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On December 06 2011 09:33 Fruscainte wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 09:24 Klondikebar wrote:On December 06 2011 09:20 Myles wrote:On December 06 2011 09:20 GrapeApe wrote:I hate EA, but their name on the box of Star Wars: The Old Republic will not stop be from buying that shit! KOTOR 3 IS FINALLY HERE...in mmo form And this is why EA will keep shitting all over you. I believe they have said that SWTOR will not require you to go through Origin. What's dumb is that could have been a blatant lie and we won't know until release day. And I'm curious, what happens when you use a bad word in the game, someone reports you, and you get permabanned from SWTOR? Ubisoft that From Dust was not going to have any DRM whatsoever, and it was the most DRM intrusive game of the last decade. I would take their word with a grain of salt, I would not be surprised if SWTOR took Origin.
I remember the From Dust debacle. They lied multiple times and then when they finally got it sorted out the game still played like shit on the PC because it was such a shoddy port.
Does it count as piracy if you download the game, play it for 30 seconds, make a face like you just sucked on a lemon, and delete the game?
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On December 06 2011 09:36 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 09:33 Fruscainte wrote:On December 06 2011 09:24 Klondikebar wrote:On December 06 2011 09:20 Myles wrote:On December 06 2011 09:20 GrapeApe wrote:I hate EA, but their name on the box of Star Wars: The Old Republic will not stop be from buying that shit! KOTOR 3 IS FINALLY HERE...in mmo form And this is why EA will keep shitting all over you. I believe they have said that SWTOR will not require you to go through Origin. What's dumb is that could have been a blatant lie and we won't know until release day. And I'm curious, what happens when you use a bad word in the game, someone reports you, and you get permabanned from SWTOR? Ubisoft that From Dust was not going to have any DRM whatsoever, and it was the most DRM intrusive game of the last decade. I would take their word with a grain of salt, I would not be surprised if SWTOR took Origin. I remember the From Dust debacle. They lied multiple times and then when they finally got it sorted out the game still played like shit on the PC because it was such a shoddy port. Does it count as piracy if you download the game, play it for 30 seconds, make a face like you just sucked on a lemon, and delete the game?
They'll have you believe so, yes.
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Good way to destroy a community. The military fps is built on shit talk and 12 year old mic spam. I'm really not sure why EA would turn against that.
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EA is too cheap to get competent personnel... And then they have the nerve to try and cover it up.
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On December 06 2011 08:01 Latedi wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 06:53 overt wrote:On December 06 2011 06:48 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money. thats the problem in the game industry. in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to. names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa. also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way . i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i hate much of what they done with sc2, hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else. I understand why most people don't choose to boycott EA/Activision but those two companies are, imo, ruining the video game industry. If people want shit to change you have to actually do something rather than complain about it on reddit or TL and send angry emails. Most of the people bitching about Origin and EA will probably end up buying Mass Effect 3 regardless. Most of the people who are mad about Activision laying off the guys at Infinity Ward, not putting LAN in SC2, and all of the other shenanigans that they pull will still buy the new Call of Duty or StarCraft expansion. You have to show companies that you're mad with your wallet not with your words. The answer is easy if you ask me :p PiracyJust download the games you want to play but are being made by some douche company and pay for games from studios you like. Don't give money to Blizzard, give it to indie developers or other companies which are not controlled by money
Money is how businesses work, the only different between Indie developers and ones like Blizzard is that ones like Blizzard have the room to be an ass. If the Indie developer has even the smallest screw-up with how they treat their customers, no one will buy their product. The same can not be said for larger developers.
Even if you do support the Indie developers, what then? The Indie ones which just eventually become the new Blizzard, and nothing will change. Money is what is corrupting the industry, those who have large amounts of money invested in the companies don't give a shit about you, they only care about the money, and unfortunately their influence holds a lot of weight.
The worst part is that at the end of the PC gaming road, we won't see developers become nicer and give us what we want, we'll see them just abort PC gaming all together for the much safer consoles.
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Reminds me of a thread on the league of legends forum where a red named "jeffjew" replied to why someone was banned. Evidently he said "wtf?" and "noob" too many times. The age of care bear gaming is near.
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Im quite happy to be pirating all my EA games. Wouldn't ever want to get banned from single player for not doing anything bad at all.
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On December 06 2011 09:53 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 08:01 Latedi wrote:On December 06 2011 06:53 overt wrote:On December 06 2011 06:48 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money. thats the problem in the game industry. in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to. names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa. also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way . i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i hate much of what they done with sc2, hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else. I understand why most people don't choose to boycott EA/Activision but those two companies are, imo, ruining the video game industry. If people want shit to change you have to actually do something rather than complain about it on reddit or TL and send angry emails. Most of the people bitching about Origin and EA will probably end up buying Mass Effect 3 regardless. Most of the people who are mad about Activision laying off the guys at Infinity Ward, not putting LAN in SC2, and all of the other shenanigans that they pull will still buy the new Call of Duty or StarCraft expansion. You have to show companies that you're mad with your wallet not with your words. The answer is easy if you ask me :p PiracyJust download the games you want to play but are being made by some douche company and pay for games from studios you like. Don't give money to Blizzard, give it to indie developers or other companies which are not controlled by money Money is how businesses work, the only different between Indie developers and ones like Blizzard is that ones like Blizzard have the room to be an ass. If the Indie developer has even the smallest screw-up with how they treat their customers, no one will buy their product. The same can not be said for larger developers. Even if you do support the Indie developers, what then? The Indie ones which just eventually become the new Blizzard, and nothing will change. Money is what is corrupting the industry, those who have large amounts of money invested in the companies don't give a shit about you, they only care about the money, and unfortunately their influence holds a lot of weight. The worst part is that at the end of the PC gaming road, we won't see developers become nicer and give us what we want, we'll see them just abort PC gaming all together for the much safer consoles.
Just to be clear, developers (like Blizzard) are often on our side. They're gamers too and they know how things work. Many of these terrible decisions come from publishers (in the Blizzard example that would be Activision) and even then it's mostly from upper management.
Working in the corporate world has taught me that company officers can often be completely divorced from reality.
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And they wonder why people like to pirate their games...
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On December 06 2011 10:01 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 09:53 killa_robot wrote:On December 06 2011 08:01 Latedi wrote:On December 06 2011 06:53 overt wrote:On December 06 2011 06:48 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money. thats the problem in the game industry. in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to. names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa. also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way . i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i hate much of what they done with sc2, hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else. I understand why most people don't choose to boycott EA/Activision but those two companies are, imo, ruining the video game industry. If people want shit to change you have to actually do something rather than complain about it on reddit or TL and send angry emails. Most of the people bitching about Origin and EA will probably end up buying Mass Effect 3 regardless. Most of the people who are mad about Activision laying off the guys at Infinity Ward, not putting LAN in SC2, and all of the other shenanigans that they pull will still buy the new Call of Duty or StarCraft expansion. You have to show companies that you're mad with your wallet not with your words. The answer is easy if you ask me :p PiracyJust download the games you want to play but are being made by some douche company and pay for games from studios you like. Don't give money to Blizzard, give it to indie developers or other companies which are not controlled by money Money is how businesses work, the only different between Indie developers and ones like Blizzard is that ones like Blizzard have the room to be an ass. If the Indie developer has even the smallest screw-up with how they treat their customers, no one will buy their product. The same can not be said for larger developers. Even if you do support the Indie developers, what then? The Indie ones which just eventually become the new Blizzard, and nothing will change. Money is what is corrupting the industry, those who have large amounts of money invested in the companies don't give a shit about you, they only care about the money, and unfortunately their influence holds a lot of weight. The worst part is that at the end of the PC gaming road, we won't see developers become nicer and give us what we want, we'll see them just abort PC gaming all together for the much safer consoles. Just to be clear, developers (like Blizzard) are often on our side. They're gamers too and they know how things work. Many of these terrible decisions come from publishers (in the Blizzard example that would be Activision) and even then it's mostly from upper management. Working in the corporate world has taught me that company officers can often be completely divorced from reality.
Switch what I said to publishers then. Either way the source of the problem isn't really something we can do anything about.
I don't actually have anything against Blizzard (though with shitty battle.net 2.0 and the story of SC2 so far they're well on their way), I was just continue to use his example rather than bothering to pick a new one.
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On December 06 2011 09:53 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 08:01 Latedi wrote:On December 06 2011 06:53 overt wrote:On December 06 2011 06:48 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money. thats the problem in the game industry. in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to. names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa. also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way . i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i hate much of what they done with sc2, hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else. I understand why most people don't choose to boycott EA/Activision but those two companies are, imo, ruining the video game industry. If people want shit to change you have to actually do something rather than complain about it on reddit or TL and send angry emails. Most of the people bitching about Origin and EA will probably end up buying Mass Effect 3 regardless. Most of the people who are mad about Activision laying off the guys at Infinity Ward, not putting LAN in SC2, and all of the other shenanigans that they pull will still buy the new Call of Duty or StarCraft expansion. You have to show companies that you're mad with your wallet not with your words. The answer is easy if you ask me :p PiracyJust download the games you want to play but are being made by some douche company and pay for games from studios you like. Don't give money to Blizzard, give it to indie developers or other companies which are not controlled by money Money is how businesses work, the only different between Indie developers and ones like Blizzard is that ones like Blizzard have the room to be an ass. If the Indie developer has even the smallest screw-up with how they treat their customers, no one will buy their product. The same can not be said for larger developers. Even if you do support the Indie developers, what then? The Indie ones which just eventually become the new Blizzard, and nothing will change. Money is what is corrupting the industry, those who have large amounts of money invested in the companies don't give a shit about you, they only care about the money, and unfortunately their influence holds a lot of weight. The worst part is that at the end of the PC gaming road, we won't see developers become nicer and give us what we want, we'll see them just abort PC gaming all together for the much safer consoles. Case and point: Minecraft. A game that started out good, with massive potential. Eventually had the developer Notch making business game development decisions influenced by lawyers.
From Notch's Blog 26th April 2011
The plan for mods After some internal discussion and general anxiety, we’ve arrived at a plan for supporting mods. It’s still a bit vague and the details might change after we’ve run it by our lawyers, but here’s what we want to do: * Let players sign up as “mod developers”. This will cost money (edit: no longer costs money!), and will require you agreeing to a license deal (you only need one per mod team). * Mod developers can download the source code from our SVN repository. As soon as we commit a change, it will be available to all mod developers, unobfuscated and uncensored. * Mod developers get a unique certificate for signing their mods. This means players can see who made what mod and choose to trust individual developers. The cost of signing up makes sure only serious developers have access to this certificate. The rules of the license deal will contain: * Mods must only be playable by people who have bought Minecraft * You can’t sell your mods or make money off them unless you’ve got a separate license deal with us * The mods must not be malicious (obviously) * We retain the right to use your mod idea and implement it ourselves in Minecraft. This is to prevent the situation where we have to avoid adding a feature just because there’s a mod out there that does something similar. It’s also great for dealing with bug fixes provided by the community. In the long term, we hope this means people will do awesome new things with the Minecraft engine and play around with it. We want to buy and/or license good mods and/or total conversions and sell them ourselves. It’s possible we might have a mod marketplace for selling and buying mods that fans have written, or we might purchase and integrate nice mods that fit the main theme of Minecraft. [edit Just to clear up two things: The access cost won’t be prohibitively expensive, and if you make a good mod or something else based on the source code, it’s highly likely we will want to license it.)
He has since then not implemented Mod Support and briefly gone over the fact that it's still not implemented, even thou the community does more work in the world of MineCraft than his team does. Mod Support still not being implemented is the no1 reason I do not continue to play Minecraft. There are so many fantastic mods out there, but implementing them and then uninstalling them later becomes a big hassle. If there was proper mod support it would be fantastic. Notch has other concerns thou. From my understanding of it anyway. Notch is a start up man. More keen on his next project than his current. So hopefully he has hired the right staff to continue Minecraft in a good direction.
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On December 06 2011 10:05 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 10:01 Klondikebar wrote:On December 06 2011 09:53 killa_robot wrote:On December 06 2011 08:01 Latedi wrote:On December 06 2011 06:53 overt wrote:On December 06 2011 06:48 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money. thats the problem in the game industry. in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to. names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa. also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way . i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i hate much of what they done with sc2, hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else. I understand why most people don't choose to boycott EA/Activision but those two companies are, imo, ruining the video game industry. If people want shit to change you have to actually do something rather than complain about it on reddit or TL and send angry emails. Most of the people bitching about Origin and EA will probably end up buying Mass Effect 3 regardless. Most of the people who are mad about Activision laying off the guys at Infinity Ward, not putting LAN in SC2, and all of the other shenanigans that they pull will still buy the new Call of Duty or StarCraft expansion. You have to show companies that you're mad with your wallet not with your words. The answer is easy if you ask me :p PiracyJust download the games you want to play but are being made by some douche company and pay for games from studios you like. Don't give money to Blizzard, give it to indie developers or other companies which are not controlled by money Money is how businesses work, the only different between Indie developers and ones like Blizzard is that ones like Blizzard have the room to be an ass. If the Indie developer has even the smallest screw-up with how they treat their customers, no one will buy their product. The same can not be said for larger developers. Even if you do support the Indie developers, what then? The Indie ones which just eventually become the new Blizzard, and nothing will change. Money is what is corrupting the industry, those who have large amounts of money invested in the companies don't give a shit about you, they only care about the money, and unfortunately their influence holds a lot of weight. The worst part is that at the end of the PC gaming road, we won't see developers become nicer and give us what we want, we'll see them just abort PC gaming all together for the much safer consoles. Just to be clear, developers (like Blizzard) are often on our side. They're gamers too and they know how things work. Many of these terrible decisions come from publishers (in the Blizzard example that would be Activision) and even then it's mostly from upper management. Working in the corporate world has taught me that company officers can often be completely divorced from reality. Switch what I said to publishers then. Either way the source of the problem isn't really something we can do anything about. I don't actually have anything against Blizzard (though with shitty battle.net 2.0 and the story of SC2 so far they're well on their way), I was just continue to use his example rather than bothering to pick a new one.
Understood. I just think that we have a good reason to be throwing a tantrum right now, we shouldn't be throwing tantrums at the wrong people.
I can almost guarantee you that anything said by a developer is scripted and severely limited but their confidentiality agreements...(aka they have to say whatever they're told to say).
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In a strange way, I'm kind of excited to see this kind of thing going down. For the past five or so years, game publishers have been pushing a very thin and very important line where they, by the terms of their EULAs, can revoke players' access to games they've paid for, for no reason at all, and we've stood around and let it happen it on the understanding that they won't use that power.
Now that a major publisher is starting to go straight-up batshit insane and delete accounts left and right for not just suspicious but outright ridiculous reasons, I see an opportunity for some game-loving lawyer out there to kick them in the balls and take back our right to play the games we've paid for.
In fact, I'm anxiously waiting for someone to take EA's class action clause to the supreme court as unlawful - which I'm absolutely sure it must be - and then dismantle the rest of this absurd edifice.
Probably the most ironic thing is that the Gamers vs Origin Battle To End All Battles is going to have nothing to do with what players were most furious over at Origin's inception - its spyware component - but is in fact going to be fought over people's rights to use trollfaces as avatars on EA's own forum.
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As much as people think competition with Steam is a good thing, it certainly isn't good if it's coming from EA. I trust Valve and I don't trust EA. Looks like BF3 is going to be the first and last game I buy from Origin. Maybe even the last from EA.
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On December 06 2011 10:01 Klondikebar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2011 09:53 killa_robot wrote:On December 06 2011 08:01 Latedi wrote:On December 06 2011 06:53 overt wrote:On December 06 2011 06:48 BeMannerDuPenner wrote:On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money. thats the problem in the game industry. in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to. names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa. also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way . i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i hate much of what they done with sc2, hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else. I understand why most people don't choose to boycott EA/Activision but those two companies are, imo, ruining the video game industry. If people want shit to change you have to actually do something rather than complain about it on reddit or TL and send angry emails. Most of the people bitching about Origin and EA will probably end up buying Mass Effect 3 regardless. Most of the people who are mad about Activision laying off the guys at Infinity Ward, not putting LAN in SC2, and all of the other shenanigans that they pull will still buy the new Call of Duty or StarCraft expansion. You have to show companies that you're mad with your wallet not with your words. The answer is easy if you ask me :p PiracyJust download the games you want to play but are being made by some douche company and pay for games from studios you like. Don't give money to Blizzard, give it to indie developers or other companies which are not controlled by money Money is how businesses work, the only different between Indie developers and ones like Blizzard is that ones like Blizzard have the room to be an ass. If the Indie developer has even the smallest screw-up with how they treat their customers, no one will buy their product. The same can not be said for larger developers. Even if you do support the Indie developers, what then? The Indie ones which just eventually become the new Blizzard, and nothing will change. Money is what is corrupting the industry, those who have large amounts of money invested in the companies don't give a shit about you, they only care about the money, and unfortunately their influence holds a lot of weight. The worst part is that at the end of the PC gaming road, we won't see developers become nicer and give us what we want, we'll see them just abort PC gaming all together for the much safer consoles. Just to be clear, developers (like Blizzard) are often on our side. They're gamers too and they know how things work. Many of these terrible decisions come from publishers (in the Blizzard example that would be Activision) and even then it's mostly from upper management. Working in the corporate world has taught me that company officers can often be completely divorced from reality.
blizzard sure as fuck wasnt on my side over the last few years
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in summary, don't use the forums AT ALL. I wouldn't risk it, just don't post, don't even make a forum account if you don't have to (I wouldn't know, I barely own any EA games or any with origin). Seriously, I know EA is being a complete bitch about this but don't get involved if this doesn't personally concern you.
I hope EA shapes up, but then again I hope they go bankrupt because I've always hated EA.
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WOW... I thought Blizzard had some unjustified bans sometimes... but this is crazy. It sounds like EA is treating their customers like their 8 year old kid. Like when you're 8 and you say, "shit," because you heard it from that farmer kid you know and they take away your SNES which you got for Christmas for a week... but EA is doing it permanently and you didn't actually say the word, you were just near the kid that said it. You may be thinking that the aforementioned scenario involving a SNES happened to me... you may be right.
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On December 06 2011 10:12 Belisarius wrote: In a strange way, I'm kind of excited to see this kind of thing going down. For the past five or so years, game publishers have been pushing a very thin and very important line where they, by the terms of their EULAs, can revoke players' access to games they've paid for, for no reason at all, and we've stood around and let it happen it on the understanding that they won't use that power.
Now that a major publisher is starting to go straight-up batshit insane and delete accounts left and right for not just suspicious but outright ridiculous reasons, I see an opportunity for some game-loving lawyer out there to kick them in the balls and take back our right to play the games we've paid for.
In fact, I'm anxiously waiting for someone to take EA's class action clause to the supreme court as unlawful - which I'm absolutely sure it must be - and then dismantle the rest of this absurd edifice.
Probably the most ironic thing is that the Gamers vs Origin Battle To End All Battles is going to have nothing to do with what players were most furious over at Origin's inception - its spyware component - but is in fact going to be fought over people's rights to use trollfaces as avatars on EA's own forum.
I'm 95% certain that somewhere in that agreement we all press "I agree", there's a foot note about them having the power to revoke the game of anyone, and legally amputating your legs for science. They probably own your house ^_^
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On December 06 2011 00:23 bonifaceviii wrote: You know, banning people in-game for shitty forum posts on the company's website doesn't seem like a bad idea in theory.
In practice, though, I'm sure it's a nightmare.
This is the reality of the situation imo.
The idea that trolls are punished in consequential ways gives me warm fuzz feelings. Just imagine if games like LoL (MobA games have notoriously bad communities) could effectively deter ALL trolling. Game after game of polite and reasonable team efforts... heaven.
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wow seems pretty ridiculous
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