Amanda Knox Yet Again Guilty of Murder - Page 30
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InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3463 Posts
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Derez
Netherlands6068 Posts
On February 04 2014 02:27 Mohdoo wrote: If she's not gonna get extradited, what's the big deal? Somethings tells me she didn't plan on going back to Italy ever again. Or would she be extradited from anywhere in the EU? She could be extradited from any country that has an extradition treaty with Italy. Those cover pretty much all of EU/NA/SA with some random countries added in the other continents, plus no connecting flights at any airport in any of those countries. | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 04 2014 07:57 InFiNitY[pG] wrote: I agree. It is very difficult to the discuss the case however, as there are so many sources directly contradicting each other. But even if you leave all those out, there are still a ton of facts that don't add up with the 'guede did it alone' theory. On the other hand, there's no motive, no murder weapon, no conclusive evidence linking either of them to the scene of the murder. Still, After all I've read I find it hard to believe that they are innocent ( most important to me is the so-called burglary, nothing about that story adds up). Agreed. All the sources people are quoting seem bias in one way or the other. It is clear that the global stage has hurt this case and we may never know the true story. Nationalism and pride seem to influence any information you can get on the case to the point that no really solid information can be found. But I find the whole case weird that a seemingly normal girl with zero history of violence randomly decided to kill her roommate. | ||
WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On February 04 2014 10:13 Plansix wrote: Agreed. All the sources people are quoting seem bias in one way or the other. It is clear that the global stage has hurt this case and we may never know the true story. Nationalism and pride seem to influence any information you can get on the case to the point that no really solid information can be found. But I find the whole case weird that a seemingly normal girl with zero history of violence randomly decided to kill her roommate. I think it's been said that the worst sociopaths are also the most personable individuals. Which basically means that you can't draw any conclusions about any person with absolute certainty, unless you're privy to 100% of their life. | ||
InFiNitY[pG]
Germany3463 Posts
There's a lot of holes in that version as well, but not more than in any other version I've read. | ||
SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
Italy has 3 grades of Justice: if the Court says they are not guilty, they will be definetely free and no more process will occur. If they are confirmed guilty, Sollecito will be immediately brought to jail and extradiction procedures will start for Amanda Knox. I believe the sentence will be out at maximum in 8 hours from my post. | ||
excitedBear
Austria120 Posts
I would have thought that there is some kind of international law that allows for murderers to be imprisoned irrespective of the residing nation. At least that would make sense to me. | ||
Ghostcom
Denmark4776 Posts
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excitedBear
Austria120 Posts
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On March 27 2015 21:00 excitedBear wrote: I see, but in theory the US can still refuse to send her right? Yes, they could if they don't agree with the ruling or think she shouldn't been tried twice(this is the main argument I being put forth why she won't be). It will all come down to politics and who wants to push for it. It is not automatic and this trial has been such a disaster its all pretty up in the air. | ||
coverpunch
United States2093 Posts
On March 27 2015 21:00 excitedBear wrote: I see, but in theory the US can still refuse to send her right? Yes, and my impression is that this will end as a face-saving exercise for the Italian justice system. They'll attach some judgment to her but either not bother to file an extradition request or file one with the knowledge that the US intends to quietly refuse. The US probably wouldn't honor an extradition request until a final judgment is rendered and attached anyways, and surely her case can attract some powerful allies if she casts herself as the pretty, innocent girl victimized by the capricious Italian justice system that just wants to nail her because she's American. | ||
MavivaM
1535 Posts
On March 27 2015 21:47 coverpunch wrote: Yes, and my impression is that this will end as a face-saving exercise for the Italian justice system. They'll attach some judgment to her but either not bother to file an extradition request or file one with the knowledge that the US intends to quietly refuse. The US probably wouldn't honor an extradition request until a final judgment is rendered and attached anyways, and surely her case can attract some powerful allies if she casts herself as the pretty, innocent girl victimized by the capricious Italian justice system that just wants to nail her because she's American. I totally agree with you. That was poorly conducted by the italian justice system, but it's not that rare in my country The last time some american did cause some deaths here, he went unscathed thanks to extradition as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cavalese_cable_car_disaster_(1998) Unnecesssary clarification but still: my issue doesn't come from the fact that a criminal (or not, heh) is from a specific nation, but from the fact that there are nations that can easily bypass our already, deeply, flawed justice system... and most importantly, that italy isn't able to enforce its will. Meanwhile, if some italian fucks up around like in india, foreign states don't give a fuck (against, reagrdless of presence/absence of guilt. It's more about political weight and how a citizen can rely on his own country while around the world - in that case, USA seem to be excellent, moral implications aside) I'm fuckin sick of being part of a butt-country. > | ||
Plansix
United States60190 Posts
AP just reported the conviction has been overturned. Its over and no one is going to jail. | ||
Maenander
Germany4919 Posts
On March 28 2015 06:43 Plansix wrote: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e8eacf8091254195ace10e640a3354c5/italys-highest-court-overturns-amanda-knox-murder AP just reported the conviction has been overturned. Its over and no one is going to jail. They already were in jail, and Guede is still in jail. Amanda Knox' conviction for false accusations against her former boss Patrick Lumumba was upheld, but she has already served her time. | ||
QuantumTeleportation
United States119 Posts
On March 28 2015 06:43 Plansix wrote: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/e8eacf8091254195ace10e640a3354c5/italys-highest-court-overturns-amanda-knox-murder AP just reported the conviction has been overturned. Its over and no one is going to jail. An interesting turn of events although there are so many media articles claiming that she's guilty and was freed because she's rich and she's American. | ||
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