On February 11 2012 21:08 Amui wrote: I personally think the dad is completely justified. Releasing it to the internet may affect her future negatively, but we'll see. I live in a household where respect is mutual. I know my dad is working 8 hours a day so I can go to school. I know my mom has a bad back, so I do as much of the chores as is reasonable, without complaint. Yeah I got yelled at, and grounded and spanked growing up, but it was all absolutely justified. Responsibility is something that needs to be taught all the way growing up.
Complaining about stuff is fine. You are absolutely allowed to express displeasure at having to do chores. Insulting parents as a byproduct of complaining is not. I made the mistake of doing that once, and for it I ended up walking 2 miles home.
Masochistic stockholm-syndrome victim.
But if you grow up getting beaten, it's hard to expect a child to not understand that it's wrong.
I took me quite a long time to figure that one out. You don't really get that other parents don't beat their children. its weird. Use of a gun was way too much naked violence to begin with. I don't understand how its acceptable include firearms in anyway or form into your relation with your children
On February 11 2012 21:08 Amui wrote: I personally think the dad is completely justified. Releasing it to the internet may affect her future negatively, but we'll see. I live in a household where respect is mutual. I know my dad is working 8 hours a day so I can go to school. I know my mom has a bad back, so I do as much of the chores as is reasonable, without complaint. Yeah I got yelled at, and grounded and spanked growing up, but it was all absolutely justified. Responsibility is something that needs to be taught all the way growing up.
Complaining about stuff is fine. You are absolutely allowed to express displeasure at having to do chores. Insulting parents as a byproduct of complaining is not. I made the mistake of doing that once, and for it I ended up walking 2 miles home.
Masochistic stockholm-syndrome victim.
But if you grow up getting beaten, it's hard to expect a child to not understand that it's wrong.
I took me quite a long time to figure that one out. You don't really get that other parents don't beat their children. its weird. Use of a gun was way too much naked violence to begin with. I don't understand how its acceptable include firearms in anyway or form into your relation with your children
I've noticed that the majority of the people from NA think this was the correct way to deal with it while its more split with the people from EU, fascinating.
What an idiotic way of disciplining your child, not only does he go off on a massive tantrum and shoot a laptop (who actually does something like that?), but he posts this on the internet for the whole world to see and on his daughters facebook page so all her friends can see. Now she will have to deal with not only losing her laptop but the fact that basically every single person she will come into contact with will know what happened. The guy clearly has no idea how to have a conversation with his daughter, instead resorting to such extreme behaviour that could end up causing his daughter to act up even more now.
My daughter thought it would be funny/rebellious/cool to post on her Facebook wall just how upset she was and how unfair her life here is; how we work her too hard with chores, never pay her for chores, and just in general make her life difficult.
She chose to share this with the entire world on Facebook and block her parent's from seeing it. Well, umm... she failed. As of the end of this video, she won't have to worry anymore about posting inappropriate things on Facebook...
Maybe a few kids can take something away from this... If you're so disrespectful to your parents and yourself as to post this kind of thing on Facebook, you're deserving of some tough love. Today, my daughter is getting a dose of tough love.
My own take is that the man is absolutely justified. If I have a kid who crosses the line, my hope is that I will have the courage to discipline them. Obviously, people are going to be talking about petty things + Show Spoiler +
like what he did to the laptop (i.e. could have given it away)
, but the main point is that the father took a strong stance against the entitlement attitudes of many of today's younger generation.
Also, the video clearly shows that the parents care deeply about their child + Show Spoiler +
(he mentioned that she eventually may only use a laptop when she goes to college)
. Clearly he cares enough to discipline her like this.
If he cared so much he wouldn't have made a video about this. It'll probably lead to her getting bullied at school and she gets marked for years to come. I really don't care if he wants to practise "tough love" but by creating this video he's done to her something that's 1000 times worse than what she did by talking shit on facebook. I wouldn't be suprised if this lead to her having to change schools for example.
It's difficult to gauge how their relationship is from a simple youtube video, but based on it alone it sounds like this was a recurring issue and noted by all her parents. Was he unable to communicate with his daughter correctly? I don't know for sure, but I think he was doing what he could to address the problems at hand. I don't think this is just some tantrum, he specifically says that the last time it happened he was going to put a bullet in it, and didn't. And I think he was perfectly within his right to put a round in the laptop. However, posting it on youtube isn't called for. As others have said, you shouldn't air your families dirty laundry in this manner.
I seriously would not be surprised if the kid just up 'n ran away. Anyone who treats another human being like the way this man is treating his daughter has some seriously screwed up prejudices.
Edit: I just read the comments and saw people didn't grab his sarcasm on youtube - unless I see it wrongly it's sarcasm. This guy sums up my thoughts - why the fuck do you need to use your gun to teach your kid a lesson. Seriously. Wether or not it's neccesary to discipline a whining teenager on facebook teenagers are oftenly not happy with their parents. It's part of puberty and growing apart from your parents.
I can't do much about this anyway and it's not like he's harming as in hitting her so I'll just see the father as a dumb redneck and move on.
Is that really the way to handle family issues nowadays? I mean, really? Of course whining about your parents on facebook is disrespectful - that's the whole point of it! Now, I don't know if she really is a spoiled brat or actually has to do a little too much at home, but I really think there are better ways to solve issues like this - how about, you know, talking to each other?
Granted, I guess it might be impossible to reason with a teenage girl (I am not a parent, so I have no experience on the matter), but to shoot her laptop and post it on youtube is just dumb. While stupid, I do not really mind the fact that he destroyed the computer (how he destroyed it doesn't matter), but making it into a bloody Youtube video... really?
I mean yeah, the girl's facebook is still quite public, but noone is going to raise an eyebrow over a girl whining about chores at home. This video? Just look at how many views it has and we, on bloody TL, are discussing it.
In terms of misusing the internet, the dad is the one who takes it too far. The rest is a family matter and not one that I, who live in Sweden, should be aware of.
On February 11 2012 22:41 Bojas wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0K-X4DwRxPc&f Edit: I just read the comments and saw people didn't grab his sarcasm on youtube - unless I see it wrongly it's sarcasm. This guy sums up my thoughts - why the fuck do you need to use your gun to teach your kid a lesson. Seriously. Wether or not it's neccesary to discipline a whining teenager on facebook teenagers are oftenly not happy with their parents. It's part of puberty and growing apart from your parents.
I can't do much about this anyway and it's not like he's harming as in hitting her so I'll just see the father as a dumb redneck and move on.
Yes he was obviously sarcastic. Either a lot of parents don't have a sense of humor or they are used to shooting up their kids stuff with guns.
Though the gun wasn't really what I took out of the orgininal video.
Jesus christ I say. Some families....wow. This father is a complete lunatic. That child's life will probably be fucked up for the rest of it and those 2 will never have a healthy relationship. This is just.....so wrong.
There's complaining about your parents and there's being a total bitch like this 15 year old was. I don't quite agree with shooting the laptop but hell if he has enough money that he doesn't care, then why should I. The moralists calling this guy stupid for shooting the laptop, kinda disturb me. He's grounding his daughter for being a self-entitled brat who thinks her parents work for her. He needs that laptop to disappear and if he chooses to shoot it then that's his cup of tea.
P1 Parents ground girl for being disrespectful P2 Parents tell girl if she's disrespectful again, her punishment will be more severe P3 Girl is disrespectful again C1 Parents punish her for it
This guy said he'd do something and he did it. Sure, we may not like how he handled the disposing of the laptop, but it's his property. Who cares. What's the point of being all like: "omg u used a gun yur dumb."
I agree with Plexa's point on making this public; there's no need to make you family matters so.