. Had it not been stamped Made In Japan on the heel of the neck I would have thought it was an American Fender. The body is made up of 3 pieces of alder. I didn't expect it to be any more than that. I've seen some MIM Fenders and Squiers have bodies made up of many more pieces (which I fine I suppose, but looks bad with this type of finish), but I wasn't worried about that to begin with. Hardware wise, it is fine. One of the tuners needs a bit of oil to get it rolling smoother but other than that they are great. They are not reversed like my Precision so I always mix the two up. It has a vintage style bridge, much like my 50s Precision, but this one seems like it is much heavier. The saddles never move, which is an issue I have with my Precision, so that is nice. Getting used to fretless has taken a bit but I am getting the hang of it now after playing a whole ton of scales and using a tuner to learn positioning. I still once in a while play it like a fretted bass by accident but usually I catch myself. I'm finding it much easier to play than fretted though, all things considered. Not having to contend with fret noise from the strings hitting the frets and fret buzz makes it so I can focus on playing. There is a slight amount of buzz from the strings vibrating against the fretboard but that is standard for fretless and contributes to the sound. Some things are definitely easier. Weird Jaco-style false harmonics are easier for sure (by this I mean where you hold down a string at one position and lightly touch it at another. In "Portrait of Tracy" you have to hold down the second fret and make a harmonic at the 6th, and at the end hold down the 9th fret and create a harmonic at 13. That kind of thing). The challenge so far is making sure my finger doesn't shift such that it starts playing an out of tune note. That is something that will just take time. It is nice having a Jazz pickup setup as I like playing around where the bridge pickup is, and on a Precision there isn't really anywhere to anchor my thumb if I play around there. Luckily the intonation was dead on so not much needed to be done for setup other than a quarter turn tightening of the truss rod and a slight lowering of the string saddles. I may tighten the truss rod a little more as there is still a slight bow in it since the neck has finally settled down after getting used to the climate here (cold and very dry). I was worried the cold temperatures the bass would experience in shipping would mess up the neck a bunch (perhaps warp it) but that hasn't been the case. It is dead on straight. Now I will talk about my experiences with Ishibashi. They did a amazing job. It was certainly a non-standard online shopping experience but everything went super smooth. I emailed out my request for an estimate and got a response within two hours, and had my bass ordered in about 4. With the service, you deal with a person through the whole thing rather than using a cart system. They give you a full description of the instrument and everything. Because it is the busy season for overseas orders it took them a couple days to get it shipped, but once it shipped I got it in 3(!) business days (though it did travel over the weekend, so more like 5 actual days, but still that is insane).They shipped it late Thursday, I got it Tuesday. That's faster than most Canada-based orders, let alone American orders. ~9000 miles in 5 days, in which 2 it was in Vancouver for. As you will see in the pictures, the bass was packed to withstand basically anything. It was wrapped in I would guess about 30 square meters of bubble wrap across maybe 6-8 layers, including a layer that was one giant sheet folded over a few times, so. I do have a payment thing I need to get cleared up (edit: It is solved now. It was my bank being slow) with them but other than that I have had no issues with them, and much better customer service than I get from most sites. They answered my questions insanely fast whenever I had them. I am using the bubble wrap to wrap by brother's Christmas gift. It will take him 10 minutes to unwrap it. I would definitely buy from Ishibashi again, and most likely will in the future. The shipping fees (and duty, but there is nothing I can do about that. Would have been the same from the US) were a bit steep (shipping to Canada was about $120 using EMS) so for stuff available locally I would not recommend it in some cases, but for stuff only sold in Japan, it is easily worth it, especially since if you were to sell it you could easily recoup the costs. The U Box (used shop) is a must if you are going the import route. You can get basically anything Fender Japan on it if you are patient, including a lot of insanely cool special run instruments (They also have Edwards, which is ESP's domestic market brand, which is made at the same factory as ESP. You can get an Edwards that is identical to a $2000 ESP for about $1200. They also have a ton of insane domestic market brands that have really neat stuff. There are still a few remaining Jackson Stars guitars, which was Jackson's Japanese domestic brand before they closed the Japan factories. Those are as good as American Jacksons. At one point you could get custom Jackson Stars guitars that were absolutely stunning). My Jazz was about $250 off the full price by going through the U Box. Had I bought new it would have been over $1100 shipping and duty included. This way it was about $850 in total after exchange rates took their toll, of which half is being offset by me selling my 7 string Ibanez. Here's some pictures. They're phone pictures so some of them are a bit blurry. I included some pictures of the shipping stuff for those curious. Also, the hilarious hand drawn signs on the box it was shipped in. + Show Spoiler + Blurry image of it when I first was opening the case. It was quite cold still at this point (it was -20 out the day it was delivered) so fingerprints were especially visible: No frets! There was basically no wear on the fretboard. I would suspect that this bass had less than 15 hours of play on it. Or the person had a very light touch. No signs of strings digging in at all, which can be an issue on unfinished fretless boards like this. Though due to the nature of fretless you don't really need to do bends since you can do violin-style vibrato to achieve the same thing so that may be why there are no signs of strings digging in. Case candy. I didn't expect there to be any. I knew these came with a pickguard included new, but I didn't expect to get one so this was a pleasant surprise. The person who came up with this model was smart. They knew a lot of people who bought this bass would want it to have no pickguard so they made it optional and simply included it. The rest of the hardware for the pickguard was in the bag. Now for some shots of the goofy packaging: There were way more but they were all partially covered with shipping info. One was big coloured in block letters. There were also like 10 up arrows drawn on it. I seriously had to remove two layers just to see that it indeed was a bass. So much bubble wrap There it is after about 8 minutes of unwrapping. I read that it takes about 15 minutes to unpack a guitar shipped by Ishibashi. I thought it was a joke but they were right. It took a long time. But that is fine with me. So yeah, that's about it. I was quite nervous about this whole thing as it almost seemed too good to be true, but it wasn't. It was perfect in every way. The bass is perfect. The shopping experience was perfect. Even my luck with shipping went as well as it could as it didn't get stuck in customs for more than a couple hours. The whole experience was kinda expensive but it was so worth it. Now I just need to get another wall hanger. All mine are full right now. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland20728 Posts
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AndyJay
Australia833 Posts
So yeah, that's about it. No... that's not about it. Now you post a video of you playing! Also I don't think you're helping this guy at all. So inconsiderate. > I have to stop looking into this thread, as I'm getting perilously close to getting myself a bass and amp for Christmas. Spending money on music stuff is kinda hard to feel guilty about, for m at least. I bought a keyboard the start of this year and only played it for about a month but just knowing it will always be there to muck around on or seriously take up is great. I think every house should have at least a guitar and a piano/keyboard. | ||
Kaos_StarCraft
Australia92 Posts
On December 20 2013 00:50 Ben... wrote: Had my new bass a full day and a bit. Here's my thoughts so far. For those just tuning in it is a Fender Japan JB62-FL, or in simple terms, a Japanese Fender '62 Jazz Bass with a fretless neck. In Japan, Fender names their models after the closest year that their specifications represent. There is also a 1970s style Jazz Bass, and the pattern holds for other Fender models too. + Show Spoiler + Firstly, it sounds absolutely amazing. It was mentioned on TalkBass that you can get a really good Jaco sound out of these things, and that is definitely the case. Even just using a standard volume/tone setup with both pickups it sounds amazing. Much better than my old MIM Jazz V. I put on a set of Rotosound Monel Flatwounds and it is absolutely perfect for what I am looking for. After the Christmas shipping rush I may consider getting a set of Labella tapewounds, but even with the Rotosounds I am quite happy. The pickups are definitely an upgrade from the ones included in MIM Fenders (according to the Fender Japan site they are American Vintage single coils). They have the 60Hz hum when the volume is set such that only one pickup is being used but that is to be expected. The soft case it came with is significantly heavier than any of the other softcases I've had, let alone the Fender ones, which are usually kinda thin (the USA Fender hard cases are amazing though. I have one for my Strat). I am going to get a hardcase for it though. Probably a tweed one to match the styling. As far as construction quality, the people who claimed the Japanese domestic market Fenders are as good (or better in some cases) as the US ones are not kidding, this one is easily on par with the US Fenders I've played, and much better than most MIMs outside of the Classic series. I've yet to find a single flaw in it. The neck is amazing, exactly what I expected. Thinner and wider than my Precision but not thin in a way that cramps up my hand, which is what happens when I play Ibanez SR-style basses. They have a nice heavy tint on the neck, which is what I prefer when it comes to vintage-styled basses and guitars. The finish is quite nice though I still have managed to nick it with a screwdriver while adjusting the truss rod(though you would have to have it pointed to in order to see it) because of me being lazy and not taking the neck off to adjust the truss rod, but that isn't a big deal. I bought this to play, not look at. The neck pocket is nice and tight, on par with the one on my USA Strat and much tighter than either of my MIM Fenders. No shimming is required to get good action, also something that had to be done on both my MIMs, so that is nice too. Upon taking it apart and putting it back together I have yet to find anything wrong with it, or any flaws, and I am quite picky about this type of thing. Had it not been stamped Made In Japan on the heel of the neck I would have thought it was an American Fender. The body is made up of 3 pieces of alder. I didn't expect it to be any more than that. I've seen some MIM Fenders and Squiers have bodies made up of many more pieces (which I fine I suppose, but looks bad with this type of finish), but I wasn't worried about that to begin with. Hardware wise, it is fine. One of the tuners needs a bit of oil to get it rolling smoother but other than that they are great. They are not reversed like my Precision so I always mix the two up. It has a vintage style bridge, much like my 50s Precision, but this one seems like it is much heavier. The saddles never move, which is an issue I have with my Precision, so that is nice. Getting used to fretless has taken a bit but I am getting the hang of it now after playing a whole ton of scales and using a tuner to learn positioning. I still once in a while play it like a fretted bass by accident but usually I catch myself. I'm finding it much easier to play than fretted though, all things considered. Not having to contend with fret noise from the strings hitting the frets and fret buzz makes it so I can focus on playing. There is a slight amount of buzz from the strings vibrating against the fretboard but that is standard for fretless and contributes to the sound. Some things are definitely easier. Weird Jaco-style false harmonics are easier for sure (by this I mean where you hold down a string at one position and lightly touch it at another. In "Portrait of Tracy" you have to hold down the second fret and make a harmonic at the 6th, and at the end hold down the 9th fret and create a harmonic at 13. That kind of thing). The challenge so far is making sure my finger doesn't shift such that it starts playing an out of tune note. That is something that will just take time. It is nice having a Jazz pickup setup as I like playing around where the bridge pickup is, and on a Precision there isn't really anywhere to anchor my thumb if I play around there. Luckily the intonation was dead on so not much needed to be done for setup other than a quarter turn tightening of the truss rod and a slight lowering of the string saddles. I may tighten the truss rod a little more as there is still a slight bow in it since the neck has finally settled down after getting used to the climate here (cold and very dry). I was worried the cold temperatures the bass would experience in shipping would mess up the neck a bunch (perhaps warp it) but that hasn't been the case. It is dead on straight. Now I will talk about my experiences with Ishibashi. They did a amazing job. It was certainly a non-standard online shopping experience but everything went super smooth. I emailed out my request for an estimate and got a response within two hours, and had my bass ordered in about 4. With the service, you deal with a person through the whole thing rather than using a cart system. They give you a full description of the instrument and everything. Because it is the busy season for overseas orders it took them a couple days to get it shipped, but once it shipped I got it in 3(!) business days (though it did travel over the weekend, so more like 5 actual days, but still that is insane).They shipped it late Thursday, I got it Tuesday. That's faster than most Canada-based orders, let alone American orders. ~9000 miles in 5 days, in which 2 it was in Vancouver for. As you will see in the pictures, the bass was packed to withstand basically anything. It was wrapped in I would guess about 30 square meters of bubble wrap across maybe 6-8 layers, including a layer that was one giant sheet folded over a few times, so. I do have a payment thing I need to get cleared up with them but other than that I have had no issues with them, and much better customer service than I get from most sites. They answered my questions insanely fast whenever I had them. I am using the bubble wrap to wrap by brother's Christmas gift. It will take him 10 minutes to unwrap it. I would definitely buy from Ishibashi again, and most likely will in the future. The shipping fees (and duty, but there is nothing I can do about that. Would have been the same from the US) were a bit steep (shipping to Canada was about $120 using EMS) so for stuff available locally I would not recommend it in some cases, but for stuff only sold in Japan, it is easily worth it, especially since if you were to sell it you could easily recoup the costs. The U Box (used shop) is a must if you are going the import route. You can get basically anything Fender Japan on it if you are patient, including a lot of insanely cool special run instruments (They also have Edwards, which is ESP's domestic market brand, which is made at the same factory as ESP. You can get an Edwards that is identical to a $2000 ESP for about $1200. They also have a ton of insane domestic market brands that have really neat stuff. There are still a few remaining Jackson Stars guitars, which was Jackson's Japanese domestic brand before they closed the Japan factories. Those are as good as American Jacksons. At one point you could get custom Jackson Stars guitars that were absolutely stunning). My Jazz was about $250 off the full price by going through the U Box. Had I bought new it would have been over $1100 shipping and duty included. This way it was about $850 in total after exchange rates took their toll, of which half is being offset by me selling my 7 string Ibanez. Here's some pictures. They're phone pictures so some of them are a bit blurry. I included some pictures of the shipping stuff for those curious. Also, the hilarious hand drawn signs on the box it was shipped in. + Show Spoiler + Blurry image of it when I first was opening the case. It was quite cold still at this point (it was -20 out the day it was delivered) so fingerprints were especially visible: No frets! There was basically no wear on the fretboard. I would suspect that this bass had less than 15 hours of play on it. Or the person had a very light touch. No signs of strings digging in at all, which can be an issue on unfinished fretless boards like this. Though due to the nature of fretless you don't really need to do bends since you can do violin-style vibrato to achieve the same thing so that may be why there are no signs of strings digging in. Case candy. I didn't expect there to be any. I knew these came with a pickguard included new, but I didn't expect to get one so this was a pleasant surprise. The person who came up with this model was smart. They knew a lot of people who bought this bass would want it to have no pickguard so they made it optional and simply included it. The rest of the hardware for the pickguard was in the bag. Now for some shots of the goofy packaging: There were way more but they were all partially covered with shipping info. One was big coloured in block letters. There were also like 10 up arrows drawn on it. I seriously had to remove two layers just to see that it indeed was a bass. So much bubble wrap There it is after about 8 minutes of unwrapping. I read that it takes about 15 minutes to unpack a guitar shipped by Ishibashi. I thought it was a joke but they were right. It took a long time. But that is fine with me. So yeah, that's about it. I was quite nervous about this whole thing as it almost seemed too good to be true, but it wasn't. It was perfect in every way. The bass is perfect. The shopping experience was perfect. Even my luck with shipping went as well as it could as it didn't get stuck in customs for more than a couple hours. The whole experience was kinda expensive but it was so worth it. Now I just need to get another wall hanger. All mine are full right now. Thank you Ben for your detailed review of your customer experiences with Ishibashi. This has increased my confidence so much so that I am seriously considering doing business with them next year. Guitars (and everything else) in Australia are disgustingly overpriced, let me give some examples: American Standard Stratocaster: USA $1,679 AU $2,299 Gibson Les Paul Standard USA $2,999 AU $4,499 fucking seriously? Even guitar strings in shops are $11, I've seen them as high as $24.95 (yes, for a single set). Yet on ebay they are $5.95. I could keep going but I'm sure you guys get the idea and that's why all my instrument & equipment purchases are now done over in internet. | ||
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