LOTR The Hobbit - Page 26
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Manit0u
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Tennet
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Hairy
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On May 01 2012 20:40 Tennet wrote: Clearly we all know CG is fake so.. why does it matter? When dealing with any kind of entertainment based upon fiction, there is a concept known as the suspension of disbelief. Essentially, people are quite happy to overlook certain implausibility, and do so effortlessly, as long as the world and people and actions people perform etc remain consistent to the fiction. I like Tolkien's explanation best: Tolkien says that, in order for the narrative to work, the reader must believe that what he reads is true within the secondary reality of the fictional world. By focusing on creating an internally consistent fictional world, the author makes secondary belief possible. Tolkien argues that suspension of disbelief is only necessary when the work has failed to create secondary belief. From that point the spell is broken, and the reader ceases to be immersed in the story and must make a conscious effort to suspend disbelief or else give up on it entirely. Anything that breaks the consistency of the world would therefore break the viewer's suspension of disbelief. Have you watched 'Alien'? How would you have felt if, at the end of the film, Ripley in her climactic battle with the alien had shouted a magic spell and turned the alien into a bunny rabbit? It might be ok if it were Gandalf fighting off an orc, but it is NOT ok for Ripley because it does not 'fit' with the created universe. The problem people have with the higher framerate is the same problem people have had in the past when films (and filming) have been getting higher and higher definition and quality. As film and TV technology got better, it became more and more obvious to the viewer that eg those pretty landscapes were actually just a cheap picture drawn on a background (eg look at original series star trek). Previously passable visuals become obviously fake, thus breaking the suspension of disbelief. This issue will continue be rear its head until films/games become perfect emulations of real life, plugged directly into our brains and so flawless that you cannot tell the difference between the fiction and the reality. Every single step along the way, though, will result in people complaining that the increased fidelity exposes the "fakeness" of a special effect, thus breaking the suspension of disbelief. Special effects must become better and better to stand up to the increased level of scrutiny possible by the audience. This increase in framerate from 24fps to 48fps is no different. That all said, I fully support the new shiny framerate! :D I can't wait to see the film. | ||
zocktol
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I am excited Source. | ||
Tennet
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Arkless
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On July 31 2012 00:50 zocktol wrote: So now it ill be three movies and include the whole Dol Guldur Story. I am excited Source. This news couldnt be any better =) | ||
Grettin
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ticklishmusic
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I just hope it won't get bogged down and turn off non-fans. | ||
elt
Thailand1092 Posts
Hobbit/LotR spoilers, I guess? + Show Spoiler + Another thing is how are they going to reconcile Sauron-as-Necromancer and the cinematic depiction of glowing red eye atop Barad-Dur. | ||
nbaker
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Kimaker
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On July 31 2012 01:14 elt wrote: Ugh. I thought The Hobbit by itself barely warranted the two movie treatment, but I honestly don't know how they're going to fill a third film. I think they risk a lot if they flesh out the events leading up to the attack on Dol Guldur, mostly because of the paucity of material. Hobbit/LotR spoilers, I guess? + Show Spoiler + Another thing is how are they going to reconcile Sauron-as-Necromancer and the cinematic depiction of glowing red eye atop Barad-Dur. I'd assume they'd reconcile it the same way they did when they transitioned from him being a towering fell warrior to him being a glowing red eye. "He just is. Deal with it"- Peter Jackson lol | ||
Trasko
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Liquid`Nazgul
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Coolness53
United States668 Posts
On July 31 2012 01:47 Liquid`Nazgul wrote: That could be pretty cool. Will have to see it to really say anything useful about it though. As long as the content is still relevant and stays true enough (I think LotR did a great job although we all have our minor bones to pick I'm sure) to the books there really can't be enough Tolkien based movies as far as I'm concerned. What they did with LotR was truly amazing and if they can pull that off again, hell film stories from the Silmarillion too! That was pretty amazing! To even get more films . | ||
r00ty
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MrHoon
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On July 31 2012 01:49 r00ty wrote: I just hope, it's an artist decision and not a business one... this is pretty much my biggest concern too But I still have faith in peter jackson! Unlike another certain trilogy maker | ||
GrimmJ
Canada131 Posts
On July 31 2012 01:57 MrHoon wrote: this is pretty much my biggest concern too But I still have faith in peter jackson! Unlike another certain trilogy maker The Rush Hour trilogy? | ||
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