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Canada3609 Posts
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Schlootle
United States54 Posts
Not to mention at least this guy didn't spank or "beat" his daughter for this, but took away her privileges which Im sure she can earn back soon enough if she would just show an attempt at bettering her attitude and personality. | ||
OpticalShot
Canada6330 Posts
In other words, I think this $750 incident may have saved his daughter thousands and even millions later in her life. | ||
fidelity
Sweden410 Posts
On March 16 2012 02:39 Dekoth wrote: Spoken like someone who doesn't have kids.. If you had watched the video, you would have noted that it was clear that he "Had" sat down and discussed things like this before. This was yet another step in apparently a continued escalation of punishments since all previous punishments had failed to take effect. I hate to break it to some of you, but at a certain point if 1 form of punishment is failing to be effective, you have to step it up to the next level. Continuing to use the same punishment when it has proven ineffective results in shitty disrespectful kids who turn into shitty disrespectful adults. I never understood until I had children the statement "This hurts me more than it hurts you" that my parents gave right before spanking my ass. However after having children, to became clear. There is nothing worse than having to punish your children when all you want is for them to do the right thing. However hating doing it does not eliminate the need to do so. Sometimes, there is just no substitute for applying foot to ass. I'm sorry if your parents physically abused you(which is what they did), but there's no moral or sensible reason to spank your kids. It feels weird even having to argue for not hitting kids. | ||
uLysSeS1
Germany210 Posts
great man, just great. | ||
Sea_Food
Finland1612 Posts
All that while 15 years old. YEP! | ||
HyperLink
Canada172 Posts
On March 16 2012 04:19 Sea_Food wrote: "When I was your age, I had moved out of the house, lived on my own, went to college while in highschool, working 2 jobs, was a voulanteer fireman and still went to school." All that while 15 years old. YEP! He forgot "walked up hill both ways". While I'm not a parent, publicly shaming your child will not bring a resolution to the conflict in the slightest. | ||
NEOtheONE
United States2233 Posts
On March 16 2012 03:56 fidelity wrote: I'm sorry if your parents physically abused you(which is what they did), but there's no moral or sensible reason to spank your kids. It feels weird even having to argue for not hitting kids. Good thing it's not in your job description to call DCFS or CPS because you clearly have a poor understanding of what constitutes as child abuse. For those of us, like me, who will have to report to DCFS and CPS, we make darn sure that we have sufficient suspicision that meets the legal criteria to report before doing so because being sued for malpractice does not boad well. Honestly, the dad had every right to do what he did. Now was it the best idea, certainly not. Was it epic regardless? Yes. However, he has to live with the fact that he is going to be remembered as the dad that shot a laptop to teach his daughter a lesson. | ||
Borsek
18 Posts
Shooting the laptop? As always, americans going overboard. I was similar when I was her age, and the reason was simple, I was spoiled to a certain age, then I suddenly had to start doing things (and quite a lot more than her). It's a shock as your way of life changes, and that's why she's whining. It seems obvious to me that this was the case with her, as the father mentioned her mother and stepmother - he got divorced, that's the first shock for the child. The parents then in most cases silently compete who's the 'better parent' and throw money and gifts at their child. Once they find out they've spoiled the child, they try to suddenly enforce a stop to what was until that moment considered acceptable behavior by the child. This leads to lots of disciplining and/or serious talks and so on, depending on the parents, of course. In other words, the fact that she acted the way she did is the parents' fault. Children learn by example (as in behave in a way similar to the parents), not by what you say. Her father threw a tantrum, just like she did, which, subconsciously, will make her do similar irrational over-the-top things in the future. Not the way I would have done things if I were the dad, but in the end it's his own property he's destroying and his own child to raise. I still +1 him for not physically punishing her, but I doubt such extreme actions will make her a better person. | ||
Yoduh
United States216 Posts
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Yoduh
United States216 Posts
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
This happened a month ago, and is basically fizzled among the internetz. Either way, they're both badass. The kid for + Show Spoiler + not giving a fuck And the dad for + Show Spoiler + shooting the laptop in the middle of a field!! | ||
Grumbels
Netherlands7028 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:19 Keitzer wrote: Soo... why was this bumped? This happened a month ago, and is basically fizzled among the internetz. Either way, they're both badass. The kid for + Show Spoiler + not giving a fuck And the dad for + Show Spoiler + shooting the laptop in the middle of a field!! Maybe someone linked to this thread in another thread. :o | ||
-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On March 16 2012 07:16 Yoduh wrote: And going back and reading a lot of comments it seems like most people here haven't read the interview and only watched the video. How is he an asshole for shooting his daughters laptop? It's the laptop HE paid for, and it's what she used to publicly disrespect him. Seriously, read the interview, everything he says makes sense. The part about learning the value of a dollar totally justifies why he did what he did. Can anyone say that receiving something you didn't earn instills good values in yourself? She didn't even care that much that her laptop was destroyed, she was more upset about not having access to facebook. Ridiculous. She deserved everything her dad did and I bet she learned a good lesson. Because it is not nice to take back a gift given, and to do so only to destroy the gift is horrible. Doing it in a violent manner can be felt as threatening by the previous recipient of the gift, though whether it was in this case is debatable. Kids complaining on facebook about their chores is not going to have any effect on how that man is viewed so it is no more disrespectful than making the same complaints to friends in person - which he cannot detect to punish - and will have no lasting effect upon him. How does watching someone get angry, then destroy an expensive thing instill positive values? If you give a child a gift, and actually make them look after it, they may not learn the dollar value of things or how to work hard for what they want but they do learn to take care of their possessions and all the skills related. If you regard the child's possession of anything not overtly dangerous as real, then they will be able to allow themselves to care more about it. Those are good values too. | ||
Dekoth
United States527 Posts
On March 16 2012 03:56 fidelity wrote: I'm sorry if your parents physically abused you(which is what they did), but there's no moral or sensible reason to spank your kids. It feels weird even having to argue for not hitting kids. Actually, spanking is not abuse. You need to learn the difference between spanking and beating. I am not going to get into a debate over it with you as you are either too young to understand the realities of raising children or too idealistic. Either way, do the world a favor and don't breed, the last thing we need is more undisciplined brats throwing tantrums in public. While spanking should almost never be a first resort, it isn't something to eliminate entirely. Some kids (I happened to be one of them), don't respond to anything else. All that said, I was talking about the form of punishment he chose and responding to those calling it over the top and acting like nothing else had been tried before. So good job at missing the entire point so you could push your idiotic anti-spanking agenda. | ||
-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On March 16 2012 22:09 Dekoth wrote: Actually, spanking is not abuse. You need to learn the difference between spanking and beating. I am not going to get into a debate over it with you as you are either too young to understand the realities of raising children or too idealistic. Either way, do the world a favor and don't breed, the last thing we need is more undisciplined brats throwing tantrums in public. While spanking should almost never be a first resort, it isn't something to eliminate entirely. Some kids (I happened to be one of them), don't respond to anything else. All that said, I was talking about the form of punishment he chose and responding to those calling it over the top and acting like nothing else had been tried before. So good job at missing the entire point so you could push your idiotic anti-spanking agenda. As someone raised in a family where no physical violence was ever considered acceptable by any member against any member, I am completely unclear as to where physically hitting a child constitutes spanking and where it constitutes abuse. Would you care to enlighten me? | ||
Mementoss
Canada2595 Posts
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firehand101
Australia3152 Posts
On February 11 2012 12:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Not gonna watch video, dont feel like getting annoyed at how retarded this person obviously is. Teenagers have whined about their parents ever since the word 'teenager' was invented, and whining on facebook is not different from whining to friends -- haha using time very efficiently; love it man! | ||
-_-Quails
Australia796 Posts
On March 16 2012 22:19 Mementoss wrote: Yeah, my mom used to spank me too. I don't think it is the best method per sae, and probably won't use it when I have childen. But I don't consider it abuse or my mom beating me. What do you consider to have distinguished your treatment from physical abuse? | ||
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