We'll never know if she did or didn't do it. So many aspects of the case were done in such a bad way, a true investigation will never be done. Personally i think she/they had alot more involvment in it than they are going to admit.
I really don't think she should be portrayed as a victim anymore though.This should be the end of it now. There is still a dead girl who's family will never know what actually happened.
I agree that it casts the whole country in a bad light, and I also agree that it casts their justice system in a bad light. Can't forget that each country has their own norms, though.
Tbh I couldn't be convinced that she killed her roomate from the information given to me by the American media, but bias is clear there. Glad to see that she was found not guilty regardless.
The thing that infuriated me most was the fact that the Italian justice system was so fucked they could convict Knox and her boyfriend AND convict someone else with two different stories of how the murders took place in each trial. How fucking ridiculous. That being said, I'm almost positive there are things here in the US that make outsiders do a double take.
Edit: The more I've looked into it the more I've felt it wasn't the fault of the justice system at large, but the individual prosecutors assigned to the case.
Double Edit: And I have to agree with the poster right below me as a general principle of how cases should be decided.
On October 04 2011 05:09 FabledIntegral wrote: Are we positive she didn't do it though? :o
Wrong question. The question is "Are we sure that she DID do it?". If not, there should be no conviction. I do not want to live in a state, where all people are punished, who might have done a crime.
The more I've looked into it the more I've felt it wasn't the fault of the justice system at large, but the individual prosecutors assigned to the case.
The blame should be aimed at the forensic applications and methods that were used. Walking through a crimescene without overalls, masks or hair covers is just ridiculous. Having a partner with a degree in Forensic Biology helps to understand what they actually did wrong :D
On October 04 2011 05:09 FabledIntegral wrote: Are we positive she didn't do it though? :o
Wrong question. The question is "Are we sure that she DID do it?". If not, there should be no conviction. I do not want to live in a state, where all people are punished, who might have done a crime.
Exactly, too bad a lot of people in here can't comprehend this basic principle and how important it is for a democratic society.
funny you say that with the US killing everyone in their sight
Simply because the US is doing something that casts it in a bad light, it's citizens can't comment on something that casts another country in a bad light? That's some screwy logic, sir.
On October 04 2011 05:09 FabledIntegral wrote: Are we positive she didn't do it though? :o
Wrong question. The question is "Are we sure that she DID do it?". If not, there should be no conviction. I do not want to live in a state, where all people are punished, who might have done a crime.
Oh, I agree, I definitely worded it poorly. I wasn't meaning to refer to the judicial system itself but rather I felt the OP implied it was obvious she was innocent. Could be wrong, and regardless, bad phrasing by me T_T.
On October 04 2011 05:13 Risen wrote: I agree that it casts the whole country in a bad light, and I also agree that it casts their justice system in a bad light. Can't forget that each country has their own norms, though.
On October 04 2011 05:13 zatic wrote: This is one of the most fucked up cases ever. Even if the prosecutors hadn't fucked up everything it would have been hard to make this a case.
Now there is her randomly tortured to death roommate and she goes free. I really feel bad for the relatives and friends of the victim.
Go search for a country that arrests people to make others feel better and tell me if you want to live in that country.
A criminal goes free because of prosecutors who can't do their job properly. I see the American media did a pretty good job of painting her as a unfairly accused, wronged, innocent victim to their viewers though. Innocent in paper, but forever stigmatized and with a guilty conscience for the rest of her life.
Thank goodness, prosecutors never used anything that didn't have tainted evidence or circumstantial evidence. This was always just a big media case mumbo jumbo.
I feel bad for the victim and the family of course.
On October 04 2011 05:13 zatic wrote: This is one of the most fucked up cases ever. Even if the prosecutors hadn't fucked up everything it would have been hard to make this a case.
Now there is her randomly tortured to death roommate and she goes free. I really feel bad for the relatives and friends of the victim.
Italian police are corrupt and its most likely they got the wrong people in prison in the first place.
But the most important thing to look at a murder case in the motive, why would this girl and her boyfriend kill her roommate?
I don't know too much about the case, but from what I know there is no evidence of the previously convicted doing the crime.