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This is SOOO awesome.
"Do this shit again and I will put a bullet through your laptop"
She does it again. He puts a bullet through her laptop.
She makes a huge public deal about her chores.
He makes a huge public deal about her being grounded.
No physical abuse, yet a lesson she will never forget.
I like this. And it is hilarious how hard he is trying not to rage in the video.
Edit: Just reading through some comments, oh god.
On February 11 2012 13:39 Carapas wrote: LOL, it seems that both of them don't get it at all. I mean the girl seems to be so fucking lazy. But, I think the dad's reaction is the worst you could do... I mean at some point teenagers will always question authorities and that's standard, you don't need to go shoot at a fucking laptop to prove your ''adult point of view''. We could compare the situation to the Syria situation, where the dictator feels he losing the control of his population and then proceeds to kill everybody, definitely not the best way to maintain control in an healthy climate. At least, some teenager girls will be taught a lesson about facebook with this video (at least I hope).
Are you serious? This is nothing like a dictator killing people. First of all, dictators have illegitimate power, where as parents have legitimate power, it is their child after all. Oh, and nobody is dying.
Sorry to get a little off topic, but guys (and this happens in all controversial discussions), metaphors are not perfect substitutes. Using a metaphor is a great way to help people understand, or see things from a different point of view, but when you use logic inside the metaphor, then apply the same logic in the same way to the real situation, you lose all validity of the logic.
This wouldn't be the worst thing in the forum if it weren't for the compounding effects of arguments. People see the broken as shit comparison and misapplied logic, and that becomes the point of discussion. Either about the logic applied within the metaphor and its logical implications, and the accompanying moral/political bull shit, and disagreements about the actual metaphor as a representation of the actual topic.
So stop it. Stop with the crazy ass metaphors. The relationship between a parent and a child compared to a dictator and those he rules goes no further than one group has some power over the other. And therefore, reasoning in the comparison should go no deeper. That is to say, don't fucking do it.
One day I will get around to writing a blog about just how topics are derailed and discussions ruined in web forums (ironically, something that this very post is doing... Sorry ). Maybe for my 200th or 250th post.
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Bravo to this guy, this was so well deserved. From what was described by the father, this whiny girl really needed a boot up her ass.. This is the way to do it.
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On February 11 2012 13:57 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I love ironic punishment. It's the best method of punishment. This girl went a little too far, lying about "how horrible her life was" and disrespecting her parents in front of, well, every fucking person she knows on facebook, which should be over a hundred or more if she had that account for any period of time. So he got rid of her laptop in a creative and hilarious fashion. Keep in mind this is, for all intensive puposes, what would have happened in a "normal" household. The laptop would have been taken away and the child would have gotten a stern talking to. He just decided to get creative to drive the lesson home. He's also obviously had to deal with her a lot before now, as he said himself. Completely justified, in my opinion. anach, provide proof that everything she said was untrue, and that everything he said was accurate representation of the facts. this just in: People lie. politicians do it, especially if maligned, (read the india thread where a politician tries to lie about what he was watchign on his phone to look better). he has all the reason in the world to call his daughter a liar when she levels such accusations at him publicly, shaming him. My point is, we have no proof either party is telling the truth. People lie for social gains, or to prevent social loss. He has reason to lie, and she doesn't. Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:54 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:52 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:46 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote: [quote]
Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion.
Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did.
Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote: [quote]
Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion.
Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did.
Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... Legally, minors are "owned" by their parents. Nothing "scary" about it. On February 11 2012 13:45 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:33 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:31 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:25 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:22 Chilling5pr33 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 11 2012 13:08 Chilling5pr33 wrote: Its totally stupid to destroy something of value to teach the child a lesson... They failed teaching her daughter a lesson by conversations and so they moved on to destroy her property, this doesnt seem logical to me... She had already some pretty strict punishment wich might be overreacted in the first place, so she thought she needs to get revenge, now the father thinks he has to step it up once more... In the end this helps absolutely no one. The father might get her a new laptop at some point and some of earth recources get wasted once again bravo bravo... destroy her property On February 11 2012 13:09 Candadar wrote: Pretty sure it was the Father's property, considering he bought it. Well either he gave it to her as a gift, wich would result in a change of ownerchip. Or he is an even bigger idiot destroying his own laptop as an result of her misbehavior. That's not quite how the father/child relationship works. The parent has the right to take shit away, especially if they bought it. If they bought it, they can also destroy it. Also, that was rather funny though. "You'll have to pay me back for these bullets." Yep i get what you say but consider it was a chrismas or birthday gift... In that case its actually changing the owner after that. Still you can take it away but its still the property of them in a way... In my opinion its wrong to use material stuff to parent a child anyway. I would love to hear the actual reasoning behind how what a parent buys for a child is now the childs property in a way equal to the child purchasing it themselves. Dont you split hairs here? I mean isnt a gift a gift no matter how old the person is you give it to. I would not give my kids a present and say to them: "here is a thing you can use till i change my mind or you loose the right to use it". I would tell them "its yours now, you can do whatever you want with it." I actually dont get what you care so much about this. Just read the definition of gift. A gift is a gift no matter how old, however, there is a difference between giving something to your child, and giving something to your buddy or whatever. If you give something to your child, something you yourself paid for, you reserve the right to take it away from them. Hell, you can legally take gifts away from friends even you gave shit to if you really wanted to go through the hoops and lose your friends over it. Rambling on now, but you get my point. You're comparing a social idea between two separate entities. Parents and their children are not, and should not be treated as equals. Man you really get scary to me. I cant say how much i disagree here. ...Because I say minors are not equal to their parents and should not be treated as such in our social strata? On February 11 2012 13:47 Spieltor wrote: I suppose Im being trolled. The second someone deems it necessary to say the equivalent of "lol troll" in an intellectual argument is the second I stop caring about anything they have to say on the matter. =/ yep, Im glad it'll end here then, because you're explicitly stating people have OWNERship over children as if theyre furniture, which is patently untrue .
Spieltor, provide proof everything she said was true. She has a reason to lie as well, you know. Also, at least in this country, parents do own their children legally. It's not like furniture or anything, so he doesn't have the right to abuse her and he can have his "ownership" (that word just doesn't fit the context here) revoked if he is bad at it. Legally, children are owned by parents. Legally, children have very little rights. Socially, it isn't viewed as such and never abused in a horrible manner due to the checks in place, but legally, parents own children and all their property.
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On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns.
Ok, so you want to throw away the last 2000 years of human history on this planet? Slavery is owning people as property. And the girl is a minor, thus her rights have not been granted yet; still under care by parents. That is why we have to declare matriculation for a purpose.
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On February 11 2012 14:05 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:57 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I love ironic punishment. It's the best method of punishment. This girl went a little too far, lying about "how horrible her life was" and disrespecting her parents in front of, well, every fucking person she knows on facebook, which should be over a hundred or more if she had that account for any period of time. So he got rid of her laptop in a creative and hilarious fashion. Keep in mind this is, for all intensive puposes, what would have happened in a "normal" household. The laptop would have been taken away and the child would have gotten a stern talking to. He just decided to get creative to drive the lesson home. He's also obviously had to deal with her a lot before now, as he said himself. Completely justified, in my opinion. anach, provide proof that everything she said was untrue, and that everything he said was accurate representation of the facts. this just in: People lie. politicians do it, especially if maligned, (read the india thread where a politician tries to lie about what he was watchign on his phone to look better). he has all the reason in the world to call his daughter a liar when she levels such accusations at him publicly, shaming him. My point is, we have no proof either party is telling the truth. People lie for social gains, or to prevent social loss. He has reason to lie, and she doesn't. On February 11 2012 13:54 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:52 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:46 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote: [quote]
dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote: [quote]
Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... Legally, minors are "owned" by their parents. Nothing "scary" about it. On February 11 2012 13:45 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:33 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:31 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:25 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:22 Chilling5pr33 wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On February 11 2012 13:08 Chilling5pr33 wrote: Its totally stupid to destroy something of value to teach the child a lesson... They failed teaching her daughter a lesson by conversations and so they moved on to destroy her property, this doesnt seem logical to me... She had already some pretty strict punishment wich might be overreacted in the first place, so she thought she needs to get revenge, now the father thinks he has to step it up once more... In the end this helps absolutely no one. The father might get her a new laptop at some point and some of earth recources get wasted once again bravo bravo... destroy her property [quote] Well either he gave it to her as a gift, wich would result in a change of ownerchip. Or he is an even bigger idiot destroying his own laptop as an result of her misbehavior. That's not quite how the father/child relationship works. The parent has the right to take shit away, especially if they bought it. If they bought it, they can also destroy it. Also, that was rather funny though. "You'll have to pay me back for these bullets." Yep i get what you say but consider it was a chrismas or birthday gift... In that case its actually changing the owner after that. Still you can take it away but its still the property of them in a way... In my opinion its wrong to use material stuff to parent a child anyway. I would love to hear the actual reasoning behind how what a parent buys for a child is now the childs property in a way equal to the child purchasing it themselves. Dont you split hairs here? I mean isnt a gift a gift no matter how old the person is you give it to. I would not give my kids a present and say to them: "here is a thing you can use till i change my mind or you loose the right to use it". I would tell them "its yours now, you can do whatever you want with it." I actually dont get what you care so much about this. Just read the definition of gift. A gift is a gift no matter how old, however, there is a difference between giving something to your child, and giving something to your buddy or whatever. If you give something to your child, something you yourself paid for, you reserve the right to take it away from them. Hell, you can legally take gifts away from friends even you gave shit to if you really wanted to go through the hoops and lose your friends over it. Rambling on now, but you get my point. You're comparing a social idea between two separate entities. Parents and their children are not, and should not be treated as equals. Man you really get scary to me. I cant say how much i disagree here. ...Because I say minors are not equal to their parents and should not be treated as such in our social strata? On February 11 2012 13:47 Spieltor wrote: I suppose Im being trolled. The second someone deems it necessary to say the equivalent of "lol troll" in an intellectual argument is the second I stop caring about anything they have to say on the matter. =/ yep, Im glad it'll end here then, because you're explicitly stating people have OWNERship over children as if theyre furniture, which is patently untrue . Spieltor, provide proof everything she said was true. She has a reason to lie as well, you know. Also, at least in this country, parents do own their children legally. It's not like furniture or anything, so he doesn't have the right to abuse her and he can have his "ownership" (that word just doesn't fit the context here) revoked if he is bad at it. Legally, children are owned by parents. Legally, children have very little rights. Socially, it isn't viewed as such and never abused in a horrible manner due to the checks in place, but legally, parents own children and all their property.
that is not true. they have authority over them, but do not own them. also, they cannot take something that is the property of the children. There was this little thing called children's rights, which became a big deal in the early 1900's due to factory conditions. I suggest you reasearch this.
On February 11 2012 14:05 amazingxkcd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Ok, so you want to throw away the last 2000 years of human history on this planet? Slavery is owning people as property. And the girl is a minor, thus her rights have not been granted yet; still under care by parents. That is why we have to declare matriculation for a purpose.
that doesn't make her property. The fact that slaves existed in history has nothing to do with children or ownership of children.
rights not granted as a full adult doesn't mean NO RIGHTS. How does slavery have anything to do at all with children? Thats like saying 1+1= banana. I'm done with this because im absolutely certain people cannot seriously use "total logic disconnects" and not be trolling.
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On February 11 2012 14:13 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:05 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:57 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I love ironic punishment. It's the best method of punishment. This girl went a little too far, lying about "how horrible her life was" and disrespecting her parents in front of, well, every fucking person she knows on facebook, which should be over a hundred or more if she had that account for any period of time. So he got rid of her laptop in a creative and hilarious fashion. Keep in mind this is, for all intensive puposes, what would have happened in a "normal" household. The laptop would have been taken away and the child would have gotten a stern talking to. He just decided to get creative to drive the lesson home. He's also obviously had to deal with her a lot before now, as he said himself. Completely justified, in my opinion. anach, provide proof that everything she said was untrue, and that everything he said was accurate representation of the facts. this just in: People lie. politicians do it, especially if maligned, (read the india thread where a politician tries to lie about what he was watchign on his phone to look better). he has all the reason in the world to call his daughter a liar when she levels such accusations at him publicly, shaming him. My point is, we have no proof either party is telling the truth. People lie for social gains, or to prevent social loss. He has reason to lie, and she doesn't. On February 11 2012 13:54 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:52 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:46 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote: [quote]
Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means.
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If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless.
My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:[quote] I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... Legally, minors are "owned" by their parents. Nothing "scary" about it. On February 11 2012 13:45 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:33 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:31 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:25 Candadar wrote: [quote]
That's not quite how the father/child relationship works. The parent has the right to take shit away, especially if they bought it. If they bought it, they can also destroy it. Also, that was rather funny though. "You'll have to pay me back for these bullets." Yep i get what you say but consider it was a chrismas or birthday gift... In that case its actually changing the owner after that. Still you can take it away but its still the property of them in a way... In my opinion its wrong to use material stuff to parent a child anyway. I would love to hear the actual reasoning behind how what a parent buys for a child is now the childs property in a way equal to the child purchasing it themselves. Dont you split hairs here? I mean isnt a gift a gift no matter how old the person is you give it to. I would not give my kids a present and say to them: "here is a thing you can use till i change my mind or you loose the right to use it". I would tell them "its yours now, you can do whatever you want with it." I actually dont get what you care so much about this. Just read the definition of gift. A gift is a gift no matter how old, however, there is a difference between giving something to your child, and giving something to your buddy or whatever. If you give something to your child, something you yourself paid for, you reserve the right to take it away from them. Hell, you can legally take gifts away from friends even you gave shit to if you really wanted to go through the hoops and lose your friends over it. Rambling on now, but you get my point. You're comparing a social idea between two separate entities. Parents and their children are not, and should not be treated as equals. Man you really get scary to me. I cant say how much i disagree here. ...Because I say minors are not equal to their parents and should not be treated as such in our social strata? On February 11 2012 13:47 Spieltor wrote: I suppose Im being trolled. The second someone deems it necessary to say the equivalent of "lol troll" in an intellectual argument is the second I stop caring about anything they have to say on the matter. =/ yep, Im glad it'll end here then, because you're explicitly stating people have OWNERship over children as if theyre furniture, which is patently untrue . Spieltor, provide proof everything she said was true. She has a reason to lie as well, you know. Also, at least in this country, parents do own their children legally. It's not like furniture or anything, so he doesn't have the right to abuse her and he can have his "ownership" (that word just doesn't fit the context here) revoked if he is bad at it. Legally, children are owned by parents. Legally, children have very little rights. Socially, it isn't viewed as such and never abused in a horrible manner due to the checks in place, but legally, parents own children and all their property. that is not true. they have authority over them, but do not own them. also, they cannot take something that is the property of the children. There was this little thing called children's rights, which became a big deal in the early 1900's due to factory conditions. I suggest you reasearch this. Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:05 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Ok, so you want to throw away the last 2000 years of human history on this planet? Slavery is owning people as property. And the girl is a minor, thus her rights have not been granted yet; still under care by parents. That is why we have to declare matriculation for a purpose. that doesn't make her property. The fact that slaves existed in history has nothing to do with children or ownership of children. rights not granted as a full adult doesn't mean NO RIGHTS. How does slavery have anything to do at all with children? Thats like saying 1+1= banana. there has been child slaves within the last 2000 years. You are still going to deny that?
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On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Hey, im that guy you talked about the property.
children are like property of parents, but because of this the law protects them.
for example mandatory school you must feed you children child abuse is illegal. you cannot kill them
however, for purposes like this, they can be considered your property. and if your property has a laptop you put their, you can shoot it with a gun.
also, it isnt stealing if the dad takes it. ofcourse you cant steal. idealism<reality of the law. the school can punish students because the law says they act as parents during the school day. therefore, the school can do something like go on her facebook and take away her laptop too, albeit less extreme.
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As another example for this post...
Slavery is a great example of a shitty comparison to the OP, as well as demonstrating how a mis-comparison raises two new, useless, unrelated discussions.
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On February 11 2012 14:14 amazingxkcd wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:13 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 14:05 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:57 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I love ironic punishment. It's the best method of punishment. This girl went a little too far, lying about "how horrible her life was" and disrespecting her parents in front of, well, every fucking person she knows on facebook, which should be over a hundred or more if she had that account for any period of time. So he got rid of her laptop in a creative and hilarious fashion. Keep in mind this is, for all intensive puposes, what would have happened in a "normal" household. The laptop would have been taken away and the child would have gotten a stern talking to. He just decided to get creative to drive the lesson home. He's also obviously had to deal with her a lot before now, as he said himself. Completely justified, in my opinion. anach, provide proof that everything she said was untrue, and that everything he said was accurate representation of the facts. this just in: People lie. politicians do it, especially if maligned, (read the india thread where a politician tries to lie about what he was watchign on his phone to look better). he has all the reason in the world to call his daughter a liar when she levels such accusations at him publicly, shaming him. My point is, we have no proof either party is telling the truth. People lie for social gains, or to prevent social loss. He has reason to lie, and she doesn't. On February 11 2012 13:54 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:52 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:46 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:[quote] I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: [quote] Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... Legally, minors are "owned" by their parents. Nothing "scary" about it. On February 11 2012 13:45 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:33 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:31 Chilling5pr33 wrote: [quote]
Yep i get what you say but consider it was a chrismas or birthday gift... In that case its actually changing the owner after that. Still you can take it away but its still the property of them in a way...
In my opinion its wrong to use material stuff to parent a child anyway.
I would love to hear the actual reasoning behind how what a parent buys for a child is now the childs property in a way equal to the child purchasing it themselves. Dont you split hairs here? I mean isnt a gift a gift no matter how old the person is you give it to. I would not give my kids a present and say to them: "here is a thing you can use till i change my mind or you loose the right to use it". I would tell them "its yours now, you can do whatever you want with it." I actually dont get what you care so much about this. Just read the definition of gift. A gift is a gift no matter how old, however, there is a difference between giving something to your child, and giving something to your buddy or whatever. If you give something to your child, something you yourself paid for, you reserve the right to take it away from them. Hell, you can legally take gifts away from friends even you gave shit to if you really wanted to go through the hoops and lose your friends over it. Rambling on now, but you get my point. You're comparing a social idea between two separate entities. Parents and their children are not, and should not be treated as equals. Man you really get scary to me. I cant say how much i disagree here. ...Because I say minors are not equal to their parents and should not be treated as such in our social strata? On February 11 2012 13:47 Spieltor wrote: I suppose Im being trolled. The second someone deems it necessary to say the equivalent of "lol troll" in an intellectual argument is the second I stop caring about anything they have to say on the matter. =/ yep, Im glad it'll end here then, because you're explicitly stating people have OWNERship over children as if theyre furniture, which is patently untrue . Spieltor, provide proof everything she said was true. She has a reason to lie as well, you know. Also, at least in this country, parents do own their children legally. It's not like furniture or anything, so he doesn't have the right to abuse her and he can have his "ownership" (that word just doesn't fit the context here) revoked if he is bad at it. Legally, children are owned by parents. Legally, children have very little rights. Socially, it isn't viewed as such and never abused in a horrible manner due to the checks in place, but legally, parents own children and all their property. that is not true. they have authority over them, but do not own them. also, they cannot take something that is the property of the children. There was this little thing called children's rights, which became a big deal in the early 1900's due to factory conditions. I suggest you reasearch this. On February 11 2012 14:05 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote: [quote]
This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age.
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Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote: [quote]
This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age.
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Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Ok, so you want to throw away the last 2000 years of human history on this planet? Slavery is owning people as property. And the girl is a minor, thus her rights have not been granted yet; still under care by parents. That is why we have to declare matriculation for a purpose. that doesn't make her property. The fact that slaves existed in history has nothing to do with children or ownership of children. rights not granted as a full adult doesn't mean NO RIGHTS. How does slavery have anything to do at all with children? Thats like saying 1+1= banana. there has been child slaves within the last 2000 years. You are still going to deny that?
I didn't deny history anywhere. Slavery is illegal where this person lives. Therefore his child cannot be his "slave", therefore he does not own his child as property. You brought up child slavery to muddy the waters of this debate for no reason except to annoy people.
But ask me one more time if I'll deny it and sure I'll start denying child slavery has existed in history.
On February 11 2012 14:15 Bippzy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Hey, im that guy you talked about the property. children are like property of parents, but because of this the law protects them. for example mandatory school you must feed you children child abuse is illegal. you cannot kill them however, for purposes like this, they can be considered your property. and if your property has a laptop you put their, you can shoot it with a gun. also, it isnt stealing if the dad takes it. ofcourse you cant steal. idealism<reality of the law. the school can punish students because the law says they act as parents during the school day. therefore, the school can do something like go on her facebook and take away her laptop too, albeit less extreme.
the law doesnt protect them because they are property. the law protects them because they are PEOPLE, and PEOPLE cannot be owned, under law. Just because they don't have full adult rights, and just because their parents have authority does not mean their parents own their children and their children's possessions.
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On February 11 2012 14:17 Vilonis wrote:As another example for this post...Slavery is a great example of a shitty comparison to the OP, as well as demonstrating how a mis-comparison raises two new, useless, unrelated discussions. its my bad, i just stated the daughter is the fathers property which is true to an extent, and then slavery discussion happened. its my bad. atleast now we dont have to listen to people saying they think the dad is a psycho, or id have to post more.
edit: its my bad for saying its my bad so much and i really just want to say its my bad for that, too. :D
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Without knowing anything about the girl, I'd say he got emotional and over-reacted. Sometimes you have to stop calm down.
But then again, knowing how bitchy/disrespectful girls of that age can get, maybe what he did was perfectly correct.
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On February 11 2012 14:19 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 11 2012 14:13 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 14:05 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:57 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I love ironic punishment. It's the best method of punishment. This girl went a little too far, lying about "how horrible her life was" and disrespecting her parents in front of, well, every fucking person she knows on facebook, which should be over a hundred or more if she had that account for any period of time. So he got rid of her laptop in a creative and hilarious fashion. Keep in mind this is, for all intensive puposes, what would have happened in a "normal" household. The laptop would have been taken away and the child would have gotten a stern talking to. He just decided to get creative to drive the lesson home. He's also obviously had to deal with her a lot before now, as he said himself. Completely justified, in my opinion. anach, provide proof that everything she said was untrue, and that everything he said was accurate representation of the facts. this just in: People lie. politicians do it, especially if maligned, (read the india thread where a politician tries to lie about what he was watchign on his phone to look better). he has all the reason in the world to call his daughter a liar when she levels such accusations at him publicly, shaming him. My point is, we have no proof either party is telling the truth. People lie for social gains, or to prevent social loss. He has reason to lie, and she doesn't. On February 11 2012 13:54 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:52 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:46 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote: [quote]
I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... Legally, minors are "owned" by their parents. Nothing "scary" about it. On February 11 2012 13:45 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:33 Candadar wrote: [quote]
I would love to hear the actual reasoning behind how what a parent buys for a child is now the childs property in a way equal to the child purchasing it themselves. Dont you split hairs here? I mean isnt a gift a gift no matter how old the person is you give it to. I would not give my kids a present and say to them: "here is a thing you can use till i change my mind or you loose the right to use it". I would tell them "its yours now, you can do whatever you want with it." I actually dont get what you care so much about this. Just read the definition of gift. A gift is a gift no matter how old, however, there is a difference between giving something to your child, and giving something to your buddy or whatever. If you give something to your child, something you yourself paid for, you reserve the right to take it away from them. Hell, you can legally take gifts away from friends even you gave shit to if you really wanted to go through the hoops and lose your friends over it. Rambling on now, but you get my point. You're comparing a social idea between two separate entities. Parents and their children are not, and should not be treated as equals. Man you really get scary to me. I cant say how much i disagree here. ...Because I say minors are not equal to their parents and should not be treated as such in our social strata? On February 11 2012 13:47 Spieltor wrote: I suppose Im being trolled. The second someone deems it necessary to say the equivalent of "lol troll" in an intellectual argument is the second I stop caring about anything they have to say on the matter. =/ yep, Im glad it'll end here then, because you're explicitly stating people have OWNERship over children as if theyre furniture, which is patently untrue . Spieltor, provide proof everything she said was true. She has a reason to lie as well, you know. Also, at least in this country, parents do own their children legally. It's not like furniture or anything, so he doesn't have the right to abuse her and he can have his "ownership" (that word just doesn't fit the context here) revoked if he is bad at it. Legally, children are owned by parents. Legally, children have very little rights. Socially, it isn't viewed as such and never abused in a horrible manner due to the checks in place, but legally, parents own children and all their property. that is not true. they have authority over them, but do not own them. also, they cannot take something that is the property of the children. There was this little thing called children's rights, which became a big deal in the early 1900's due to factory conditions. I suggest you reasearch this. On February 11 2012 14:05 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote: [quote]
Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion.
Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did.
Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote: [quote]
Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion.
Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did.
Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Ok, so you want to throw away the last 2000 years of human history on this planet? Slavery is owning people as property. And the girl is a minor, thus her rights have not been granted yet; still under care by parents. That is why we have to declare matriculation for a purpose. that doesn't make her property. The fact that slaves existed in history has nothing to do with children or ownership of children. rights not granted as a full adult doesn't mean NO RIGHTS. How does slavery have anything to do at all with children? Thats like saying 1+1= banana. there has been child slaves within the last 2000 years. You are still going to deny that? I didn't deny history anywhere. Slavery is illegal where this person lives. Therefore his child cannot be his "slave", therefore he does not own his child as property. You brought up child slavery to muddy the waters of this debate for no reason except to annoy people. But ask me one more time if I'll deny it and sure I'll start denying child slavery has existed in history.
Ok, are you denying the concept that kids have been used and sold into slavery or other related professions, with the idea that a person under 18 constitutes as a kid? If so, then you should replicate what this dad did and recollect yourself.
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What an attention whore.
I mean the father.
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On February 11 2012 14:22 Elroi wrote: What an attention whore.
I mean the father.
WELL SHE STARTED IT!!
Couldn't resist Really though, she made it a public spectacle, he did the same. Maybe next time she will keep her complaints within the home.
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On February 11 2012 14:19 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 11 2012 14:13 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 14:05 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:57 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I love ironic punishment. It's the best method of punishment. This girl went a little too far, lying about "how horrible her life was" and disrespecting her parents in front of, well, every fucking person she knows on facebook, which should be over a hundred or more if she had that account for any period of time. So he got rid of her laptop in a creative and hilarious fashion. Keep in mind this is, for all intensive puposes, what would have happened in a "normal" household. The laptop would have been taken away and the child would have gotten a stern talking to. He just decided to get creative to drive the lesson home. He's also obviously had to deal with her a lot before now, as he said himself. Completely justified, in my opinion. anach, provide proof that everything she said was untrue, and that everything he said was accurate representation of the facts. this just in: People lie. politicians do it, especially if maligned, (read the india thread where a politician tries to lie about what he was watchign on his phone to look better). he has all the reason in the world to call his daughter a liar when she levels such accusations at him publicly, shaming him. My point is, we have no proof either party is telling the truth. People lie for social gains, or to prevent social loss. He has reason to lie, and she doesn't. On February 11 2012 13:54 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:52 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:46 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote: [quote]
I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... Legally, minors are "owned" by their parents. Nothing "scary" about it. On February 11 2012 13:45 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:33 Candadar wrote: [quote]
I would love to hear the actual reasoning behind how what a parent buys for a child is now the childs property in a way equal to the child purchasing it themselves. Dont you split hairs here? I mean isnt a gift a gift no matter how old the person is you give it to. I would not give my kids a present and say to them: "here is a thing you can use till i change my mind or you loose the right to use it". I would tell them "its yours now, you can do whatever you want with it." I actually dont get what you care so much about this. Just read the definition of gift. A gift is a gift no matter how old, however, there is a difference between giving something to your child, and giving something to your buddy or whatever. If you give something to your child, something you yourself paid for, you reserve the right to take it away from them. Hell, you can legally take gifts away from friends even you gave shit to if you really wanted to go through the hoops and lose your friends over it. Rambling on now, but you get my point. You're comparing a social idea between two separate entities. Parents and their children are not, and should not be treated as equals. Man you really get scary to me. I cant say how much i disagree here. ...Because I say minors are not equal to their parents and should not be treated as such in our social strata? On February 11 2012 13:47 Spieltor wrote: I suppose Im being trolled. The second someone deems it necessary to say the equivalent of "lol troll" in an intellectual argument is the second I stop caring about anything they have to say on the matter. =/ yep, Im glad it'll end here then, because you're explicitly stating people have OWNERship over children as if theyre furniture, which is patently untrue . Spieltor, provide proof everything she said was true. She has a reason to lie as well, you know. Also, at least in this country, parents do own their children legally. It's not like furniture or anything, so he doesn't have the right to abuse her and he can have his "ownership" (that word just doesn't fit the context here) revoked if he is bad at it. Legally, children are owned by parents. Legally, children have very little rights. Socially, it isn't viewed as such and never abused in a horrible manner due to the checks in place, but legally, parents own children and all their property. that is not true. they have authority over them, but do not own them. also, they cannot take something that is the property of the children. There was this little thing called children's rights, which became a big deal in the early 1900's due to factory conditions. I suggest you reasearch this. On February 11 2012 14:05 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote: [quote]
Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion.
Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did.
Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote: [quote]
Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion.
Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did.
Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Ok, so you want to throw away the last 2000 years of human history on this planet? Slavery is owning people as property. And the girl is a minor, thus her rights have not been granted yet; still under care by parents. That is why we have to declare matriculation for a purpose. that doesn't make her property. The fact that slaves existed in history has nothing to do with children or ownership of children. rights not granted as a full adult doesn't mean NO RIGHTS. How does slavery have anything to do at all with children? Thats like saying 1+1= banana. there has been child slaves within the last 2000 years. You are still going to deny that? I didn't deny history anywhere. Slavery is illegal where this person lives. Therefore his child cannot be his "slave", therefore he does not own his child as property. You brought up child slavery to muddy the waters of this debate for no reason except to annoy people. But ask me one more time if I'll deny it and sure I'll start denying child slavery has existed in history. Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:15 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote:On February 11 2012 12:56 scarper65 wrote: This girl sounds exactly like all the stupid little teenage girls at my high school that complain about absolutely everything and have no respect for anything. Obviously the father wasn't thinking clearly by shooting the laptop, but I can't even image how angry and just how disappointed I would be if my own offspring were to act that way. Hopefully this girl has learned something today. This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age. On February 11 2012 13:00 Candadar wrote: It's funny how you can tell who is underage in the responses both in this thread, and on the youtube video responses. They make it so abundantly clear with the fervor and utter disdain for this man in their responses.
The guy is a major, class act douchebag. However, the girl got what she deserved. Not to mention, as the guy explained, all she has to do is make her own bed and do some basic chores. Boo fucking hoo her life is so horrible because she has to put away the dishes and wash a table counter. She disrespects someone who cleans her house for free, she disrespects her parents, and she disrespected herself. Again, the guy is a douchebag and a total class act -- however, she deserved it.
I mean honestly. She does maybe 30 minutes of work around the house, INCLUDING making her own fucking bed and cleaning up after herself, and she demands to be paid by her father to do it. She bitches and whines for him to buy all this shit for him and to work so hard for him and her computer, and he does, and then she spits in his face. She's a spoiled little brat who needed to be put in her place. Oh boo fucking hoo, he shot the laptop he purchased with his own money and told her if she wants any of the crap she whines for constantly she should buy it herself and get a damn job and stop relying on him for everything.
Good on him. Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Hey, im that guy you talked about the property. children are like property of parents, but because of this the law protects them. for example mandatory school you must feed you children child abuse is illegal. you cannot kill them however, for purposes like this, they can be considered your property. and if your property has a laptop you put their, you can shoot it with a gun. also, it isnt stealing if the dad takes it. ofcourse you cant steal. idealism<reality of the law. the school can punish students because the law says they act as parents during the school day. therefore, the school can do something like go on her facebook and take away her laptop too, albeit less extreme. the law doesnt protect them because they are property. the law protects them because they are PEOPLE, and PEOPLE cannot be owned, under law. Just because they don't have full adult rights, and just because their parents have authority does not mean their parents own their children and their children's possessions.
It's like you're intentionally looking at this from a skewed perspective.
Yes, the children are people. Yes, they are protected because they are people. However, they are also basically their parents property legally, but there are many laws that protect them from being abused in any shape or form. Nonetheless, they are still their parents until they turn 18 and, furthermore, anything they own is their parents as well.
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Complete overreaction by the father, but kids these days are ridiculously spoiled and arrogant. (I would know, I'm one of them.)
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On February 11 2012 14:19 Bippzy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:17 Vilonis wrote:As another example for this post...Slavery is a great example of a shitty comparison to the OP, as well as demonstrating how a mis-comparison raises two new, useless, unrelated discussions. its my bad, i just stated the daughter is the fathers property which is true to an extent, and then slavery discussion happened. its my bad. atleast now we dont have to listen to people saying they think the dad is a psycho, or id have to post more. edit: its my bad for saying its my bad so much and i really just want to say its my bad for that, too. :D
he is a psycho, look at the over dramatization of the entire event that he made public. Look at his attention seeking behavior by publicizing his "punishment". Drama queen or attention whore fits here, and these are lay person understandings for sociopathic tendencies.
On February 11 2012 14:25 Candadar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 14:19 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 14:14 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 11 2012 14:13 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 14:05 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:57 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:53 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote: I love ironic punishment. It's the best method of punishment. This girl went a little too far, lying about "how horrible her life was" and disrespecting her parents in front of, well, every fucking person she knows on facebook, which should be over a hundred or more if she had that account for any period of time. So he got rid of her laptop in a creative and hilarious fashion. Keep in mind this is, for all intensive puposes, what would have happened in a "normal" household. The laptop would have been taken away and the child would have gotten a stern talking to. He just decided to get creative to drive the lesson home. He's also obviously had to deal with her a lot before now, as he said himself. Completely justified, in my opinion. anach, provide proof that everything she said was untrue, and that everything he said was accurate representation of the facts. this just in: People lie. politicians do it, especially if maligned, (read the india thread where a politician tries to lie about what he was watchign on his phone to look better). he has all the reason in the world to call his daughter a liar when she levels such accusations at him publicly, shaming him. My point is, we have no proof either party is telling the truth. People lie for social gains, or to prevent social loss. He has reason to lie, and she doesn't. On February 11 2012 13:54 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:52 Chilling5pr33 wrote:On February 11 2012 13:46 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote: [quote]
what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... Legally, minors are "owned" by their parents. Nothing "scary" about it. On February 11 2012 13:45 Chilling5pr33 wrote: [quote]
Dont you split hairs here? I mean isnt a gift a gift no matter how old the person is you give it to. I would not give my kids a present and say to them: "here is a thing you can use till i change my mind or you loose the right to use it". I would tell them "its yours now, you can do whatever you want with it." I actually dont get what you care so much about this. Just read the definition of gift.
A gift is a gift no matter how old, however, there is a difference between giving something to your child, and giving something to your buddy or whatever. If you give something to your child, something you yourself paid for, you reserve the right to take it away from them. Hell, you can legally take gifts away from friends even you gave shit to if you really wanted to go through the hoops and lose your friends over it. Rambling on now, but you get my point. You're comparing a social idea between two separate entities. Parents and their children are not, and should not be treated as equals. Man you really get scary to me. I cant say how much i disagree here. ...Because I say minors are not equal to their parents and should not be treated as such in our social strata? On February 11 2012 13:47 Spieltor wrote: I suppose Im being trolled. The second someone deems it necessary to say the equivalent of "lol troll" in an intellectual argument is the second I stop caring about anything they have to say on the matter. =/ yep, Im glad it'll end here then, because you're explicitly stating people have OWNERship over children as if theyre furniture, which is patently untrue . Spieltor, provide proof everything she said was true. She has a reason to lie as well, you know. Also, at least in this country, parents do own their children legally. It's not like furniture or anything, so he doesn't have the right to abuse her and he can have his "ownership" (that word just doesn't fit the context here) revoked if he is bad at it. Legally, children are owned by parents. Legally, children have very little rights. Socially, it isn't viewed as such and never abused in a horrible manner due to the checks in place, but legally, parents own children and all their property. that is not true. they have authority over them, but do not own them. also, they cannot take something that is the property of the children. There was this little thing called children's rights, which became a big deal in the early 1900's due to factory conditions. I suggest you reasearch this. On February 11 2012 14:05 amazingxkcd wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote: [quote]
dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote: [quote]
Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Ok, so you want to throw away the last 2000 years of human history on this planet? Slavery is owning people as property. And the girl is a minor, thus her rights have not been granted yet; still under care by parents. That is why we have to declare matriculation for a purpose. that doesn't make her property. The fact that slaves existed in history has nothing to do with children or ownership of children. rights not granted as a full adult doesn't mean NO RIGHTS. How does slavery have anything to do at all with children? Thats like saying 1+1= banana. there has been child slaves within the last 2000 years. You are still going to deny that? I didn't deny history anywhere. Slavery is illegal where this person lives. Therefore his child cannot be his "slave", therefore he does not own his child as property. You brought up child slavery to muddy the waters of this debate for no reason except to annoy people. But ask me one more time if I'll deny it and sure I'll start denying child slavery has existed in history. On February 11 2012 14:15 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:42 Spieltor wrote:On February 11 2012 13:21 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:14 Bippzy wrote:On February 11 2012 13:07 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:06 Torte de Lini wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote: [quote]
This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age.
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Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. dont cherrypick, make a generalization about everyone in the South. swing and a miss. Don't think you quite know what "cherry pick" means. On February 11 2012 13:07 GGTeMpLaR wrote:On February 11 2012 13:05 Candadar wrote:On February 11 2012 13:01 Dzemoo wrote: [quote]
This. Way to go for this dad. He's not letting his little girl be a attention-whore like 98% of other girls her age.
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Dude, how is the dad a douchebag? Cause he's trying to teach her a lesson? She's even more of an idiot because he's caught her multiple times before for something similar. Lol. Generally everyone from the South is a pretentious douchebag in my opinion. Anyways, take the time to read my post and I praise him for what he did. Don't cherry pick. Generally, people who say things like that are pretentious douchebags in my opinion. If that's your opinion of me, so be it. Fail to see how any of this is relevant to the issue at hand, nonetheless. My experience with that culture has been only negative in my life, so that's my generalized opinion. We all categorize, we all generalize, we all have overarching opinions even if we don't want to admit it. Nonetheless, as that is all entirely irrelevant to the discussion, this guy did a great job teaching his spoiled brat a lesson. I shall respond to your post in 2 part: Part A) Cherrypicking most likely means he didn't disagree with anything you said except the douchebag part. Generally, people in the south are incredibly nice people in my experience. Basically you are stereotyping, instead of objectively judging. It was a worthy cherrypick. In fact, cherry picking would be more like you saying the following: + Show Spoiler + I hate people who say "I hate obese people" and someone responding + Show Spoiler +You said "I hate people". You must be a sadistic asshole What they did is just responding. Part B) You have been trolled~ Basically you are so close to being an intelligent minded poster and responder, and you are just held back by prejudice. You would sound much more intelligent if you kept your stereotype to yourself and only stated it if there was something in the video to evidence that. edit: On February 11 2012 13:12 nttea wrote:He bought the laptop, so in the end it's still his property. Granted shooting it was a bad choice. I don't think this is true, if you give something away it's not your property anymore Don't really see why so many people seem to get a total orgasm out of this, she's being 15 and he's being a dick VERY IMPRESSIVE GO FAVORITE TEAM!!!11 Actually she is under 18 so she is essentially the dad's property and he can therefore control anything he gives her. I guess you are of the opinion that mistakes made when you are a teenage will right themselves eventually somehow where as all the "orgasmers" are pleased to see a parent attempting to create a morally correct offspring. Dad being a dick? For a good reason :D to make a point, to parent, to teach. I mostly don't like the father because of his "holier-than-thou" attitude the entire time. I agreed with everything he said and did. It's just the way he said it made me not like him. what scared me is that the person you quoted saidd the daughter is "the dads property". Right, people are property... people can never legally be property. Children have ownership rights just as much as adults. You can't steal from children. I don't know where you live that it can be true that people are property. property implies you can destroy (kill) them if you want to throw them away. SInce this isnt true in any culture, they are not property. And you don't own anything your kid owns. Hey, im that guy you talked about the property. children are like property of parents, but because of this the law protects them. for example mandatory school you must feed you children child abuse is illegal. you cannot kill them however, for purposes like this, they can be considered your property. and if your property has a laptop you put their, you can shoot it with a gun. also, it isnt stealing if the dad takes it. ofcourse you cant steal. idealism<reality of the law. the school can punish students because the law says they act as parents during the school day. therefore, the school can do something like go on her facebook and take away her laptop too, albeit less extreme. the law doesnt protect them because they are property. the law protects them because they are PEOPLE, and PEOPLE cannot be owned, under law. Just because they don't have full adult rights, and just because their parents have authority does not mean their parents own their children and their children's possessions. It's like you're intentionally looking at this from a skewed perspective. Yes, the children are people. Yes, they are protected because they are people. However, they are also basically their parents property legally, but there are many laws that protect them from being abused in any shape or form. Nonetheless, they are still their parents until they turn 18 and, furthermore, anything they own is their parents as well.
I've tried every method I can use to go through a logical step to show you that you're wrong, and the law itself backs my argument. I failed, oh well, I'll move on understanding that I couldn't persuade you with reason. You should know you're wrong when you say something "basically" is X.
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lololol this is so funny
So many stereotypes its ridic. I mean, a cowboy with a cigarrate talking funny and shooting at a laptop The only thing that would have made the video better is that he blew up the laptop with a shotgun
I don't think its an example of great parenting, but nothing abusive as some want it look like. Hopefully they will both laught at this in some years.
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On February 11 2012 12:24 Liquid`Jinro wrote: Not gonna watch video, dont feel like getting annoyed at how retarded this person obviously is.
Teenagers have whined about their parents ever since the word 'teenager' was invented, and whining on facebook is not different from whining to friends -- I'm sorry to say this, but I am disappointed to say that if you did not even bother watching the video, how can you even think of commenting on what the father said. If you don't bother watching the video, why would you bother posting your opinion on it.
While the father might have overreacted, I mean shooting the laptop is excessive, most of the points he has addressed in the video make sense (in my perspective and from my experience) and deserve to be listened to before making a judgement on the whole thing.
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The hypocrisy being displayed here by presumably female -hating teenagers who if their demographic is any indication, have a good likelihood of being pretty lazy/spoiled themselves... is quite upsetting to say the least. I think they need a good boot up their ass for so caustically applauding this asshole guy who obviously motivated more by a perverted need for self-justification than real concern for his kid.
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